Posted on 09/25/2008 12:20:54 PM PDT by Impeach98
I don't see where you were solicited to give money to a campaign so your comments regarding "fraud", etc. are totally off-base. They're raising money for their PAC (designed to get a candidate elected) and again I don't see where Impeach98 specifically asked you for a single penny.
not loving this ad.....it should have been “Bama has exp. running his campaign”...
So you ARE doing TV ads? Well, congratulations, Joe. If you had said that in the first place instead, you wouldn’t’ve inspired the cynicism in the first place.
There’s nothing wrong with a little web-based fundraising, especially if it helps provide people with some ammunition on the home front. But as an organization, be open about it and let people know what you intend to do with the money they contribute. Personally, if McCain refuses to fight a given battle that might tell us a little of who he is as a leader, and maybe you can just let McCain be McCain, but I certainly respect doing what you can for a guy you believe in.
But there’s nothing to make skepticism turn into full-blown cynicism like failing to address the substance of the skepticism and attacking the skeptic. I didn’t misread your post; you called it an ad, and you never made that it was a web-only ad. I had reason for the skepticism, and you went after my reading comprehension skills. Maybe you can learn a thing or two from McCain.
>> Ummmm....I had no idea that 99% of those who have viewed it, or will view it, are Republicans. <<
Rosey,
What I said was “conservatives.” But to your point:
Really? You think there’s a large contingency of UNDECIDED voters out there who say to themselves, “Forget about the talk shows, the ads, the web sites the candidates themselves put up; I want to really learn about what the candidates themselves think. I’ll go look up what 527s and PACs have to say on YouTube.”
Sure, YouTube vidoes get a lot of viewers. And, truthfully, I should acknowledge that YouTUbe videos for people “in the tank” on one side of the political debate also get attention from people “in the tank” on the other. But the problem with the internet is that it creates an “echo chamber”: People believe they’re hearing the broader world, but they’re only hearing themselves shouting, and other people echoing the same thing.
Preaching to the choir DOES have its purpose. FreeRepublic, DailyKOS and other groups have certainly affected the political debate. But when the preacher raises money for evangelism efforts and never leaves the pulpit... well, that’s a problem.
Now, Impeach98’s vanity was essentially a press release for his own organization, using FR as “free media.” When I was skeptical towards his group, he didn’t address my concerns, but went on the attack. Finally, he explained who he is and what he’s doing, and I respect him for it. You have to preach from your own pulpit to raise funds for that mission trip, sometimes. But I believe strongly that those who have truth on their side (conservatives) should demand openness from those who would lead or teach, and should be realistic about what they’re doing and what they’re accomplishing.
I also want to be clear when I said Impeach98 was using FR as free media, I didn’t mean to imply there was anything wrong with that, providing whoever does that doesn’t violate any FR guidelines.
Cool! Thanks for the links to the Lloyd Marcus ads, and thanks again for your efforts in countering the propaganda of the UnAmerican Democrat Party.
(just ignore their guttersnipes!)
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