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Palin's Small Town Snobbery
Townhall.com ^ | October 2, 2008 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 10/02/2008 4:59:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: ichabod1
I would propose that the drug problem went from the cities to the country.

The problem in our neck of the woods is the city kids that got kicked out of school and sent to live with Grandma or some other relative in the country, then attend our schools, but still have their "connections" in the city.

51 posted on 10/02/2008 6:02:37 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ichabod1

Thanks for the upbeat message. I sure hope and pray that you are right. By the way, what’s a “beayotch”?


52 posted on 10/02/2008 6:04:08 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: Tax-chick

but isn’t that, in effect, exactly what Obams did in San Fran, when discussing the rubes who cling to their religion and guns in the heartland?


53 posted on 10/02/2008 6:04:32 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Tax-chick
"Joe Biden would never get up in front of a crowd and suggest that the citizens of Manhattan are morally superior to the residents of Possum Gulch, Ark." Maybe not, but Barack Obama would. I mean, already has.
54 posted on 10/02/2008 6:06:32 AM PDT by cookcounty (I sent my money for a Pit Bull in Lipstick , and I want immediate delivery!!!)
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To: xsmommy; cookcounty

Good observation.


55 posted on 10/02/2008 6:12:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: Kaslin
Is the author trying to defend elitism ?

I think McCain should use Obama's snide remark abut the common person being bitter, etc.
56 posted on 10/02/2008 6:16:18 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Kaslin
Joe Biden would never get up in front of a crowd and suggest that the citizens of Manhattan are morally superior to the residents of Possum Gulch, Ark.

I've heard such similar sentiments voiced by the Left regarding those who live in flyover country. The Left referred to this area as "Jesusland" the day after the 2004 election.

10 most liveable cities lists include PROXIMITY TO NYC among the requirements.

And of course there was Carville's crack about dragging a twenty dollar bill through a trailer park even though Paula Jones did not live in one.

And one more...

Democracy Alliance memo details Dem plan to "educate the idiots" and target minorities (October 1, 2008)

57 posted on 10/02/2008 6:21:33 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Kaslin

Seems like someone peed in Steve Chapman’s Wheaties.


58 posted on 10/02/2008 6:23:48 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Kaslin

ROTFLOL


59 posted on 10/02/2008 6:27:31 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Kaslin
Joe Biden would never get up in front of a crowd and suggest that the citizens of Manhattan are morally superior to the residents of Possum Gulch, Ark.

Maybe, maybe not. But Obama has asserted any number of times that limo liberals are superior to conservatives in every way. But of course, the liberal media wants us to forget that.

60 posted on 10/02/2008 6:31:25 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Kaslin

Palin was just fighting back and her message is resonating with the non big city (liberal voting ) types

The small towns and country types have been getting dumped on and been the butt of jokes by the Big City elites for decades And if the boob that wrote this article doesn’t know that it is because he is one of the elites


62 posted on 10/02/2008 6:36:05 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: RandytheAstonishing

That was seriesly clever! Welcome to FR, or welcome back, if you used to be somebody else!


63 posted on 10/02/2008 6:37:07 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: Kaslin
I know this much. I live in a small rural state and both our senators voted no on the bailout.
64 posted on 10/02/2008 6:58:37 AM PDT by Big Horn (I bac Mac)
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To: Diva

“Sounds like this guy is searching for an excuse to complain about Palin.”

The Republican establishment is looking for a way to blame the outsiders if this turkey goes down the tube. It can’t be the establishments fault or else they would have to take the blame for being in the minority. It would be interesting to compare the Southeastern Conference with the Ivy League in self-made millionaires, excluding those that work for daddy’s friends or inherit it in both conferences. I would bet on the SEC particularly in football.


65 posted on 10/02/2008 7:02:51 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (I think faster than I type, lousy proofreader, deal with it.)
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To: Tax-chick
"Joe Biden would never get up in front of a crowd and suggest that the citizens of Manhattan are morally superior to the residents of Possum Gulch, Ark."

Does this author already forget that Obama did precisely that, i.e., got up before a crowd in San Francisco and put down the "bitter" residents of small towns for "clinging to guns and religion"?

But the author has a point - TODAY's small towns are not at all immune from all sorts of vice. But perhaps one of the reasons for this is that they've been exposed to and corrupted by the decadent popular culture created by urban liberals.
66 posted on 10/02/2008 7:08:20 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: A Strict Constructionist
I would bet on the SEC particularly in football.

Living in Michigan I guess I should be a big ten fan but darn... I lived my youth in New Orleans and went to LSU so I am in total agreement with you!

67 posted on 10/02/2008 7:24:54 AM PDT by Diva
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To: Daniel Ramsey

Thank you for the insight into Sarah and what life is like there.


68 posted on 10/02/2008 7:48:10 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: rodeo-mamma

this whole country is becoming a moral sewer. Look at the abortion rates in this country-—well over twice as high as Western Europe. Look at the violent crime problems. We have kids bringing guns to school in order to kill as many classmates as possible. 13 year olds having kids, homeless people flooding our cities, teachers having sex with their students.... People making crystal meth in outhouses, everybody stepping over everybody to make as much money as they can. It makes my head spin.

Yet Americans are supposedly a devoutly Church going people. It sounds like alot people aren’t paying attention


69 posted on 10/02/2008 7:53:16 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: Kaslin
"but four out of every five Americans choose not to reside in rural areas"

Well, that's true if there are not the high paying jobs ( or jobs period ) within rural America; because States like mine are unfriendly to Big Business, so business is attracted to "another state or country (Ireland) more friendly". Infrastructure and access to easy access airports also come into play in attracting BB. Graduates are more often "pushed out" of a more rural state to make their living. A search for adventure is also expected at this "age of the game".

However:

Again, a specific "Age Group" comes into play, as many older Americans return to more rural areas "in population, closer to the cherished dreams and memories of their roots; etc, after having achieved success, and tired of a "subdivision" Orange Cty lifestyle mentality. Lifestyles often found not affordable; as Peter has been robbing to pay off Paul for so long, for this empty suit stressful kind of success..well we know, in most cases; all about what happens there.

Then there is "relaxation time or back to reality" residency; as I like to call it, which would show different numbers. Diane Feinstein, for example, may service her constituents in California; but where might you find her "out fishing"?, in the more rural state of Maine. I could name many other notable city mice joining their country brothers and sisters escaping to for vacations and even buying homes in these areas to "recharge"or retire. Log and timber homes offering that flavor of country living are now "the vacation home to build" if a celebrity or power broker. Tom Brokaw and wife own a rural restored barn free of most what most would expect to contain luxury amenities. Brokaw says he still "remains connected to the place that raised him". He and wife Meredith returned to South Dakota to celebrate their 40th Anniversay. Brokaw wrote in his memoir: A LONG WAY FROM HOME: Growing Up in the American Heartland- "As a man who could afford to celebrate this event anywhere he chose, it is fitting that he returned to his roots for this."

Remember back to the 1930's, the "grand old camps" of the Adirondacks were owned by great Industrialists. How often does one hear, "Go pack up the kids, Honey, we're going to the city for some R&R!

Even County music has become more popular than ever; with crossover rock/pop artists joining their ranks $$$, so can't get more "down-home" in message than that.

As far as the use of drugs and alcohol come into play, I guess you have to "define" rural: "Connecticut is burdened by the issues of alcohol and drug trafficking and abuse. According to the Alcohol Epidemiology Program of the University of Minnesota, substance abuse is one of the youth's problems in Connecticut. Alcohol specifically ranks as the most accessible to young people."

One State's rural might be another State's "suburb". One local police official told a friend, also educator, that it's not often he has to worry about trouble coming from kids living in our farm families. Many Hollywood hucksters, the Internet, celebrities, for example; can highlight and promote a "cool" and "edgy" lifestyles of living fast and playing hard.It's just more "redundant copy" by those oblivious to their own hypocrisy, more often placing the blame on Conservative leaders for "dividing Americans".

But all the "funded" studies in the world, and all the 60 minute-type investigative television newsmagazines will not take away the fact that most Americans still continue to live under the old "grass roots" teachings that grandmother would refer to as, "Use Your Head" or "Common Sense".

70 posted on 10/02/2008 7:56:48 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Kaslin

hahahaheheheheophohohohohohhahahahah!

The liberals snub her as being from a small town and laugh that makes her unqualified to be President. If there is any snobbery it is from the left. Fact is, she is not Ivy League and pro-life, so they hate her.


71 posted on 10/02/2008 7:58:35 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: bayliving; bray
Ping (Forgot on #70)
72 posted on 10/02/2008 7:59:58 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: hampdenkid

non-standard spelling of the word that means female dog.


73 posted on 10/02/2008 8:06:26 AM PDT by ichabod1 (You won't know communism is here until it puts a boot in your derriere.)
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To: littlehouse36

Well, the biggest difference between now and back in the day was that back then chances were that you’d never come home again. Today’s economic migrants (the legal ones) can hop a plane and be home for the holidays and never be further than a phone call. Most of the Indians (dot, not feather) that I know go home for a month out of the year.

Again, I think young people tend to want to leave small town America, to see the lights of Broadway, as it were, but then realize the city is no place to raise a child and want to move back home later. And there is nothing wrong with that.


74 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:53 AM PDT by ichabod1 (You won't know communism is here until it puts a boot in your derriere.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
But perhaps one of the reasons for this is that they've been exposed to and corrupted by the decadent popular culture created by urban liberals.

I'm sure that's an issue to some extent, especially when it comes to problems like theft. However, my grandparents had plenty to say about vice in small towns back in the "good old days." They were in the medical profession and saw it all.

75 posted on 10/02/2008 8:11:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: Kaslin

As someone who was born, raised, and has lived in big cities his entire life, I agree with Sarah. Just got back from visiting my girlfriend up at their family farm in central NY. Nothing but small towns around there. The people everywhere are some of the nicest, engaging, generous, and just real people I’ve ever met and have made me feel incredibly welcome. Meanwhile, I’ve lived in city apartment complexes with hundreds of people in close proximity, and I’ve never met my neighbors. That being said, I still like living in cities, but because of the conveniences they provide, not because of general populace.


76 posted on 10/02/2008 8:24:58 AM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: Kaslin
Mr. Chapman,

If country folks seem a little condescending towards the masses in the large urban areas it may be because of things like this. All people are created equal, and there are many fine conservatives in large urban areas, just as there are many detestable liberals in the country. However, there is a reason that a national elector map by county shows bright blue spots floating in vast seas of red. Comparing the politics of Iowa or Oklahoma with what they debate in Boston or San Fransisco only proves that the difference is real, great and most likely irreconcilable. I work in a first tier city. But I raise my family at the outer edges of the suburbs. There are valid reasons for that, and valid reasons for rural residents to be a little smug at times. Their brethren in the city certainly are.

77 posted on 10/02/2008 8:26:55 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: RandytheAstonishing

Brilliant and true.

I tell northerners I’m from Mississippi and the stereotypes are in full force. Never mind I am often better educated and traveled.

Many are bigots too arrogant to see their own bigotry.


78 posted on 10/02/2008 8:35:19 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Common sense and common decency are uncommon virtues among America's left.")
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To: Kaslin
"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty, sincerity and dignity," she declared, quoting the late journalist Westbrook Pegler. "They are the ones who do some of the hardest work in America, who grow our food, run our factories and fight our wars. They love their country, in good times and bad, and they're always proud of America." Not like those idle, insincere, lying city folks who dare to suggest that America can sometimes be wrong.

Are there no editors anymore?

If you are going to print a paragraph-length quote, the entire paragraph has to be that quote. You can't skip from the quote to something else without being clear about it.

Sarah Palin said absolutely nothing negative toward city folks during her RNC speech. To "paraphrase" her statement to say something it in no way said is just dishonest.

No one seemed to take offense, because no offense was given. The only person saying anything negative about City Folk is Steve Chapman, the lying little twit.

79 posted on 10/02/2008 8:59:01 AM PDT by gridlock (The Democrats have attacked Motherhood. If they attack Baseball and Apple Pie, we got it made!)
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To: RandytheAstonishing
The funny thing is that so many young folks from flyover country move to NYC and then denigrate They all come with a stupid smile on their face, which is their only redeeming quality.

In other words, all the better folks stayed back home.

80 posted on 10/02/2008 9:09:48 AM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: Kaslin

IDIOT ALERT

I lived along Palmer-Fishhook Road, which leads directly into the heart of Wasilla, Alaska. Wasilla is the ‘burbs. It has strip malls, a Wal-Mart, a little section of freeway. There are cute subdivisions with cute street names. One subdivision has streets named after trees; one subdivision has streets named after local animals. There are typical cops in typical cars. There are frontage roads. There are gas stations galore and quikee marts and that Alaska original, the drive-through espresso stand.

Sorry, Steve. I like your columns usually, but to equate Wasilla with Possum Gulch is just plain wrong. Wasilla is the Alaska equivalent of Levittown.

Just more stupid opinion from outsiders who don’t have a clue. I better get used to it if Palin is elected.


81 posted on 10/02/2008 9:29:04 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: Kaslin
The most urban states, New Jersey and California, do better than the average in out-of-wedlock births.

I'd be willing to bet that abortion is the reason for the difference in the big, anonymous cities.

82 posted on 10/02/2008 10:57:40 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: Clint Lippo

Kathleen Parker managed to get herself on MSNBC tonight. I guess her article was really an audition. MSNBC must be considering a position on their network for another fake conservative. They have that freak Joe and of course crazy Pat so Kathleen or Steve may have a real chance.


83 posted on 10/02/2008 4:31:55 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Kaslin

I'm not saying that I'm better than anybody else, but I'll be danged if I ain't just as good!

84 posted on 10/02/2008 4:38:10 PM PDT by rabidralph (Unleash your inner Palin.)
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To: Tax-chick

We know Obama would...


85 posted on 10/02/2008 4:41:55 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand up, Chuck)
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To: Kaslin
"... but four out of every five Americans choose not to reside in rural areas."

And the rest of us who used to live, now live or plan to again live in small towns are VERY grateful for that statistic.

86 posted on 10/02/2008 4:42:36 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Drill HERE! Drill NOW! MORE refineries! Pay LESS!)
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To: Kaslin
"Small town snobbery" is just a response to big city snobbery.

It's hardly snobbery at all, just sticking up for one's home and the "little people" and "flyover country."

People who don't live in small towns don't usually resent quotes like Pegler's.

Of course there's a tipping point in everything.

One day, urbanites who've taken it all in stride will look at each other and say, "Gee, these small town people think a lot of themselves. I wonder why."

And at some point even proud small town people may think the boosterism's gone too far.

But for most people that hasn't happened yet, and may never happen.

87 posted on 10/02/2008 4:51:13 PM PDT by x
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