Skip to comments.DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild
The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.
As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.
Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away instead of just providing the documents the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
According to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment, if President-elect Obama "failed to qualify", Vice President-elect Biden would "act as President" (i.e., be Acting President) until "a President shall have qualified."
This means that Biden would be Acting President and President Obama would be a figurehead. If Obama resigned, Biden would become a full fledged President and would nominate a new VP via Section 2 of the 25th Amendment. On the other hand, maybe Acting President Biden would simply be a puppet of the figurehead President. It depends on how ambitious would be Biden.
I think you’ll find the document interesting if you read through it. It addresses this issue.
I was thinking about the secret service.
Turns out Berg addressed the FEC and FBI agencies in his most recent court filing.
On page 13-14 of Filing #13, at the link in the article. Berg claims that the FEC and DNC have refused to investigate. The FBI claims they don’t do investigations on candidates backgrounds. And the court is the only remedy that plantiff has left.
The original is in an archive, and may have different information. Remember, an Obama acolyte was found referencing records and potentially tampering with them. Regardless, there's no way to prove the electronic version, which gets written into the freshly printed “Certificate of Birth” is what was truth or what was on the original birth certificate.
We also need records of his mother's birth certificate and residency status. Regardless of what Obama’s birth certificate says, she had to be over the age of 20 and here for a certain number of years for Obama to be legally considered a “natural born citizen.”
Obama can be kicked out of the running in several ways through the allegations in the lawsuit.
what’s going on with that Justia doc court order whose thread is locked?
(Let me see what else) Oh yeah, it's racist. That requirement was established by those old dead White guys.
He would only have US citizenship if his mother was an American citizen and if she had applied for a Certificate of Brith Abroad with the US embassy/consulate in the country that she was in. (Assuming he was born abroad.)
I’ve never seen any convincing proof Obama’s birth, nor has he offered any.
Yes an HOUR LONG Hannity special all about everything we have been trying to get out for I don’t know how long now. Tell everyone you know, at least someone is trying to do something about it. But I have to think that the ONLY reason the NY Slimes did a piece on the Ayers thing was because THEY KNOW shit is about to hit the fan, they are trying to lessen the impact. You always save this stuff until near end so that there isn’t enough time for the other side to spin it. Just have to put that “reasonable doubt” into someone’s mind...so they are reluctant to pull the Obama Communist lever and go with the safe choice in McCain.
“reasonable doubt” is only in criminal cases, this is a civil matter and only requires preponderence of the evidence.
Actually, B Hussein looks the most like his communist mentor Franklin Marshall Davis. Do we have a Barry Davis?
Resume of: B HUSSEIN OBAMA
Proven fake by more than one source
2.) Sketchy childhood
We know some details - Lots of gaps - muslim?
3.) College thesis has vanished
Was it anything like Micheles?
4.) Overseas travel
Pakistan? Why? On what passport?
5.) Law records
What cases did he represent?
6.) Senate records disappeared
What was he trying to hide?
Rev Wright, Ft Flager, Ayers, Rezko, Davis, Michele etc.
8.) Senate voting record
That speaks for itself
Who would his choices be?
10.) Proven Liar
12.) Racist, Sexist, Radical, Marxist views
THIS IS THE TRUTH FOLKS!! NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!
B Hussein scares the hell out of me.
Keep the community organizer out of the White House
BETWEEN THE ILLEGAL DONATIONS AND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ISSUE
MAYBE TIME TO FREEP THE FEC
How to Contact the Office of Inspector General:
1-202-694-1015 Federal Election Commission
1-800-424-9530 Office of Inspector General
Fax 999 E Street, NW
1-202-501-8134 Room 940
E-mail Washington, DC 20463
How to Contact the Federal Election Commission:
1-800-424-9530 Federal Election Commission
1-202-694-1100 (Washington, DC) 999 E Street, NW
1-202-219-3336 (Hearing Impaired) Washington, DC 20463
True, Obama’s election would be invalid, however since there is no prcedence for this, it would become a court matter-—bigger than we have ever seen.
Drudge has a tip submission. I think everyone that sees this article should alert the media. At least Drudge.
So we'd have President McCain, who won the majority of the (valid) votes, and Vice President Biden, who won the majority of (valid) votes.
Join the fun ping!
I’m just guessing, but this has been posted numerous times. Maybe the administrator should have notes that?
Wrong, see post #202.
Doug, I’ll certainly go $100 or even more:-)
And isn't that the worst part of this whole thing? They accused Bush of causing a Constitutional crisis, I had argument after shouting match with people who couldn't explain for me how this could be when he didn't have any hand in those in FL being so inept at properly casting a ballot, nor in Gore demanding umpteen recounts. But here, this could be rendered moot, no more problem, no precedent, no crisis whatever -- all 0bama needs to do is provide the court with proper documentation to show that indeed, he fulfills the Constitutional requirements to stand for election as president. What's the big deal, what is it so hard, why the stonewall??
Gee, would it be because he can't, d'ya s'pose??
I don’t get why this would be a problem, assuming that Obama has a legal birth certificate. This could so easily be nipped in the bud by him releasing his birth certificate long ago, assuming that he has one.
Maybe this is an incorrect assumption, but, don’t candidates running for office have to produce identification when they file papers to run for office?
The way Obama’s campaign is treating this, you would think that where there’s smoke, there’s fire. If all they have to do to resolve it is produce an actual legal birth certificate, that would be such a routine procedure that it would have been done.
Can you imagine if this story ever hits the MSM, how hard it will be to explain, if the basic qualifications to run for president are questionable for one of our two major party candidates??????
did you go to the site to read the doc? The only thing i see wrong with it is that it isn’t dated. It says “September ____, 2008.” if it’s authentic, it certainly belongs in “Breaking News.” The other problem is that the citation says it’s from Little Green Footballs but there’s no mention of it there.
That is what I have been telling people. I am from California and my birth certificate looks more consistent with yours.
I shows addresses of mom/dad and much of the information you have.
Keating 5 is such old news and McCain was cleared on that.
The Electoral College will not declare McCain President, if Obama is not a citizen. The Democrat electors will vote for a Democrat. In any state carried by Obama, the electors are faithful party workers. They would never vote for McCain if Obama were ineligible. If that happened, they would vote for another Democrat instead.
We may get a constitutional history lesson if this lawsuit results in Obama being ineligible.
I understand that Philip Berg prepared that document for the judge to sign, and the judge has not signed it yet. So apparently the judge is still considering.
Here’s another interesting thread
thanks that’s the info I needed
That document that wasn’t dated is something attorneys do, I am a paralegal and type them all of the time, you type the order so if you win your motion the Court just certifies and signs it. Its kind of like helping the court out. It was NOT a DENIAL you saw, it has not been ruled on yet is what my understanding is.
If he takes the Oath of Office and is found to have been elected illegally I am not really sure if he is automatically removed or whether he would need to be impeached and convicted by the Senate to be removed from office. Either way, Biden would then become President.
He was partially aborted in Kenya or Indonesia, and then born in Hawaii?
proably Hillary wanted and could have outed Obama HSEIN and his Kenyan birth earlier, but Obama Hussein may have been threatening her with gotcha information of his own and she couldn’t afford to take the bad publicity, better to wait for 2012 when the stars would be better aligned!:-)
thank you . I thought we had it there.
Not only was he cleared, 4 of the 5 were Dems. It will be messy.
If Obama 'fails to qualify' then he's not going to be a figurehead, he's going back to the Senate (at least at first). Joe Biden will be President, for all intents and purposes.
It's not like Obama would qualify at a later time. There'd be no reason for Biden, who's wanted to be President for decades, to play puppet for a former rival who will go from Messiah to pariah in a single news cycle. If Obama is caught intentionally falsifying paperwork to become president, a large chunk of Democrats will turn on him, as well as all independents and Republicans.
There's about 20% of the electorate which would be happy if Obama made diapers out of the Constitution, and filled them while he was inaugurated. They'll scream bloody murder if a Constitutional challenge is raised, regardless of how fair or legal it is.
His mother was 17 at the time which means that Obama would not have automatically received citizenship with a Kenyan father.
Where, oh where are the Bernsteins and Woodwards of the 21st century?
I know that this concerns a man on the left side of the political specter, but isn't there fame and fortune awaiting any journalist who can unravel this scandal?
Or are they so afraid that their peers will never again speak to them for having killed off the chances of the “One We Are Waiting For”?
What a great idea.
or it needs is for the likes of FOX to look into this and raise this many times.
Then they need to ask obama and his staff when they appear on FOX why won’t obama show his birth certificate and why is the DNC stopping people from seeing it.
Doesn’t matter what side you are on this is for the integrity and presidency of America
It seems to me that with satan’s help, the one is going to be unstoppable. No matter what we do, if he is destined to be the “hope” of the world, then we just have to wait for 3 and 1/2 years for it to be over. They won’t be pleasant years. Prepare to repent and pray for our Lord to come quickly.
I’ve been following it all- but won’t get my hopes up until the judge signs the order. I am surprised the judge didn’t throw it out when Obama AND the DNC asked- which is the only cause I see for “hope”.
The collusion between his campaign and the MSM is beyond belief- like today’s whitewash piece in the NYT on his friendship with Bill Ayers. The majority of the country doesn’t know or care about who and what Obama is- what he plans and who his associates are. The media is going to keep it that way.
Again, he provided one. But Berg is seeking release of the photocopy of the “long form” one.
From the link GOP provided the following is quite interesting and quite consistent with 0’s MO.
Part of Obama’s legal team is Joe Sandler of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reiff, and Young. Sandler is part of the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR is an organization with terrorist ties, and is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holyland Foundation Hamas Funding trial.
Why is a candidate for President of the United States, a person who would become Commander-in-Chief of the United States forces and also CIC in the war on terror if he wins the election, using an attorney for CAIR, a group with known terrorist connections, to represent him in this lawsuit? Once again Obama leaves us with questions and no answers. And, once again, he aligns himself with someone with questionable character. Is his judgment really that bad? Or does he believe and support the same things these people believe?
Again, there is SO much we do not know about Obama, which is disturbing in itself. Even more disturbing is what we DO know about him. There are SO many red flags that people refuse to see or explore or think about or question him about. I am sure Obama supporters will just dismiss this, as they did with so many other bad associations, (Wright, Ayers, Dorhn, Rezko, Farrakhan) but I have to question what these people are thinking or whether they are even thinking at all?!
It would be important to post a live thread sometime tomorrow on Breaking so everyone here can watch.
Or, Berg raise a million dollars to be given to Obama’s favorite charity if he simply provides his real original birth certificate.
Thanks for the ping. I have been lurking on the thread a bit this morning. Hope it goes somewhere. If there is nothing here..why doesn’t the Obama campaign just release the original document? Berg said he would drop the suit if they did produce his BC! Seems a whole lot cheaper than filing suits to shut Berg down. ??????
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