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The Palin Problem
Townhall.com ^ | 9/26/08 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 09/26/2008 3:24:39 AM PDT by acsuc99

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To: acsuc99

Nothing new here - she’s been running down Palin since the announcement. It’s tough being irrelevant, isn’t it, Kathleen?


51 posted on 09/26/2008 4:09:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Even for a thin-skinned solipsistic narcissist, Obama seems a frightful po-faced pill." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: acsuc99

This has got to be satire. I cannot believe that she meant what she said, any of it.


52 posted on 09/26/2008 4:10:46 AM PDT by Actually_in_Tokyo (ahead of the game)
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To: Brices Crossroads

he’s really really great with words. I liked all of his speeches. I can understand why many conservatives liked him.

But then I looked at his record and it really bothered me.


53 posted on 09/26/2008 4:19:00 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: tarheelswamprat
Obama and McCain who are at the tops of their respective tickets, and who are the ones responsible for laying out the principles and specifics of their plans ...

And not only that, McCain and Obama (and Biden) are all sitting Senators who have claimed authority over and expertise about the national economy, including the banking system that is currently in turmoil. If there's anything we can be sure about, it's that the Governor of Alaska doesn't have any responsibility for the mess that the FEDERAL government has made of this.

54 posted on 09/26/2008 4:19:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Even for a thin-skinned solipsistic narcissist, Obama seems a frightful po-faced pill." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: acsuc99
I would never have believed Kathleen Parker would write such drivel. I still don't. I also would never believe Townhall.com would allow one of its editorialists to go on vacation while allowing a surrogate to write her column, and, worse, have that surrogate be Tom Oliphant. Yet there can't be any other explanation.

Someone might point out to the nit wit that wrote this piece that it's the "brilliant" politicians and "professwional money men(?)" i.e. those who are "in their league" who did this to the nation in the first place. Does (whoever is) the author of this piece really think these clowns can be trusted to fix it? Haven't they already done enough damage?

I wonder if some plain old common sense might be in order. Bush isn't the guy either, although he belongs at the wheel. That's his job. Still, he won't be around to do the heavy lifting when the fix is completed. At lease some Republicans in DC have said, "Slow down just a bit." I doubt they can fix it either, as we really are going where few men have gone before.

Perhaps the person who really wrote this article can explain which person running for the Big Chair has the knowledge and experience to make things better. It says right here that I would trust Sarah Palin's judgement at least as much and probably more than anyone else, and way more than the two Bozos on the Democratic ticket.

55 posted on 09/26/2008 4:20:50 AM PDT by stevem
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To: olezip

yes, I see character and conviction in palin. You need to have that to be commander in chief. Some very smart people have no character and they back down easily during a crisis or when the poll numbers change


56 posted on 09/26/2008 4:22:27 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: acsuc99
Well Kathleen, the choice is between McCain and Obama.

And even if it were between Palin and Obama, Palin is clearly more qualified, especially on the economic front over Obama. You can make fun of Palin running a small state population wise but Obama’s experience is running his household budget and zippo more.

57 posted on 09/26/2008 4:22:44 AM PDT by DB
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To: acsuc99; All

Bow out?

Parker, you just jumped the shark.

Whatever the validity of your observations of Palin’s performance to date, and there is some validity, for any supposedly astute political observer to suggest that ANY vice presidential nominee drop out at this point in the race is just plain ignorant.

Did it ever occur to you, Kathleen, that, instead of reacting only emotionally to what you view as Palin’s lack of substantive skills (which, as you note, is typical of politicians in general, it’s just that you[re more okay with it when it’s a man-thing), some sort of analysis about the impact on the election, and, therefore, on the country was what was appropriate and warranted-—before you published your OMG-feelings-rant?

How do your think your embarrassing half-baked suggestion that Palin withdraw from the race because she filibusters only as well as typical Washington pols would affect McCain’s chance of winning the White House?

How do you think aiding and abetting the election of Obambi, which is the first immediate effect if Palin were to drop out of the race, would help the country?

Would you be happier with Joe Biden as Vice President? Oh, wait: that’s not as emotionally painful for you to watch because he’s a man.

How do you think following your suggestion would impact, not only the outcome of the election, but our country right now-—while McCain is in the midst of trying to get his hands around the throat of this financial crisis, you come along whining that he ought to go back to the drawing table and spend valuable time and money finding a new VP?

Obviously, Kathleen, you didn’t think.

May I suggest that next time you feel like hitting the mute button, you hit “delete” on your computer instead.


58 posted on 09/26/2008 4:23:12 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Fly the flag!)
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To: acsuc99; dirtboy
Palin should quit? Is Parker insane??

And those are her examples of how inept and hopeless Palin is? What did she expect Palin to say?

Seriously — who is this woman, and what has she accomplished?

59 posted on 09/26/2008 4:24:53 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: acsuc99
This hag thinks she is good enough to even write about Palin... when she is nothing more than an obammy scrotum licker.

LLS

60 posted on 09/26/2008 4:30:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: stevem

Bush didn’t have a clue on foreign policy facts but he stayed the course in Iraq and we are winning. Unfortunately he had an MBA...maybe that’s why the economy isn’t so good? His conservative instincts were clouded by the keynesian economics that he studied.


61 posted on 09/26/2008 4:30:33 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: fightinJAG; Aussiebabe; SkyDancer
If Parker were even to look at the accomplishments of Palin vs. Obama there is no contest. To say that Palin isn't qualified is to completely ignore the non record of accomplishment by Obama.

How does Parker not get how Palin has galvanized the ticket for McCain?!

Parker's not getting it! Palin's handled corruptness in Alaska and turned that state around. 80% approval rating should show Parker how effective Palin has been.

Maybe she's just jealous. What other explanation could there be?!

Just read now CBS is working to diminish Palin. Palin must be doing something right for CBS to make such a move.

62 posted on 09/26/2008 4:35:48 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: ari-freedom

Palin is the BEST SPEAKER IN POLITICS TODAY... anything else said is a LIE!

LLS


63 posted on 09/26/2008 4:35:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: ought-six
She has changed it.
64 posted on 09/26/2008 4:37:07 AM PDT by good old days (We love you, Sarah!)
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To: Dawn531

Palin does not ramble... but some of you certainly buy the dnc’s propaganda.

LLS


65 posted on 09/26/2008 4:37:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: acsuc99

Another opinion piece from the Peggy Noonan school of journalism. Palin’s problem in interviews is that she is bound by the McCain platform. It does make her answers seem contrived boilerplate at times. But not any more than Obama’s answers (and he’s at the top of the ticket). Dismissing common sense, sound principles and their affect on Palin’s judgment is just offensively stupid.

I’m seeing the Dems using this strategy in their campaign - paint Palin as out of her league then attack McCain for his health. Seems there are some conservatives sold on the idea too.


66 posted on 09/26/2008 4:38:13 AM PDT by loungeSerf (Freedom Sucks! Obama 08)
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To: LibLieSlayer
There's an interview for 11 minutes of Palin from NBC on her assessment of the energy policy. Palin has more understanding of it than anyone I have heard from the political world.

What happened to Parker?

67 posted on 09/26/2008 4:39:51 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: acsuc99
If anyone KNEW who Kathleen Parker even was, we might just care what she's RAMBLING about!!

Couric and Gibson are VIPERS....VIPERS.....and for some reason, McCain sent her into their pit......ENOUGH!

68 posted on 09/26/2008 4:41:37 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: acsuc99
I will no doubt be flamed for my following comments, but I am welcome to them.

Palin may be fine in terms of her conservative credentials, but I am certainly not convinced she is ready to be POTUS.

When I have heard her speak she did not seem particularly bright. Her education is limited to a bachelor's degree. The POTUS needs more than that.

She appears to be afraid of the press (sure its hostile, but that isn't going to change if she were President). the interview with Hannity was a joke.

She didn't know what the Bush doctrine was. She led a town of 5000 people and then a state of 600,000. She has not traveled outside of the country in any manner worthy of mention (yes this is extremely important when dealing with allies and enemies) and her ability to be Commander in Chief seems to boil down to an affinity for hunting.

I don't get the excitement about her and would have much preferred Mitt who is up to the job (and quite possibly turned it down to run in 2012).

Of course she is still better than Obama or Biden, but that is beside the point.

69 posted on 09/26/2008 4:44:15 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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To: acsuc99

It is amazing how anyone can take their cheap shots at Governor Palin as the VP nominee and say nothing of Obama, who is the most unqualified candidate to be nominated for president in anyone’s memory. And when forced to discuss issues sans teleprompter, he’s proven to be incoherent, inarticulate, and actually embarrassing to listen to.

The truth is, there are few politicians, or people in any field who can discuss the complexities of the current financial crisis with any real depth of knowledge. I’ve heard several experienced in the field admit that they don’t understand all the implications. It is to an extent uncharted territory. To pretend that a lightweight like Katie Couric has the knowledge to address the issue is laughable. None of the four on the two major party tickets can discuss this situation with real depth of knowledge and this Parker columnist just wanted to take a few cheap shots, and she exposed herself as just one more zero integrity member of the MSM.


70 posted on 09/26/2008 4:44:46 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Northern Yankee

Parker’s “analysis” is inexplicable. And inexplicably stupid.

Even if Parker were completely right in her observations (and she is not), her call for Palin to withdraw from the race showed a stunning lack of intellectual self-discipline.


71 posted on 09/26/2008 4:45:29 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Fly the flag!)
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To: acsuc99

Once again, the problem with this narrative is that if Palin is unqualified, NObama is uber-unqualified. He is the ultimate empty suit, and he’s at the TOP of the Dem ticket.

For any rational person, an attack on Palin of this nature only amplifies the necessity of electing McCain - since the alternative is NObama.

Amazing that the media keeps falling for this...but I like it! =:-D


72 posted on 09/26/2008 4:52:59 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Northern Yankee
"What happened to Parker?"

Perhaps one too many at the Carolina Cup!

73 posted on 09/26/2008 4:54:13 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: Will88
To pretend that a lightweight like Katie Couric has the knowledge to address the issue is laughable.

Yes, it is. Pretending that newsreaders have any special knowledge of national or international affairs is one of the more bizarre fictions of our time ... right up there with imagining that actors know something the average voter doesn't know.

74 posted on 09/26/2008 4:55:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Even for a thin-skinned solipsistic narcissist, Obama seems a frightful po-faced pill." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

“When I have heard her speak she did not seem particularly bright. Her education is limited to a bachelor’s degree. The POTUS needs more than that.”

What elitist BS. So, you’d automatically disqualify a candidate with on a BS from Eureka College.

And Truman, with no degree, well, he would surely have offended your sensibilities to no end, Lol.


75 posted on 09/26/2008 4:59:10 AM PDT by Will88
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To: JusPasenThru

WTF indeed.

First of all, I’ve never heard of this Kathleen Parker broad....who the hell is she anyway?

Second, did anyone hear the liberals complain in 2004 that Howard Dean was from a small New England state with a small population? Insert here the sound of crickets.

Alaska is half the size of the lower 48 states and is one of the most important energy producing regions of North America.

What disqualifies Gov. Palin in the small minds of these liberals, especially these liberal women, is this....

(1) she’s a conservative

(2) she’s a Christian

(3) she gave birth to five children, and didn’t abort any of them

(4) she hunts

(5) she’s pro 2nd amendment

(6) she has common sense

(7) she’s not part of the Northeastern liberal establishment

(8) she didn’t go to an ivy league college

(9) she’s pro Iraq war and has a son fighting in that conflict

(10) she has an “R” after her name and

(11) she, like most conservative women, is attractive, unlike most democrat women, who fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

You go, Sarah. And thank YOU, Senator McCain, for choosing Gov. Palin as your running mate.


76 posted on 09/26/2008 4:59:41 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Sarah Palin is an American Margaret Thatcher. Sarah Palin is a female Ronald Reagan)
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To: acsuc99
People who make their living with words, like this author and plenty of others in the MSM, too, have problems with Palin because she's not a master with words. No she isn't. She's folksy. But look at her record. She gets stuff done. She's had a huge approval rating in her home state. She takes on people when they are corrupt and does something about it. I don't care if she's a master with words because that's style over substance. She's substance over style and those obsessed with words just don't and won't get that.
77 posted on 09/26/2008 4:59:43 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

“Her education is limited to a bachelor’s degree. The POTUS needs more than that.”

Why is that? Advanced degrees focus on one narrow discipline. The President must be a true executive, delegating expertise, taking the best advice, and making the hard decisions.

Those talents aren’t something you learn in college. Sarah will do fine, just as many Presidents and Vice Presidents who lacked “advanced degrees” have done in the past.

A final thought, regardless of NObama’s educational achievements, his character is unsuitable for President. Sarah is quite the opposite.


78 posted on 09/26/2008 5:02:00 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Yep, you are going to get flamed. Only a bachelor degree? What a really stupid statement. One of the biggest problems that the USA has, is they keep electing lawyers from Ivy League schools. McCain only has a bachelor degree. Some people with bachelor degrees have 100% more common sense than at lot of PhD’s or people with MBA’s. (Sorry if I have offended lawyers, PhD’s and people with MBA’s on the board).
79 posted on 09/26/2008 5:03:20 AM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Northern Yankee
She and noonan are part of the inside the beltway elite... country-club limousine Republicans... they feel they are better than the “people”... they look down upon Palin because she did not graduate from an Ivy League school... didn't run in the elite east coast billionaire circles... Palin does not vacation in the Hamptons... they are intimidated by her rugged outdoorsman mystique... and they both wear obama knee pads... they swoon over obammy's blackness... and I'm talking about the blackness of his soul... not his skin color!

LLS

80 posted on 09/26/2008 5:05:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: acsuc99

I wish the same standards were applied to Obama and his fellow gaffe machine, Joe Biden. What exactly makes Palin out of her league?


81 posted on 09/26/2008 5:05:52 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: Aussiebabe

Actually McCain has a law degree which is generally considered an advanced degree.


82 posted on 09/26/2008 5:10:37 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
She is not a person that I would want as VP or as President.

Palin is the best that America has to offer?

83 posted on 09/26/2008 5:12:47 AM PDT by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: acsuc99
In addition to her syndicated column, Parker is director of the School of Written Expression at the Buckley School of Public Speaking and Persuasion in Camden, South Carolina. She previously ran her own public relations company and is a past instructor of editorial writing and advanced feature writing at the University of South Carolina College of Journalism and Mass Communications. She is a member of USA Today's Board of Contributors, writing regularly for the paper's op-ed page.

Parker's column focuses on social issues related to family, children and gender. Having grown up in Florida with four stepmothers and a variety of siblings -- half-, step- and whole -- Parker says, "I know of what I speak." She lives in Camden, South Carolina with her husband, son and a variety of pets.

Sounds like another case of vagina envy ala Peggy Noonan. She just can't stand the fact that this "rube" is actually the VP candidate.

84 posted on 09/26/2008 5:13:11 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: acsuc99

Wow. Or rather, meow.


85 posted on 09/26/2008 5:14:32 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: acsuc99

Remember last year Parker declared Hillary Clinton “well qualified” to be president. I’ve read whatever she’s written with a grain of salt since then.


86 posted on 09/26/2008 5:14:40 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: PreciousLiberty
Advanced degrees focus on one narrow discipline.

I will comfortably assume by making this statement that you do not have an advnaced degree. Of course you are not running for President so that does not matter

An advanced degree in the form of a Masters degree is a much deeper look at a broad field - for instance business, finance, engineering, agriculture. The real focus comes with a PhD - which indeed is far more than a President needs.

However, the level of complexity of the problems currently faced are not to be made simpy via "gut feeling". It helps to understand that problems have many layers.

Education teaches you how to analyze problems. AAn advanced degree will help you focus on particular field, but it also helps with thinking in general.

Simply put, Palin does not strike me as a person who spends as much time thinking as I would want the POTUS to spend.

The degree thing is a proxy for that - the current POTUS doesn't appear to think enough either.

87 posted on 09/26/2008 5:15:17 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Actually McCain has a law degree which is generally considered an advanced degree.

I don't believe that is correct. All the education bios I've seen for McCain only mention that his is a Naval Acad grad. They do not mention any masters or doctorate degrees. I'd be happy to be proven wrong so if you have a link that shows the law school he attended and year please post.

88 posted on 09/26/2008 5:16:58 AM PDT by The Hound Passer
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To: Afronaut

Are Obama and Biden the best America has to offer?


89 posted on 09/26/2008 5:17:43 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: acsuc99

Hey Kathy, can I get you a saucer of Milk??

Pray for W, McCuda and Our Troops


90 posted on 09/26/2008 5:19:44 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: Question_Assumptions
They said all of this about Reagan... just an actor... not a deep thinker... can't communicate (yes... they actually said that), dumb, uneducated, "B" grade actor... Palin is more like Reagan than anyone since Reagan... and Reagan's son said that! That is why the elite in both parties hate her... they know she is real and she is better than they are!

LLS

91 posted on 09/26/2008 5:20:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: Aussiebabe
Some people with bachelor degrees have 100% more common sense than at lot of PhD’s or people with MBA’s.

I agree with you on this. I know a lot of really stupid PhDs. But, common sense and a little bit more what is needed when faced with an extremely complex financial problem. Or multi-layered and ancient foreign policy issues.

The POTUS should have both. Like Mitt.

92 posted on 09/26/2008 5:20:40 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Education teaches you how to analyze problems. AAn advanced degree will help you focus on particular field, but it also helps with thinking in general.

Roughly half of Congress is made up of lawyers, each of which have an advanced degree. They are indeed wizards at solving problems.

93 posted on 09/26/2008 5:21:39 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
You are wrong. John McCain only has the basic bachelor's degree from the Naval Academy where he came nearly last in his class. He does not have a law degree.

I don't hold that against him as there is no correlation on leadership nor how people do in their careers based on rank in their class, 20 years after graduating.

94 posted on 09/26/2008 5:24:26 AM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
I will no doubt be flamed for my following comments, but I am welcome to them.

As you wish... another Mittbot crawling out from his hole to pipe up at negative news. Probably to crawl back in your hole the next time a news cycle is favorable to Palin.

Your faith in advanced degrees is misplaced. Bush 43, Bush 41, and Clinton had advanced degrees. Ronald Reagan had just a bachelors degree from a small midwest college.

95 posted on 09/26/2008 5:25:49 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Brices Crossroads

Romney would gave been an excellent selection. He was my number one pick, and Palin was my number two pick. But despite my liking of Mitt, I was thrilled when McCain picked Palin. She’s only been governor for two years, so it’s impossible to pick up the knowledge of international and national affairs in that short period of time. Especially since she hasn’t been campaigning for president, like Romney has, since she was elected. What makes her a great candidate is her instincts which are conservative. There’s no way she’d be a high tax-high spender on the economy. She’d keep the military strong. She’d keep her paws off the business of America.


96 posted on 09/26/2008 5:26:09 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: The Hound Passer

Sorry, you are right. He doesn’t have a law degree.

Still, he is an expert on Foreign Policy.

I am not sure what Palin is an expert on. What she has really focused on to know the different layers of complexity.

As mentioned, I see an advanced degree as a proxy, not a must for the type of deep experience I want the POTUS to have. Palin doesn’t do it for me like Mitt did.


97 posted on 09/26/2008 5:26:26 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Mitt’s problem is he had the paper credentials, but not the principles to lead.


98 posted on 09/26/2008 5:30:23 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Simply put, Palin does not strike me as a person who spends as much time thinking as I would want the POTUS to spend.

The Presidency is in the Executive Branch for a reason. Being President is an executive job. You are being paid to manage and make decisions. I have no idea what you mean by "thinking," in terms of the job, but the President and VP are surrounded by "thinkers" who provide them with expert advice and information, e.g., the intelligence community, cabinet officials, etc. The President must have the ability to make decisions based on the best possibile information available. And he/she must have leadership qualities.

Palin's record of executive experience and achievement, inside and outside of government, make her more qualified than Obama and Biden who have never supervised or managed anything larger than a senate staff. And even ahead of McCain's experience in the USN. The fact that Palin is a Washington outsider is a plus for me.

99 posted on 09/26/2008 5:30:44 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; Aussiebabe
But, common sense and a little bit more what is needed when faced with an extremely complex financial problem. Or multi-layered and ancient foreign policy issues.

Your error is to believe that the president is supposed to be a philosopher-king who will be able to unravel the most tangled problems, to 'run' the country, and to show everyone the meaning of life. This office was never meant to do this. These current--wrong--expectations have come about to the degree that people have started to immanentize the eschaton via government and to consider the president as the ultimate expression of this.

The purpose of the U. S. federal government was not to solve the problems of life but to ensure domestic tranquility and to protect the nation from domestic and foreign enemies. Except for a few specifically enumerated things, everything else was to be left up to the wishes of the states, groups of individuals, and individuals. It's time to start paring the federal government back to a pre-FDR form.
100 posted on 09/26/2008 5:31:09 AM PDT by aruanan
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