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Is it time to think the unthinkable?
10/04/2008 | PhilosopherStones

Posted on 10/04/2008 12:50:01 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Make no mistake; we stand at the precipice of the greatest threat to the continued existence of our Republic since the Civil War. And no, I'm not talking about the financial crisis. We have reached a point where roughly half of Americans want us to lose a war, to remove the security methods that help keep us safe, to lay down before tyrants who wish to harm us, to stifle dissent and free speech, to remove our personal means of self-defense, to take away our choices in the things which concern ourselves and our families most.

Let us set aside for a moment the fact that the Obamassiah is unqualified, that he consorts with known terrorists, that he is the most Liberal candidate ever to win his party's nomination for President. No, let's concentrate on his supporters since without them, he'd still be organizing communities in Chicago.

His supporters attempt to stifle free speech by inundating phone lines whenever a radio talk show host attempts to discuss His Oiliness in other than laudatory terms. They file lawsuits against 527s who dare produce truthful ads about him. They shout down Conservatives on college campuses. They flood state electoral commissions with bogus voter registration forms hoping that some will get through by sheer numbers or by state corruption. In the dark of night, they vandalize the property of Conservatives, from slashing car tires to trashing campaign offices. They saturate the airwaves and media with vicious libels about Sarah Palin and her family.

Let's face it, his supporters don't want a President; they want a benevolent (to them) Dictator who will right all wrongs, soak the rich, lower the waters and heal the planet.

But don't believe me, here is one in his own words:

It's time to state something that we've felt for a long time but have been too polite to say out loud: Liberals, progressives, and Democrats do not live in a country that stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific, from Canada to Mexico. We live on a chain of islands. We are citizens of the Urban Archipelago, the United Cities of America.

Citizens of the Urban Archipelago reject heartland "values" like xenophobia, sexism, racism, and homophobia, as well as the more intolerant strains of Christianity that have taken root in this country. And we are the real Americans. They--rural, red-state voters, the denizens of the exurbs--are not real Americans. They are rubes, fools, and hate-mongers.

We're everywhere any sane person wants to be. Let them have the sh**holes, the Oklahomas, Wyomings, and Alabamas. We'll take Manhattan.

Seattle PI

So what can we do? Let's start by looking at who we are, and what resources we have available to us. Here's the electoral college vote by county from 2004. The Seattle moonbat was right: they live in little urban islands while we are free to sail the vast and productive red-county ocean.

They produce little, if anything, that we need. We produce everything that they need.

Somebody should do something
Earlier this year, I was at Happy Hour talking to my buddy who's a maintenance foreman at a North Bay sewage treatment plant. The Bay Area had just suffered through nine straight days of torrential rains, and the treatment plant, designed to process a maximum of 3.2 million gallons of water per hour was inundated with over 25 million gallons per hour. The choice was simple: let some of the water through into the Bay, or have sewage back up into the streets and houses of North Bay residents. A young lady of the typical San Francisco Liberal variety, overhearing our conversation said: “I can't believe you just dumped untreated sewage into the Bay!” I, ever helpful, suggested to the young lady that the next time we had nine straight days of torrential rains she could do her part by not pooping and not flushing. She was not amused: “Well somebody should've done something!”

When someone says “Somebody should do something”, we know exactly who they're talking about; they're talking about us. We are the ones who can design, build and run sewage treatment plants. We're the ones who can design, build and run ocean oil drilling platforms and combine harvesters and nuclear power plants.

We are the ones who mine the bauxite and process the aluminum for the tubes of their eco-friendly bicycles. We're the ones who research, design and build the solar panels and solar cells of their eco-friendly homes. We're the ones who research, design and build the batteries for their Priuses. We're the ones who coordinate the actions of thousands of producers around the world to build the computers from which they spew their poison.

They are the ones who would sit for a week in a sewage filled cesspool of an indoor stadium waiting for someone else to help rather than self-organizing to help themselves.

They are the ones who believe in their innate superiority because they can quote passages from James Joyce verbatim but who couldn't tune a carburetor or frame a house if their life depended on it.

They produce marketing plans and advertising slogans and video games and rap music and “cutting edge” web graphics and opaque financial instruments.

They produce nothing but words. The only power they have is the power of their speech. But their speech only has power if it causes us to act the way they want us to, and to continue to produce the goods for them that they need to survive. The time has come for us to stop our ears, to stop believing that they are well intentioned but naïve. They are not. They know precisely what they are doing, and hope fervently that we never figure that out.

They are like petulant teen-agers who whine about our rules and values while consuming the food, energy, clothing and other necessities that we provide. It's time for a grounding, a time-out, or even a spanking to make them appreciate that as long as they live in our house, they live by our rules.

We have seen once again with the bailout that DC has no problem taking the fruits of our productive labor and transferring them to the unproductive, the illegals, the liars and the slothful. This is how politicians remain in power.

It is time to say “Enough!”

As has been proved again and again whenever the power goes out at night in a major US city, the veneer of urban civility is shown to be only a couple of photons thick. So let us refuse to maintain their electrical power grid which is all that stands between a city of brotherly love and a city of unbrotherly anarchy.

Let us find other markets than the Urban Archipelago for our food. Let us refuse to repair their bridges and roadways. Let us reduce our dependence on foreign energy by keeping red state energy to ourselves: Alaskan and Texan and Gulf oil and gas. Coloradan oil shale, Montana oil fields. Let the cities give their money to the Sheiks and the Chavezes. It's what they want and what they deserve.

Liberals need Conservatives; Conservatives do not need Liberals.
We can grow our own food, butcher our own meat, drill our own oil, build our own houses and yes, even make our own coffee.

Let them eke out a precarious living taking in each others advertising jingles and high-priced, pseudo-Italian named cappuccinos.

So what would we lose by letting the Urban Archipelago go its own way?

Seattle? Redmond hasn't delivered an operating system or piece of software in more than a decade that his actually lived up to its hype.

Silicon Valley? Once the motor of the Information Revolution, now reduced to developing and trying to peddle clones of YouTube and MySpace, or ridiculously priced personal electronics robed in translucent white plastic.

LA? The porn capital of the world.

Detroit? We build better cars in Kentucky and Tennessee and (soon) Indiana.

NY? DC? Let them eat cake. But let's see how they do that when we're no longer around to harvest the eggs, grow the wheat, mill the flour, and process the sugar beets and cane that they need to bake it.

Let them have Whole Foods, we'll keep Wal-Mart and Piggly Wiggly. Let them keep their Starbucks and Barnes and Nobles and Abercrombie & Fitch. We'll keep the granges and the tack 'n' feeds and the grain silos and the cattle ranches and the Caterpiller and Peterbilt factories.

Let's see how long they can survive without the food we provide, without the goods we transport, without the raw materials that we mine, ore and process, without the power that we produce and maintain.

They keep threatening to move to Canada, though they never do. Why don't we just give them to Canada, lock, stock and barrel (or, since they don't like guns, “lox, Crate and Barrel”).

It's time to take back the power that we give them and which they use to enslave us. Time to take back the guns that we lend them and which they point at our heads.

We don't need them, and it's time they found that out.


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1 posted on 10/04/2008 12:50:02 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones

Who is John Galt?


2 posted on 10/04/2008 12:51:11 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I ain't gonna quit until I'm laid in my tomb and even then they better shut it tight.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Bookmarking to read later


3 posted on 10/04/2008 12:51:44 PM PDT by Purrcival (Palin runs Alaska. Obama runs his mouth.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Great post!!

Them that can, do.
Them that can’t, complain.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 12:53:29 PM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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To: PhilosopherStones

AWESOME POST.


5 posted on 10/04/2008 12:54:51 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Forget the 3AM phone call. Obama can not even answer the phone at 3PM.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Although, in defense of Seattle, there is that little airplane factory...

;-)


6 posted on 10/04/2008 12:54:54 PM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Be right with you Mr. Titor just gotta get off the couch.

-America home of the brave 1776-2008


7 posted on 10/04/2008 12:56:14 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Time to reforge these United States?


8 posted on 10/04/2008 12:57:22 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

I remember a year or so back the libtards over at the DU proposed a war against the red counties. It was kinda funny how clueless they were about what they would face from the natural world let alone the angry armed conservatives.


9 posted on 10/04/2008 12:57:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: PhilosopherStones

BTTT for later.


10 posted on 10/04/2008 12:58:11 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: PhilosopherStones

Read later tag


11 posted on 10/04/2008 12:58:28 PM PDT by Domandred (McWhathisname / Palin - 2008)
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To: PhilosopherStones

BTTT


12 posted on 10/04/2008 12:58:30 PM PDT by Covenantor ( Gov. Palin's on board, the fish fry has commenced.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We sure could use a little Ann Rand about now...and a few prayers for our republic.


13 posted on 10/04/2008 12:59:05 PM PDT by fabjr60 (I do not need your approval to honor my ancestors; Deo vindice)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Nice essay but comes up short on specifics. And although you don’t want to talk about it, our reps just approved the borrowing of 700B against our future productive capacity to prop up the blue region’s house of cards financial schemes.


14 posted on 10/04/2008 12:59:32 PM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: ClearCase_guy

used to be a big freeper here


15 posted on 10/04/2008 1:00:11 PM PDT by wardaddy (everyone has underestimated the media and their bias, it's killing us)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Excellent post. Thank you.


16 posted on 10/04/2008 1:01:08 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: PhilosopherStones

“They are like petulant teen-agers who whine about our rules and values while consuming the food, energy, clothing and other necessities that we provide.”

An excellent analogy to describe liberals.

Not to mention whining about the troops who provide security from being bombed, shot or beheaded.


17 posted on 10/04/2008 1:01:41 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (A liberal can never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

bttt


18 posted on 10/04/2008 1:03:12 PM PDT by comps4spice (Democrats caused the current financial mess. Do we really want to give them the Oval Office?)
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To: PhilosopherStones

As my tagline says - it’s past time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun. FRiends, America IS Galt’s Gulch. There’s no place else to go. We need to clean house, with everything that implies. Consider the alternative.


19 posted on 10/04/2008 1:03:33 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: djf

read later-


20 posted on 10/04/2008 1:04:02 PM PDT by okokie (40 days of Prayer and fasting to end abortion Sept 24-Nov 2 http://www.40daysforlife.com/splash.cfm)
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To: cripplecreek

They was saying some of the same things during the algore vote recount...talk of coups and totalitarianism etc but got real sober when reminded who had the guns and the support of the military!


21 posted on 10/04/2008 1:04:28 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (She has a stronger resume than Obama. She's been a real mayor, he hasn't. She has been a real govern)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Thank you. Bookmarking to read later


22 posted on 10/04/2008 1:06:48 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: palmer

“Nice essay but comes up short on specifics. And although you don’t want to talk about it, our reps just approved the borrowing of 700B against our future productive capacity to prop up the blue region’s house of cards financial schemes.”

I did mention the bailout later in the piece. Point is that it’s really nothing new. Just a continuation, as you say, of the transfer of productive wealth to the unproductive, sanctioned by almost 80 years of Federal policy.

As for specifics, I believe there is a clause somewhere in some Federal law which prohibits “advocating the violent overthrow of the the United States Government” (which, btw, would only be prosecuted against a Conservative, never a Liberal),

So I am absolutely NOT advocating the violent overthrow of the government of the United States. No way. No siree Bob!
Not at all.

Just to make that clear.


23 posted on 10/04/2008 1:07:17 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones
reject heartland "values" like xenophobia, sexism, racism, and homophobia

"xenophobia" = Patriotism

"sexism" = Gallantry

"racism" = Equality

"homophobia" = Common Decency

24 posted on 10/04/2008 1:09:15 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Thanks for reminding me why I am a US citizen, and why the leftist separatists are fascists.


25 posted on 10/04/2008 1:10:05 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Shhh.... ;-)


26 posted on 10/04/2008 1:12:56 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: reasonisfaith

Maybe if “Atlas” ever can get organized, he can “shrug”. The communists/socialists in this country are certainly good at using words to get organized and shackling poor old “Atlas”. “Atlas” was born saddled and bridled and ready for the Barney Franks, the Barack Obamas, the Franklin Raines, the Jamie Gorelicks, the Bill Clintons of the world.

I suppose we can revert to doing simple, necessary jobs and doing them well (like making good burgers) in the socialist world the parasites create and just quit financing their socialist schemes with the fruits of our over-achievement.


27 posted on 10/04/2008 1:14:22 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: PhilosopherStones

Outstanding essay. Absolutely outstanding. Screw these pusillanimous, supercilious, whiny little lib bastards. At the end of the day, all they produce is porn and misery, and we need none of it.

Let them starve, disease and die. Let them consume each other like th dirty cannibals that they are, because that is the fate that towards which they are ultimately headed. We just won’t be on the bus to hell with them.


28 posted on 10/04/2008 1:14:49 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: PhilosopherStones

By specifics I had in mind some sort of red area economic consortium that would keep our areas from getting sucked dry. Figuring out a legal way to do it will be a trick, but that’s what lawyers are for.


29 posted on 10/04/2008 1:15:16 PM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: PhilosopherStones

I think the united effort of both parties to essentially give away the store is far more signficant than anything that Obama would do. Obama is just one man, and even if he became president, would have no power over Congress and the Supreme Court, which are independent bodies.

You understand how our government works right?


30 posted on 10/04/2008 1:15:59 PM PDT by TrevorSnowsrap
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To: PhilosopherStones

Damn, you are my new hero for today. Y’all in freeperland need to start sending this out to everyone you know.


31 posted on 10/04/2008 1:17:44 PM PDT by musical_airman (totus vestri substructio es belong nobis)
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To: djf

That little Airplane factory is in Renton, yeah, but it’s the same county—still full of dingbats.


32 posted on 10/04/2008 1:21:34 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: PhilosopherStones

Ping for reference


33 posted on 10/04/2008 1:23:43 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: PhilosopherStones

States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. D.C. ($6.17)
2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)


34 posted on 10/04/2008 1:24:22 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (True, the ship is sinking... but the music is being played with such feeling!)
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To: PhilosopherStones

NICE!


35 posted on 10/04/2008 1:28:36 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (The Difference Between Palin and Obama is Common Sense, She's GOT IT, He DOESN'T)
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To: djf

Could be done in Wichita just as easy...


36 posted on 10/04/2008 1:29:39 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (I am not ....him!)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Who is John Galt?

http://www.freerepublic.com/~whoisjohngalt/


37 posted on 10/04/2008 1:29:51 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

That statistic is misleading. Some of those states have relatively tiny populations and relatively large Federal lands-Military bases or National Parks - (North and South Dakota, Alaska, Montana, New Mexico) for instance).

Others, Like West Virgina and Arkansas receive the largesse of their Democratic congress critters.


38 posted on 10/04/2008 1:30:47 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones
Gee, which silliness will win?

Or is it the same silliness seen from opposite angles?

39 posted on 10/04/2008 1:31:25 PM PDT by x
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To: PhilosopherStones
Already tried in Russia.
40 posted on 10/04/2008 1:31:31 PM PDT by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Great article...this says it all “Liberals need Conservatives; Conservatives do not need Liberals.”


41 posted on 10/04/2008 1:32:16 PM PDT by RC2
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To: PhilosopherStones
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42 posted on 10/04/2008 1:34:46 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: PhilosopherStones

http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/Gunkadink/?action=view&current=Obamaleader_0001.flv


43 posted on 10/04/2008 1:36:18 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: TrevorSnowsrap

Yes, which is why I began be stating explicitly that Obambi is not the problem. He’s just the symptom. The problem is the people who support him and others like him.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.” - Alexander Tyler

I believe that we have reached that tipping point.


44 posted on 10/04/2008 1:36:34 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones

An astute student of history and human nature, Thomas Jefferson, predicted what we see happening here in America. As ambassador in France, he witnessed the run up to the FIRST socialist/communist revolution there. He penned the following observations concerning what would happen HERE should that socialism come to the United States. He CORRECTLY predicted that we would become an increasingly contentious and litigious people as we shouldered one another out of the way to get OURS from the public trough and the trough would soon be empty.

He also knew where the bulk of the problem would originate.

That whirring noise you may hear coming from that mountain in Charlottesville, Virginia is Mr. Jefferson getting up to around 3600 RPM.

(A 6 minute video with this information may be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLu49pq3bI)

“The mobs of the great cities add just so much to the support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution.” —Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIX, 1782. ME 2:230

“I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.” —Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. Papers 12:442

“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” —Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173

“Our cities... exhibit specimens of London only; our country is a different nation.” —Thomas Jefferson to Andre de Daschkoff, 1809. ME 12:304

“Everyone, by his property or by his satisfactory situation, is interested in the support of law and order. And such men may safely and advantageously reserve to themselves a wholesome control over their public affairs and a degree of freedom which, in the hands of the canaille of the cities of Europe, would be instantly perverted to the demolition and destruction of everything public and private.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:401

“An insurrection... of science, talents, and courage, against rank and birth... has failed in its first effort, because the mobs of the cities, the instrument used for its accomplishment, debased by ignorance, poverty, and vice, could not be restrained to rational action. But the world will recover from the panic of this first catastrophe.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:402

“I fear nothing for our liberty from the assaults of force; but I have seen and felt much, and fear more from English books, English prejudices, English manners, and the apes, the dupes, and designs among our professional crafts. When I look around me for security against these seductions, I find it in the wide spread of our agricultural citizens, in their unsophisticated minds, their independence and their power, if called on, to crush the Humists of our cities, and to maintain the principles which severed us from England.” —Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:120


45 posted on 10/04/2008 1:39:04 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: PhilosopherStones

““A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.” - Alexander Tyler”

Fairly ironic since we see the exact *opposite* happening. The majority of voters seemed to be *against* the $700 (800) billion bailout but they have been ignored, as they have been ignored on so many other issues.

The system we have is based on representatives. The people are generally powerless.


46 posted on 10/04/2008 1:43:00 PM PDT by TrevorSnowsrap
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To: PhilosopherStones

Very interesting reading. Were you by chance Ayn Rand in a previous life?


47 posted on 10/04/2008 1:45:38 PM PDT by LakeLady (I was my mama's October surprise!!!! /Defeat Nobama /Bidet)
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To: PhilosopherStones

I am guessing you ARE advocating the spanking of the spoiled left and their metromentality.
Should, God forbid, the O become president, a spanking will be in order.


48 posted on 10/04/2008 1:48:56 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: palmer

A task left for better minds than mine.

But yes, something along those lines.

We need to bank in the overwhelming majority of regional banks which are not in any trouble because they didn’t get caught up playing with the big city boys.

We need to try to keep our produce and our products in our own regions. That may mean taking a financial hit iin the short run, but nothing like the one we are about to take with the bailout rape.

We need to weed the moonbats (and ourselves) off of what Sarah called the “Opium” - Other People’s Money.

We need to demand not just cash in exchange for value, but value in exchange for value. We currently exchange our labor for cash from moonbat land. In return, they offer us nothing but trash for the dollars we wish to spend. It’s a losing battle in the culture war.


49 posted on 10/04/2008 1:49:07 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: TrevorSnowsrap

“The system we have is based on representatives. The people are generally powerless.”

I would respectfully argue that our representatives are, unfortunately, precisely representative. The people chose to elect Nancy Pelosi, the impeached judge Alcyee Hastings, the manslaughterer Kennedy, the corrupt Dodd and Byrd, the pedophile Franks. And they stand ready now to elect the Chosen One, His Oiliness, the Obamassiah.

It’s not that our representatives have betrayed us, it is that half of our population betrays us each time they vote.


50 posted on 10/04/2008 1:54:55 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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