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Steve Fossett's Plane Wreckage Possibly Found in Calif.
Fox News ^ | October 2, 2008

Posted on 10/02/2008 12:01:26 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah

MAMMOTH LAKES, Calif. — Search teams combing a rugged part of eastern California for any sign of Steve Fossett, the adventurer who vanished on a solo flight more than a year ago, have spotted what appeared to be wreckage Wednesday, authorities said.

Erica Stuart, spokeswoman for the Madera County Sheriff's Office, would not reveal the exact location of the reported aerial sighting, which she said was called in around sunset.

Searchers had been combing a 10-mile radius around the spot where a hiker had found what appeared to be a pilot's license and other items belonging to Fossett earlier in the week.

A ground team was en route to the site Wednesday night, and authorities would be able to confirm there is actual wreckage and whether it belongs to Fossett on Thursday morning, Stuart said.

Authorities, however, cautioned that hundreds of planes have gone down in the mountainous region, so any wreckage found could belong to other cases.

Earlier in the week a hiker discovered what may be Fossett's personal belongings in the California woods not far from the Nevada state line.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; fossett; missing; stevefossett

1 posted on 10/02/2008 12:01:27 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
First reports of this find sounded promising.  For the benefit of the family, I hope this turns out to be Fossette's wreckage.


2 posted on 10/02/2008 12:11:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: LucyT

ping


3 posted on 10/02/2008 12:25:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This is a bizarre story. The area cited in another report - Red’s Meadow - is hugely popular with campers and hikers.

There would have been hundreds of people in this area on September 3, 2007 which was Labor Day. Also, although the terrain there is rugged, it is not heavily forested like some of the Sierra.

Hard to believe a plane could have gone down here on one of the summer’s busiest weekends and nobody noticed.


4 posted on 10/02/2008 12:32:02 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber

You wouldn’t think it would be so hard, but here it is 40 years later, and we are still getting pilots remains back from Viet Nam. We still have so many mountainous, forested, unpopulated regions here.


5 posted on 10/02/2008 12:40:35 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet

The area cited in the story is not remote or unpopulated, especially on Labor Day weekend. It’s full of hikers and campers. That’s what’s interesting about this story.

I was backpacking out of Red’s Meadow on Labor Day 2006.


6 posted on 10/02/2008 12:55:05 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber

Thanks for the comments. It does sound strange doesn’t it.


7 posted on 10/02/2008 12:58:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: BigBobber

That area is incredibly large, rugged, and mountainous. Planes disappear easily in those mountains. Yesterday I read the guy who found the wallet was hiking off the trail, so he would have been in a remote area. BTW, kudos to that guy for being an honest and upright man. They said there was a thousand bucks in the wallet. If he had kept it nobody would have known.


8 posted on 10/02/2008 12:59:21 AM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Farenheit 451 page bailout bill burns Constitution for votes)
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To: athelass

Yes, it seems like so many missing person remains are found by guys out in the woods walking their dogs. I’m sure the family will be glad to have some closure.


9 posted on 10/02/2008 1:05:37 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber
For a small plane like that, though, if it went down a mile away, no one might notice it.

Years ago, my neighbor shot an intruder in his house. It was very early in the morning. I heard the shot, but thought it must have been a power transformer blowing up, or some idiot setting off a cherry bomb.

Not until the cops and ambulance showed up, and the cops pounded on my door to ask what I had heard, did I realize what happened.

So, you hear the sound of a plane crashing, but you think it's a distant gunshot from a hunter, or heat lightning, or whatever. Your mind doesn't recognize it as something worse, like a plane crash, unless you see it going down. Easy for such a thing to get lost.

10 posted on 10/02/2008 1:53:14 AM PDT by FlyVet (m)
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To: FlyVet
For a small plane like that, though, if it went down a mile away, no one might notice it.

This past summer, went to dinner at a riverfront restaurant at the Jersey Shore. While we were eating dinner, an experimental airplane took a nosedive into a nearby marina, a short walk away. We didn't notice a thing, nor did anyone else in the restaurant. We did see a couple of State Police boats motor up the river, but guessed it was their end of patrol or something.

We read about the crash in the newspaper the next day.

11 posted on 10/02/2008 4:39:28 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: DoughtyOne

We had something unusual happen here in Panama recently concerning a British couple:

Five years ago he faked his drowning back in Briton. He was a canoeist.

Wife collects on life insurance and moves to the Republic of Panama.

He finds out that she is having and affair with a Panamanian.

Light turns on. Since he is dead, she can walk off with their money.

What to do? He goes back to England and turns himself and his wife into the authorities.

Both in Jail.

End of story.


12 posted on 10/02/2008 4:59:49 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) ("We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.")
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

So much for Steve Fossett chilling out somewhere on a South American beach.


13 posted on 10/02/2008 6:09:57 AM PDT by Ghengis (“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television" Joe Biden)
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To: FlyVet; Sooth2222

Yes, if his engine cut out and he glided into a crash there would have been little noise.


14 posted on 10/02/2008 8:08:21 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I remember hearing about that. What a strange turn of events. They pulled it off, but when morals are that low, there’s bound to be other evidences of it.

This guy must have been very ticked off.


15 posted on 10/02/2008 9:01:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: BIGLOOK

Fossett Ping

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


16 posted on 10/02/2008 9:29:37 AM PDT by alfa6 (One mans magic is another mans engineering... L.L.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

MAMMOTH LAKES, Calif. - Searchers found the wreckage of Steve Fossett’s plane in California’s rugged Sierra Nevada just over a year after the millionaire adventurer vanished on a solo flight, and the craft appears to have hit the mountainside head-on, authorities said Thursday.

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Most of the plane’s fuselage disintegrated on impact, and the engine was found several hundred feet away at an elevation of 9,700 feet, authorities said.

“It was a hard-impact crash, and he would’ve died instantly,” said Jeff Page, emergency management coordinator for Lyon County, Nev., who assisted the search.


17 posted on 10/02/2008 9:31:08 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

Where is his body?

Surely there would still be some evidence of him somewhere ... .


18 posted on 10/02/2008 10:25:29 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh; Smokin' Joe

“Sheriff John Anderson said no human remains were found in the wreckage.

“It’s quite often if you don’t find remains within a few days, because of animals, you’ll find nothing at all,” Anderson said.”

To be realistic... a bear killed and ate a deer in my backyard. An hour later, the only visible signs of a struggle was blood in the snow.


19 posted on 10/02/2008 10:35:16 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: DoughtyOne

Thank you for your reply.

If you give me some time (tomorrow), I will send you some articles on this.

Very recently the husband was given a good whacking in prison because he had been working in the prison system before he decided he was dead but then decided he was alive.

My best regards.


20 posted on 10/02/2008 10:36:40 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) ("We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.")
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To: Ghengis

On the other hand, where is John Galt? Maybe he just disappeared into Galt’s Gulch. I’m surprised that no one has mentioned “Atlas Shrugged,” where the rich and productive faked their own deaths or other disappearances to drop out of the society run by the incompetent moochers and corrupt politicians.


21 posted on 10/02/2008 10:38:44 AM PDT by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: LucyT

I hope they find remains so family can have complete closure and give him a proper burial.


22 posted on 10/02/2008 10:43:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: BigBobber
if his engine cut out and he glided into a crash there would have been little noise.

FOX had one of the searchers on the phone this morning and by all appearances of the wreckage it was going full blast as it plowed into the mountain; the engine was thrown on upward something like 300 more yards.

23 posted on 10/02/2008 10:47:20 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Thanks... LOL.


24 posted on 10/02/2008 11:00:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: LucyT

How’s anybody gonna know that? Even if they’ve retrieved year old remains, that isn’t going to be evident. (I wouldn’t think, anyhow)


26 posted on 10/02/2008 11:17:53 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: TIElniff
On the other hand, where is John Galt? Maybe he just disappeared into Galt’s Gulch. I’m surprised that no one has mentioned “Atlas Shrugged,” where the rich and productive faked their own deaths or other disappearances to drop out of the society run by the incompetent moochers and corrupt politicians.

Maybe I missed something, but were there any signs of Mr. Fossett becoming disenchated and wanting to 'check out' of society or life? I recall him supposedly actively planning an future agenda consistent with the last few years of his life.

Unless I see some evidence that makes me scratch my chin and go, "hmmmm" I'll chalk this incident up to tragic accident.

27 posted on 10/02/2008 11:24:20 AM PDT by Ghengis (“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television" Joe Biden)
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To: ErnBatavia

The cause of death never will be determined; I’m just guessing it was a heart attack, it could have been a stroke, he may have fallen asleep, the engine could have failed...no one will ever know for sure.


28 posted on 10/02/2008 11:31:43 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT
Did he have a history of heart problems? The reports are that the motor wound up 300 feet uphill from the fuselage and wings, that indicates a full power impact.

More than likely he was looking down instead of up, and didn't have enough time to pull up. A heart attack I would think he would chop power and look for a place to set down, or at least get on the radio, which didn't occur either.

29 posted on 10/02/2008 11:40:11 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Palin has run a state, city, and a business. NObama has only run his mouth.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

MAMMOTH LAKES, Calif. - Federal investigators said Thursday they found human remains amid the wreckage of missing adventurer Steve Fossett’s airplane in the mountains of eastern California.

The remains were found among a field of debris that stretched 400 feet long and 150 feet wide in a steep section of the Sierra Nevada.

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“We found human remains, but there’s very little. Given the length of time the wreckage has been out there, it’s not surprising there’s not very much,” said National Transportation Safety Board acting Chairman Mark Rosenker said. “I’m not going to elaborate on what it is.”


30 posted on 10/02/2008 5:18:55 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Ghengis

You didn’t miss anything. It’s been some years since I last read Atlas Shrugged, but I don’t remember that those who disappeared gave any indication that they were unhappy. They just disappeared.

Also, I didn’t mean to assert that that’s what happened to Steve Fossett, but only that no one had suggested the parallel (except me, that is!).


31 posted on 10/02/2008 7:29:41 PM PDT by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff
I gotcha' now.

I have to admit that I was blurring your comparison with the volumes of other comments regarding Fossett. Comments that, in a nutshell, supposedly had him sipping a margarita in Costa Rica after allegedly staging his own death.

32 posted on 10/02/2008 7:48:11 PM PDT by Ghengis (“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television" Joe Biden)
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To: DoughtyOne

Here’s the link:

http://www.panama-guide.com/search.php?query=darwin&type=all&mode=search

It contains 10 articles on John Darwin and his wife.

Enjoy.

Regards.


33 posted on 10/03/2008 6:47:29 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) ("We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.")
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Thank you for the link.


34 posted on 10/03/2008 11:18:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re as welcome as the flowers in May. : )

Talking about Darwin, Exploding Toilet Guy is up for the Darwin award (comment at the end of what I sent. You will find it if you do a quick search).


35 posted on 10/03/2008 1:49:50 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) ("We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.")
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