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DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
World Net Daily ^ | October 4, 2008 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild

The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.

As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.

Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


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To: LegalEagle61

You are right on!!!! This is what the Lord has been showing me too. I say that not loosely but with SERIOUS backing of scripture. I also say it with absolute peace in my heart because ultimately, in the end, my KING is victorious!!!!


301 posted on 10/04/2008 1:31:59 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: Amityschild

Quite obvious even if Osama Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims (which I don’t believe), that citizenship was given up by his mother when an INDONESIAN citizen adopted him. He’s not a US citizen, naturalized or otherwise.


302 posted on 10/04/2008 1:38:49 PM PDT by RasterMaster (CHANGE is not a destination - HOPE is not a strategy!)
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To: Logical me
Anyone can easily get a birth certificate

Incorrect.

303 posted on 10/04/2008 1:39:48 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
And the DNC knows that very few in the USA will vote for someone with that name.

I agree with your premise. he was born in the U.S. but there is something on the birth certificate they don't want us to see.

304 posted on 10/04/2008 1:46:38 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: I got the rope

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

The birth of a child abroad to U.S. citizen parent(s) should be reported as soon as possible to the nearest American consular office for the purpose of establishing an official record of the child’s claim to U.S. citizenship at birth. The official record is in the form of a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America. This document, referred to as the Consular Report of Birth or FS-240, is considered a basic United States citizenship document. An original FS-240 is furnished to the parent(s) at the time the registration is approved.

REPORTING THE BIRTH

A Consular Report of Birth can be prepared only at an American consular office overseas while the child is under the age of 18. Usually, in order to establish the child’s citizenship under the appropriate provisions of U.S. law, the following documents must be submitted:

(1) an official record of the child’s foreign birth;
(2) evidence of the parent(s)’ U.S. citizenship (e.g., a certified birth certificate, current U.S.
passport, or Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship);
(3) evidence of the parents’ marriage, if applicable; and
(4) affidavits of parent(s)’ residence and physical presence in the United States.

In certain cases, it may be necessary to submit additional documents, including affidavits of paternity and support, divorce decrees from prior marriages, or medical reports of blood compatibility. All evidentiary documents should be certified as true copies of the originals by the registrar of the office wherein each document was issued. A service fee of $65 is prescribed under the provisions of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Section 22.1, item 9, for a Consular Report of Birth.


305 posted on 10/04/2008 1:53:43 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: RatsDawg

Isn’t it GREAT when the LIEberal DUmocrats eat their own!


306 posted on 10/04/2008 1:56:34 PM PDT by RasterMaster (CHANGE is not a destination - HOPE is not a strategy!)
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To: moose2004
naturalized US citizen.

Naturalized isn't enough, the Constitution specifies one must be a "natural-born" citizen.

307 posted on 10/04/2008 1:58:45 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: wastedyears

Assume ... nahhh ... He will CROWN HIMSELF.


308 posted on 10/04/2008 2:01:14 PM PDT by Freiherr
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To: anniegetyourgun

“Whose job is it to determine whether or not a candidate meets the constitutional test?...”

It appears to be the responsibility of Congress - both the Senate and House of Representatives.

Go to this link for the following explanation:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/berg-prepared-to-go-to-supreme-court/#comments

Arguments concerning qualifications or lack thereof can be laid before the voting public before the election and, once the election is over, can be raised as objections as the electoral votes are counted in Congress.

Federal legislation further details the process for counting electoral votes in Congress…..

The statute provides a mechanism for objections then to be registered and resolved: “[e]very objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made . . . shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision.”

The Twentieth Amendment further provides, “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified…

It is clear that mechanisms exist under the Twelfth Amendment and 3 U.S.C. 15 for any challenge to any candidate to be ventilated when electoral votes are counted, and that the Twentieth Amendment provides guidance regarding how to proceed if a president elect shall have failed to qualify.

My comment: this is not encouraging. Our way out of this mess may require that Republicans take back the House and the Senate.


309 posted on 10/04/2008 2:12:47 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: austinaero
I guess Jerome Coursi is in Kenya not only to see if he can scare up some BC evidence for BHMSO, but for evidence on what basis Barry could have claimed the Kenyan citizenship to which he has admitted on his website. If such Kenyan citizenship requires birth in Kenya, Barry's up a creek. If, as is more likely, he need only have been a son of Barack Sr., maybe that's how that unfolds, but perhaps there's interesting supporting paperwork on Barry Jr.'s filing to actually lay claim to Kenyan citizenship.

That Barry clearly has allegiances to one or more countries other than the US, be it Indonesia and/or Kenya, is contrary to the spirit--if not the letter--of the Constitutional requirement to be a natural born US citizen to be our President.

As Barry has admitted to falsifying his bar exam application and now we see incontrovertible evidence that his publicly-submitted BC was a fake, one surely doesn't have to cross any rickety bridge to see that 0bambi's experienced at deceit through documents. Why the @#&$%&! does anyone get a "do over" in such a situation, irrespective of an adjudication of where he was born or whether he's is a naturally-born US citizen???!?!?!

HF

310 posted on 10/04/2008 2:15:22 PM PDT by holden
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To: holden

Didn’t The One say in his “auto biography” that he ran across some old photographs and his birth certificate in his grandma’s attic, when he was about fifteen?

Sounds like he knew this would be a problem and was creating a legend for himself, like the Soviet spy masters did for their sleeper agents.


311 posted on 10/04/2008 2:23:16 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Shady Ray

bookmark


312 posted on 10/04/2008 2:27:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: austinaero

The scenario I created was of two American parents. Clearly, Obama’s dad was Kenyan (unless Jesse Jackson managed to nail her, also).


313 posted on 10/04/2008 2:28:01 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: realcleanguy
"Ze Gestapo vell never let you findze out ze twuth. Heil Obama!"

Sounding like a cross between Adolph Hilter, and Elmer Fudd...

314 posted on 10/04/2008 2:30:58 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: SatinDoll
submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision

Imagine a partisan affirmation for Obama's election despite obvious non-qualification! I would bet on two years of riots on the streets of every city, or until such time 0bambi were removed through impeachment! Out of fear for their very lives, I don't think a sufficient number of dhimmicRats would take it upon themselves to foist that Obamanation upon the country, but it wouldn't be the first time we've been disappointed in dhimmicrats, eh?

If the House Dhimms threw such back in our face, the legal challenges would be immediate and plentiful. The USSC would be forced to take up with issue within weeks, probably before Obambi ever took office. He would never be administered the Oath of office, and we'd have Biden for four years. He might get Hillary as his VP, in which case, he'd be spending so much time watching his back that every little of substance could get done.

With the dhims having defrauded the American public under this scenario, the public would allow very little Biden-Clinton-dhimCongress work to be enacted, under threat of power removal. They'd be scared into paralysis, hoping to be allowed to stay on. Alas, that won't restore their power to them after the 2010 midterm.

At the midterm election, the house and Senate would turn overwhelmingly Republican, and in 2012, the Palin/Jindal ticket would win by a landslide.

And God will continue to work in mysterious ways. That's assured!

HF

315 posted on 10/04/2008 2:38:04 PM PDT by holden
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To: Amityschild
I recall the MSM making comment regarding Palin and her passport. So the ONE must have a passport, right? You must verify U.S. citizenship to get a passport..right? Probably some kinda violation to use false information to verify citizenship..right? Probably a record somewhere establishing how citizenship was proven. The ONE did travel to Pakistan on a US passport, didn't he?
316 posted on 10/04/2008 2:40:03 PM PDT by Vladzred
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To: LucyT
Just heard on Fox that Palin is in Colorado and has started the attacks on Obama/Ayers, she is saying that Obama is paling around with terrorists and hitting hard and says the American people have the right to know! It is starting TODAY!!!!!

FINALLY!

317 posted on 10/04/2008 2:48:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Vladzred
At least two contractors were relieved of their State Department job and one State employee was demoted related to unauthorized perusal of BHMSO passport records. Surely a Republican with authorization knows whether there's anything in there that could bring Barry down!?

HF

318 posted on 10/04/2008 2:49:06 PM PDT by holden
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To: Steel Wolf

I can see it now... “it’s just sex” becomes “its just birth”


319 posted on 10/04/2008 2:49:59 PM PDT by wrhssaxensemble
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To: Logical me
Good thought, but means nothing. If Obama is President the first thing the RATS and he will do is issue an executive order exempting him that the President does not have to be a US Citizen.
Fortunately executive orders don't negate constitutional amendments.
320 posted on 10/04/2008 2:51:38 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Candor7
The electoral college votes AFTER the election, and it’s decision is reviewable by SCOTUS
You don't really think the DNC or the courts are going to disclose his ineligibility before the election inauguration do you?
321 posted on 10/04/2008 2:56:20 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The Electoral College will not declare McCain President,
I know, I never said they would.
322 posted on 10/04/2008 2:59:23 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: anniegetyourgun

The State, who pushes it onto the party heads in that state. The parties tell the state who is approved to go on the ballot.


323 posted on 10/04/2008 3:03:08 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (God Bless Sarah Palin and her Family.)
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To: omega4179
Biden would be proud to run with OR against McCain there is not a dimes difference between the parties anyway
That's why I didn't bother voting in the last presidential election.

That's why this time I'm voting Palin/McCain...

Before anyone wants to lecture me about who is at the top of the ticket I'll just say that it's the quickest way for Sarah Palin to get to where she should be.

I'll take 4 or more years of McCain before I'll take Brownshirt truth squads, Jeromiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Michell Obama and other anti-americans in the Whitr House, fairness doctrine, new government spending, government health care, ACORN expansion, higher taxes, the list is endless.

324 posted on 10/04/2008 3:10:49 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Logical me

Not from Hawaii you can’t. There are some real hoops to jump through. You have to be that person, in person, with proof or have a family member do it for you if you have all your ID stolen. ( I was born in Hawaii and had all my stuff stolen in a cross country move. So I know, I had to do it ) I now have a certified copy and it has a raised watermark and everything.


325 posted on 10/04/2008 4:15:04 PM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: border bud
So does that mean that the Congress will then get to pick who shall ACT as a President, or pick a President, or pick a process by which a President is chosen?

I believe the intent of that is if there is no clear winner in the Electoral College and Congress is deadlocked on deciding a winner. Assuming Obama wins the election, then a president would have been chosen by the electoral college. If Obama is then found ineligible then I think it would be treated the same as if he had died, and Biden would become President.

326 posted on 10/04/2008 4:39:08 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Or if Biden isn’t the VP at that point...we get Hildebeast.


327 posted on 10/04/2008 5:08:40 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Amityschild

obumpa


328 posted on 10/04/2008 5:08:50 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: AndyJackson

I don’t think his lawsuit is asking the FEC to do it. I think Berg is asking the court to do it, since nobody else will or claims to be charged with it.

WorldNetDaily.com quoted Berg as saying “The real outrage is that there’s nothing in our system that provides that a candidate must provide that his qualifications are true and correct before he or she runs, and that safeguard should be put into our system by law,” Berg said.

Maybe what we need is for a legislator to introduce that law to congress as a backup to Berg.


329 posted on 10/04/2008 5:10:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Amityschild

The DNC is a defendant.
Why wouldn’t they participate in the case?
I don’t understand what the concern is about their role.


330 posted on 10/04/2008 5:12:43 PM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: Amityschild

Getting curiouser and curiouser.

Birth certificates are easy to get, just ask any illegal immigrant.


331 posted on 10/04/2008 5:16:22 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: All
I have a feeling that we may be seeing one heck of an October surprise this time if these people like Jerome Corsi and Berg, and maybe even the GOP have some stuff that will devastate the Obama campaign.

I know they are going to start saying we are "swiftboating" but the thing is the swiftboat against Kerry and what will happen to Obama are true things---Obama's camp fabricates their stuff against McCain/Palin.

Lord above, please help us to defeat the evil Obama and the MSM who tries to protect him! Good will always prevail over evil!
332 posted on 10/04/2008 5:23:22 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: Logical me
... Obama will finish converting America

Don't forget tho, sometimes shi'ite happens . . .

333 posted on 10/04/2008 5:26:15 PM PDT by tomkat (support American craftsmanship)
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To: BIGLOOK
The entire Democrat ticket would be fraudulent and none of the electoral votes cast would count.

Joe Biden meets all of the qualifications to be President, so he can run to be the Vice President.

334 posted on 10/04/2008 5:30:11 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: tomkat

sunni or later shiite happens.


335 posted on 10/04/2008 5:38:17 PM PDT by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: NoGrayZone
I would think the both of them would be kicked out...and perhaps another election?

It makes sense since the guy who chose his as VP is essentially illegal himself. New candidate, new VP.

336 posted on 10/04/2008 5:42:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: moose2004
If it happened after Obama is sworn in, Biden would become POTUS.

If it happened before the Electoral College voted, they could vote for someone else entirely. With how it's done now I believe, but am not certain, they could not vote for Biden as POTUS. Another candidate would have to be chosen much like happened when Horace Greeley died and his electors split votes among different candidates. It didn't matter since Greeley was the loser. This year, however, it could matter. We could end up with Hillary installed as President.

If it happened after they voted and before the inauguration, the House could decide who should be president but they are limited to only the top 3 electoral vote getters. With Obama disqualified, McCain would surely be president and likely stuck with Biden as his VP.

337 posted on 10/04/2008 5:42:46 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA YES: Prop 4 - Family notification. NO (Bonds): 1A, 3, 12. Vote McCain/Palin.)
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To: DannyTN

Aren’t birth records public knowledge?


338 posted on 10/04/2008 5:48:42 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: newzjunkey
If it happened after they voted and before the inauguration, the House could decide who should be president but they are limited to only the top 3 electoral vote getters. With Obama disqualified, McCain would surely be president and likely stuck with Biden as his VP.

Biden would be Acting President, with Obama being essentially a figurehead. Section 3 of the 20th Amendment makes this clear.

339 posted on 10/04/2008 5:49:03 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Amityschild

I’m posting this blind cause, frankly there are too many GREAT comments to follow up on w/r Obama illigitimacy.

We are seeing a convergence of events that are being engineered by the media, the DNC, all the little actors - Soros, Pelosi,Reid, particularly Dean (notice he isn’t anywhere to be found), Immanual, -—— Oh Hell, lets just say the vast left wing conspirisy.
I’ll post later on my personal response to these commies.
And they are that!!!


340 posted on 10/04/2008 5:50:37 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Amityschild; All

Too many posters keep saying that all Hussein has to do is produce an authentic birth certificate—this is not the case; even if it can be proved that Hussein was born in Hawaii, Berg’s lawsuit points to a myriad of other disqualifying issues of dual or later exclusive foreign citizenship/divided loyalties/perjury/etc.

I encourage all to read Berg’s actual complaint to understand the issues involved in the case.

The founders’ intention was that POTUS be possesssed of UNDIVIDED LOYALTY to the United States, hence the natural born citizenship aspect. But Hussein has demonstrated in all of his words, writings, actions, Logan Act violations, associations and collaborations with anti-American figures over the years, that he is anything BUT loyal to America.


341 posted on 10/04/2008 5:53:45 PM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: SkyPilot

Wait! AFRICAN is not a race, but a geographic description. (See description of the father.) That was in 1961, BEFORE the era of political correctness. Therefore, the birth certificate is invalid!


342 posted on 10/04/2008 5:55:54 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: bossmechanic

I’m actually kinda surprised that Union members aren’t taking an interest in the Obama/communist issue. My experience with unions is that they are good well meaning folks that think their membership helps fair play in the work place. This Obama clown is much beyond that. He really want the proletariat(sp?)and their children to bow down to him. That should be morally offensive in the max.


343 posted on 10/04/2008 5:59:35 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: doug from upland

Obama himself said “I was born in Kenya and raised by a single mother” as part of his acceptance speech at the convention. I’m sure it’s on Youtube somewhere.


344 posted on 10/04/2008 6:04:16 PM PDT by Carol1010
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To: loreldan
Maybe I’m not up to speed...

No maybe about it. You're not up to speed on this. Keep reading.

345 posted on 10/04/2008 6:10:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
What proof did Bush or Kerry or Gore or any prior president provide?

Perhaps proof of citizenship was shown when they served in the military?

346 posted on 10/04/2008 6:11:29 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: Carol1010

Here is what he said from the transcript, referring to his father:

“Four years ago, I stood before you and told you my story — of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren’t well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to.”


347 posted on 10/04/2008 6:13:58 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: originalbuckeye

That was one of the worst trevsties of justice ever, especially when it is an elected official. I wonder why he doesn’t want it known, it shouldn’t make any difference where he was born, his mother was a US citizen. Something fishy here.


348 posted on 10/04/2008 6:15:13 PM PDT by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: Amityschild

Thanks for the ping. Wow, 340 posts. That’s a lot to go through for such a “waste of time” issue that the trolls keep telling us.


349 posted on 10/04/2008 6:18:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (McCain's learning from Palin how to win a national election. Palin's learning from him how to lose 1)
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To: Pride in the USA

“I am going to file this latest information under things that make you go, “Hmm . . . .”

Why don’t you file it under “ get off your A$$ and talk to your congresspersons!!!!!

Nobody will ever care what we collectively THINK.
The only thing that matters is what we DO.


350 posted on 10/04/2008 6:24:20 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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