45 Long Colt is a much better way to greet at the door.
Posted on 10/02/2008 9:25:50 PM PDT by llevrok
UPDATED 2:45 p.m. BLOOMINGTON -- A 22-year-old Normal man who was shot during an alleged break-in at a Bloomington apartment was charged Wednesday with one count of residential burglary.
Joshua A. McGuire appeared in front of Associate Judge Rebecca Foley in a wheelchair on Wednesday afternoon on the residential burglary charge. He must post $1,500 to be released from the McLean County jail.
McGuire was shot three times in the legs after allegedly breaking into a lower-level unit in an apartment house in the 400 block of West Chestnut Street about 10 p.m. Monday, police said.
The shooting happened after a 51-year-old resident of an upstairs unit in the building heard loud noises, apparently someone kicking in a door to the downstairs apartment, said police spokesman Duane Moss.
Moss said the 51-year-old, carrying a .22 caliber rifle, told police he demanded McGuire lay down on the ground after he saw him exiting the lower-level unit into a building common area. Maguire reportedly refused and reached for his waistband, prompting the man holding the gun to fear he was in danger of being shot, Moss said.
Moss said McGuire was shot twice in the left knee and once in the right, but he allegedly fled the scene. He was treated at BroMenn Regional Medical Center, Normal, which called police.
The shooter told police he saw that someone had kicked in two doors, an entrance to the building itself and the door to the lower-level unit.
No one was home in the lower-level unit when police arrived. Moss said the shooter and the 22-year-old did not know each other prior to the shooting.
The shooter has not been charged in the case, Moss said.
McGuire, who denied in court Wednesday that he stole anything, is due back in court for an arraignment Oct. 10.
Thank goodness. I hate it when abnormal men get shot.
I am SHOCKED! This is in Illinois!
1. get bigger gun
2. aim higher
Thats his story of what happened and I bet he's sticking to it.
2. aim higher
I gotta believe that the perp will feel some pain in his knees for a long time to come, reminding him that a career change is a very good idea.
He’s not Normal any more.
There are two illinois’... Chicago and the rest of the state basically. had this happened in Chicago, they would have charged the shooter with a crime and encouraged the criminal to sue for damages.
Two hits in the left knee and once in the right?
Took out both knees? Either this is poorly written or some interesting markmenship.
45 Long Colt is a much better way to greet at the door.
There’s no American SAAMI listing for long colt. The proper name is .45 Colt.
But you can buy certain brands with that name on the box.
No you can’t. Not from an American company. There is no American listing for anything other than .45 Colt, not on a box of cartridges or in a reloading manual.
Moss said the shooter and the 22-year-old did not know each other prior to the shooting.
Literally LOL!
Yours is also a recipe for avoiding a much more costly lawsuit (Wrongful Death vs. Intentional Bodily Injury). This occured in Illinois, the most litigenous state in the Union, so a suit is inevitable.
This is a shocking outrage. That poor kid probably kicked in that door because he thought that was where his Sunday School class ice cream social was being held, and that gun totin wannabe cowboy actually shot him!
That's pure BS! Jack Bauer wouldn't have used a .22 rifle.
He would have used his handgun with one shot to the forehead after he tortured him for a couple hours.......after going for 24 episodes without a bathroom break.
The cops didn't buy it...neither did Yahweh.
There was a black powder .45 Short cartridge made for the S&W top break .45 revolvers in the 1870s until around the turn of the century. The army bought several thousand of those because they were easier for mounted cavalry to reload on horse back than the Colt .45 revolvers. The short could be fired in the Colt revolvers but not vice versa.
LOL. At least you gotta give the guy an A for originality even if nobody bought it.
You're not kidding. Knees are a weak link in the skeletal structure at best, and if you get a few holes shot in them they could become more of a painful hindrance to getting around than a help.
Quite a few years ago I cut my knee to the bone right by the kneecap with a machete while clearing some brush, and after the doc sewed the tendons and other little white stringy things back together I was on my back in bed for about a week and then on crutches for another few weeks. This perp is in for some bad days if he was hit in the knee joint itself.
Yes, the torture would have been the knee caps first with a .22 and then a .45 between the eyes.
As for Jack's iron bladder, don't forget he never eats, takes fluids nor has his cell phone signal fade (can you hear me now? BANG! How about now? BANG BANG...)
You have most of your facts correct but not the names of the cartridges. There never was a .45 Long Colt plus there was never a .45 Short.
The proper names are .45 Colt and 45 Smith and Wesson. The 45 Smith and Wesson is also called the 45 S&W Schofield. The Army did not like the Schofield because all the cases were ejected whether they were fired or not. A friend bought a replica Schofield when they were first introduced. He sold it almost immediately because of all the problems he had with it. He didn’t elaborate on what problems he had.
The simultaneous ejection feature of the S&W probably seemed like a great improvement to Major Schofield, and he didn't anticipate the problem you mentioned. Actually some soldiers liked the Schofield because in a fight he could dump his empties and reload it quicker than the Colt, and if the Schofield cylinder still held a couple of live rounds and he wanted a full cylinder to meet the enemy he didn't care if he wasted a few live rounds. As you know the Colt hammer has to be put at half cock, the loading gate opened, the empties punched out with the ejector rod and live rounds pushed into the chambers while turning the cylinder with the other hand. In army trials the Schofield was fired, ejected, and reloaded in an average of 26 seconds, while it took almost twice that long to eject and reload the Colt.
The way I heard it, it was the bean counting brass in the army procurement dept who didn't like the Schofield because of having to inventory and supply two different rounds at a time when the army was severely underfunded. But that was partially solved later on by issuing only Schofield ammo to units in the field for use in both revolvers. I have seen articles in gun collector's magazines saying that a few Schofields were put back into service along with some Colt SAA revolvers during the Philippine insurrection. A fast reload and a large caliber round could be a life saver if a few drugged up Moros (fanatical Muslims BTW) were coming at you with spears and bolo knives.
Get thyself to the practice range.
All of that still leaves people to believe there’s a box of long colts on a shelf which is simply not true. SAAMI has long concluded ammunition can be confusing with older and nonexistant names being used by people who just don’t know any better.
Use the proper names so you can help more people to get into the sport without confusing them with unknown “expertise”.
I might as well add, there’s no American cartridge company that labels a box as .45 A.C.P.
There’s a reason he shot him in the knees and hands.
Makes it difficult to run off, OR use a weapon if he had one.
Obviously this guy was a crack shot. :)
Ah, but the perp was "breaking into a lower-level unit," and the shooter was probably a big believer in "an eye for an eye."
Now, if McGuire had been breaking into an upper-level unit....
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