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Lawmakers Reach Accord on Huge Financial Rescue (ACORN's out)
Washington Post ^ | September 28, 2008 | Lori Montgomery and Paul Kane

Posted on 09/28/2008 2:15:27 AM PDT by hocndoc

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To: hocndoc

“I listened to President Bush’s speech. I think I understand this whole economic crisis. See, rich people on Wall Street made a big mess. And they’re too rich to clean it up. So the rest of America, you know, their maids and butlers, they have to clean it up for them. You see how easy it is?” —Jay Leno

“As far as this $700 billion bailout is concerned, they keep saying ‘we have to act now, we have to act now.’ It’s like a bad TV offer. Just ten easy payments of $70 billion each, operators are standing by, but you have to act now!” –Jay Leno

“I’ll tell you, to give you an idea how bad the economy is, Wall Street investors are now clinging to their guns and religion.” —Jay Leno


41 posted on 09/28/2008 4:27:20 AM PDT by mirkwood (Palin has my vote!)
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To: hocndoc

What about the union provision - part of the prcoeeds protecting union worker’s 401K’s? Is that out?


42 posted on 09/28/2008 4:29:00 AM PDT by randita
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To: hocndoc
Before any money from government goes to this debacle, the people and their practices that caused it must be removed from further participation. That means no more "community reinvestment" programs and no more relaxing of credit standards, for example.

No bail out should be considered until the major causes, including people, of the problem is eliminated.

43 posted on 09/28/2008 4:29:55 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: XR7

"We support free American money from taxpayers for Paulson.
It all comes back to us Democrats, anyway. Now move along, dhimmis."

Problem:
"Sen. Dodd has been rewarded in the 2008 election cycle with $7.65 million in campaign contributions
he took in $11.7 million in all — from the securities, insurance, real-estate and commercial-banking industries, according to his latest Federal Election Commission filing posted at opensecrets.org.

Sen. Dodd's list of donors reads like a who's who of who's in the stew:
Citigroup, $310,294; SAC Capital Partners, $282,000; United Technologies, $263,400;
AIG, $224,678; Bear Stearns, $205,600; St. Paul Travelers, $205,400; Royal Bank of Scotland, $203,750;
Goldman Sachs, $175,600; Morgan Stanley, $155,000; Credit Suisse, $154,550;
Merrill Lynch, $134,950; The Hartford, $94,350; Bank of America, $91,300
JPMorgan Chase, $129,150; USB, $101,900; Hartford Finance Services, $101,500
Lehman Brothers, $128,400; KPMG, $113,100; General Electric, $108,250; Deloitte Touche, $108,000

With $165,400, Sen. Dodd also tops the list of members of Congress who took campaign cash from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac since 1989.

Sen. Barack Obama, the self-styled agent of change, is a distant second at $126,000 and Sen. John Kerry is third at $111,000.
In the top 20 are Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Media silent and will leak nothing .............. check
DOJ will continue to do NOTHING ........... check
GAO will continue to do NOTHING .......... check
There is NO accountability in America........check

44 posted on 09/28/2008 4:37:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: rawhide
Why were there not more Republicans present?

Because the Dems are the majority party. People don't realize that's what happens. At the beginning of this "negotiation" the republicans weren't even included at the table. The party in power sets the rules.

45 posted on 09/28/2008 4:43:56 AM PDT by gotribe (The right pick!)
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To: XR7

Down south we have a saying....."he was grinning like a mule eating shi*"

That's dingy Harry in this pic

46 posted on 09/28/2008 4:43:59 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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Thaddeus McCotter: Republicans Oppose the Paulson Splurge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qA3cpYiz5k


47 posted on 09/28/2008 4:46:28 AM PDT by anglian
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To: InterceptPoint
My problem with this is that given the choice of selling non-preforming assets for cash versus spending money to insure these assets that the banks will simply choose to take the money and run. What would motivate them to subscribe to the Republican plan when they can cash out from the $700 billion piggy bank? It's not obvious to me that they would.

Well, theoretically, you could sell the assets to the Treasury for 25 cents on the dollar, or you could have them insured, which would effectively make them free of default risk and so they should now be priced closer to 100 cents on the dollar. The insurance might go for only a few percent, meaning you could profit big from it.

48 posted on 09/28/2008 4:56:19 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (You can put lipstick on a donkey, but it's still just a jackass.)
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To: hocndoc

Stuart Varney was just on F&F and I’ll admit I was only 1/2 way listening initially, as I was reading FR, but I thought I heard him say the ACORN provision and the provision that would allow judges to re-write mortgages was still in the bill. Maybe I mis-heard and he said they were removed. We’ll really need to have a look at the bill to make sure they were totally removed.

They just showed a clip of Sen Judd Gregg (R-NH)- he didn’t look very happy and Chuckie Schmoozer was smirking in the background.


49 posted on 09/28/2008 5:04:58 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I believe the original funding for ACORN came through some mumbo-jumbo in the law about required credit counseling and lender education, etc. Sure worked well, didn’t i? Watch out for ANY language like this, as it’s just cover for more Democrat voter registration.
The GOP Caucus hasn’t signed on yet. Stay tuned.


50 posted on 09/28/2008 5:05:22 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: ronnie raygun
You know the specter of president obama has motivated me to work for McCain. But we all know what McCain really is, a war hawk RINO.

If this goes down as a 90+ per cent original democratic plan with ACORN funding buried in it, with McCain support, I'm done. WTF would be the point of getting McCain elected? Where would McCain ever drawn the line?

If McCain caves here, as president he'd sign everything reid and pelosi sent to him.

I'm so damn sick of seeing republicans being rolled by dems and the msm.

51 posted on 09/28/2008 5:08:10 AM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: XR7

If read is smiling it means we, the taxpayers are getting a deep bohica.


52 posted on 09/28/2008 5:26:25 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: XR7

They are trying to pull a Bush 41. “read my lips, no new taxes”

Bush will sign this then the MSM and Democrats will blame him for giving his Wall Street cronies 700 billion.

If a dumb schmuck like me could figure this out, wonder why no one else has.


53 posted on 09/28/2008 5:29:56 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: hocndoc

If anyone tries to investigate ACORN from here on out, the Democrats will just shut it down. They now have full power and will use this for political gain with the election barely a month away.

It will take years for the results of a nationalized financial market to rear it’s ugly head. Canada is a prime example of that. We are truly screwed unless a miracle happens and strong Conservatives regain control of the Legislature. That is looking very unlikely at this point.


54 posted on 09/28/2008 5:44:02 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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To: Tempest

To be clear, they should put a ‘D’ or a donkey on that picture, because that’s one of Barney Frank’s friends pictured getting the money.


55 posted on 09/28/2008 5:44:20 AM PDT by FreePoster (Political correctness will not die of its own sickness. It has to be killed by the ideas of freedom.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Bush will sign this then the MSM and Democrats will blame him for giving his Wall Street cronies 700 billion.

Yep. The democrats communists will be screeching about how it could have gone to “health care for the children, renewable energy research, food for the poor” etc, etc.

If President Bush signs this it will become his “legacy.”

56 posted on 09/28/2008 5:45:17 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Thane_Banquo
"Well, theoretically, you could sell the assets to the Treasury for 25 cents on the dollar, or you could have them insured, which would effectively make them free of default risk and so they should now be priced closer to 100 cents on the dollar. The insurance might go for only a few percent, meaning you could profit big from it."

So I'm a big bank and I buy the insurance for a few percent and then declare that the loan is in default and collect 100%. Sounds like this could scammed easily.

57 posted on 09/28/2008 5:51:42 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: TLI

And don’t forget that if Obama wins, he will strip the military even worse than Clintoon did. He has said that very thing.

He will pull our troops out of most everywhere, like Europe, Korea, etc,,, and cut military funding to just fund a bare bones National Guard. Because with him as President, the entire World will love us again and we will no longer require a “bully” military World-police force.

Then that money will go for the “po”, to give them free college, houses, food, transportation and spending money. The rest of us will PAY.


58 posted on 09/28/2008 5:53:57 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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To: XR7

Bump to this video. Excellent background.

If the Democrats in Congress had any conscience, they would beg the Republicans to fix this, and then they would crawl into a hole until it blows over. Thanks to Fox News for this one.


59 posted on 09/28/2008 6:01:25 AM PDT by FreePoster (Political correctness will not die of its own sickness. It has to be killed by the ideas of freedom.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
RE: Democrats will blame him [Bush] for giving his Wall Street cronies 700 billion.

It's already happening. From the article (& post #8):

"If the secretary doesn't like it, that's just too bad, because he is going to need the help of each and every one of them to sell the president's plan to the Democratic caucus and the American people."

60 posted on 09/28/2008 6:03:09 AM PDT by Gil4 (If you do what is right eventually the polls will catch up to you)
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