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NYT:Dubious Claims in Obama’s Ads Against McCain
New York Times ^ | 09/25/08 | JIM RUTENBERG and JULIE BOSMAN

Posted on 09/25/2008 7:00:28 PM PDT by markedmannerf

ROANOKE, Va. — Two weeks ago, Senator Barack Obama’s presidential campaign gleefully publicized a spate of news reports about misleading and untruthful statements in the advertisements of his rival, Senator John McCain. Asked by a voter in New Hampshire if he would respond in kind, Mr. Obama said, “I just have a different philosophy, I’m going to respond with the truth,” adding, “I’m not going to start making up lies about John McCain.”

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A much criticized, Spanish-language television advertisement wrongly links the views of Mr. McCain, who was a champion of the sweeping immigration overhaul pushed by President Bush, to those of Rush Limbaugh, a harsh critic of the approach, and, frequently, of Mr. McCain.

The advertisement implies Mr. Limbaugh is one of Mr. McCain’s “Republican friends,” and quotes Mr. Limbaugh as calling Mexicans “Stupid and Unqualified.” Mr. Limbaugh has written that his quotes were taken out of a context and that he was mocking the views of others.

In all, Mr. Obama has released at least five commercials that have been criticized as misleading or untruthful against Mr. McCain’s positions in the past two weeks. Mr. Obama drew complaints from many of the independent fact-checking groups and editorial writers who just two weeks ago were criticizing Mr. McCain for producing a large share of this year’s untruthful spots (“Pants on Fire,” the fact-checking Web site PolitiFact.com wrote of Mr. Obama’s advertisement invoking Mr. Limbaugh; “False!” FactCheck.org said of his commercial on Social Security.)

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; ads; deceit; electionads; limbaugh; mccainpalin; nyt; obama; obamadinejad; obamanation; rush

1 posted on 09/25/2008 7:00:29 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: markedmannerf

Hmmmm....the NYT reporting this belatedly couldn’t have anything to do with the shellacking Michael Goldfarb gave ‘em, and their realization that the gig is up for pushing lies and not being challenged. They’re now going to go from being 98% in the tank for Obama to being 93% in the tank.


2 posted on 09/25/2008 7:03:43 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: markedmannerf

” In all, Mr. Obama has released at least five commercials that have been criticized as misleading or untruthful against Mr. McCain’s positions in the past two weeks. “

Good thing I was sitting down, while reading this from the NYT.
It’s actually pretty damning against Obama.
Unfortunately , the NYT couldn’t be completely truthful and describe Barry as a liar.
But, considering it’s from the NYT-this is ground breaking.


3 posted on 09/25/2008 7:05:57 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Do you have a link to the Goldfarb shellacking?


4 posted on 09/25/2008 7:06:49 PM PDT by JennysCool (A man who served his country well vs. a walking Che poster. Is it really that tough a choice?)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I’m sorry, but who is Michael Goldfarb?


5 posted on 09/25/2008 7:08:04 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (Ronald Reagan- "Trust But Verify" MSM- "Report, Lie, Then Crucify")
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

I don’t see this as ‘ground-breaking’ - rather more likely it is a cynical ploy at CYA that they mistakenly think will insulate them from criticism when they go back into their normal pro-Obama campaign mode for the next six weeks...


6 posted on 09/25/2008 7:10:10 PM PDT by Zeppo (Every mighty mild... seventies child... Beats me (Metric - Combat Baby))
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To: markedmannerf
The Slimes is beyond the event horizon, but thinks they'll put the brakes on a little so as to reassert their (gag) "credibility".

No luck, history will show the Slimes as the paper that showed Pravda how.

7 posted on 09/25/2008 7:11:35 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The beauty of conservatism, Sarah Palin.)
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To: markedmannerf

is the Times getting ready to throw Obama under the bus???

“In all, Mr. Obama has released at least five commercials that have been criticized as misleading or untruthful against Mr. McCain’s positions in the past two weeks.”


8 posted on 09/25/2008 7:12:10 PM PDT by antioscar
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Is it on page 9 hidden inbetween Go Obama Ads?


9 posted on 09/25/2008 7:12:25 PM PDT by GoCards
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To: JennysCool; princeofdarkness
You can see the shellacking in all it's shellacked brilliance here.
10 posted on 09/25/2008 7:12:52 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: markedmannerf
Do my eyes deceive me? Has the New York Times published truth for its own sake???
11 posted on 09/25/2008 7:13:12 PM PDT by Savage Beast (If anyone can deal with a hostile climate and a pack of wolves it's the Governor of Alaska!)
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To: Savage Beast
Do my eyes deceive me? Has the New York Times published truth for its own sake???

No, I suspect that they've published truth for their own sake. Now that they've published this piece, they can point it out as an example of how fair and even-handed they are.

12 posted on 09/25/2008 7:24:38 PM PDT by Bob
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To: markedmannerf

Tomorrow’s Headlines:

Sun Rises in West

Paulson says he was “Just Kidding”


13 posted on 09/25/2008 7:26:36 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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To: markedmannerf
0bama under the Slimes bus, and underneath that 0bama's bus with all those fellow travellers he threw under it?


14 posted on 09/25/2008 7:29:15 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: markedmannerf
Tomorrow's headlines today:

New York Times Abandons Obama

Women and Minorities Hardest Hit!


15 posted on 09/25/2008 7:32:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: markedmannerf
Do you think Obama is trying to get McCain to shout ‘stop lying about my record’ a la Bob Dole? I suspect they will do anything to try to get McCain to lose his temper. That's all they have now.
16 posted on 09/25/2008 7:42:07 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: SeafoodGumbo
It's 1000 times easier for the sleaze of record to admit that lately the trendy yet ghetto Pharoah "is almost as dishonest as Mac is - sometimes" than admit they screwed the pooch by digging up that reminder that McCain, who is supposed to be an economic retard, warned the country 2 years ago this crisis was coming.

They will do anything to hide that, and they are being very, very successful at it.

17 posted on 09/25/2008 7:44:08 PM PDT by 4woodenboats
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To: 4woodenboats

Agreed. For them to actually admit that McCain was sounding the alarm years ago would happen when pigs fly through frozen hell.


18 posted on 09/25/2008 7:49:40 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: markedmannerf

Funny that...How outright smears and lies, become “misleading or untruthful statements” when “reported” by the NYTs....


19 posted on 09/25/2008 7:56:16 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: markedmannerf

So...when is McCain going to start sending out goons to threaten tv and radio stations with legal action if they don’t remove those ads?

Oh that’s right.

McCain has some class - and his skin is much thicker.


20 posted on 09/25/2008 8:00:05 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: SeafoodGumbo; Petronski
Would you mind giving me a hand retrieveing the legislation that Mac supported/sponsored in 2006? I spend more time dealing with (and somewhat regularly attending/protesting) Washington state's socialist empire, am not nearly as adept in fed bills. My gut feeling, especially with this latest raid on WAMU - public can't short it, but Barney Frank & co. can stick it in their pocket and walk away with it? - is that this is a coup on capitalisim.

I found one common tater that posted a "timeline for dummies" that, if you follow the hyperlinks, leads to some very comprehensive studies, of which I've barely scratched at.

My take is that the author/compiler leans to the left, but is more interested in gaining points by being accurate in deciphering WTH happened; http://seekingalpha.com/article/97427-the-dummy-s-guide-to-the-u-s-financial-crisis?source=more_author_recent_similar_articles

21 posted on 09/25/2008 9:46:55 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (W T H !!)
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To: markedmannerf

“(“Pants on Fire,” the fact-checking Web site PolitiFact.com wrote of Mr. Obama’s advertisement invoking Mr. Limbaugh; “False!” FactCheck.org said of his commercial on Social Security.)

Well, imagine that. I’ve been following PolitiFact for a year now and, while I initially thought it was a cool concept, it’s decidedly, consistently Liberal - their choices of who they cover/target the most is VERY unbalanced. Always.


22 posted on 09/25/2008 10:01:38 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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Comment #23 Removed by Moderator

No, the post (#2) referred to “Michael Goldfarb”.


24 posted on 09/25/2008 11:09:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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