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Demsí Split over Obama Not About Race and Sour Grapes
Pajamas Media ^ | October 4, 2008 | Kyle-Anne Shiver

Posted on 10/04/2008 6:47:19 AM PDT by george76

More relevant are the baroque delegate rules and strong-arm tactics that helped him to victory.

A recent Associated Press story glibly proclaimed that “deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House.” The story relied on an AP-Yahoo poll that posed questions regarding race to white Democrats.

One is left to wonder why questions regarding race were not posed to black Democrats ...

It’s quite troubling, really, that mainstream media outlets are focusing upon “racial misgivings” factors, while all but ignoring the major divides among voting constituencies that occurred during the nominating contest between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. These rifts revolved much more around exactly how Barack Obama received the Democratic nomination than any sort of racial divide or even sour grapes.

In fact, there are dozens of voter groups which claim outright that Barack Obama’s nomination was garnered illegitimately and with decidedly undemocratic methods. These are the PUMA people, the NoBama folks, the caucus-fraud investigators, and a whole lot of others who fervently believe that Barack Obama is not the legitimate nominee of the Democratic Party electorate, but the nominee of the party elite and caucus strong-arm tactics.

Howard Dean and his minions who control the Democratic Party apparatus should examine the methods used by Obama to grab the nomination and his manipulation of the caucus system, and take a long, serious look inward to see if their party still deserves the adjective “democratic.”

In the Democratic nominating contest, some votes count more than others.

Hillary’s white-woman status hurt her. If she had been a black woman, she might have held the vast majority of black female voters, which would have probably given her the nomination.

As the contest continued, however, black women voted their race, not their gender.

(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; barackobama; clinton; dean; democrats; demprimary; hillary; hillaryclinton; howarddean; nobama08; obama; obamatruthfile; puma

1 posted on 10/04/2008 6:47:19 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Meanwhile, the real story, indoctrination of US youth, continues.


2 posted on 10/04/2008 6:52:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: george76

I never knew the dems gave loyal districts more delegates. When did this begin?

Definitely favors a black candidate. Truly an affirmative action nominee.


3 posted on 10/04/2008 7:10:04 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: george76
The big issue is on page 2 of the article - the charge that the Obama supporters won the caucus states by bullying the Hillary supporters. If that's true, Obama could expect to have more trouble winning those states in a secret ballot general election.

For that matter, Obama disproportionately got his delegates from states the Republicans would be expected to win in the general election . . . just as McCain got some of his delegates with crossover Democratic votes. Tends to make this a "purple" election.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 7:24:38 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: george76
Howard Dean and his minions who control the Democratic Party apparatus should examine the methods used by Obama to grab the nomination and his manipulation of the caucus system, and take a long, serious look inward to see if their party still deserves the adjective “democratic.”

Delusional writer.

Howard Dean is the radical who architected the Democrat's undemocratic nominating system and rebuffed Hillary's legitimate objections in order to nominate his brother Marxist.

5 posted on 10/04/2008 7:24:53 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: george76

How did they know that they were only polling white Democrats?

Surely they didn’t ‘profile’ first, did they?


6 posted on 10/04/2008 7:35:54 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed the Republicans with stupid political enemies.)
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As a result of my fairly popular AUDACITY OF TRUTH and my SARAH PALIN TRUMPS OBAMA_BIDEN sites, I have spoken to many democrats via email, on forums, and some even by phone. Most of them are rather moderate, but some of them fairly staunch. A surprising number are not supporting Obama.

Why?

Not because "he is black".

Here, let me list the reasons I have been given via email and on forums such as the PUMA sites and others.

My experiences may not be "scientific" from a polling or demographic standpoint... but I question some of the so-called scientific polls that (when you push into their supporting data) use a fairly large disproportionate number of democrats vs republicans...and then when Obama is winning by 2-5% the results are trumpeted as some kind of "break through" for him.

Anyhow, based on my own experiences with people from all over the nation via my sites, I believe that McCain-Palin are very well situated to win, and potentially win bigger than the MSM, the pundits, and the DNC imagine.

...or, more likely, they do see it in their internal data and they fear it.


THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


WHO IS TIED DIRECTLY TO THE CAUSES OF THE ECONOMIC CRISIS




BUT SARAH PALIN ON THE TICKET TRUMPS OBAMA-BIDEN



LOOK, THERE"S SARAH "HIDING" FROM THE MSM!



SARAH WILL APPLY HER MOOSE HUNTING SKILLS TO THE JACK-ASS HUNT IN WASHINGTON, DC


VOTE SARAH AND NOBAMA MOVEMENT SWEEPS THE COUNTRY

7 posted on 10/04/2008 7:48:39 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: george76
From the article:

One Democratic primary voter with a strong background in mathematics, Dr. Lynette Long, has launched a probe into the lopsided caucus victories of Barack Obama, which indeed garnered the nomination. Her conclusion? "I’ve spent the past two months immersed in data from the 2008 Democratic caucuses. After studying the procedures and results from all fourteen caucus states, interviewing dozens of witnesses, and reviewing hundreds of personal stories, my conclusion is that the Obama campaign willfully and intentionally defrauded the American public by systematically undermining the caucus process."

The data compiled by Dr. Long, along with the video-recorded testimonials of dozens of caucus-goers, are indeed convincing. According to Dr. Long, in a personal interview, reports from caucus attendees are pretty horrifying at worst, wholly undemocratic at best. Female Clinton supporters reported being called “c**ts” and other sexual epithets, being spat upon by Obama supporters, being threatened physically, and an overall environment of hostility. Not exactly the democratic process to which we are accustomed.

These are the Alinsky/Bolshevik tactics that Obamaniacs used to intimidate caucus voters -- bullying them into fear of voting against the Black guy. And this is proof of why the secret ballot is essential to honest voting. Obama's strong-arm tactics won him every caucus state except Nevada, while Hillary! won almost all of the major secret ballot states and the overall popular vote. One is left to ponder the number of caucus votes that Obama received under duress.

It should therefore be no surprise that Obama wants to end secret balloting in union elections. Under his system, workers could no longer vote their consciences in safe anonymity. Instead, workers and their families would have to face open intimidation and threats from pro-union thugs before, during and long after casting their public votes. Welcome to Obama's brave new world of "Freedom."

8 posted on 10/04/2008 9:06:06 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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