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The Palin Problem
Townhall.com ^ | 9/26/08 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 09/26/2008 3:24:39 AM PDT by acsuc99

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To: Kevmo
Does FR zap trolls anymore?

I have seen many Hussein supporters on these threads pretending like “sad” conservatives.

But, they are allowed to stay?

Weird because alot of good conservatives have been banned from FR for much less.

151 posted on 09/26/2008 3:10:06 PM PDT by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die!)
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To: roses of sharon

I’ve seen a few trolls zapped. Just search for the keyword zot, or zotbait or trolls or viking kitties and you’ll see some recent ones. What you write is interesting, though. Almost deserving of its own thread if you can come up with some good examples.


152 posted on 09/26/2008 3:23:25 PM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: jporcus

“Given what Sarah Palin has had to put up with, the fact that she’s taken it all with grace and is still standing says a lot. I really don’t know who else could possibly take this abuse and not break down or lash back. I admire her strength, and stand by her all the way.”

Well said!


153 posted on 09/26/2008 3:36:01 PM PDT by Canedawg (Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain. -Winston Churchill)
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To: acsuc99; All
"just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes"

Kathleen Parker, you are writing as an IDIOT (though I've liked some of your stuff before). Governor Palin is not running against your ideal VP candidate, she is running (WITH John McCain as the #1 on the ticket) against the exceptionally vacuous and inept Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

It is ludicrous to criticize Governor Palin like this without a point-by-point comparison with Biden and also Obama. Especially on POLICY, not just on verbal presentation or campaign-speak in a couple of interviews.....

Our choice, Kathleen Parker, is not between Governor Palin and your ideal candidate, it's between McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden. By so viciously seeking to undermine Governor Palin, you only help the socialist left toward victory. Tell me about how Biden OR Obama is so superior to Palin (NOT) and then this column could make sense. Otherwise, it is just narcissistic dreck from a lightweight columnist who seemingly wants Obama/Biden to win.

154 posted on 09/26/2008 4:01:09 PM PDT by Enchante (America: can you seriously believe that Obama & Biden know how to "run our economy"?)
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To: reaganaut1

Oh, Please...... You don’t have a choice of Mitt Romney now. The alternative to McCain/Palin is Obama/Biden. Take your pick. One of those two tickets will be elected in 5+ weeks.
Are you advocating for Obama/Biden or not?

People sniping at Governor Palin ought to first think hard about whether or not they are trying to get Obama/Biden elected, because that’s what it comes down to.

I don’t know how “Presidential” Governor Palin looked in those two interviews b/c I would not bother to lend my eyeballs to the charlatans at ABC or CBS. I do know that I find it just about unthinkable, as in projectile-vomit unthinkable, to have Obama and Biden in the WH. Palin would have to be really really bad to be as bad as Obama andd Biden. I have not seen any indication yet that she belongs DOWN on that level, even if she may not meet some people’s ideal fantasy of what is “Presidential”.... Bill Clinton, AlGore, John Kerry, and John Edwards, as well as Obama and Biden, certainly fall far below what I consider “Presidential” so I will gladly take Governor Palin over any of them.


155 posted on 09/26/2008 4:08:58 PM PDT by Enchante (America: can you seriously believe that Obama & Biden know how to "run our economy"?)
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To: acsuc99

Unfortunately, this election is not about Sarah Palin or the treatment of Palin. If you think it is, you’re fighting the wrong battle. Sarah Palin needs to be doing more of what she did at the convention right now, repeatedly, everywhere possible, not hiding from cameras, doing photo ops at home or abroad: in other words, she should be obsessive about getting McCain votes. Right now, aside from doing that, she isn’t important and won’t exactly be dominating the headlines on November 5th, regardless of how the election turns out. Events are going to overtake the president elect, not to mention the vice president elect.


156 posted on 09/26/2008 4:43:32 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: acsuc99
I thought she was somewhat conservative and balanced.

I think Sarah has been great, and the few foibles there have been have been fully exploited by the MSM.

The MSM hides Barry's foibles and denigrates you if you suggest there were any.

157 posted on 09/26/2008 5:18:48 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: reaganaut1
I supported, financially, Romney, but he was all over the political spectrum, with mostly only liberal policies to his name in the political realm (although he started a well-known business consulting firm).

However, Sarah is certainly presidential material. She shows a consistency that Romney and McCain could only dream of, to principles. She hasn't waffled or “gone over to the bad side” in the course of her political life. Even better, she understands why she believe what she does and she follows through.

Mitt Romney may be smarter, but he's a much worse person with questionable bona fides when it comes to being in political office.

Sarah wins, hands down. For you to see it otherwise says much about you. Strangely, you appear to believe Reagan was a good president, but he attended a small Christian college for his four-year degree, so you must think he wouldn't be qualified to be president or vice-president if he were around today, right?

158 posted on 09/26/2008 5:58:07 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: MozarkDawg

Speaking of that, Obambi has been using a teleprompter mounted in his watch on the trail.

I wonder if they will sneak that in to the debate tonight.


159 posted on 09/26/2008 6:19:43 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Fly the flag!)
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To: 101voodoo
We've got to remind ourselves that Governor Palin is the antithesis of Washington "insiders"....a female, a mother, a mother of 5 children, a mother of a disabled child, a mother of a child who is pregnant, a mother of a son going to Iraq....a woman who literally went from the PTA to the city council to the mayors office to the governors office.....

we love her because she is one of us....

NOT ONE CANDIDATE....NOT MCCAIN...NOT HUSSEIN....NOT BIDEN ...HAS ANY EXPERIENCE AT BEING A VICE PRESIDENT...NONE.....

Sarah Palin has answered far tougher questions than Hussein has answered in 2 years...he's never been put on the spot, never had anyone interview him who isn't bowing down , never , never , never....

my prediction.....Sarah Palin will be a wonderful and capable and likeable vice president who will do more for foreign relations and bridge building than anyone preceeding her not named Reagan....you'll see..

160 posted on 09/26/2008 8:00:29 PM PDT by cherry
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To: singfreedom
to this Kathleen Parker whoever she might be...honestly couldn't picture her, but oh well.....

Kathy baby.....just remember the last time we had a young Republican running for Vp after a short stint at governor who also fished and hunted and had many children, and who by the way, was loved and revered to this day....Teddy Roosevelt

RAGE ON SARAH PALIN.......YOU GO GET'EM YA HEAR!.....

161 posted on 09/26/2008 8:06:11 PM PDT by cherry
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To: acsuc99

YUP, NY Times has linked to it already — congratulations, Kathleen Parker...... you have proved that you would rather elect Obambi and Biden because of course THEY so obviously meet your lofty standards of who is “Presidential” and capable of impressing YOU.


162 posted on 09/26/2008 9:13:16 PM PDT by Enchante (America: can you seriously believe that Obama & Biden know how to "run our economy"?)
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To: acsuc99
Note to Kathleen: envy is a sin, and you will be judged on those spiteful words you wrote.
163 posted on 09/26/2008 9:18:30 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Lord, please make the MSM lies backfire on them. Thank you, Amen)
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To: acsuc99

I thought we were done with this Palin-should-withdraw nonsense.


164 posted on 09/26/2008 9:29:06 PM PDT by Lexinom (I've got a bracelet, too!)
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To: acsuc99
Kathleen Parker is too close to the action. She's like Peggy Noonan - they've been playing "inside ball" for so long they've forgotten what normal people think like.

When I think about these things, I'm always aware that I've been a hard-core conservative Freeper for 10+ years, and that this fact affects my view of the matter.

165 posted on 09/26/2008 9:38:35 PM PDT by an amused spectator (That would be... harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan.)
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To: webrover
There is nothing to be gained from these sit down interviews with the MSM.

There certainly is - for the Left.

You see, a person has to prepare for their trip into the Media Snake Pit.

Preparation takes time away from campaigning and fund-raising.

This is why you hear the Left screaming for her to be on their shows.

Ignore them.

166 posted on 09/26/2008 9:45:06 PM PDT by an amused spectator (That would be... harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan.)
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To: acsuc99

>> Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

How can someone be out of their league?

Palin is unique, and the support she’s getting is also unique. It’s understandable that those who cannot understand the significance of this unique combination turn to the comfort of ridicule.


167 posted on 09/26/2008 9:51:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: acsuc99

Parker is a twit - a symbol of what imbeciles now pass for “conservative”. She is a silly silly girl who should not be taken seriously.


168 posted on 09/26/2008 11:07:33 PM PDT by Publius804 (McCain-Palin '08)
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To: Aussiebabe

All Kathleen’s columns should have barf alerts,


169 posted on 09/26/2008 11:15:51 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Publius804
If she was sincere, as a conservative she would have privately offered her expertise and help.

Parker is a communication expert and owns a PR corp.

170 posted on 09/26/2008 11:16:13 PM PDT by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die!)
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To: Will88

When I have heard her speak she did not seem particularly bright. Her education is limited to a bachelor’s degree. The POTUS needs more than that.”

Reagan had a bachelor’s degree.


171 posted on 09/26/2008 11:21:17 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Kevmo

I think we’re up to Noonan, Kathleen Parker, Andrew Sullivan and Heather MacDonald.


172 posted on 09/27/2008 7:09:05 AM PDT by an amused spectator (That would be... harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan.)
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To: reaganaut1
Mitt Romney, for example, is a lot smarter and better informed than Palin. He understands economic issues better than McCain, and would be useful right now in negotiations of the bailout package. Conservatives have become so wrapped up in identity politics (mimicking the Democrats) and “anti-elitism” that they pass over better qualified candidates who have taken some positions they disagree with it.

If McCain had selected Romney, the polls right now would be 60% Obama, 30% McCain.

And they'd be accurate...

173 posted on 09/27/2008 7:10:51 AM PDT by an amused spectator (That would be... harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan.)
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To: Steven W.
Pressed to repeatedly identify more and more things about John McCain, she said she'd get back to her.

Would that Sarah had said: "I'll get back to you on that, Katie. Plus, the wait will give you time to brush up on Hoover, FDR, the history of television, and what FDR said about "the princes of greed" after he became president in 1933".

People need to be reminded daily that the Courics, Williamses and Gibsons of the world are air-headed teleprompter vidiots.

174 posted on 09/27/2008 7:16:14 AM PDT by an amused spectator (That would be... harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan.)
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To: an amused spectator

I think we’re up to Noonan, Kathleen Parker, Andrew Sullivan and Heather MacDonald.
***Are there any examples of the opposite? Someone who surprisingly thought Sarah Palin is great? Maybe Bill Clinton, Willie Brown? No one will ever believe those two slick willies are about anything but themselves.

In one fell swoop, McCain introduced a simple litmus test and he doesn’t even have to take the heat for it — Palin does. It is the most prodigious choice of a VP candidate in history. She is handing the election to him.


175 posted on 09/27/2008 9:01:35 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Kevmo

There’s a handful - Ferraro comes to mind immediately.


176 posted on 09/27/2008 9:46:13 AM PDT by an amused spectator (That would be... harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan.)
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To: SkyDancer
Bump to the top
177 posted on 09/27/2008 12:09:55 PM PDT by timestax
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To: timestax

I sent in a strong comment to Parker at the town hall site ...but all of the comments have been taken down. What gives?


178 posted on 09/27/2008 4:57:17 PM PDT by wewereright
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

A brief review.

Presidents without a BA — 9, including Washington, Lincoln, and Truman.

Presidents with only a Batchelor’s degree — 24
Presidents with law degrees — 5: Hayes, Taft, Nixon, Ford, Clinton.

Presidents with other graduate degrees — 3: Wilson (only PhD), Clinton, George W. Bush.

Not much evidence for your theory, is there?


179 posted on 09/27/2008 8:48:48 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: wewereright

I don’t know what’s going on.


180 posted on 09/27/2008 9:47:04 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Darkwolf377
I agree with her observations, such as "I've also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful."

LOL.... I think Palin was the best VP pick for RINO McCain, all factors considered, but I also think puppeteer Karl Rove has her in way over her head and she is getting bad advice from McInsane's campaign handlers.

181 posted on 09/30/2008 8:39:02 PM PDT by flattorney (See my comprehensive FR Profile "Straight Talk" Page)
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To: flattorney; All

I think I know a lot about what makes Palin subject to over-training. I’m the same way — very intuitively oriented (for people who know Myers-Briggs). People like this are used to expressiveness “flowing.” They are not the “melancholic” kind who just regurgitate volumes of factoids and scripts.

IOW, she is a “method actor” not a “classic actor.”

IOW, let Palin get used to her subject matter and turn her loose.


182 posted on 09/30/2008 8:44:19 PM PDT by unspun (Tell the truth about Obama to all you know.)
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To: an amused spectator

Or, “I’ll get back to you on that right after you follow up with Joe Biden about FDR being on TV in 1929!”


183 posted on 09/30/2008 8:44:35 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: unspun

Concur..... and who was the idiot that told her to do the Butch Couric interviews...... DUMB!


184 posted on 09/30/2008 8:58:10 PM PDT by flattorney (See my comprehensive FR Profile "Straight Talk" Page)
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To: flattorney
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Bush-41.

These McCain people seem to be hopelessly blinkered inside-the-beltway gentlemen (or as Monty Python would say, twits).

185 posted on 09/30/2008 9:06:54 PM PDT by unspun (Tell the truth about Obama to all you know.)
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