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DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
World Net Daily ^ | October 4, 2008 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild

The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.

As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.

Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


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To: doug from upland
I would certainly be one of 100,000 Americans who would give 10 bucks.

I'd donate $100. It's that important.

151 posted on 10/04/2008 10:33:55 AM PDT by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Amityschild
"is outraged that his own party - rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks - would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit. " WHAT is Obama hiding? WHY doesn't he just produce his birth certificate or rather, give permission to this guy's lawyer to obtain it from Hawaii -- unless there is NO birth certificate in Hawaii.
152 posted on 10/04/2008 10:34:20 AM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: border bud

No, because those that voted for a candidate who was ineligible should get to cast a vote for the eligible person of their choice. I doubt it would be handed over to McCain. This would be a HUGE court battle and since there is no precedent I could only imagine the chaos.


153 posted on 10/04/2008 10:34:20 AM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: nobama08
I had a friend who was born in Nassau, his mother was Bahamian and his father was a US natural born citizen.

That's part of the point here (I think). Barry has both Indonesian and American citizenship, doesn't he? Not trying to cloud the waters... honest.

154 posted on 10/04/2008 10:37:57 AM PDT by library user
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To: NCjim

“As much as I would love to be proven wrong, I don’t think that this dog is gonna hunt. You don’t think that Hillary would have outed him before the Convention if there was any way?”

It was impossible for her to play this card. Civil war would have broken out within the Dimm Party (half of them- blacks, nutroots, card carrying reds- wouldn’t care if his birth certificate showed his real name to be “Rat Commie B*stard, Jr.”) They would still want “change they could believe in.”

The nationally televised melt-down in Denver would destroy the DNC’s chances in November and would have ruptured relations between the party and their most loyal constituency (blacks) for years to come. Hillary would take the blame and wouldn’t have a chance in 2012. Her hands were effectively tied on this issue.


155 posted on 10/04/2008 10:38:48 AM PDT by Shady Ray
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To: Osage Orange

“The sheeple already know the guy is named Barack Hussein Obama....and that isn’t causing them problems.”

But not enough of them know how blatant a deceiver Obama is. And if only a small percent of the electorate—enough of the swing voters— becomes informed of this, Obama will be defeated.


156 posted on 10/04/2008 10:41:15 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (A liberal can never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs.)
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To: library user

But at 21 did he have to choose?


157 posted on 10/04/2008 10:41:27 AM PDT by nobama08
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To: nobama08
But at 21 did he have to choose?

Nope. He's the Messiah, remember? :)

158 posted on 10/04/2008 10:43:01 AM PDT by library user
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To: doug from upland
If an American couple is on vacation in France, and the baby decides to arrive early, that child is an American citizen.

Hussein (Mohammed)-boy was NOT born by an American couple!!!

159 posted on 10/04/2008 10:43:08 AM PDT by danamco
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To: Shady Ray

has anyone actually read Berg’s action? Apparently “the one” has relatives who say he was born in Kenya.


160 posted on 10/04/2008 10:43:45 AM PDT by jester221 ( Rock the casbah)
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To: All

His mother died in 1995? Maybe she had the long form birth certificate and her passport, but they were discarded by accident (it happens!). Is the hospital in Hawaii supposed to have a copy of the long form? Which hospital?


161 posted on 10/04/2008 10:45:00 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: XR7

I understand Hannnity is doing a special on Obama’s “associates” Sunday night.


162 posted on 10/04/2008 10:48:14 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: border bud

No... from a constitutional stand point, I am almost positive that the VP (Biden) would take over... good news is that after that revelation, there would be no way a Dem could win in 2012


163 posted on 10/04/2008 10:48:29 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble
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To: gimme1ibertee

“If Berg can back up his claims with hard facts, why not put a TV ad out,buy a full-page ad in the paper,scream it from the rooftops?”

Maybe he will...


164 posted on 10/04/2008 10:48:42 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Patas

If Illinois has the responsibility, we’re doomed. Mayor Daley’s mob has things tightly wrapped up for Obama.


165 posted on 10/04/2008 10:49:50 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: doug from upland

Yes but ineligible to run for president.

there is a difference between citizenship and elegibiltiy


166 posted on 10/04/2008 10:50:05 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble
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To: jester221

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1078071/Philip-Berg-vs-Barack-Hussein-Obama-Citizenship-Lawsuit

“Obama’s grandmother on his Father’s side, half brother and half sister claim he was born in Kenya.... Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama’s Mother) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama’s birth”.


167 posted on 10/04/2008 10:50:06 AM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Shady Ray
You don’t think that Hillary would have outed him before the Convention if there was any way?”

She already did, through Philip Berg, an avid Clintooon supporter!!!

168 posted on 10/04/2008 10:50:42 AM PDT by danamco
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To: doug from upland

I am in for 10 and I don’t have much money! But what does it say if Americans vote for Obama to become President? Comments everyone.


169 posted on 10/04/2008 10:52:33 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”

So that means that Biden would ACT as President “until a President shall have qualified.”

So does that mean that the Congress will then get to pick who shall ACT as a President, or pick a President, or pick a process by which a President is chosen?


170 posted on 10/04/2008 10:52:53 AM PDT by border bud
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To: DannyTN
NSA & CIA are NOT law enforcement agencies! (You watch too much TV!) The FEC is supposed to police in some sense national elections. (And we have seen how ineffectual that agency is! I don't know if it has any actual enforcement capability!) However primary responsibility for vetting a candidate for ballot access lies with the states. Nowadays states have a minimal sense of self-soveriegnity so don't expect any action there either!
Consider the Obama phenomenon, his mysterious background, his almost nonexistence ties to this country and half the population DOESN'T CARE!
If he is elected and its proven that he is not a citizen I guarentee that there will be NO effort to remove him from office. Some sort of “citizen-forgiveness-do-over” will be arranged and very few people (other then us Neanderthal Freepers ) will care!
The Constitution at long last will be a quaint historical curiosity and we will be what the Founding Fathers hoped to avoid a “democracy”. Which to them was a pejorative term meaning mob rule.
171 posted on 10/04/2008 10:53:23 AM PDT by Reily
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To: moose2004

I honestly don’t believe that the Constitution was designed to ever deal with a quagmire situation like that. It very specifically lays out the qualifications to run for office, and the writers of the Constitution very likely assumed that potential candidates would have the integrity to prove their eligibility and that this would be verified before the candidate could even begin campaigning.
The Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves right now.


172 posted on 10/04/2008 10:53:40 AM PDT by Bob In Spokane (The victory of the light is all.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Legal “technicalities” just do not matter to the Democrats. “Bubba” Clinton’s lies and lawbreaking greased the slide for Nobama and all Democrats forever. The Constitution is a “living” document, don’t ya know? also known as “defining deviancy down”.


173 posted on 10/04/2008 10:54:26 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: lewislynn

Biden would be proud to run with OR against McCain
there is not a dimes difference between the parties anyway.


174 posted on 10/04/2008 10:55:16 AM PDT by omega4179 (BARR 2008)
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To: FocusNexus

I would think the judge would make a ruling early next week, hopefully, with time being of the essence since voting has already began.

And since a “reasonable doubt” has been raised in the lawsuit that then it becomes imperative that Obama put up or shut-up and go home wherever to heck “home” is.


175 posted on 10/04/2008 10:56:55 AM PDT by Qwackertoo
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To: Amityschild
Here is an interesting recent YouTube video on the Berg vs. Obama lawsuit. It is current and easily worth your 2 minutes.

Case Update: CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083

Another link worth checking out: Obama Crimes

176 posted on 10/04/2008 10:58:37 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Reily
"NSA & CIA are NOT law enforcement agencies! (You watch too much TV!) The FEC is supposed to police in some sense national elections."

I agree the FEC is the logial ones to enforce that provision. If not, the U.S. Justice Dept or the FBI being next. I just want someone to do it.

I included NSA simply because they are charged with protecting the presidency and the CIA because they are charged with conducting intellegence on foreign operatives. And what's a more dangerous foreign operative than someone insinuating himself into American politics and running for president?

177 posted on 10/04/2008 10:59:21 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Amityschild
His birth certificate should look like this one (1963).

He was born in 1961.

How many people really believe this one is his?


178 posted on 10/04/2008 10:59:33 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: rfreedom4u
If Hussein wins on Nov 4th (GOD forbid) he will be called the President-Elect. In reality, he would not be the President-Elect until the Electoral College meets in December and cast their ballots. While they are "pledged" to an indiviual, they are not required to vote for them. Therefore, if it comes to light that Hussein is not a "natural born" citizen the members of the Electoral College can correct the situation by voting for someone else. It takes 270 electoral votes to win.

If the truth comes to light after the electoral college vote, it would be a case for the courts, but the 25th Amendment says that "The Vice President serves as President until the President qualifies". In this case, he would NEVER qualify and Biden would be President

179 posted on 10/04/2008 11:01:07 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Just your average "Whitey" - bitterly clinging to my guns and religion.)
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To: LegalEagle61
I agree, if Obama won and it was proven to be that he was not qualified the election would have been invalid.

Not necessarily the election, only his. My understanding is that since he would be disqualified from actually standing for, not just being elected to, the office, should this occur, his disqualification/removal would not fall under the incapacitated situation, Biden would not succeed but in fact, the person with the next most electoral votes, McCain, would be declared the winner of the office, since we do not have *do overs* in this country.

180 posted on 10/04/2008 11:01:29 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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I..don't have to prove ANYTHING!!!!!
181 posted on 10/04/2008 11:02:00 AM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: Amityschild

The founding fathers of this country had a good reason for requiring certain things. Hussein’s involvement with the communist Ayers and entanglement with Alinsky’s communist principles is a clue to the clear and present danger. The MSM with its stylish insistence on not being seen as “prejudiced” will not bring up any problem with Obama.

The Democratic Party is now tantamount with the Communist Party at this point.


182 posted on 10/04/2008 11:02:07 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: InterceptPoint
Hat-tip: zimfam007

Excellent interview Berg on the Quinn and Rose Morning show (Oct.3rd).

See podcast - Hour three

http://www.wpgb.com/main.html

Everybody needs to hear this.

183 posted on 10/04/2008 11:02:37 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: border bud
here's another angle. (putting tinfoil hat on) What if... Lolo Soetoro was Barack's actual father. Who does Obama look more alike? Barack Sr. (top) or Lolo (bottom)

184 posted on 10/04/2008 11:02:39 AM PDT by tuwood
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To: gimme1ibertee; ROTB
Oh, C’mon..... He’s a Dem lawyer. He can afford it,especially if he’s got friends with money. EVEY Dem has friends with money. If he can make his case,money should be no object.

Berg is a supporter of Mrs. Clinton...I'm sure Clinton Inc. is lurking in the shadows.
185 posted on 10/04/2008 11:02:41 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Amityschild

I want Berg to succeed, but I feel that if the Liberal Messiah is coronated he will be dealt with Putin style. This country is being conquered by a “citizen of the world” and half of the People are enthralled with that.


186 posted on 10/04/2008 11:04:25 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Domandred

CAIR is a front group for the (global) Muslim Brotherhood and is funded by the Saudis. The Saudis make $400 billion a year in profit not sales - in selling us oil. Their profit margin is about 90%.

Wonder why the Democrats have a NO Energy Policy when we have FOUR times the Saudis reserves in coal diesel, shale oil and ND oil in the lower 48 states that we can recover for $30 a barrel? They want Obama to win to keep us energy dependent on them. We are their slaves.

Sarah can change that. She and Todd can turn MI and win WS and MN. McCain had a horrible week due to bailout and he was STILL +1 or tied in WS and MN. Sarah connects with the North Midwest hockey moms and dads.


187 posted on 10/04/2008 11:04:58 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

“The one Obama showed on his web site was a crude fake. He supposedly got a copy from Hawaii office of birth records or whatever it is called.”

In addition to this, the document is a “Certification of Live Birth”, which is not the same as a “Certificate of Live Birth.”

I found this on the State of Hawaii website (page 7 in the pdf linked below). It is actually part of a document describing some program for native Hawaiians to purchase land, but it does offer this interesting description of the Certificate of Live Birth vs. the Certification:

“In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

When requesting a certified copy of your birth certificate from the Vital Records Section of DOH, let the clerk know you are requesting it “For DHHL Purposes,” and that you need a copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth and not the computer-generated Certification.”

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa%20Ka%20Aina%20Hoopulapula.pdf

So let me get this straight...the Certification of Live Birth alone isn’t sufficient to prove eligibility to take part in this state program...but we are supposed to accept it as proof of eligibility for the Presidency of the United States!??!


188 posted on 10/04/2008 11:05:30 AM PDT by Shady Ray
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To: nobama08

This may help - http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know.html


189 posted on 10/04/2008 11:06:22 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: FocusNexus

WOW!!!


190 posted on 10/04/2008 11:06:49 AM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: danamco

I know. I was answering No. 44.


191 posted on 10/04/2008 11:08:50 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: vikingd00d
"Those are some powerful drugs you are on."

I'm not wrong, and not on drugs. If a foreigner is knowingly allowed to infiltrate the executive branch of the US government and action is knowingly impeded, it simply means the country is no longer the US. The government and Constitution would have to be overthrown, not just ignored. No matter how badly you want to paint the situation in our country right now, it is not that bad. The majority of Americans would not stand for such a thing, and he would be dealt with. The paranoia here is getting a little out of hand.
192 posted on 10/04/2008 11:11:05 AM PDT by DRey
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To: wrhssaxensemble

Unless a Constitutional expert convinces me otherwise, you are a natural born citizen if born of two American parents on foreign soil.


193 posted on 10/04/2008 11:11:12 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: tuwood
Obama looks like his white grandfather. I don't see any asian. Barack has black in him.
194 posted on 10/04/2008 11:11:24 AM PDT by TrishaSC
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To: okokie
"Since when did the Dems let a little thing like the TRUTH get in their way?"

The Dems are 39% of the population. That is all.
195 posted on 10/04/2008 11:11:47 AM PDT by DRey
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To: American Quilter

If it had a chance of working, I’ll do $1,000.


196 posted on 10/04/2008 11:12:11 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: DannyTN
NSA is NOT charged with protecting the presidency !
It is a intelligence agency like CIA, only its specialty is signals intelligence(i.e., gathering and analyzing foreign communications) protecting US government communication(i.e. making USG codes & procedures secure.)
You must be thinking about the Secret Service when you say protecting the presidency, and they only protect the presidential person.
It's the job of the citizenry to protect the presidency & our the integrity of our governing institutions. A job we seem to be not interested in doing.
197 posted on 10/04/2008 11:12:51 AM PDT by Reily
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To: windcliff; onedoug

ping


198 posted on 10/04/2008 11:12:57 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (I'm a loner Dottie; a rebel.)
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To: NoGrayZone

“Even in the case of a fraudulent campaign”

What would such a situation do to the country and its people? What would they do now if this proved true?


199 posted on 10/04/2008 11:14:44 AM PDT by combat_boots (God, gun and babies. Justices, taxes and sovereignty. Otherwise known as White Trash. Count me in.)
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To: MozarkDawg

“My understanding is that since he would be disqualified from actually standing for, not just being elected to, the office, should this occur, his disqualification/removal would not fall under the incapacitated situation, Biden would not succeed but in fact, the person with the next most electoral votes, McCain, would be declared the winner of the office, since we do not have *do overs* in this country.”

Your understanding is correct. The 12th Amendment requires that each elector cast one vote for president and one for veep...Biden is NOT on the ballot for President, so McCain would take the votes in case of Hussein’s ineligibility.


200 posted on 10/04/2008 11:15:01 AM PDT by Shady Ray
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