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Joe Biden’s Alternate Universe [Hezbullah and Lebanon]
commentarymagazine ^ | Michael J. Totten

Posted on 10/03/2008 7:57:58 AM PDT by flyfree

In Thursday night’s vice presidential debate between Senator Joe Biden and Governor Sarah Palin, Biden said the strangest and most ill-informed thing I have ever heard about Lebanon in my life. . . . Nobody – nobody – has ever kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon. Not the United States. Nor France. Not Israel. And not the Lebanese. Nobody.

Joe Biden has literally no idea what he’s talking about.

It’s too bad debate moderator Gwen Ifill didn’t catch him and ask a follow up question: When did the United States and France kick Hezbollah out of Lebanon? . . .

Like many who watched the debate, I was bracing myself for Palin to say something off-putting about foreign policy. She’s the one who needed the crash course, allegedly; Biden is supposedly Mr. Foreign Policy. He’s supposed to be the experienced elder statesman Senator Barack Obama chose to help him govern and fill in some of his knowledge and experience gaps. He’s supposed to know far more about foreign policy than she does.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008debates; biden; hezbollah; lebanon; michaeljtotten; michaeltotten; totten
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To: savedbygrace

So The Empty Suit NEVER SAID ONE WORD ABOUT THE CRISIS IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY. POSUER!@


21 posted on 10/03/2008 8:36:30 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: allmendream

“First, Article one is the LEGISLATIVE branch not the executive. Everybody should understand that. Furthermore the role of the Vice President is mentioned in BOTH Article I (the Legislative) and Article II (Executive).”

Sub-average Joe didn’t have good grades in law school. I guess he didnt read his Constitution closely.

“What a tool.”

INDEED!


22 posted on 10/03/2008 8:47:29 AM PDT by WOSG (Change America needs: Dump the Pelosi Democrat Congress!!!)
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To: savedbygrace

“* How to support independent community-based-organizations to provide counseling and work-out services “

HE’S ASKING FOR MORE HANDOUTS TO ACORN!!!

How is that ‘warning of a crisis’ its more like begging for more handouts!

Another important point getting missed is this: Obama was in the Democrat majority Congress. If they really knew this was coming, their failure to act more appropriately and promptly should be laid at their feet.


23 posted on 10/03/2008 8:50:30 AM PDT by WOSG (Change America needs: Dump the Pelosi Democrat Congress!!!)
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To: AmericaUnited

That how I read the letter.

Man, these guys are bigger liars than the Clintons, and that is saying something.


24 posted on 10/03/2008 8:59:05 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: flyfree; All
Cross-referencing 2 Totten's articles on the theme: Obama and Biden have no idea what are they talking about in regards of Middle East and Afghanistan

Joe Biden’s Alternate Universe [Hezbullah and Lebanon]

The War Won’t End in Afghanistan [Michael Totten dismantles Obama and the Left's wishful thinking]

 

25 posted on 10/03/2008 9:07:15 AM PDT by Tolik (2008: Maverick/Barracuda vs. Messiah/Mouth or The Hero vs. the Zero and "Our mama beats your Obama")
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To: flyfree

NOW, NOW, NOW...THERE GOES JOE BIDEN LYING AGAIN.

26 posted on 10/03/2008 9:09:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: flyfree
I thought this was the weirdest statement of the debate by far.

I was hoping against hope that Palin would slam him on the NATO comment, along the lines of “So Senator, you think Iraq is the wrong war, but Lebanon would be the right one? Because we all know when you say NATO you really mean the USA.”

Alas, it didn't happen. I don't know if most Americans are informed enough to realize Biden, Obama’s Mr. Foreign Policy, is a fantasist and a buffoon. I can only hope that Rush will set them straight this morning.

27 posted on 10/03/2008 9:11:36 AM PDT by mojito
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To: flyfree

Biden is a B.Ser cra salesmen.

THE FACTS: Biden voted for 1999 deregulation that liberal groups are blaming for part of the financial crisis today. The law allowed Wall Street investment banks to create the kind of mortgage-related securities at the core of the problem now. The law was widely backed by Republicans as well as by Democratic President Clinton, who argues it has stopped the crisis today from being worse.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/debate_fact_check;_ylt=AlL2hRihI6TULmu1Sbv_Ev2s0NUE


28 posted on 10/03/2008 9:23:32 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: stocksthatgoup

[“Well Gwen, two years ago Barack Obama warned about the sub prime mortgage crisis” - Biden

Can anyone confirm this???]

It was just a letter. I’d like to see it produced.


29 posted on 10/03/2008 9:26:53 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: flyfree

Fresh from the McCain people.

JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES DURING THE DEBATE!

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.


NOW, NOW, NOW...THERE GOES JOE BIDEN LYING AGAIN.

30 posted on 10/03/2008 10:02:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: flyfree

I think Uncle Joe attributed several things to the Constitution last night that exist only in his fantasies.


31 posted on 10/03/2008 10:20:47 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: Red Badger; flyfree
Joe Biden has literally no idea what he’s talking about.

Never has, never will.............

For sure. But then, we're not really supposed to listen to him, we're just supposed to know he's right and to vote for him, like much of the DU.

32 posted on 10/03/2008 12:29:54 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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