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Buckley Scion Again: Treatment of the Illegitimate Kid (This Guy Is A Conservative?)
New York Post ^ | October 2, 2008 | DAREH GREGORIAN

Posted on 10/02/2008 6:09:15 AM PDT by publius1

NOT ONE 'BUCK'LEY FOR YOU! WILL'S WILL: GRANDSON, 8, DEAD TO ME

Before he died, William F. Buckley Jr. put his young grandson on the firing line.

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The National Review founder and notable New Yorker instead left his entire estate - estimated to be worth tens of millions of dollars - to his only child, Christopher Buckley, and Christopher's two older kids, Caitlin and William.

Jonathan, now 8, is the product of an Christopher's affair with book publicist Irina Woelfle.

Caitlin, 20, and William, 17, are the author and former presidential speechwriter's children with his now-estranged wife, Lucy.

Woelfle currently works as a publicist in Florida, where she filed suit against Christopher, seeking more child-support money.

Christopher, 56, author of the satiric novel "Thank You for Smoking," pays $3,000 a month. But Woelfle's petition says their son has special needs, and she's looking to put him into a private school near her Coral Gables home.

"The father is notably absent from the minor child's life," despite the mom's efforts to try to get him involved, the suit says.

The Courant estimated the value of William Buckley's estate at more than $30 million.

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In his original settlement agreement with Woelfle, Christopher did not want visitation rights. The deal prohibited Woelfle from contacting Christopher directly about Jonathan, and said all communication should go through their attorneys.

Christopher currently lives in Washington. It is unclear when his father, who died in February at age 82, wrote his will.

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What's surprising to me here is not William Buckley's actions, but his son, Christopher's. An illegitimate kid by a guy worth a fortune and he pays $3,000/month & requires no interaction with the kid--nice going! Whatta dork.

No wonder he's down on Palin & pro-Obama. Palin believes in taking responsibility. This kid Buckley believes in -- what? Nice words? Something less?

1 posted on 10/02/2008 6:09:16 AM PDT by publius1
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To: publius1

Oh come on. the son didn’t have that kind of money until his father died. Get real.


2 posted on 10/02/2008 6:12:05 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: publius1
IMHO the father was one of the great minds of the 20th century. Unfortunately that in itself doesn't necessarily impart any particular wisdom or virtue to the children.

Shame that.

3 posted on 10/02/2008 6:13:09 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: publius1

Whose business is this?


4 posted on 10/02/2008 6:13:48 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Satire - a heartbeat away from the truth!!!!)
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To: publius1

Wait until you see how little Hollywood celebs (east and west coast) are paying their kids (even “legitimates” from past marriages). And yes, some of them are “special needs” kids.

The press normally doesn’t air such dirty laundry about people like Regis Phelbin.


5 posted on 10/02/2008 6:14:42 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: sodpoodle

Nobody’s — you’re right — except that he put himself into the vice-presidential comment sweepstakes, & it makes me curious to know what kind of person he is. The answer seems to be, someone who will walk away.


6 posted on 10/02/2008 6:15:50 AM PDT by publius1 (Just to be clear: my position is no.)
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To: publius1

And we all know how Obama treats his brother.


7 posted on 10/02/2008 6:17:55 AM PDT by I still care (A thousand screaming Germans, some fake columns and swooning girly-men does not a campaign make.)
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To: publius1

Wow!!! A man leaves his estate to his son!!! Shock! Horror! IMHO, this article gives some hints that Christopher may be an ass, but no indication that WFB did anything wrong. (I had the honor of shaking WFB’s hand once, at WFB seniors’ estate. It was at an event called YAF 10)


8 posted on 10/02/2008 6:21:30 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: publius1
Buckley battles estranged bedfellow
9 posted on 10/02/2008 6:22:14 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: freekitty
Christopher Buckley has enough money to give more than 3k a month to support his child. What's more appalling are CB’s having cheated on his wife and then having refused to have any contact with his own child, who hadn't done anything wrong. Christopher Buckley is a spoiled man and reading about his father's will removes any mystery about how CB ended up spoiled.
10 posted on 10/02/2008 6:23:48 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: weegee

What you say is generally true.....unless it is about conservatives or republicans then all bets are off! Baby Buckley is a real jerk not taking responsibility for his own son, even if Daddy Warbuckley thought of the boy as not being part of the family. Has nothing to do being conservative, but a lot to do with being a man and a father to his own flesh and blood-even if the mother is a first class bi..h!


11 posted on 10/02/2008 6:24:13 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: publius1
Three thousand dollars a month is $36,000 a year, which is a sizeable hunk of change. Courts in this area usually award about one-third of pretax income as child support, and that sum is set by a computer, not by the vagaries of a judge's temperament. If Buckley is making a hundred grand a year, paying $36K in child support, and paying another third in income taxes, that does not leave him a lot to live on. So I don't think the payment is ungenerous.

The real question is, why does he not want to have any content with his son? That is what I find disgusting. Or I should say, I will consider it a shame and a wrong unless I learn of other mitigating facts.

12 posted on 10/02/2008 6:24:50 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: tcostell

Ronald Reagan’s children with Nancy are perfect examples of how far the apples can fall or is it roll away.


13 posted on 10/02/2008 6:28:44 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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To: bobsatwork
The article above was excerpted. This wasn't posted: Good grief. That's terrible.
14 posted on 10/02/2008 6:32:29 AM PDT by Artist
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To: tcostell

A lot of greats were sometimes even despicable in their personal lives.


16 posted on 10/02/2008 6:37:37 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: utahagen

I am so glad you are so informed.


17 posted on 10/02/2008 6:38:11 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Artist; ottbmare

I have always thought that William Buckley, while having a gift for words, was probably a terribly obnoxious, self-important and censorious person. This would certainly indicate that opinion to have at least some truth to it.

As for Christopher Buckley, I don’t think he even has the saving grace of being conservative. It’s true that child support cases are awful and bring out the worst in everybody, but it’s strange that Buckley doesn’t have any interest in being even slightly involved with the child. Less strange, however, when you read his father’s will and imagine being the son of the kind of person would have written that.


18 posted on 10/02/2008 6:42:07 AM PDT by livius
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To: publius1

A court set the current support based on the respective incomes. A recent court. In such courts the kid is first and a father is last.

WFB left his estate to his children and grand children as most do.

It then became an opportunity for the woman who acted in poor moral judgement in concieving the child to go after the guy that fathered the child with similar poor moral judgement.

Courts make adjustments in support for illegitiment childre as they do for children of divore, when incomes change. Chris buckley’s income will change and she is campaigning in advace of taking him back to court.

WFB would have left his som with the same problem if he left money to the child for the mother to control. Chris would still have a better income and get hauled to court.

Don’t get manipulated by hand wringing news reports. Thimk it through. It will be up to Chris in his estate to include the child or not.


19 posted on 10/02/2008 6:42:59 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Artist

Ouch. It’s clear WFB blamed the other woman for the break up of his son’s marriage. Christopher Buckly is a super talented guy in his own right and obviously the apple of his Dad’s eye right up until the end. It’s like he just wanted to pretend it never happened.


20 posted on 10/02/2008 6:43:31 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: publius1

Sometimes the sons of hard-working smart guys turn out to be real dorks. It has been a pattern throughout history.

His dad was great though - even when I disagreed with him, he was a good old growling tiger, right out of Jungle book - he could charm you right within reach of his claws, then WHAM!


21 posted on 10/02/2008 6:48:31 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Artist
I read the article. I disagree with you. First, every person has the right to will their estate to whomever they choose. Second, many Christians have major league problems with extra-marital affairs including any “love child”. Last, the phrase “deemed to have predeceased me” is a fairly common legal term used to exclude specific persons from inheritance. WFB didn’t invent it.
22 posted on 10/02/2008 6:55:24 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: bobsatwork
The child had no control over the circumstances of his birth. He is innocent, and being declared as good as dead by his pro-life, family values grandfather is just vile. BTW, here's WFB's "dead" grandchild for anyone else who's interested:


23 posted on 10/02/2008 7:07:58 AM PDT by Artist
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To: Artist

It sounds terrible but it’s really not. That’s just the language you use to disinherit a descendant. It doesn’t mean that “the kid was dead in his eyes”.


24 posted on 10/02/2008 7:13:22 AM PDT by spasi i sochrani
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To: spasi i sochrani

Tell that to the kid. He’ll never look at it that way.


25 posted on 10/02/2008 7:18:23 AM PDT by Artist
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To: geezerwheezer
"Baby Buckley is a real jerk not taking responsibility for his own son, even if Daddy Warbuckley thought of the boy as not being part of the family."

Uh, in case you missed it, the father already pays $3000 per month. That is sufficient to provide half of any child's upkeep. No, what we have here is an opportunistic bitch trying to glom onto part of WHB's money.

26 posted on 10/02/2008 7:31:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Artist
Please Google the phrase “deemed to have predeceased me”. I fully understand your revulsion at that phrase, but it is a common legal term. Used in a will it does not mean “as good as dead”, it means “excluded from inheritance”. WFB left the estate to Christopher, who gets to decide what to do next.
27 posted on 10/02/2008 7:34:50 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: bobsatwork
WFB left the estate to Christopher, who gets to decide what to do next.

According to the article, WFB:

He specifically excluded his youngest grandchild from his will. I don't care whether a common legal term was used to do it.

28 posted on 10/02/2008 7:55:32 AM PDT by Artist
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To: livius
I have always thought that William Buckley, while having a gift for words, was probably a terribly obnoxious, self-important and censorious person. This would certainly indicate that opinion to have at least some truth to it.

I don't know that we can draw that conclusion from this fiasco. People like Buckley do not write a will in a whimsical fashion; they put it together with the input of skilled attorneys, trust officers, investment advisors, etc. Everyone works on it. We do not know whether it was written more than eight years ago--that is, before the child was born.

But think of this: if a large sum of money had been left to the little boy, that money would immediately go into the control of his mother, who could then use it against Christopher Buckley. William Buckley would then in a sense be giving this woman ammunition to use against his own son. Would that make sense?

The course of wisdom would normally be to leave the money to Christopher and trust that Christopher would find the best way to take care of his son, presumably when the boy reaches 18 or 21, and Mom is no longer an issue. But giving money outright to very young children is rarely a good idea. The best thing for this child would be a trust to be administered by a disinterested person, perhaps the trust officer at the Buckleys' bank.

By all accounts this unfortunate child's mother is a grasping harpy. Until I hear otherwise I'll assume the best of both fathers, since our society is generally so anti-father.

29 posted on 10/02/2008 8:30:46 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: ottbmare
We do not know whether it was written more than eight years ago--that is, before the child was born.

WB specifically disinherited the child and said that he considered the "so-called" Jonathan to have predeceased him (in other words, WB regarded him as dead). How would you feel if your grandfather said that about you? And how would you feel, as this child's father, if your own father - your child's grandfather - had said that? No wonder CB is screwed up on this one.

30 posted on 10/02/2008 10:01:38 AM PDT by livius
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To: ottbmare

“The best thing for this child would be a trust to be administered by a disinterested person, perhaps the trust officer at the Buckleys’ bank.”

Why didn’t WFB go ahead and set up a trust for this grandchild that he would inherit when he was 25 or so? That would have been the decent thing to do.


31 posted on 10/02/2008 10:03:27 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Wonder Warthog

Ummm, $36,000 a year will get him a 1st class private school, and if deemed by the judge, it will take some more jack to help him. The fact remains that Junior has shirked his duty to his son, and just sending cash ain’t the answer, but only a small part of the total quotient of being a DAD !! We don’t need to know the whole story of this kid’s parents, and quite frankly I don’t care to, but to deny any child his birthright and his support as a father is to deny the child a happy and healthy childhood. Junior remains a jerk in my book.


32 posted on 10/02/2008 10:47:01 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: bobsatwork

Common legal term or not...with an estate valued at 30 million, a trust fund of 100k (for his college education) would be the proverbial drop in the bucket.

WFB was in the media...and should have been aware how ugly this would look to outsiders...but I always got such a sense of WFB being ‘better’ than the masses so I guess this keeps with his persona.

Lets hope the 3k will cover braces as well. WFB had awful (dare I say British) teeth. Don’t the uber riche believe in orthodontia?


33 posted on 10/02/2008 11:25:09 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (The 0bama Youth Choir, Making Joyous Noise Unto 0bama, From Whom All Glories Flow.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Common legal term or not...with an estate valued at 30 million, a trust fund of 100k (for his college education) would be the proverbial drop in the bucket.

Three thousand dollars a month for 18 (or 21?, or 25?) years is a lot more than $100K. The child support was set and agreed to based on Christopher Buckley's means at the time the agreement was reached. Subsequent to this time Christopher Buckley came into some more money because his father, Wm. Buckley, chose to bequeath it to him. What Chris Buckley now chooses to do with his money is his business. $3K per month is what was agreed to for the kid and that is that.

34 posted on 10/02/2008 12:03:30 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Artist

Cute kid. Supposing he turned out to be a better Buckley than his missing in action Dad. This is so sad.


35 posted on 10/02/2008 4:20:57 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: livius
WB specifically disinherited the child and said that he considered the "so-called" Jonathan to have predeceased him (in other words, WB regarded him as dead).

I did not know that, and I find it horrifying. It does change my view of WFB.

36 posted on 10/02/2008 6:16:37 PM PDT by ottbmare
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