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Dow sinks 777 points after US lawmakers reject bailout
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 9/29/08 | AFP

Posted on 09/29/2008 2:35:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: tumblindice

I may buy a new truck tomorrow, 0% financing.. and a bonus back.. or I may sleep in.. Yup, life goes on.. I should buy the truck tho,, a nice harvest gold or baby blue would be nice. some good deals out there.


21 posted on 09/29/2008 2:55:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... Capitol Switchboard: (202) 224-3121)
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To: BrazillionBob; Angry Write Mail
Do you really think the DNC is that well organized? If so, then they’re a bigger threat than we’ve been led to believe!

I wouldn't attribute that ability to the socialist cabal in congress. They just want power, but they are lackies to the one-worlder international socialists like George Soros. Those folks work hand in hand with our enemies to crush this nation and bring it under the yoke of socialism.

Absolutely this was orchestrated and manipulated to happen right now. The question is, in a game of economic chicken who will blink first?!? I'd guess we're on the losing end either way. These types of problems don't impact people at that economic level.

Oi BrazillionBob, e seu nome 'ta uma brincadeira o tem significa?

Does the name mean anything in particular or are you just funnin' around? : )

22 posted on 09/29/2008 3:00:18 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: umgud

slow growth , wide index base, sounds fine for now.. unless you want to play the troughs of the waves in the market to come. I’m not risk tolerant either,, not these days..

I was thinking about gold except my wife has already built up a pretty good hoard of it in her jewelry boxes so we’re covered, well, she is.. ;-)


23 posted on 09/29/2008 3:00:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... Capitol Switchboard: (202) 224-3121)
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To: pissant

Ouch. I think today’s bloodbath on Wall Street may have ensured I retire at least a year later than expected.


24 posted on 09/29/2008 3:13:58 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

sad part is the lower it goes the more the voters will blame Bush and republicans.


25 posted on 09/29/2008 3:14:51 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Syllojism

The bailout would cost 700 Billion. Today Americans lost 1.1 Trillion in value.With more to come. And don’t for a moment think Pelosi and the dems are going to get the blame in the media or at the polls. It may not be an exagerration to say this day was a catastophe for the free market, the GOP, and America. Pelosi, Reid and Obama are going to make Lyndon Johnson look like Barry Goldwater.


26 posted on 09/29/2008 3:16:20 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: DesertSapper

Naw. If they kill this and replace it with a conservative, free-market plan, your stocks will recover quite nicely and then some.


27 posted on 09/29/2008 3:17:29 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
The 666ers deliver 777
28 posted on 09/29/2008 3:24:32 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: pissant

Naw. If they kill this and replace it with a conservative, free-market plan, your stocks will recover quite nicely and then some.
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Agreed however it would be alot nicer if I was 20 years younger. (In more ways than $$$$$$)


29 posted on 09/29/2008 3:36:39 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: blau993

I am sorry for your loss, but I have never entertained an idea of a nice retirement Not with the Democrats and the press running the country..Being self employed, I will work till I drop like old folks used to.


30 posted on 09/29/2008 3:45:08 PM PDT by redstateconfidential ("Go to the mattresses")
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To: NormsRevenge

This is the proof that the market is being manipulated by anti-american forces. The stock market has been on a roller coaster for the past 2-3 years. The fact that the market responds positively to liberal finance schemes shows who’s in charge.


31 posted on 09/29/2008 3:46:50 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Muhammed and Allah = memes destined for the ashheap of history.....)
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To: Angry Write Mail

All the Congress knew, because of a briefing that occurred in March 2008, that the financial system was in trouble. Certainly that is enough time for them to plan a few things.


32 posted on 09/29/2008 3:47:33 PM PDT by ikka
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To: LomanBill

Looks like we need to choose between God and Mammon just to keep on the right side of heaven’s gate.


33 posted on 09/29/2008 3:47:47 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Muhammed and Allah = memes destined for the ashheap of history.....)
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To: xkaydet65
The bailout would cost 700 Billion? ---if only this were true....

The real numbers are geometrically larger and the 'profits' on paper will be stolen by democrats the minute they think the coast is clear enough to do so...

34 posted on 09/29/2008 3:49:46 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Muhammed and Allah = memes destined for the ashheap of history.....)
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To: xkaydet65
The bailout would cost 700 Billion. Today Americans lost 1.1 Trillion in value

You apparently have no understanding of how the stock market works.

35 posted on 09/29/2008 3:52:26 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Syllojism

Do not let Nancy-pants and her band of ecoterrorists get away with that crap. Her caucus is big enough to get that bill passed without Republicans aiding and abetting more government theft. Why do Republicans get the blame while 94 Democrats get cover for voting Nay?


36 posted on 09/29/2008 4:14:49 PM PDT by Doohickey (Wingnut: A small, dense object that spins easily (See: Obama, Barack))
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To: LomanBill

And don’t miss that tonight begins Rosh Hashana “The Feast of Trumpets” (the only feast having Messianic symbolism left unfulfilled by Jesus’ in his first coming), which begins with a ten-day period of introspection called the Yamim Noraim of “The Days of Awe” (and who would deny the awe of today’s market losses?), and is capped off by the great fast day of Yom Kippur “The Day of Atonement.”

I guess, now we have ten days to figure out whether we’re really sorry, or not, and I’m thinking we’d better come up with an honest answer.


37 posted on 09/29/2008 4:29:44 PM PDT by HKMk23 (That nation is "sovereign" whos citizens are willing to kill, and to die, to keep it so.)
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To: xkaydet65
The bailout would cost 700 Billion. Today Americans lost 1.1 Trillion in value.

Yes, the market wouldn't have lost as much today had the bailout passed. However, comparing the one day market loss against the bailout cost implicitly assumes the bailout would have worked.

As evidence that it wouldn't have worked, the Fed announced $630 billion of monetary injections to the market today before the vote. The market did nothing in response.

If $630 billion didn't start to grease the skids, what do you think the market response would have been when the $700 billion didn't get credit flowing again?

The problem with the credit markets isn't lack of money to lend. Recent strong demand for treasuries and the ease JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs had raising a total of $20 billion shows there's money available. What's missing is confidence to make the loans. More money on bank balance sheets won't buy confidence.
38 posted on 09/29/2008 4:33:08 PM PDT by javachip
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To: Syllojism; pissant

Losses need to be reflected in share prices. I would not mind seeing the DOW drop another 400 - 500 points.

We cannot pass this cost (bad mortgages) along to our kids. By passing the Bailout bill, we are kicking the can down the road, to future generations.

There’s no 700 billion in “surplus” to use, it would have to be borrowed, and kids coming up will pay this back.

That is like ‘taxation without representation.’

Share values should fall to reflect losses (rather than profitable companies), as should/will property values a bit.

Our cohort, our age group, voted in the CRA, no ‘redlining,’ etc. etc. Whether we voted for it, or not - it was our generation/age group’s decision to subsidize bad loans.

We should take a hit to our retirements, not pass it on to future generations.

(Or, we should try and target those who were responsible — if lawyers can identify the exact interest groups at work, lobbying for these wealth transfers...)

And — I AM an economist.

LET IT DROP, to REFLECT THE LOSSES. DON’T PASS IT ON - TO THE FUTURE TAXPAYERS.


39 posted on 09/29/2008 4:48:03 PM PDT by 4Liberty (discount window + moral hazard = bank corporate welfare + inflation tax)
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To: NormsRevenge
Remember “Ten thousand by 2000!”
40 posted on 09/29/2008 4:50:24 PM PDT by Aglooka
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