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Bankruptcy, not bailout, is the right answer
CNN ^ | Sept. 29, 2008 | Jeffrey A. Miron

Posted on 09/29/2008 11:44:14 PM PDT by curiosity

Congress has balked at the Bush administration's proposed $700 billion bailout of Wall Street. Under this plan, the Treasury would have bought the "troubled assets" of financial institutions in an attempt to avoid economic meltdown. This bailout was a terrible idea. Here's why.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bailout; financialcrisis; lp

1 posted on 09/29/2008 11:44:15 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
I love how the Bush-Pelosi-Frank bailout is BUSH'S bailout, which wise Congress wisely discarded in its wise wisdom.

Against Pelosi-Frank's wishes, of course, but it's BUSH'S bailout.

If it passed, it'd be the Congressional Bailout Success.

2 posted on 09/29/2008 11:46:37 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: curiosity
Excellent read, Thank you.

I think it's time to jettison the waste. We'd be better off propping up smaller institutions with injections of capital at low interest rates to get the credit flowing again. That way these institutions will get a chance to show their competitiveness and to grow and thrive.

3 posted on 09/29/2008 11:50:10 PM PDT by Tempest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlXgzzdJQA)
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To: Darkwolf377

Media speak with fork-ed tongue.
Great white Mother in Washington Pelosi is always on winning side.


4 posted on 09/29/2008 11:50:25 PM PDT by antceecee (McCain ~ Palin '08!!!!! May God have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

She pullum extra votes out of Biden’s hairplug-holes


5 posted on 09/29/2008 11:51:01 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: Darkwolf377

Don’t forget Hussein 0bama. It’s the Bush-Pelosi-Frank-0bama bailout. 0bama said he deserved ‘credit’, too, so let’s be sure we give it to him.


6 posted on 09/29/2008 11:53:09 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Post Toasties

I’m just surprised he didn’t thank Sergeant...uhhhh’s mother because knowing she was out there guided him in doing whatever the heck it was he did during this crisis—oh, right, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.


7 posted on 09/29/2008 11:56:29 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: antceecee

Heap big whitewash.


8 posted on 09/29/2008 11:58:04 PM PDT by Califreak (Three Bank Monte-confidence artistry of the elite)
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To: curiosity

Don’t worry Nancy!

CNN has got your back!


9 posted on 09/29/2008 11:58:59 PM PDT by Califreak (Three Bank Monte-confidence artistry of the elite)
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To: curiosity
I don't want to see one f----ing dime go out until the following occurs:
1. Explain in simple understandable terms exactly WHO is responsible for this mess and WHY.
2. Have the guilty prosecuted to the full extent of the LAW.
3. If Republicans are responsible then let us know.
SOMEBODY FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WITH HALF A SPINE NEEDS TO GET ON TV AND STAY ON TV UNTIL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW WHO WHY AND HOW! ! ! ! ! !

I have been saying for a long time it is time to replace the 535 and start over. This may be our opportunity.

10 posted on 09/30/2008 3:44:11 AM PDT by Voter#537 (MCLAIM IS BACK TO BEING MCLAIM SAY HELLO TO PRESIDENT OBAMA GOODBYE TO AMERICA)
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To: Voter#537

And if MCLAIM had half a spine ... HE would do it!


11 posted on 09/30/2008 3:49:36 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: curiosity

Politicians are now in Katrina mode. Everything’s a meaninglessly natural disaster and the govt must ride to the rescue.


12 posted on 09/30/2008 3:51:30 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Voter#537
“SOMEBODY FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WITH HALF A SPINE NEEDS TO GET ON TV AND STAY ON TV UNTIL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW WHO WHY AND HOW! ! ! ! ! ! “

Sorry I Don’t think is going to happen. There all politically spineless eunuchs.

13 posted on 09/30/2008 3:52:13 AM PDT by Bailee
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To: Voter#537

1. Explain in simple understandable terms exactly WHO is responsible for this mess and WHY.

Thats not going to happen. The main culprits are the many, many people (and businesses) that have simply been living beyond their means, on credit, for years and years and years.

You dont win many votes telling people they are fools.


14 posted on 09/30/2008 3:52:38 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Voter#537

They can’t explain why we need this bail out without going into the social policy political payoffs.

They would have to explain who is responsible for pushing loans based on skin color qualifiers.

They would have to explain why some lobbyists were hired NOT to lobby for opponents.

If they explain it the way you want, barney frank and maxine waters would be going to jail.


15 posted on 09/30/2008 4:03:55 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: curiosity

<<”So what should the government do? Eliminate those policies that generated the current mess. This means, at a general level, abandoning the goal of home ownership independent of ability to pay. This means, in particular, getting rid of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, along with policies like the Community Reinvestment Act that pressure banks into subprime lending.”>>

Bingo!! But lotsaluck getting a Rat to support this plan.


16 posted on 09/30/2008 4:07:47 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: Bailee
There all politically spineless eunuchs.

We're totally disgusted by both candidates at this point (of course we were always disgusted with Obama.)

McCain gets no pass because he's playing "finger to the wind" politics just like Barry. Watching Barry is getting amusing because he's just trying to stay far away from any committment on the issue (which really makes one feel good about his leadership ability /sarc.)

But the bottom line is somebody in this country of politicians needs to exhibit some leadership no matter what the consequences. I do feel like the House Republicans did that yesterday.

If McCain comes out strong on the issue and loses the race, sobeit...he did the right thing. But pussy footing around the truth (on so many levels) makes me angry.

17 posted on 09/30/2008 4:08:38 AM PDT by Dawn531
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To: Bailee
Sorry I Don’t think is going to happen. There all politically spineless eunuchs.

Yea, that is why they blocked it.

18 posted on 09/30/2008 4:12:44 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ('we don't make compromises-we make Marines')
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To: curiosity

Bill Sammons was on Fox & Friends this morning and said that defeat of the Paulson bailout package actually puts House Republicans in the driver’s seat regarding the next version of the rescue plan. He said some of the things they considered like getting rid of mark-to-market, reducing capital gains taxes and reducing corporate taxes may be included in the next plan. I don’t know if thats really going to happen, but if it does it will be a real ‘feather in the cap’ of the House Republicans.


19 posted on 09/30/2008 4:13:12 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: curiosity

Very, very interesting.
I’ve forwarded it to friends.
Thanks for posting it.


20 posted on 09/30/2008 4:16:11 AM PDT by syriacus (Under Bush, Dems controlled the Senate for MOST of the 107th Congress and for ALL of the 110th)
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To: Voter#537
It's not going to happen. Too many members of the GOP including the leaders encouraged this credit expansion in order to get housing to all the potential minority voters who could never qualify for financing except for relaxation of standards. These so-called compassionate republicans were perfectly willing to join the socialist democrats in sacrificing the national interest to get votes.
21 posted on 09/30/2008 4:17:46 AM PDT by brydic1
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To: Tempest
Just for the sake of discussion, how do you imagine you can inject capital into those small institutions? That's the actual problem here... the plumbing that the Fed typically uses for the injection of capital is broken. So what should they do? Simply buy a straight equity stake and "nationalize" the banks directly?

Seriously ... I'm interested in hearing your ideas.

22 posted on 09/30/2008 4:18:06 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: curiosity

Bankruptcy is an effecient way to do away with poorly performing organizations.


23 posted on 09/30/2008 4:20:40 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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To: Dawn531

I kinda feel sorry for McCain. He used to amend his brand of conservatism to attune to the desires of the NY Slimes and the TV network anchors. Now they won’t touch him no matter where he comes down. Poor thing. All those years of kowtowing to those leftists and then they stab him in the back.


24 posted on 09/30/2008 4:22:25 AM PDT by brydic1
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To: curiosity
No bailout will help. This is just the first wave of the financial tsunami that is to come. Next will be the credit crisis. It's better to let the markets do their thing and if some institutions go under then so be it. Perhaps next time businesses will look more at their balance sheets and less at empty Congressional promises. There will be sunshine on the other side.


25 posted on 09/30/2008 4:25:27 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Darkwolf377

While FR was down I ventured over to ...the other side. It is always amazing to read some of the stuff over there, but it was a few posts of republican rebuke regarding the bailout that left my head spinning! Or at least wanting to post a rebuttal to their stupid forum, yet the MSM is doing the same darn thing! Uggghhhh?

It was Republicans that stopped this bill! Republicans! Dang it all! It wasn’t your swarmy small minded business inept crook democrats, it was Republicans!

Good God we need someone to come forward and educate the public about what the heck happened and we need people to take that long walk in new bracelets!

The ones who were pushing this plan were democrats.


26 posted on 09/30/2008 4:26:09 AM PDT by EBH ( Welcome to the USSA. Sept. 29, 2008)
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To: Voter#537
I have been saying for a long time it is time to replace the 535 and start over.

Every two years there are 435 opportunities

27 posted on 09/30/2008 4:31:06 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: curiosity; All
This is a very strong piece.

I was going to post it but FR was down. I'm glad others have found it.

If McCain had any horse sense rather than the usual wall street gadflies in his ears, he'd run against the bailout and for a sensible resolution, protecting taxpayers, like proposed in this piece.

28 posted on 09/30/2008 4:31:26 AM PDT by newzjunkey (McCain-Palin! YES CA Prop 4. (Family notification for underage abortions))
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To: Go Gordon

Technically you are correct. But in reality, there’s no risk to the overwhelming majority of those 435 incumbents. There aren’t the good candidates willing to run and there certainly isn’t the funding to mount serious campaigns in most of those districts. You won’t get even one debate. Lastly, thanks to gerrymandering you’d have to nuke most of the electorate just to get someone of the other party even a snowball’s chance in hell of being considered let along elected.


29 posted on 09/30/2008 4:37:05 AM PDT by newzjunkey (McCain-Palin! YES CA Prop 4. (Family notification for underage abortions))
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
And if MCLAIM had half a spine ... HE would do it!

Politics will NEVER solve crime....Politics covers up crime.

Only a grizzled old law enforcement officer with a I-don't-give-a-damn death-wish could get to the real truth.... America needs a real lawman with a truckload of handcuffs (for Barney Franks), plenty of firepower, and a stainless steel billy-club....NOW!


30 posted on 09/30/2008 4:40:45 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: curiosity

Did anyone notice this at the end of the article?

“The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the writer.’

I have never seen CNN cover themselves with this before in all the crap they post. I guess they can have it either way depending how the wind blows.


31 posted on 09/30/2008 6:20:08 AM PDT by nclaurel (I think therefore I vote Republican.)
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To: bamahead

ping


32 posted on 09/30/2008 6:52:14 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: curiosity

Now THAT was a fantastic article. Thanks for posting it.


33 posted on 09/30/2008 7:12:42 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: nclaurel
I have never seen CNN cover themselves with this before in all the crap they post. I guess they can have it either way depending how the wind blows.

I'd guess they did that because the author of the piece is a . . . LIBERTARIAN! OH DEAR, A POTHEAD!

34 posted on 09/30/2008 7:19:00 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: tcostell

No, it’s just that with modern technology the notion that you can only fund the larger institutions is absurd, inefficient, and not cost effective. Making funds available directly to the smaller institution would cut out the middleman. Reward the prudent, and maintain credit flow for families and small businesses.


35 posted on 09/30/2008 7:20:59 AM PDT by Tempest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlXgzzdJQA)
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To: curiosity

bump


36 posted on 09/30/2008 8:01:48 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: newzjunkey

Yes, until proven to the contrary, this small-’l’ libertarian professor should become a new favorite on Free Republic. His underlying message seems to be one of small government, which of course is the base on which Reagan built his coalition.


37 posted on 09/30/2008 8:12:27 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: traviskicks; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
The fact that government bears such a huge responsibility for the current mess means any response should eliminate the conditions that created this situation in the first place, not attempt to fix bad government with more government.



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
38 posted on 09/30/2008 9:27:22 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Voter#537
1. Explain in simple understandable terms exactly WHO is responsible for this mess and WHY.

There are many, many people who contributed to this mess. There were mortgage brokers who knowingly originated loans based on fraudulant information. Fannie and Freddie contributed to this by giving favorable terms to brokers who originated subprime loans. There were the rating agencies who rated toxic paper as AAA. And then, there were the risk management departments at the big banks who either because of laziness or incompetence or greed, or a liitle of all three, looked the other way while their traders loaded up on subprime exposure. Finally, there were the boards of major financial institutions who failed to provde any oversight over their risk management departments.

2. Have the guilty prosecuted to the full extent of the LAW.

While there are some illegal acts behind the crisis, like the mortgage brokers who ignored obvious fraud, most of the bad acts were imprudent but not illegal.

IMHO, the root of the crisis is poor corporate governance at the financial institutions. If the boards had been doing their job and keeping an eye on management, the firms would not have taken on all this subprime exposure. Excessive reliance on credit ratings is also a major problem.

3. If Republicans are responsible then let us know.

The one area they might bear some blame is in the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which sheltered the credit derivatives market from regulation. But I'm not sure. I have to study this issue more.

While most claims that deregulation is responsible are pure BS (eg., the repeal of Glass-Steagal in 1999), there might be some truth to the assertion that the CFMA contributed to the crisis. But like I said, I have to study this more.

39 posted on 09/30/2008 11:17:23 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Here is an explanation:

http://docs.google.com/TeamPresent?docid=ddp4zq7n_0cdjsr4fn&skipauth=true&pli=1

CAUTION, CONTAINS WRITTEN ADULT LANGUAGE. IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED, DO NOT OPEN THIS LINK.


40 posted on 09/30/2008 11:24:44 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: A. Patriot
That's got to be the single best explanation of the crisis I've seen. Kudos to whoever wrote it. Thanks for the link!
41 posted on 09/30/2008 11:33:54 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

bump


42 posted on 09/30/2008 8:39:12 PM PDT by Tempest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlXgzzdJQA)
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