Skip to comments.DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild
The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.
As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.
Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away instead of just providing the documents the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.
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You are right on!!!! This is what the Lord has been showing me too. I say that not loosely but with SERIOUS backing of scripture. I also say it with absolute peace in my heart because ultimately, in the end, my KING is victorious!!!!
Quite obvious even if Osama Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims (which I don’t believe), that citizenship was given up by his mother when an INDONESIAN citizen adopted him. He’s not a US citizen, naturalized or otherwise.
I agree with your premise. he was born in the U.S. but there is something on the birth certificate they don't want us to see.
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
The birth of a child abroad to U.S. citizen parent(s) should be reported as soon as possible to the nearest American consular office for the purpose of establishing an official record of the child’s claim to U.S. citizenship at birth. The official record is in the form of a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America. This document, referred to as the Consular Report of Birth or FS-240, is considered a basic United States citizenship document. An original FS-240 is furnished to the parent(s) at the time the registration is approved.
REPORTING THE BIRTH
A Consular Report of Birth can be prepared only at an American consular office overseas while the child is under the age of 18. Usually, in order to establish the childs citizenship under the appropriate provisions of U.S. law, the following documents must be submitted:
(1) an official record of the childs foreign birth;
(2) evidence of the parent(s) U.S. citizenship (e.g., a certified birth certificate, current U.S.
passport, or Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship);
(3) evidence of the parents marriage, if applicable; and
(4) affidavits of parent(s) residence and physical presence in the United States.
In certain cases, it may be necessary to submit additional documents, including affidavits of paternity and support, divorce decrees from prior marriages, or medical reports of blood compatibility. All evidentiary documents should be certified as true copies of the originals by the registrar of the office wherein each document was issued. A service fee of $65 is prescribed under the provisions of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Section 22.1, item 9, for a Consular Report of Birth.
Isn’t it GREAT when the LIEberal DUmocrats eat their own!
Naturalized isn't enough, the Constitution specifies one must be a "natural-born" citizen.
Assume ... nahhh ... He will CROWN HIMSELF.
“Whose job is it to determine whether or not a candidate meets the constitutional test?...”
It appears to be the responsibility of Congress - both the Senate and House of Representatives.
Go to this link for the following explanation:
Arguments concerning qualifications or lack thereof can be laid before the voting public before the election and, once the election is over, can be raised as objections as the electoral votes are counted in Congress.
Federal legislation further details the process for counting electoral votes in Congress ..
The statute provides a mechanism for objections then to be registered and resolved: [e]very objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made . . . shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision.
The Twentieth Amendment further provides, if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified
It is clear that mechanisms exist under the Twelfth Amendment and 3 U.S.C. 15 for any challenge to any candidate to be ventilated when electoral votes are counted, and that the Twentieth Amendment provides guidance regarding how to proceed if a president elect shall have failed to qualify.
My comment: this is not encouraging. Our way out of this mess may require that Republicans take back the House and the Senate.
That Barry clearly has allegiances to one or more countries other than the US, be it Indonesia and/or Kenya, is contrary to the spirit--if not the letter--of the Constitutional requirement to be a natural born US citizen to be our President.
As Barry has admitted to falsifying his bar exam application and now we see incontrovertible evidence that his publicly-submitted BC was a fake, one surely doesn't have to cross any rickety bridge to see that 0bambi's experienced at deceit through documents. Why the @#&$%&! does anyone get a "do over" in such a situation, irrespective of an adjudication of where he was born or whether he's is a naturally-born US citizen???!?!?!
Didn’t The One say in his “auto biography” that he ran across some old photographs and his birth certificate in his grandma’s attic, when he was about fifteen?
Sounds like he knew this would be a problem and was creating a legend for himself, like the Soviet spy masters did for their sleeper agents.
The scenario I created was of two American parents. Clearly, Obama’s dad was Kenyan (unless Jesse Jackson managed to nail her, also).
Sounding like a cross between Adolph Hilter, and Elmer Fudd...
Imagine a partisan affirmation for Obama's election despite obvious non-qualification! I would bet on two years of riots on the streets of every city, or until such time 0bambi were removed through impeachment! Out of fear for their very lives, I don't think a sufficient number of dhimmicRats would take it upon themselves to foist that Obamanation upon the country, but it wouldn't be the first time we've been disappointed in dhimmicrats, eh?
If the House Dhimms threw such back in our face, the legal challenges would be immediate and plentiful. The USSC would be forced to take up with issue within weeks, probably before Obambi ever took office. He would never be administered the Oath of office, and we'd have Biden for four years. He might get Hillary as his VP, in which case, he'd be spending so much time watching his back that every little of substance could get done.
With the dhims having defrauded the American public under this scenario, the public would allow very little Biden-Clinton-dhimCongress work to be enacted, under threat of power removal. They'd be scared into paralysis, hoping to be allowed to stay on. Alas, that won't restore their power to them after the 2010 midterm.
At the midterm election, the house and Senate would turn overwhelmingly Republican, and in 2012, the Palin/Jindal ticket would win by a landslide.
And God will continue to work in mysterious ways. That's assured!
I can see it now... “it’s just sex” becomes “its just birth”
Good thought, but means nothing. If Obama is President the first thing the RATS and he will do is issue an executive order exempting him that the President does not have to be a US Citizen.Fortunately executive orders don't negate constitutional amendments.
The electoral college votes AFTER the election, and its decision is reviewable by SCOTUSYou don't really think the DNC or the courts are going to disclose his ineligibility before the
The Electoral College will not declare McCain President,I know, I never said they would.
The State, who pushes it onto the party heads in that state. The parties tell the state who is approved to go on the ballot.
Biden would be proud to run with OR against McCain there is not a dimes difference between the parties anywayThat's why I didn't bother voting in the last presidential election.
That's why this time I'm voting Palin/McCain...
Before anyone wants to lecture me about who is at the top of the ticket I'll just say that it's the quickest way for Sarah Palin to get to where she should be.
I'll take 4 or more years of McCain before I'll take Brownshirt truth squads, Jeromiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Michell Obama and other anti-americans in the Whitr House, fairness doctrine, new government spending, government health care, ACORN expansion, higher taxes, the list is endless.
Not from Hawaii you can’t. There are some real hoops to jump through. You have to be that person, in person, with proof or have a family member do it for you if you have all your ID stolen. ( I was born in Hawaii and had all my stuff stolen in a cross country move. So I know, I had to do it ) I now have a certified copy and it has a raised watermark and everything.
I believe the intent of that is if there is no clear winner in the Electoral College and Congress is deadlocked on deciding a winner. Assuming Obama wins the election, then a president would have been chosen by the electoral college. If Obama is then found ineligible then I think it would be treated the same as if he had died, and Biden would become President.
Or if Biden isn’t the VP at that point...we get Hildebeast.
I don’t think his lawsuit is asking the FEC to do it. I think Berg is asking the court to do it, since nobody else will or claims to be charged with it.
WorldNetDaily.com quoted Berg as saying “The real outrage is that there’s nothing in our system that provides that a candidate must provide that his qualifications are true and correct before he or she runs, and that safeguard should be put into our system by law,” Berg said.
Maybe what we need is for a legislator to introduce that law to congress as a backup to Berg.
The DNC is a defendant.
Why wouldn’t they participate in the case?
I don’t understand what the concern is about their role.
Getting curiouser and curiouser.
Birth certificates are easy to get, just ask any illegal immigrant.
Don't forget tho, sometimes shi'ite happens . . .
Joe Biden meets all of the qualifications to be President, so he can run to be the Vice President.
sunni or later shiite happens.
It makes sense since the guy who chose his as VP is essentially illegal himself. New candidate, new VP.
If it happened before the Electoral College voted, they could vote for someone else entirely. With how it's done now I believe, but am not certain, they could not vote for Biden as POTUS. Another candidate would have to be chosen much like happened when Horace Greeley died and his electors split votes among different candidates. It didn't matter since Greeley was the loser. This year, however, it could matter. We could end up with Hillary installed as President.
If it happened after they voted and before the inauguration, the House could decide who should be president but they are limited to only the top 3 electoral vote getters. With Obama disqualified, McCain would surely be president and likely stuck with Biden as his VP.
Aren’t birth records public knowledge?
Biden would be Acting President, with Obama being essentially a figurehead. Section 3 of the 20th Amendment makes this clear.
I’m posting this blind cause, frankly there are too many GREAT comments to follow up on w/r Obama illigitimacy.
We are seeing a convergence of events that are being engineered by the media, the DNC, all the little actors - Soros, Pelosi,Reid, particularly Dean (notice he isn’t anywhere to be found), Immanual, -—— Oh Hell, lets just say the vast left wing conspirisy.
I’ll post later on my personal response to these commies.
And they are that!!!
Too many posters keep saying that all Hussein has to do is produce an authentic birth certificate—this is not the case; even if it can be proved that Hussein was born in Hawaii, Berg’s lawsuit points to a myriad of other disqualifying issues of dual or later exclusive foreign citizenship/divided loyalties/perjury/etc.
I encourage all to read Berg’s actual complaint to understand the issues involved in the case.
The founders’ intention was that POTUS be possesssed of UNDIVIDED LOYALTY to the United States, hence the natural born citizenship aspect. But Hussein has demonstrated in all of his words, writings, actions, Logan Act violations, associations and collaborations with anti-American figures over the years, that he is anything BUT loyal to America.
Wait! AFRICAN is not a race, but a geographic description. (See description of the father.) That was in 1961, BEFORE the era of political correctness. Therefore, the birth certificate is invalid!
I’m actually kinda surprised that Union members aren’t taking an interest in the Obama/communist issue. My experience with unions is that they are good well meaning folks that think their membership helps fair play in the work place. This Obama clown is much beyond that. He really want the proletariat(sp?)and their children to bow down to him. That should be morally offensive in the max.
Obama himself said “I was born in Kenya and raised by a single mother” as part of his acceptance speech at the convention. I’m sure it’s on Youtube somewhere.
No maybe about it. You're not up to speed on this. Keep reading.
Perhaps proof of citizenship was shown when they served in the military?
Here is what he said from the transcript, referring to his father:
“Four years ago, I stood before you and told you my story of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren’t well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to.”
That was one of the worst trevsties of justice ever, especially when it is an elected official. I wonder why he doesn’t want it known, it shouldn’t make any difference where he was born, his mother was a US citizen. Something fishy here.
Thanks for the ping. Wow, 340 posts. That’s a lot to go through for such a “waste of time” issue that the trolls keep telling us.
“I am going to file this latest information under things that make you go, Hmm . . . .
Why don’t you file it under “ get off your A$$ and talk to your congresspersons!!!!!
Nobody will ever care what we collectively THINK.
The only thing that matters is what we DO.