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DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
World Net Daily ^ | October 4, 2008 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild

The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.

As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.

Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

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201 posted on 10/04/2008 11:17:31 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: wrhssaxensemble
No... from a constitutional stand point, I am almost positive that the VP (Biden) would take over

According to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment, if President-elect Obama "failed to qualify", Vice President-elect Biden would "act as President" (i.e., be Acting President) until "a President shall have qualified."

This means that Biden would be Acting President and President Obama would be a figurehead. If Obama resigned, Biden would become a full fledged President and would nominate a new VP via Section 2 of the 25th Amendment. On the other hand, maybe Acting President Biden would simply be a puppet of the figurehead President. It depends on how ambitious would be Biden.

202 posted on 10/04/2008 11:18:18 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

I think you’ll find the document interesting if you read through it. It addresses this issue.


203 posted on 10/04/2008 11:18:46 AM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: Reily

I was thinking about the secret service.

Turns out Berg addressed the FEC and FBI agencies in his most recent court filing.

On page 13-14 of Filing #13, at the link in the article. Berg claims that the FEC and DNC have refused to investigate. The FBI claims they don’t do investigations on candidates backgrounds. And the court is the only remedy that plantiff has left.


204 posted on 10/04/2008 11:20:47 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ScaniaBoy
That is a printed copy of the data that is supposed to be in his original birth certificate, done on a laser printer and stamped by a current employee in Hawaii.

The original is in an archive, and may have different information. Remember, an Obama acolyte was found referencing records and potentially tampering with them. Regardless, there's no way to prove the electronic version, which gets written into the freshly printed “Certificate of Birth” is what was truth or what was on the original birth certificate.

We also need records of his mother's birth certificate and residency status. Regardless of what Obama’s birth certificate says, she had to be over the age of 20 and here for a certain number of years for Obama to be legally considered a “natural born citizen.”

Obama can be kicked out of the running in several ways through the allegations in the lawsuit.

205 posted on 10/04/2008 11:21:24 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: GOPPachyderm

what’s going on with that Justia doc court order whose thread is locked?


206 posted on 10/04/2008 11:21:39 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Amityschild

207 posted on 10/04/2008 11:24:35 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Amityschild
He's a citizen of the world and in a nation of immigrants, why should it matter.

(Let me see what else) Oh yeah, it's racist. That requirement was established by those old dead White guys.

208 posted on 10/04/2008 11:25:32 AM PDT by blam
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To: library user

He would only have US citizenship if his mother was an American citizen and if she had applied for a Certificate of Brith Abroad with the US embassy/consulate in the country that she was in. (Assuming he was born abroad.)


209 posted on 10/04/2008 11:26:52 AM PDT by Bob In Spokane (The victory of the light is all.)
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To: stylecouncilor

I’ve never seen any convincing proof Obama’s birth, nor has he offered any.


210 posted on 10/04/2008 11:28:57 AM PDT by onedoug ( Barracuda!)
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To: sarasota

Yes an HOUR LONG Hannity special all about everything we have been trying to get out for I don’t know how long now. Tell everyone you know, at least someone is trying to do something about it. But I have to think that the ONLY reason the NY Slimes did a piece on the Ayers thing was because THEY KNOW shit is about to hit the fan, they are trying to lessen the impact. You always save this stuff until near end so that there isn’t enough time for the other side to spin it. Just have to put that “reasonable doubt” into someone’s mind...so they are reluctant to pull the Obama Communist lever and go with the safe choice in McCain.


211 posted on 10/04/2008 11:29:48 AM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: Qwackertoo

“reasonable doubt” is only in criminal cases, this is a civil matter and only requires preponderence of the evidence.


212 posted on 10/04/2008 11:31:20 AM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: tuwood

Actually, B Hussein looks the most like his communist mentor Franklin Marshall Davis. Do we have a Barry Davis?
____________________________________________________________

Resume of: B HUSSEIN OBAMA

1.) COLB
Proven fake by more than one source
2.) Sketchy childhood
We know some details - Lots of gaps - muslim?
3.) College thesis has vanished
Was it anything like Michele’s?
4.) Overseas travel
Pakistan? Why? On what passport?
5.) Law records
What cases did he represent?
6.) Senate records disappeared
What was he trying to hide?
7.) Associations
Rev Wright, Ft Flager, Ayers, Rezko, Davis, Michele etc.
8.) Senate voting record
That speaks for itself
9.) SCOTUS
Who would his choices be?
10.) Proven Liar
11.) Inexperience
12.) Racist, Sexist, Radical, Marxist views

THIS IS THE TRUTH FOLKS!! NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!
B Hussein scares the hell out of me.
Keep the community organizer out of the White House


213 posted on 10/04/2008 11:31:35 AM PDT by mouse1 (McCain Palin)
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To: mouse1

BETWEEN THE ILLEGAL DONATIONS AND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ISSUE
MAYBE TIME TO FREEP THE FEC

How to Contact the Office of Inspector General:
Call Mail
1-202-694-1015 Federal Election Commission
1-800-424-9530 Office of Inspector General
Fax 999 E Street, NW
1-202-501-8134 Room 940
E-mail Washington, DC 20463
oig@fec.gov

How to Contact the Federal Election Commission:
Call Mail
1-800-424-9530 Federal Election Commission
1-202-694-1100 (Washington, DC) 999 E Street, NW
1-202-219-3336 (Hearing Impaired) Washington, DC 20463


214 posted on 10/04/2008 11:32:07 AM PDT by mouse1 (McCain Palin)
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To: LegalEagle61
Remember, B Hussein will counter with the Keating 5. You are not kidding the sh** is about to hit the fan.
215 posted on 10/04/2008 11:32:45 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (McCain/Palin '08 ----- It's October, SURPRISE ME!)
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To: MozarkDawg

True, Obama’s election would be invalid, however since there is no prcedence for this, it would become a court matter-—bigger than we have ever seen.


216 posted on 10/04/2008 11:33:43 AM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: Amityschild

Drudge has a tip submission. I think everyone that sees this article should alert the media. At least Drudge.


217 posted on 10/04/2008 11:35:49 AM PDT by sball (If)
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To: Shady Ray
Your understanding is correct. The 12th Amendment requires that each elector cast one vote for president and one for veep...Biden is NOT on the ballot for President, so McCain would take the votes in case of Hussein’s ineligibility.

So we'd have President McCain, who won the majority of the (valid) votes, and Vice President Biden, who won the majority of (valid) votes.

Wonderful.

218 posted on 10/04/2008 11:36:26 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Commander Barack "Spock" Obama, "But, Captain... that would be... illiberal...")
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To: SE Mom; penelopesire; STARWISE

Join the fun ping!


219 posted on 10/04/2008 11:36:36 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: DannyTN
I have always thought Obama is the creation of Ayers. In the sense that Obama is a conduit for Ayer’s form of Maoism to be dressed up and made respectable. If it is actually true that Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be president. (Or even more bizarre a non-citizen altogether!) its a incredibly classical Maoist “agi-prop” operation to descredit our most sacred political institution, the presidency. Of course in the fevered mind of a Maoist like Ayers, the “oppressed masses” would then rise and choose him or Obama (Who can be discarded later!) to the the new “Fearless Leader”. Of course there are no “oppressed masses” other then the “campus Maoists” that Ayers deals with on a daily basis. The country is by in large too politically lethargic to do much more then “yawn”. This is dangerous because the slide will continue to slide our oblivion. It just won't happpen fast even to make Ayers’ “Red Dreams” come true and he hear the “Seig Heils” or people mindlessly quoting his political thought.
220 posted on 10/04/2008 11:38:00 AM PDT by Reily
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To: gusopol3

I’m just guessing, but this has been posted numerous times. Maybe the administrator should have notes that?


221 posted on 10/04/2008 11:40:47 AM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: Steel Wolf
So we'd have President McCain, who won the majority of the (valid) votes, and Vice President Biden, who won the majority of (valid) votes.

Wrong, see post #202.

222 posted on 10/04/2008 11:41:32 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: doug from upland

Doug, I’ll certainly go $100 or even more:-)


223 posted on 10/04/2008 11:42:24 AM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN IS AN EMPTY BRAIN and BODY with NO Redeeming Value!)
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To: LegalEagle61
True, Obama’s election would be invalid, however since there is no prcedence for this, it would become a court matter-—bigger than we have ever seen.

And isn't that the worst part of this whole thing? They accused Bush of causing a Constitutional crisis, I had argument after shouting match with people who couldn't explain for me how this could be when he didn't have any hand in those in FL being so inept at properly casting a ballot, nor in Gore demanding umpteen recounts. But here, this could be rendered moot, no more problem, no precedent, no crisis whatever -- all 0bama needs to do is provide the court with proper documentation to show that indeed, he fulfills the Constitutional requirements to stand for election as president. What's the big deal, what is it so hard, why the stonewall??

Gee, would it be because he can't, d'ya s'pose??

224 posted on 10/04/2008 11:42:56 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Logical me

I don’t get why this would be a problem, assuming that Obama has a legal birth certificate. This could so easily be nipped in the bud by him releasing his birth certificate long ago, assuming that he has one.

Maybe this is an incorrect assumption, but, don’t candidates running for office have to produce identification when they file papers to run for office?

The way Obama’s campaign is treating this, you would think that where there’s smoke, there’s fire. If all they have to do to resolve it is produce an actual legal birth certificate, that would be such a routine procedure that it would have been done.

Can you imagine if this story ever hits the MSM, how hard it will be to explain, if the basic qualifications to run for president are questionable for one of our two major party candidates??????


225 posted on 10/04/2008 11:44:33 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GOPPachyderm

did you go to the site to read the doc? The only thing i see wrong with it is that it isn’t dated. It says “September ____, 2008.” if it’s authentic, it certainly belongs in “Breaking News.” The other problem is that the citation says it’s from Little Green Footballs but there’s no mention of it there.


226 posted on 10/04/2008 11:44:38 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: SkyPilot

That is what I have been telling people. I am from California and my birth certificate looks more consistent with yours.

I shows addresses of mom/dad and much of the information you have.


227 posted on 10/04/2008 11:44:39 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: tiredoflaundry

Keating 5 is such old news and McCain was cleared on that.


228 posted on 10/04/2008 11:46:47 AM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: lewislynn

The Electoral College will not declare McCain President, if Obama is not a citizen. The Democrat electors will vote for a Democrat. In any state carried by Obama, the electors are faithful party workers. They would never vote for McCain if Obama were ineligible. If that happened, they would vote for another Democrat instead.

We may get a constitutional history lesson if this lawsuit results in Obama being ineligible.


229 posted on 10/04/2008 11:47:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: gusopol3

I understand that Philip Berg prepared that document for the judge to sign, and the judge has not signed it yet. So apparently the judge is still considering.

Here’s another interesting thread

http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/temporary-berg-v-obama-update.html


230 posted on 10/04/2008 11:47:03 AM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: GOPPachyderm

thanks that’s the info I needed


231 posted on 10/04/2008 11:50:03 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

That document that wasn’t dated is something attorneys do, I am a paralegal and type them all of the time, you type the order so if you win your motion the Court just certifies and signs it. Its kind of like helping the court out. It was NOT a DENIAL you saw, it has not been ruled on yet is what my understanding is.


232 posted on 10/04/2008 11:50:15 AM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: moose2004
Obama does not become President until January 20, 2009. If he is found to be ineligible before that and does not take the Oath of Office I don't think that Biden becomes President. A special election would need to be held.

If he takes the Oath of Office and is found to have been elected illegally I am not really sure if he is automatically removed or whether he would need to be impeached and convicted by the Senate to be removed from office. Either way, Biden would then become President.

233 posted on 10/04/2008 11:51:06 AM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: Mr Rogers
Actually, I believe it isn’t that simple. If he was born in a foreign country, he almost certainly would not be qualified to run for President.>>>>>>>>>>

He was partially aborted in Kenya or Indonesia, and then born in Hawaii?

LOL.

234 posted on 10/04/2008 11:52:08 AM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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To: danamco

proably Hillary wanted and could have outed Obama HSEIN and his Kenyan birth earlier, but Obama Hussein may have been threatening her with gotcha information of his own and she couldn’t afford to take the bad publicity, better to wait for 2012 when the stars would be better aligned!:-)


235 posted on 10/04/2008 11:53:00 AM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN IS AN EMPTY BRAIN and BODY with NO Redeeming Value!)
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To: LegalEagle61

thank you . I thought we had it there.


236 posted on 10/04/2008 11:54:32 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: LegalEagle61
I know ! But they will still use it. Remember most of Hussein's base will be hearing about it for the first time.

Not only was he cleared, 4 of the 5 were Dems. It will be messy.

237 posted on 10/04/2008 11:54:49 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (McCain/Palin '08 ----- It's October, SURPRISE ME!)
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To: Repeal 16-17
I was half kidding in my response; McCain will no doubt want Biden as his Secretary of State.

If Obama 'fails to qualify' then he's not going to be a figurehead, he's going back to the Senate (at least at first). Joe Biden will be President, for all intents and purposes.

It's not like Obama would qualify at a later time. There'd be no reason for Biden, who's wanted to be President for decades, to play puppet for a former rival who will go from Messiah to pariah in a single news cycle. If Obama is caught intentionally falsifying paperwork to become president, a large chunk of Democrats will turn on him, as well as all independents and Republicans.

There's about 20% of the electorate which would be happy if Obama made diapers out of the Constitution, and filled them while he was inaugurated. They'll scream bloody murder if a Constitutional challenge is raised, regardless of how fair or legal it is.

238 posted on 10/04/2008 11:54:54 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Commander Barack "Spock" Obama, "But, Captain... that would be... illiberal...")
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To: I got the rope

His mother was 17 at the time which means that Obama would not have automatically received citizenship with a Kenyan father.


239 posted on 10/04/2008 11:55:33 AM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: ConservativeMind
Yes, you are correct.

Where, oh where are the Bernsteins and Woodwards of the 21st century?

I know that this concerns a man on the left side of the political specter, but isn't there fame and fortune awaiting any journalist who can unravel this scandal?

Or are they so afraid that their peers will never again speak to them for having killed off the chances of the “One We Are Waiting For”?

240 posted on 10/04/2008 11:56:12 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: doug from upland

What a great idea.


241 posted on 10/04/2008 11:56:24 AM PDT by fatima (Put your lipstick on girls and go vote.)
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To: casinva

or it needs is for the likes of FOX to look into this and raise this many times.
Then they need to ask obama and his staff when they appear on FOX why won’t obama show his birth certificate and why is the DNC stopping people from seeing it.

Doesn’t matter what side you are on this is for the integrity and presidency of America


242 posted on 10/04/2008 11:56:30 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
They vary, but can have extra info, including doctor signatures, etc. I don't know what the one at that Hawaiian hospital would have had.
243 posted on 10/04/2008 11:57:26 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: JrsyJack

It seems to me that with satan’s help, the one is going to be unstoppable. No matter what we do, if he is destined to be the “hope” of the world, then we just have to wait for 3 and 1/2 years for it to be over. They won’t be pleasant years. Prepare to repent and pray for our Lord to come quickly.


244 posted on 10/04/2008 12:00:52 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Miss Didi

I’ve been following it all- but won’t get my hopes up until the judge signs the order. I am surprised the judge didn’t throw it out when Obama AND the DNC asked- which is the only cause I see for “hope”.

The collusion between his campaign and the MSM is beyond belief- like today’s whitewash piece in the NYT on his friendship with Bill Ayers. The majority of the country doesn’t know or care about who and what Obama is- what he plans and who his associates are. The media is going to keep it that way.


245 posted on 10/04/2008 12:01:01 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Logical me

Again, he provided one. But Berg is seeking release of the photocopy of the “long form” one.


246 posted on 10/04/2008 12:01:24 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: GOPPachyderm; LucyT

From the link GOP provided the following is quite interesting and quite consistent with 0’s MO.

Part of Obama’s legal team is Joe Sandler of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reiff, and Young. Sandler is part of the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR is an organization with terrorist ties, and is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holyland Foundation Hamas Funding trial.

Why is a candidate for President of the United States, a person who would become Commander-in-Chief of the United States forces and also CIC in the war on terror if he wins the election, using an attorney for CAIR, a group with known terrorist connections, to represent him in this lawsuit? Once again Obama leaves us with questions and no answers. And, once again, he aligns himself with someone with questionable character. Is his judgment really that bad? Or does he believe and support the same things these people believe?

Again, there is SO much we do not know about Obama, which is disturbing in itself. Even more disturbing is what we DO know about him. There are SO many red flags that people refuse to see or explore or think about or question him about. I am sure Obama supporters will just dismiss this, as they did with so many other bad associations, (Wright, Ayers, Dorhn, Rezko, Farrakhan) but I have to question what these people are thinking or whether they are even thinking at all?!


247 posted on 10/04/2008 12:03:40 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (READ MY LIPSTICK!!! I'm praying for Sarah Palin - Keep the vultures away from her.)
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To: LegalEagle61

It would be important to post a live thread sometime tomorrow on Breaking so everyone here can watch.


248 posted on 10/04/2008 12:03:41 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: fatima

Or, Berg raise a million dollars to be given to Obama’s favorite charity if he simply provides his real original birth certificate.


249 posted on 10/04/2008 12:04:21 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Miss Didi

Thanks for the ping. I have been lurking on the thread a bit this morning. Hope it goes somewhere. If there is nothing here..why doesn’t the Obama campaign just release the original document? Berg said he would drop the suit if they did produce his BC! Seems a whole lot cheaper than filing suits to shut Berg down. ??????

Very suspicious!


250 posted on 10/04/2008 12:04:33 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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