Skip to comments.DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild
The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.
As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.
Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away instead of just providing the documents the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.
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I'd donate $100. It's that important.
No, because those that voted for a candidate who was ineligible should get to cast a vote for the eligible person of their choice. I doubt it would be handed over to McCain. This would be a HUGE court battle and since there is no precedent I could only imagine the chaos.
That's part of the point here (I think). Barry has both Indonesian and American citizenship, doesn't he? Not trying to cloud the waters... honest.
“As much as I would love to be proven wrong, I dont think that this dog is gonna hunt. You dont think that Hillary would have outed him before the Convention if there was any way?”
It was impossible for her to play this card. Civil war would have broken out within the Dimm Party (half of them- blacks, nutroots, card carrying reds- wouldn’t care if his birth certificate showed his real name to be “Rat Commie B*stard, Jr.”) They would still want “change they could believe in.”
The nationally televised melt-down in Denver would destroy the DNC’s chances in November and would have ruptured relations between the party and their most loyal constituency (blacks) for years to come. Hillary would take the blame and wouldn’t have a chance in 2012. Her hands were effectively tied on this issue.
“The sheeple already know the guy is named Barack Hussein Obama....and that isn’t causing them problems.”
But not enough of them know how blatant a deceiver Obama is. And if only a small percent of the electorate—enough of the swing voters— becomes informed of this, Obama will be defeated.
But at 21 did he have to choose?
Nope. He's the Messiah, remember? :)
Hussein (Mohammed)-boy was NOT born by an American couple!!!
has anyone actually read Berg’s action? Apparently “the one” has relatives who say he was born in Kenya.
His mother died in 1995? Maybe she had the long form birth certificate and her passport, but they were discarded by accident (it happens!). Is the hospital in Hawaii supposed to have a copy of the long form? Which hospital?
I understand Hannnity is doing a special on Obama’s “associates” Sunday night.
No... from a constitutional stand point, I am almost positive that the VP (Biden) would take over... good news is that after that revelation, there would be no way a Dem could win in 2012
“If Berg can back up his claims with hard facts, why not put a TV ad out,buy a full-page ad in the paper,scream it from the rooftops?”
Maybe he will...
If Illinois has the responsibility, we’re doomed. Mayor Daley’s mob has things tightly wrapped up for Obama.
Yes but ineligible to run for president.
there is a difference between citizenship and elegibiltiy
“Obama’s grandmother on his Father’s side, half brother and half sister claim he was born in Kenya.... Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama’s Mother) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama’s birth”.
She already did, through Philip Berg, an avid Clintooon supporter!!!
I am in for 10 and I don’t have much money! But what does it say if Americans vote for Obama to become President? Comments everyone.
“Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”
So that means that Biden would ACT as President “until a President shall have qualified.”
So does that mean that the Congress will then get to pick who shall ACT as a President, or pick a President, or pick a process by which a President is chosen?
I honestly don’t believe that the Constitution was designed to ever deal with a quagmire situation like that. It very specifically lays out the qualifications to run for office, and the writers of the Constitution very likely assumed that potential candidates would have the integrity to prove their eligibility and that this would be verified before the candidate could even begin campaigning.
The Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves right now.
Legal “technicalities” just do not matter to the Democrats. “Bubba” Clinton’s lies and lawbreaking greased the slide for Nobama and all Democrats forever. The Constitution is a “living” document, don’t ya know? also known as “defining deviancy down”.
Biden would be proud to run with OR against McCain
there is not a dimes difference between the parties anyway.
I would think the judge would make a ruling early next week, hopefully, with time being of the essence since voting has already began.
And since a “reasonable doubt” has been raised in the lawsuit that then it becomes imperative that Obama put up or shut-up and go home wherever to heck “home” is.
Another link worth checking out: Obama Crimes
I agree the FEC is the logial ones to enforce that provision. If not, the U.S. Justice Dept or the FBI being next. I just want someone to do it.
I included NSA simply because they are charged with protecting the presidency and the CIA because they are charged with conducting intellegence on foreign operatives. And what's a more dangerous foreign operative than someone insinuating himself into American politics and running for president?
He was born in 1961.
How many people really believe this one is his?
If the truth comes to light after the electoral college vote, it would be a case for the courts, but the 25th Amendment says that "The Vice President serves as President until the President qualifies". In this case, he would NEVER qualify and Biden would be President
Not necessarily the election, only his. My understanding is that since he would be disqualified from actually standing for, not just being elected to, the office, should this occur, his disqualification/removal would not fall under the incapacitated situation, Biden would not succeed but in fact, the person with the next most electoral votes, McCain, would be declared the winner of the office, since we do not have *do overs* in this country.
The founding fathers of this country had a good reason for requiring certain things. Hussein’s involvement with the communist Ayers and entanglement with Alinsky’s communist principles is a clue to the clear and present danger. The MSM with its stylish insistence on not being seen as “prejudiced” will not bring up any problem with Obama.
The Democratic Party is now tantamount with the Communist Party at this point.
Excellent interview Berg on the Quinn and Rose Morning show (Oct.3rd).
See podcast - Hour three
Everybody needs to hear this.
I want Berg to succeed, but I feel that if the Liberal Messiah is coronated he will be dealt with Putin style. This country is being conquered by a “citizen of the world” and half of the People are enthralled with that.
CAIR is a front group for the (global) Muslim Brotherhood and is funded by the Saudis. The Saudis make $400 billion a year in profit not sales - in selling us oil. Their profit margin is about 90%.
Wonder why the Democrats have a NO Energy Policy when we have FOUR times the Saudis reserves in coal diesel, shale oil and ND oil in the lower 48 states that we can recover for $30 a barrel? They want Obama to win to keep us energy dependent on them. We are their slaves.
Sarah can change that. She and Todd can turn MI and win WS and MN. McCain had a horrible week due to bailout and he was STILL +1 or tied in WS and MN. Sarah connects with the North Midwest hockey moms and dads.
“The one Obama showed on his web site was a crude fake. He supposedly got a copy from Hawaii office of birth records or whatever it is called.”
In addition to this, the document is a “Certification of Live Birth”, which is not the same as a “Certificate of Live Birth.”
I found this on the State of Hawaii website (page 7 in the pdf linked below). It is actually part of a document describing some program for native Hawaiians to purchase land, but it does offer this interesting description of the Certificate of Live Birth vs. the Certification:
“In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.
When requesting a certified copy of your birth certificate from the Vital Records Section of DOH, let the clerk know you are requesting it “For DHHL Purposes,” and that you need a copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth and not the computer-generated Certification.”
So let me get this straight...the Certification of Live Birth alone isn’t sufficient to prove eligibility to take part in this state program...but we are supposed to accept it as proof of eligibility for the Presidency of the United States!??!
I know. I was answering No. 44.
Unless a Constitutional expert convinces me otherwise, you are a natural born citizen if born of two American parents on foreign soil.
If it had a chance of working, I’ll do $1,000.
“Even in the case of a fraudulent campaign”
What would such a situation do to the country and its people? What would they do now if this proved true?
“My understanding is that since he would be disqualified from actually standing for, not just being elected to, the office, should this occur, his disqualification/removal would not fall under the incapacitated situation, Biden would not succeed but in fact, the person with the next most electoral votes, McCain, would be declared the winner of the office, since we do not have *do overs* in this country.”
Your understanding is correct. The 12th Amendment requires that each elector cast one vote for president and one for veep...Biden is NOT on the ballot for President, so McCain would take the votes in case of Hussein’s ineligibility.