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Obama Is Using CAIR Lawyer to Defend Him in the Berg Lawsuit
Yid with Lid via Hillary Clinton Forum ^ | 10-2-08 | Yid with Lid

Posted on 10/03/2008 12:20:34 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary

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To: milford421; LibertyRocks; Calpernia; Velveeta

See post 21


51 posted on 10/06/2008 2:21:02 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Myrddin; nw_arizona_granny; LucyT

Andy Martin, bump!

We had him as our guest speaker about 2 weeks ago.

He went over this entire money laundering scheme with Blackwell.

‘SMOKING GUN’ PROMPTS ANDY MARTIN TO SAY OBAMA SHOULD WITHDRAW AS PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE

(NEW YORK)(April 27, 2008) The disclosure today in the Los Angeles Times that Barack Obama laundered money through a law firm to conceal the source of his income while an Illinois state senator is the ‘smoking gun’ that is going to doom his candidacy. www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killerspin27apr27, ..

Barack Obama should withdraw as a presidential candidate. Immediately. The latest evidence of his professional corruption is going to doom the Democratic Party.

Although the L. A. Times’ reporters have tried to present Obama’s crooked deal in a fair and balanced way, there is no way you can avoid the conclusion that the substance of the transaction was intended to conceal that Obama was engaging in political money laundering to disguise the source of his income. Obama is exposed as just another corrupt African-American legislator in Illinois cutting deals for other African-Americans. Is it any wonder he became the protégé of sleazy Senator Emil Jones in the Illinois senate?

Why was Obama’s Blackwell deal ‘money laundering?’ The L. A. Times story is not clear on that point. Laundering was involved because Obama used ‘disclosure’ to conceal the source of his income while a public official. Obama’s game also exposes that in Illinois even good government types, such as Cynthia Canary, can be corrupted. Canary tries to whitewash something that she would strongly condemn if the practice had been engaged in by any other legislator. In other words, Obama has even managed to corrupt Canary and the integrity of her organization. It’s disgusting.

Obama’s ‘client,’ Robert Blackwell, Jr. was also an operative in the machinations of crooked Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich, www.eki-consulting.com/APPS/EKIHP1.nsf/Content/BE14CC6D3CE402558 ..

The Times details how Obama was still ‘of counsel’ to his former law firm, but that he was not providing any services to that entity. Then Obama made a deal with Blackwell, and wanted to conceal that Blackwell was supporting him. So Obama ‘laundered’ the ‘legal fees’ by running them through the law firm and then issuing a list of the law firm’s clients-none of which had anything to do with Obama—to disguise the Blackwell money in a laundry list of hundreds of unrelated ‘clients.’ This was a classic case of money laundering and business fraud. Obama wanted to conceal the large sum he was receiving from Blackwell, so he concealed that Blackwell was the source of his income by pretending he was providing services to the law firm’s other clients. Utter fraud. ‘Barry O’ ain’t stupid, he’s slicky and tricky, and he’s a ticking time bomb for the Democratic Party.

Since the law firm had nothing to do with Blackwell, and was merely acting as a conduit for legal fees for Obama, this example shows that Obama was nothing but just another crooked Illinois politician.

Obama’s ‘law firm’ was also guilty of professional misconduct, because the lawyers knew that Obama had not provided services through the law firm, and was merely using the firm to obscure the fact that the major source of his personal income was one client on whose behalf Obama was later to advocate (there may have been earlier informal advocacy than the senate letter which has surfaced).

Time and time again, Obama’s law firm stands guilty of being exposed for sleazy professional tactics and gross conflicts of interest. Obama’s law firm was nothing more than a college of corruption for money laundering, conflicts of interests and other inappropriate professional behavior; and a collection of crooked lawyers that were stealing and concealing at every opportunity. Is it any wonder that honest lawyers get a bad name when crooked operatives such as Obama play games and use the law to conceal the source of their income?

Since the law firm had no relationship with Blackwell, running Obama’s fees through the firm was false and fraudulent. Since Obama had nothing to do with the law firm’s other clients, using a list of hundreds of unrelated clients to obscure that only one of those “clients” was paying him money was federal criminal mail fraud as well as a corruption of the ethics rules in Illinois. That Cynthia Canary tries to whitewash such blatant corruption shows that she has lost all sense of ethics and legitimacy when Obama is the one stealing the money. What’s her link?

Finally, the L. A. Times article leaves unanswered the big question: what legal work did Obama do to earn $112,000? He has never disclosed that he was working half-time for Blackwell, and there is no paper trail or track record of Obama having ever done any legal services to earn such a substantial sum. Before today, no one knew of the massive Blackwell-Obama connection. So where is the evidence of providing legal services to earn the money? I am going to be asking for an FBI investigation later this week.

Barry ‘Barack’ Obama: just one more crooked Illinois politician. He’s a disgrace to the good, honest hard working people of Illinois.

Four years ago I disclosed that Obama was a fraud artist. I didn’t know at the time just how true my conclusions were, or how expansive and extensive Obama’s corruption really was. A big thanks to the L. A. Times for providing the ‘smoking gun’ to document just how utterly sleazy Barack Obama has been in his professional life.

Obama should immediately withdraw as a presidential candidate. The ‘honest graft’ that Obama engineered with Robert Blackwell, Jr. is going to doom the Democratic Party in November. Any delegate, pledged, super or otherwise, who supports Obama for president after disclosure of the Barnhill/Blackwell caper, has a death wish for the Democrats in November.

[Note: this column has focused on the crass political corruption Obama engineered to conceal the source of his income, and the way ‘good government’ types such as Cynthia Canary are providing ‘cover’ for Obama’s corruption. The fact that Obama used his senate letterhead to gain money for his client is just one more angle of the same slimy story. Using his senate office for his client is self-evident; the use of a professional firm to launder and conceal that his major source of income was only one person, Blackwell, is not so obvious, which is why this column has concentrated on that aspect of the L. A. Times’ revelations. The ‘senate letterhead’ aspects, however, are no less important for what they reveal about Obama’s “play to play’ operations in Illinois politics.] Obama was just an African-American Tony Rezko. Is it any wonder the two were so close for decades?]

And is it any wonder that Barack Obama is now afraid to debate, given the latest sleaze cascading out of his past?

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Chicago’s Number One Internet columnist, broadcaster and media critic, Andy Martin, is the Executive Editor and publisher of www.ContrarianCommentary.com. © Copyright by Andy Martin 2008. Martin covers regional, national and world events with more than forty years of experience. He is a chronicler of all things Midwestern and the authentic Voice of Middle America. He holds a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Illinois College of Law. He has been a candidate for U. S. Senator from Illinois. www.AndyforUSSenator.com. Comments? E-mail: AndyMart20@aol.com. Media contact: (866) 706-2639. Columns also posted at ContrarianCommentary.blogspot.com; contrariancommentary.wordpress.com.


52 posted on 10/06/2008 3:47:56 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Myrddin; nw_arizona_granny

They let their law licenses lapse? (say that 3 times fast).

How did you find this out?

Thanks granny.


53 posted on 10/06/2008 4:02:56 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: milford421

Posts 44 and 52


54 posted on 10/06/2008 4:19:36 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks very much.
Bump 21, 44, 52


55 posted on 10/06/2008 5:45:02 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Calpernia
Thanks for ping. That does a nice job of explaining the details of the laundering issue.
56 posted on 10/06/2008 8:31:43 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin; nw_arizona_granny

Myrddin, I don’t see any information regarding Michelle Obama laundering money. I’m immensely curious as to why Michelle’s law license was inactivated in 1993. She passed the bar in 1989 and by 1993 she was no longer licensed to practice.

There’s not much information out there about this at all. In fact, even Wikipedia is lacking the information and refers to her as a lawyer.


57 posted on 10/06/2008 9:16:48 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
I spent time over the weekend trying to track down the laundering and law license issues with Barry and Michelle. It appears Michelle saw a better income opportunity than practicing law. There was once a link to the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission reference at this link. It appears a little "laundering" of historical information has been performed to keep this out of the public view. More background on Michelle here.
58 posted on 10/06/2008 10:01:46 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Calpernia; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; FARS; ...

Thanks, Calpernia.

Pinging to Calpernia’s comment #52.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2096874/posts?page=52#52


59 posted on 10/06/2008 10:26:34 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Myrddin
No doubt the web has been scrubbed. I can see anyone taking a better income opportunity, but it's rare for one to have gone to law school and then give up their license after a few years.

She was only at Sidley Austin until 1991. Then she latched onto Valerie Jarrett (huge Chicago Machine bigwig) who's now prominent on Obama’s campaign. By 1993, another job change to head up “Public Allies Chicago” and she's no longer licensed to practice law.

I'm totally intrigued.

60 posted on 10/06/2008 10:29:40 AM PDT by Velveeta
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thanks LucyT.

Not pingin’ anyone, because I really do want to get offline, NOW. ;’)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2096874/posts?page=52#52


61 posted on 10/06/2008 11:10:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Velveeta
Public Allies commentary.
62 posted on 10/06/2008 11:38:48 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Thanks, Myrddin. We have Weathermen redux with Obama and crew.

FYI, here in Chicago - word is that if Obama wins the presidency then Chicago gets the Olympics.

$$$$change$$$$

Follow the money. Olympics are big bucks for Chicago.

The Chicago Olympic Committee powers that be and Obama powers that be - are one and the same.


63 posted on 10/06/2008 11:44:50 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
As if Chicago is prepared to bear the tax burden of sponsoring the Olympics. Every time I visit the city, the politicians are dreaming up another tax. Invariably, Olympics are bad news for taxpayers. If you're very lucky, some of the vestiges will have value after the closing ceremony.
64 posted on 10/06/2008 11:57:02 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: potlatch

65 posted on 10/06/2008 12:55:48 PM PDT by devolve ( ________never get between a hogleg and a target________)
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To: LucyT

Thanks Bump


66 posted on 10/06/2008 1:21:11 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: devolve

Good post!


67 posted on 10/06/2008 1:21:45 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: Anti-Hillary

Interesting that Obama has brought a high-powered DISTRACTOR MASTER to the fight......can’t win on merits???


68 posted on 10/06/2008 1:31:15 PM PDT by cookcounty (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Tim McVeigh is competence.)
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To: gunnyg
""Obama's grandmother on his father's side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya."

--Holey Moley!!!!

69 posted on 10/06/2008 1:38:09 PM PDT by cookcounty (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Tim McVeigh is competence.)
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To: Myrddin

wow


70 posted on 10/06/2008 1:41:46 PM PDT by petercooper (IQ tests for all voters!)
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To: gunnyg

wow


71 posted on 10/06/2008 2:02:21 PM PDT by petercooper (IQ tests for all voters!)
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To: Anti-Hillary
FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN

Author sees Islam's 20-year plan for U.S.

Arab-American author outlines secret


20-year strategy to undermine country

Posted: August 04, 2003
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com
Editor's note: Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin is an online, subscription intelligence news service from the creator of WorldNetDaily.com – a journalist who has been developing sources around the world for the last 25 years.

A refugee from the Muslim Middle East thinks he has discovered Islam's 20-point plan for conquering the United States by 2020 – a plan revealed in the latest issue of Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. Anis Shorrosh, author of ''Islam Revealed'' and ''The True Furqan,'' is a Christian Arab-American who emigrated from Arab-controlled Jerusalem in January 1967.

''The following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020,'' Shorrosh says. ''Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?''

1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ''Abed.''

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America – black gold. America’s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran'' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via: br> Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).

Use no birth control whatsoever – every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.

Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years – since one can't legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.

Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only a few ''sleeper cells'' have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil.

10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1,500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are currently 300 exclusively Muslim schools in the U.S. which teach loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution. In January of 2002, Saudi Arabia’s Embassy in Washington mailed 4,500 packets of the Quran and videos promoting Islam to America's high schools – free of charge. Saudi Arabia would not allow the U.S. to reciprocate.

11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish ''Centers for Islamic studies'' with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education institutions.

12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.

13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

14. Nullify America's sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans with reports of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls.

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not America's justice system.

16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S., but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

17. Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting freshman take at least one course on Islam.

18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media.

19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.

20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America.

Shorrosh is a member of the Oxford Society of Scholars, has traveled in 76 countries, and is a lecturer and producer of TV documentaries. ''Islam Revealed'' is a bestseller now in its eighth printing. His forthcoming 10th book, from which the 20-point plan is abridged, is titled ''Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.''

''The True Furqan'' is also available for viewing on Islam-Exposed.org. Shorrosh's new website is Focusing-on-Islam.com.
72 posted on 10/06/2008 2:25:29 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: potlatch

Thankspotlatch!

73 posted on 10/06/2008 2:48:20 PM PDT by devolve ( ________never get between a hogleg and a target________)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

How about hanging out with this guy??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ

How about Obama openly campaigning for his communist cousin Odinga who signed a pact with Muslims to enact Sharia Law if elected and started riots when he lost. Obama campaigned for an openly Anti-American candidate in a foreign country in 2006.


74 posted on 10/06/2008 2:53:07 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: devolve

Pretty, thank you devolve.


75 posted on 10/06/2008 3:13:45 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: potlatch

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Yer welcome!


76 posted on 10/06/2008 4:51:36 PM PDT by devolve ( ________never get between a hogleg and a target________)
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To: texas_mrs; LucyT

Earlier today I was gathering up some of the links to send on to Andy Martin and when I went to one particular bookmark I got a message “Article not found”. The article appeared in a Dubai newspaper AND has never appeared in any media in North America. I had to do a search for the article and I hope someone can save it or do something so it doesn’t disappear again like so many other articles have in the past few months! Here is the link:

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20080904/LIFE/733109695

From a headline appearing on the link originally posted for this article the paper in Dubai is warning people to be very afraid of Sarah Palin!


77 posted on 10/06/2008 7:01:49 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: texas_mrs; LucyT

Oops must be Monday forgot to include the title of one of the most read articles for today for that Dubai paper:

Listen to what Sarah Palin is saying – and then be afraid


78 posted on 10/06/2008 7:06:11 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer; Calpernia; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; ...

Thank you, Chief Engineer, quite a find.

Ping.

Daubi, UAE
The National

Listen to what Sarah Palin is saying – and then be afraid
By James Zogby

[Dr James J Zogby is president of the Arab American Institute.]

Last Updated: October 05. 2008 9:55PM UAE / GMT

[snip]

Mrs Palin’s recitation of her lessons revealed a raw and unfiltered neo-conservative view of the world. It is, at times, banal and oversimplified; but it is also, in many ways, perfectly clear.

It is absolutist and Manichean. There is good (“us”) and evil (“them”). “We” stand for democracy and the “spirit of freedom that is found in every human heart”. Since the clash between good and evil is both desirable and inevitable, “our” role is to bring “our values” to a waiting world and defeat evil. And, in this conflict, “our” victory is preordained.

Compromise with evil is unthinkable and so traditional forms of diplomacy are to be rejected as a sign of weakness and surrender. In this world view, diplomacy means working with those who agree with us, not finding ways to bridge differences with those with whom we disagree.

Simple? Yes, but also dangerous. This was the world-view embraced by the current administration, especially during its first term. (It is the consequences of this disastrous course that the Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, has worked diligently, if unsuccessfully, to correct.)

And, despite its many failures, it appears that this hard-line neocon course is embraced by Governor Palin’s running mate and his advisers.

[snip]

This is why I say that it is important to listen to what she does say, not how badly she says it. And don’t make fun: be afraid.

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20081005/OPINION/175974302/0/NEWS

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Long article; archived on the long thread, too.

Daubi, UAE
The National

Young blood
Toby Harnden [The Daily Telegraph / 2008]

Last Updated: September 04. 2008 4:22PM UAE / GMT

As the sun sank over the Pacific Ocean behind him, Frank Marshall Davis looked up from his rickety front porch and saw his friend Stanley Dunham approaching.

[snip]

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20080904/LIFE/733109695


79 posted on 10/06/2008 9:10:38 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

“We” stand for democracy and the “spirit of freedom that is found in every human heart”. Since the clash between good and evil is both desirable and inevitable, “our” role is to bring “our values” to a waiting world and defeat evil. And, in this conflict, “our” victory is preordained.

Gosh. Zogby says that like it’s a BAD thing...


80 posted on 10/06/2008 9:14:23 PM PDT by null and void (Surely we can print money faster than they can - this is AMERICA!)
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To: LucyT

Please make sure you save both articles with C&P or as a screen capture or they will very quickly disappear! After the weekend of many dead ends believe me the scrubbing is ongoing and with an old, slow small hard drive on this laptop I haven’t got the ability to save and no ink at the moment to print out!


81 posted on 10/06/2008 9:34:44 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; ...

POsted on AntiMullah on Sunday and has the source Email

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-not-moslem-his-cair-lawyer.html


82 posted on 10/06/2008 10:06:57 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

CNN Did A Major Ayers Investigation — Proves Little Messiah A Big Liar
CNN - Youtube ^ | 10-06-08 | DHarry

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2099250/posts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ


83 posted on 10/06/2008 10:14:04 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: FARS

BTTT


84 posted on 10/06/2008 10:14:37 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Anti-Hillary

DNC JOINS OBAMA TO BLOCK BERG SUIT By Jon Christian Ryter(This article is a rewrite of last week’s article on Philip J. Berg’s lawsuit to force Barack Obama….)
October 7, 2008

By Jon Christian Ryter

October 7, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

Author’s Note: This article is a rewrite of last week’s article on Philip J. Berg’s lawsuit to force Barack Obama to produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate. On Sept. 24 the DNC filed a motion to dismiss the Berg action, which sent Berg scrambling to file a response, which was filed on Sept. 29, providing the date and material which led to my confusion that the order had been signed. Accept my mea culpas. The moment I realized the error I called News With Views and had the article pulled, and posted a recant on my website as well. Here is the most current information on the case, taken from court documents. — Jon Christian Ryter

Read the rest of this entry »

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/dnc-joins-obama-to-block-berg-suit-by-jon-christian-ryterthis-article-is-a-rewrite-of-last-weeks-article-on-philip-j-bergs-lawsuit-to-force-barack-obama/


85 posted on 10/07/2008 5:29:02 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: FARS

BUMP!


86 posted on 10/07/2008 7:39:23 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

This continues to get buried with other things until Palin and McCain say it during press coverage and keep saying it. Another “Form 180” issue for the Dem nominee.


87 posted on 10/07/2008 8:40:25 AM PDT by sappy
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To: LucyT; DAVEY CROCKETT; LibertyRocks; milford421

Thank you for the ping, an excellent article.


88 posted on 10/07/2008 11:22:11 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


89 posted on 10/07/2008 12:50:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

..................Doesn’t someone have to produce a valid birth
certificate to acquire a US passport? “
NO

Absolutely yes! For my first passport about 30 years ago, I had to visit the Queens Co NY vital records dept, wait around, wait around, wait around, until the shuffling employee produced a duplicate copy of my Birth Cert.

Then I had to present that to the Passport officials, and wait around, and wait around, and wait around, until I finally got a passport.

Maybe it’s easier now. Maybe if you speak broken English and show up wearing a shirt and shoes, you’re deemed passport material!


90 posted on 10/08/2008 5:42:43 PM PDT by aShepard (Loose lips Sink ships)
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To: aShepard
Do not call someone a liar based on your short
and dumb information.

I will bet your first Passport was blue and
not green.

I did not have to have a birth certificate
when I got mine over 40 years ago.
I did have several ID proofs but I have
never had a BC.
I went through the Army and school without one
and I did have to get people to swear they
knew me all my life to get my passport with.

Some people born in the thirties or earlier
were born at home and not put into the system.

91 posted on 10/08/2008 6:09:39 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama and ITS thugs are made paranoid by Sarahnoia. (stole from molly_jack2007))
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

You Said.....

“Do not call someone a liar based on your short
and dumb information.
I will bet your first Passport was blue and
not green.
______________________________
When I said that getting a passport was a serious pain in the A$$................
_______________________________
Another Freeper recently posted:

“”I had to personally go to a NYC hospital archives for them to drag up a copy of my birth certificate before applying for a passport””!
________________________________
So before you call me a “dumb, and possibly a liar”.....
Just stuff-it!

I’ll take an apology anytime that you’re up to it!

(BTY, it was Green)


92 posted on 10/10/2008 8:38:44 PM PDT by aShepard (Loose lips Sink ships)
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To: Anti-Hillary

News Update:

RUSH IS DISCUSSING THE Mysterious BIRTH CERTIFICATE issue right now.

Kenya, Berg, granny, dual-citizenship, etc. all mentioned.

Cats out of the bag.........


93 posted on 10/23/2008 9:35:04 AM PDT by Gemsbok (Fight voter FRAUD (Acorn)(Obama) and be a poll worker or observer: Beat them at their own game!)
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To: TommyDale

I’ve been saying it for a year to anyone who would listen. They think I am a tinfoil candidate. But, if you look at Ayers manifesto “Prairie Fire”:

“We are a guerrilla organization. We are communist women and men, underground in the United States for more than four years. We are deeply affected by the historic events of our time in the struggle against U.S. imperialism.
Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from the inside.


94 posted on 10/23/2008 9:51:58 AM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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