Skip to comments.Berg files motion asking court to deny Obama's dismissal request [No order]
Posted on 10/01/2008 8:16:50 PM PDT by conservativegramma
On defendant's Barack Hussein Obama and the Democratic National Committee's Motion to Dismiss Plaintifs Complaint.........Denied...........
Order of this Court that the following discovery is to be turned over to Plaintiff within 3 days
1. Obama's "vault"version (certified copy of his original long version Birth Certificate and
2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship
3. A Certified Copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance
Filed September 29, 2008
“The natural born requirement though is met by his mother being clearly... an American citizen at the time of his birth. So, wherever he was born is moot, really...”
You are quite incorrect. His mother was too young under the law at that time, so if he was born outside the USA, Barry is clearly not eligible to be POTUS.
The media all know about it -- both mainstream and alternative. It is being deliberately spiked by both sides.
Then, if he was born in Kenya, why would he hide it? That makes no sense.
I notice in the exhibits, exhibit #3 says that they have located a birth certificate for Barry in Kenya. Where is that?! I want to see it, but I can not find the exhibit. Surely they wouldn’t go all the way to Kenya and not take a photo of said Birth Cert?
It’s only a copy of the proposed order submitted by berg, not one signed by the court. i already posted that earlier in the thread.
Thanks for the ping, though. keep me posted!
Not only is the posted “Order” merely a proposed Order, I see NO basis for the Judge to order anything turned over. Plaintiffs would have to bring a noticed or ex parte motion to COMPEL discovery.
When one party [Obama] moves for something [dismissal], the non-moving party [Berg] in its proposed order denying the motion cannot include an order giving the non-moving party [Berg] affirmative relief [compelled discovery].
If the Judge rules in Berg’s favor, and uses the proposed Order provided by Berg [unlikely], he will surely strike out the part about turning over discovery.
In fact, the judge who hears the pleading motion may not handle discovery at all. The Feds often do that using a separate Judge-magistrate. Berg, by including an order compelling discovery, appears to be grandstanding.
I have to admit — I thought the lawsuit would get tossed.
Hey,,,I guess we’re grabbin’ at straws,,,but,,,
Mite be a log under there...;0)
Cross our fingers and toes.
I would give Obama the future of an artillery 2 Louie forward observer in Korea -
Vets will tell you what that was
Anyone in the NRA should sign up everyone in their family and have them wear the black and gold NRA ballcaps all the time
To the grocery store, gas station, inside at voting places, city hall, work, everywhere
Anyone not in the NRA should do the same
My opinion of those involved in voter fraud any way or even supervising - is Capitol Punishment
Preferably by guillotine in the public square
Other methods seem to be labeled as “racist” or “causing pain” or “too slow”
I’d feed the remains to wild hogs
A man that killed some puppies got 15 years in prison
Commies, Socialists, Anarchists involved in voter fraud, multiple voting, etc. -
They never get prosecuted
What is your freedom, liberty, are your rights worth?
All our millions of brave soldiers that have died for your rights -
America is giving to to the Marxists with cash for ACORN to boot!
According to reports, Stanley Ann Dunham was not known for her admiration of the institution of marriage. I’m thinking the parents were probably not so surprised by this turn of events.
It seems that her parents did not have any hesitation to take Obama into their home and raise him when his mother sent him back to Hawaii. I suppose it is possible they were estranged ten years earlier when he was born.
But first grandchild, as you point out, of their only child? Hard to imagine.
Crossed up here Fo’Sho!
I’m afraid I agree with you.
Is this Berg a serious lawyer?
That is totally incorrect.
The laws on the books at the time of Obama’s birth clearly
state that if a child is born abroad and one parent
is a U.S. citizen, that parent has to have resided in
the U.S. for 10 years five (5) of which are after the age
of fourteen (14).
That would require Obama’s mother Srtanley Ann Dunham to
be twenty (20) years old at the time of Mr. Obama’s birth.
Ms. Dunham was not. She was 18.
Ms Dunham did not meet the residency requirements at the
time of Mr. Obama’s birth per Section 301(a)(7) of the
Immigration and Nationality act of June 27th, 1952
66 statute 163, 235, 8 U.S.C. 1401(b).
it’s no use... even if they found out Obama was the Ayatollah Khomeini’s son you would see the congress pass a constitutional ammendment faster than they can spend $700,000,000,000
Better hillary than an avowed marxist manchurian candidate
thanks for the ping. Interesting
I didn't want to search though my posts for the DIRECT link, but the link on Politicususa has the story of a Bill Clinton interview entitled:
Bill Clinton, IMHO, had the STRANGEST QUOTE:
From the article:
"In an interview that aired on ABCs World News Tonight Bill Clinton denied that he is angry at Barack Obama, but offered very little in terms of an endorsement and enthusiasm for the Democratic nominee.
Clinton denied that he is still angry, Im not, and I never was mad at Senator Obama."
"I think everybodys got a right to run for president if he qualifies under the Constitution,.........
End of Excerpt
That line STILL rings with me. Why throw in: "IF he qualifies under the constitution", unless Bill was throwing out a BIG hint, and maybe a THREAT to Obamassiah tha if he didn't pick Hillary for VP, he had "THE GOODS" on him??
OK...Asbestos suit snugly in place....ready to hit post...
See: Section 301(a)(7)
“Section 201. The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
“(g) A person born outside the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, has had ten years’ residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, at least five of which were after attaining the age of sixteen years, the other being an alien: Provided, That in order to retain such citizenship, the child must reside in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling five years between the ages of thirteen and twenty-one years: Provided further, That, if the child has not taken up a residence in the United States or its outlying possessions by the time he reaches the age of sixteen years, or if he resides abroad for such a time that it becomes impossible for him to complete the five years’ residence in the United States or its outlying possessions before reaching the age of twenty-one years, his American citizenship shall thereupon cease.
(h) The foregoing provisions of subsection (g) concerning retention of citizenship shall apply to a child born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934.”
1952 The Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b). (Section 301 of the Act).
“Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
“(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
“(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.
Berg posted as promised
Does this mean the court has ordered it now?
what are the chances that he could get his 1/2 billion $$ campaign to just make up a “new” birth certificate?
You are absolutely right. Often when a judge reaches a decision and announces it in court, he instructs one or other side of the case to prepare the final order for his signature so his/her staff is not burdened with the work.
Hopefully this is the case here and the court order will be signed by the judge and certified by the court clerk.
If so, hold your breath.
Possibly. See my previous comment
Come on, this is all for naught. If the Clintons haven’t uncovered this by now, BO would have been toast. We are grasping at straws. And believe me, I would love for this to be true. It’s just not in the cards.
WAS is his oath of allegiance? I don’t recall having that. I thought that was for foreigners.
Obama has always run unopposed in the elections he ran for the State of Illinois and for US Senate. Now the table is turned on him, and we’re trying to get him off the playing field. And he doesn’t like it.
I'm not saying you were one of them, but isn't it interesting that so many of the FReepers who loudly bashed Rush over "Operation Chaos" are so quiet now.
They were warned.
“I never liked Hillary, but she is not a racist muslim turned black liberationist, and shed pass the 3 AM test.”
I will second that.
This is just like 2004. Remember when john kerry signed his SF 180 and lost the election!!
Did I really need to add a sarcasm tag?
>>>factcheck.org, an Obama friendly web site, inadvertently revealed he had Kenyan citizenship.
Obama gave it credibilty too by posting it on his campaign site too.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
Thanks for the ping!
Then the real story is the U.S. media spiking the story.
I totally agree. Do you think that there is anything we, as Berg admirers, can do to help protect him? I really am worried based on the police state tactics OB’s crowd has created in Missori.
His mother was not five years a resident of the U.S. after her 18th birthday when he was born (was it PRIOR TO her 18th? Not sure.) so that legal requirement was NOT met. So if he was born in Kenya, he DOES NOT meet the requirements of the Constitution. Point is HARDLY moot.
Chances of forging & making a new BC?
find some old paper
document a ‘home birth’ by a now deceased midwife.
lock white granny up, so she don’t spill the beans.
Now, prove it ain’t so
It’s not only easy, it’s cheap!!!!
I looked it up...the Judge is a Clinton appointee!
any update on this?
Haven’t seen an update yet, but bumping back to the top as this is a potentially explosive story
At least someone tried.
RUSH IS DISCUSSING THE Mysterious BIRTH CERTIFICATE issue right now.
Kenya, Berg, granny, dual-citizenship, etc. all mentioned.
Cats out of the bag.........