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To: philman_36
I note that you've not yet made any comment on my reply #9 [...]

Okay..."Ignoratio elenchi."

23 posted on 09/25/2008 7:31:02 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
Okay..."Ignoratio elenchi."
Hmmmm...

Red Herring
This fallacy is often known by the Latin name "Ignoratio Elenchi", which translates as "ignorance of refutation". The ignorance involved is either ignorance of the conclusion to be refuted—even deliberately ignoring it—or ignorance of what constitutes a refutation, so that the attempt misses the mark.

"En archei aiteisthai"...the conclusion of an argument is implicitly or explicitly assumed in one of the premises.

You say the message is not the problem...As I said, the message was not the problem... and you only have a problem with the messenger...but the messenger is made of straw.
All I'm asking is if you would believe another messenger since your only problem seems to be with Keyes discussing the issue instead of Rush.

25 posted on 09/25/2008 8:15:01 AM PDT by philman_36
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