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OBAMA IS INDONESIAN
Texasdarlin Blog ^ | Sept. 30, 2008 | Larry Martin & Texasdarlin

Posted on 09/29/2008 11:18:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll

Is Barack Obama an Indonesian Citizen?

On Sunday, I received an email from An Expat in Southeast Asia, Larry Martin.

He wrote this:

Obama is Indonesian.

My sources claim that he was adopted and that the Indonesian government is aware of this - so are Obama’s people who cut a deal with the Indonesian government to have the records suppressed.

(Excerpt) Read more at texasdarlin.wordpress.com ...


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What really stinks is that the Democrats and the MSM are aware and don't give a damn!
1 posted on 09/29/2008 11:18:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll
I know a guy that knows a guy whose cousin said . . .

:-)

2 posted on 09/29/2008 11:20:32 PM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: The Paucity of Hope)
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To: FoxInSocks

Put it in breaking news, fergawdsake! :-)


3 posted on 09/29/2008 11:23:34 PM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: SatinDoll

Also, for reading this email, I will place $465 million dollars in your bank account, as I am the daughter of an Indonesian prince...


4 posted on 09/29/2008 11:24:33 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: expatguy

Is that you mentioned in this article?


5 posted on 09/29/2008 11:24:38 PM PDT by Kevmo (McCain's learning from Palin how to win a national election. Palin's learning from him how to lose 1)
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To: SatinDoll

It’s pretty clear Obama wasn’t born in the US, probably Kenya, but maybe Canada, or even the USSR. If he is Indonesian too, that’s just another reason he can’t serve as POTUS.


6 posted on 09/29/2008 11:24:41 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: FoxInSocks

Obama and the DNC are being sued to produce his vault copy Birth Certificate. The Senator is refusing BECAUSE he was adopted, his adopted name is Barry Soetoro, and he is an Indonesian citizen who, as an adult, swore allegience to Indonesia so he could travel in 1981, on an Indonesian passport, to Pakistan.

If you don’t believe this or take issue with this situation, go pound sand!


7 posted on 09/29/2008 11:25:22 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll

yes
not an american citizen

clintons know it...just holding it when they can use it when it really matters


8 posted on 09/29/2008 11:25:25 PM PDT by housedeep
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To: SatinDoll

This is not quite as silly as the “Obama is an Arab” BS being passed around by the tinfoil inboxer crowd, but is still a WASTE of time.


9 posted on 09/29/2008 11:27:49 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: SatinDoll; expatguy

obumpa


10 posted on 09/29/2008 11:28:15 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: SatinDoll

If true, former CIA asset and Clinton kneepad-wearer, Larry Johnson, would have obtained the info and published it. The Clintons have unlimited funds to solve this.


11 posted on 09/29/2008 11:28:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: SatinDoll

Gosh, why has nobody posted this on Free Republic before?


12 posted on 09/29/2008 11:31:37 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: SatinDoll

The thing is, none of this would affect his original birth certificate, the one issued when he was born, IF he was actually born in Hawaii. From what some of his own relatives have said, I believe he was born in Kenya.


13 posted on 09/29/2008 11:31:47 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Clemenza
Line 3 (Citizenship) Indonesia
Line 4 (Religion) Islam


14 posted on 09/29/2008 11:33:33 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: FFranco
"...another reason he can't serve as POTUS"...

But it sooo enhances him for Ruler of the World.

Seriously, I do believe he probably has dual citizenship. If Kenyan, he had to announce his decision to keep his citizenship at 21, or was it renounce? Anyway, how would we ever know what he did? Any records would have been expunged or made inaccessible.

When someone starts a run for the Presidency, why don't they be required to present a birth cert.?

vaudine

15 posted on 09/29/2008 11:34:32 PM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: SatinDoll
Obama is Indonesian.

My sources claim that he was adopted and that the Indonesian government is aware of this

I heard he was born a Caucasian Ukrainian gypsy hermaphrodite. Could just be rumor on the Internets, though.

16 posted on 09/29/2008 11:34:38 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: Hugin
Gosh, why has nobody posted this on Free Republic before?

You mean today right?

17 posted on 09/29/2008 11:37:06 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: doug from upland

Dear Dougie,

I admire you immensely but you should go to texasdarlin’ blog and read the whole posting. Expat Guy has done a great job of ferreting out information.

You should be aware that Obama has been practising at making foreign relations deals even before his trip to the ME and Europe. Such as promising he won’t go after Indonesia on the Papau situation (persecuting Christians) if they “lose” all pertinent documents involving himself.

Before, I believed he was telling the truth about being a converted Christian but now know that is all baseless. He is a Muslim. His college roommates, on campus and off campus, were all Muslim. That was by Obama’s choice. Recently he referred to dogs and pigs as unclean. Wow! Was that ever a dead give away! And he and Michelle said that they never give gifts to their daughters - a Muslim practice.

It isn’t the fact he is a practising Muslim that bothers me. It’s that he lies about it!

Hugs, from Satin Doll


18 posted on 09/29/2008 11:40:57 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: SatinDoll
*BUMP* !

For Indonesian, Kenyan, Hawaiian confusion

19 posted on 09/29/2008 11:42:07 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: doug from upland

Oh! About the Clinton’s unlimited funds to solve their and our problem with Obama: I think that they don’t want to blow their future power base in the Democrat Party.

Can’t tick off all those black Democrat voters who’ve been snookered by a smooth talkin’, illegal alien community organizer.


20 posted on 09/29/2008 11:46:11 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: SatinDoll

Wow...


21 posted on 09/30/2008 3:39:39 AM PDT by wastedyears (Now sadly living in the DPRNYC [Brooklyn])
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To: SatinDoll
...I think that they don’t want to blow their future power base in the Democrat Party...

Obama Campaign’s National Network Separate from the Democratic Party.

Looks as if the Dem party has lost control of their smooth talkin’, illegal alien community organizer.

22 posted on 09/30/2008 3:52:24 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: FoxInSocks

Did you know that the EX PAT in this story is along time Freeper?


23 posted on 09/30/2008 4:07:18 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: SatinDoll

All of this, even if true, is comprehensively irrelevant.

Obama was born in the USA and is therefore a native born citizen.

American citizenship can only be voided by a precisely defined renunciation process. If this is not done, American citizenship remains in effect for life. US law doesn’t care in the least whether some other country considers you to be a citizen. I could acquire citizenship in 27 countries under their laws, and my American citizenship would remain in effect unless and until I formally renounced it following the prescribed procedures.

For heaven’s sake, people. The American Taliban fought against and killed American soldiers. He is no doubt guilty of treason, but he is still an American citizen. Americans who defected to USSR or North Korea remain American citizens unless and until they formally renounce that status.


24 posted on 09/30/2008 4:09:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: vaudine
When someone starts a run for the Presidency, why don't they be required to present a birth cert.?

Because the Constitution by inference leaves the determination of whether they meet the qualifications to the Electoral College? I'm fine with your idea, but it would require at minimum a new law, and possibly an amendment.

25 posted on 09/30/2008 4:11:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: SatinDoll

I believe he was born in Kenya and raised mostly in Indonesia.


26 posted on 09/30/2008 4:17:54 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: SatinDoll

That sounds about right. But he does have a black father and a white mother. It is likely that they produced Obama. There is a picture of Obama Senior and his white mama and Obama together.


27 posted on 09/30/2008 4:20:17 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Constitution says they must be a US citizen. It would make sense to have to prove it in order to run for President.


28 posted on 09/30/2008 4:24:33 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: beckysueb

Yes, it would. But the Constitution provides no mechanism for doing so. By implication this leaves it up to the EC to decide whether the qualifications have been met.


29 posted on 09/30/2008 4:28:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: beckysueb

Please tell us you forgot the words “natural born” ?


30 posted on 09/30/2008 4:32:21 AM PDT by healy61
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To: beckysueb

Obama lived in Indonesia from the age of 5 to 10. I don’t think this qualifies as “raised mostly” there. The ages of 10 to 18 are much more formative than 5 to 10.

There is also absolutely no evidence he was born anywhere other than USA. Lots of speculation, but no evidence. Even if he had been born outside USA, he would still almost certainly have qualified as a native-born citizen, since his mama was one.

People seem to keep forgetting that there are only two types of citizens: native born and naturalized. There is no third category.


31 posted on 09/30/2008 4:33:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: SE Mom; penelopesire; STARWISE

Morning coffee reading ping!


32 posted on 09/30/2008 4:33:50 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: FFranco
It’s pretty clear Obama wasn’t born in the US, probably Kenya, but maybe Canada, or even the USSR.

If it's pretty clear then you no doubt have tons of evidence supporting your claims. How about letting us in on some of it?

33 posted on 09/30/2008 4:37:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: housedeep
clintons know it...just holding it when they can use it when it really matters

You mean like...when you have a chance at the presidential nomination for the Democratic Party? </sarcasm>

34 posted on 09/30/2008 4:39:03 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ASA Vet

It’s amazing that the same people who are convinced that his birth certificate was photoshopped will accept anything else as gospel.


35 posted on 09/30/2008 4:40:45 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Miss Didi

Thanks for ping:)

There’s no doubt that the life and times of Obama are murky. There’s no doubt many people have worked tirelessly to show his basic unworthiness to be our president- for a myriad of sound reasons.

Whether anything comes out between now and the end of October that will change the minds of the voters- is the question.

At this point- I’m not too optimistic. We’ll see soon enough.


36 posted on 09/30/2008 4:41:58 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You forget that his family covered all this up while he was still a child to preserve his eligibility for the presidency.

To hold this opinion one must work to avoid noticing the insanity of thinking that anybody in 1960s Hawaii would have considered a half-black kid a likely candidate for that particular office. BTW, president and vice-resident are the only offices in the USA that require a citizen to be native-born as opposed to naturalized.


37 posted on 09/30/2008 4:50:42 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: Non-Sequitur
It’s amazing that the same people who are convinced that his birth certificate was photoshopped will accept anything else as gospel.

It's not a matter of being convinced his birth certificate is photoshopped - IT WAS and IT IS photoshopped. A little like saying you are not convinced terrorists took down the WTC towers on 9/11. You can't claim something is false if it has already been proven otherwise.

38 posted on 09/30/2008 5:01:08 AM PDT by library user
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To: Sherman Logan
Obama was born in the USA and is therefore a native born citizen.

Please answer me this; do you believe the 'birth certificate' (Certificate of Live Birth) on the fightthesmears website is genuine?

39 posted on 09/30/2008 5:10:04 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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Obama Admits Dual Citizenship [Updated]
40 posted on 09/30/2008 5:10:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (In VP's, McCain picked the future, Obama chose the past.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Obama was born in the USA and is therefore a native born citizen.”

This has never been conclusively proven. All Obama ever had to do to put this issue to bed, was to release a true birth certificate. He never has.

Do you wonder why his white grandmother has never been seen or interviewed? Aside from Obama’s orders to the press of course. His Kenyan relatives SAY he was born there. His mother’s best high school friend who lives in state of Washngton SAYS Stanley Ann showed up in state of Washington with a newborn baby whose diapers she did not know how to change. His adoption at about age 4 cand change of citizenship by Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetero is factual. Records are “sealed”. All of these questions could be put to bed with release of a true birth certificate.

If you don’t know the history of the fake Hawaiian document “Certificate” posted on his website by a KOS groupee, read texasdarlin’s blog.


41 posted on 09/30/2008 5:21:45 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

What’s interesting about TexasDarlin’s blog right now is that it is a reminder that the Clintons don’t want Barry to win. Given how he’s pulled into the lead therefore, one waits for another boot or two to drop.


42 posted on 09/30/2008 5:24:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SatinDoll

Even if it is true, what do you think will happen as a result? Obama getting yanked as the dim candidate? At this point in the game? FAT CHANCE!

You could dig up videotape of Obama setting a bunch of nuns on fire and it wouldn’t change one damn thing.

Let’s just concentrate on beating the bastard at the ballot box in November.


43 posted on 09/30/2008 5:27:30 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("And how can this be? For I am the Kwisatz Haderach! " - Barack Obama)
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To: 9YearLurker
I think the Clintons are very angry and contemptuous of Obama (and the contempt is mutual) , but are probably still figuring by the hour, which situation best advances their personal interests.

Bill is making some eye raising and interesting comments about how he and the republicans tried to rein in Fanny Mae fraud.

Hillary the great democrat popular vote winner is conspicuously MIA on steering her party through the current financial crisis and bailout plan. Even though she is a New York senator and Wall street is
“her” constituency.

44 posted on 09/30/2008 5:30:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: SatinDoll
from the article:

.....The only issue of contention Faleomavaega would face from the Indonesian government would be the issue of West Papau. In the end, it was simply a give and take situation. The Obama campaign needed assistance from the Indonesian government and the Indonesian government wanted a free hand in Papau...

Sadly, the world does not know very much about what is going on in West Papua:

MASS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY & GENOCIDE:

The Independent State of Papua New Guinea is experiencing cross-border incursions by some Indonesians. However, West Papua -- the western half of the island -- is experiencing wide-spread genocide.

According to Survival-International: "All the Papuan peoples have suffered greatly under the Indonesian occupation which has been in force since 1963. The Indonesian army has a long history of human rights violations against the Papuans, and the racist Indonesian soldiers generally view the Papuan people as little more than animals. Papua's natural resources are being exploited at great profit for the Indonesian government and foreign businesses, but at the expense of the Papuan peoples and their homelands. When international companies come to Papua the Indonesian military accompanies them to 'protect' the 'vital projects': with the military there always come human rights violations such as killings, arbitrary arrests, rape and torture. Those Papuans who protest against the Indonesian government, the military or 'vital projects' are even more likely to experience abuses of their human rights." 3,4,5,6 An estimated 100,000 of them were killed by the Indonesian armed forces between 1963 and 2002. 5 The mass murder continues to the present time.

On 2003-DEC-10, The Orville H. Schell, Jr. Center for International Human Rights and the Allard K. Lowenstein International Human Rights Clinic and Project at Yale Law School issued a report denouncing human rights abuses in Papua. 7 They concluded that the historical and contemporary evidence "strongly suggests that the Indonesian government has committed proscribed acts with the intent to destroy the West Papuans...

45 posted on 09/30/2008 5:39:36 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Sherman Logan
Obama was born in the USA and is therefore a native born citizen.

Have you read the blog post linked above? The blog owner isn't making that argument -- in fact, she's said repeatedly that she believes he was born in the U.S.

If you read the material, including American Expat's post (linked at the link), you'll find that the questions are a) whether he was a citizen of Indonesia through adoption; b) whether he gave up or renounced that citizenship when he achieved the legal age of 18; and c) whether he ever traveled, as an adult, on an Indonesian passport as an Indonesian citizen; and d) if the answer to any of the above is affirmative, has he deliberately attempted to conceal the fact(s)?

46 posted on 09/30/2008 5:40:12 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Miss Didi

Thanks for the ‘mornin’ ping. Sounds plausible to me that the slime machine surrounding Obama would do anything and everything to hide Obama’s past from the American people.


47 posted on 09/30/2008 5:44:48 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: silverleaf

In order to obtain a US passport, Obama had to substantiate that he was a US citizen. How did he do it?


48 posted on 09/30/2008 5:45:23 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: Sherman Logan; expatguy

“...To hold this opinion one must work to avoid noticing the insanity of thinking that anybody in 1960s Hawaii would have considered a half-black kid a likely candidate for that particular office...

Link to original article:

http://laotze.blogspot.com/

Useful resource:

http://www.theobamafile.com/


49 posted on 09/30/2008 5:45:45 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: SatinDoll
"...dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries"
US State Dept.
50 posted on 09/30/2008 5:46:18 AM PDT by kanawa (http://www.canadalovessarah.ca/)
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