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Sarah Palin's opposition to bar crackdown surprised some (Trib complains she's not a religious nut)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 10/5/08 | Andrew Zajac and Bob Secter

Posted on 10/04/2008 6:29:13 PM PDT by Krankor

Sarah Palin may be the heroine of the religious right, but Rev. Gene Straatmeyer vividly recalls a public run-in he once had with the now Republican vice presidential candidate over clergy support for a crackdown on bars. It was August 1996, just weeks before Palin's election as mayor of tiny Wasilla, Alaska. And Straatmeyer, a local Presbyterian minister and head of two church coalitions, testified at a City Council hearing for a measure to shorten the traditional 5 a.m. last call by a few hours.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alcohol; drunkdriving; mayor; palin; palinrecord; wasilla; zoning
Of course, if she had voted to reduce the bars' hours, we'd be reading an article about how she imposed her evangelical temperance on the citizens of Wasilla. Strangely enough, the reporters don't mention any names when it comes to the theory a lot of the drunken drivers are from Anchorage. They don't even mention what time the bars close there. Nor do they quote any DUI statistics from similar sized Alaskan towns with shorter bar hours. Oddly enough, if Sarah sold her soul for a campaign contribution from the bar owners, wouldn't she make sure the DUI arrests went down? And I can understand how people who drive to bars contribute to drunken driving, but how does that affect spousal abuse? If the bars close at 3, the abusive husband can still go home, drink more and beat his wife.
1 posted on 10/04/2008 6:29:13 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Krankor

bad link


2 posted on 10/04/2008 6:31:01 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Krankor

More handiwork of the winged monkeys. 1996? What was Obama or Biden doing in 1996????


3 posted on 10/04/2008 6:31:03 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Krankor

I get “page not found” when I try your link.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 6:31:43 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Krankor

“Of course, if she had voted to reduce the bars’ hours, we’d be reading an article about how she imposed her evangelical temperance on the citizens of Wasilla.”

Exactly. She chose the correct path IMO. She let the bars make the decision. Pro-business, pro-freedom. Exactly as it should be.


5 posted on 10/04/2008 6:32:21 PM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: Krankor
30 smear-merchant lawyers and this all they come up with?

Color me disappointed. LoL!

6 posted on 10/04/2008 6:32:35 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat--gateway ideology to Communism / It's the Revolution, Stupid!)
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To: Krankor

People drink in Alaska?

I thought Alaska was a right wing Christian Theocracy (at least that’s what they told me at DK and DU).


7 posted on 10/04/2008 6:32:43 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Hey B. Hussein, are you going to prosecute me now?)
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To: Krankor

Well, Governor Palin shot down in flames another myth: that normal people who take their religion and moral standards seriously, neither have to wear their religion on their sleeve, nor lose sight of the fact that, in our system, the religious and secular universes can coexist, separately and peacefully, thankyouverymuch!


8 posted on 10/04/2008 6:32:56 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: teletech
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-palin-alcoholoct05,0,7731371.story
9 posted on 10/04/2008 6:33:46 PM PDT by Krankor (Are you claiming you eat toucans or)
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To: TheZMan

She really does keep her religious views to herself and doesn’t allow them to interfere with her governance.


10 posted on 10/04/2008 6:33:54 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat--gateway ideology to Communism / It's the Revolution, Stupid!)
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To: Krankor

This is called “rational thought”. You can hold religion in your heart and accept and believe that your religious beliefs don’t belong imposing on the freedom of others.

That is an idea the left just cannot grasp.


11 posted on 10/04/2008 6:36:16 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Publius6961

that’s the type of person mccain wants for the SC


12 posted on 10/04/2008 6:37:16 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Betcha they're good. Why shouldn't they be? Their one mistake was giving up me!)
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To: autumnraine
That is an idea the left just cannot grasp.

That's because their liberalism is their religion.

13 posted on 10/04/2008 6:38:08 PM PDT by pray4liberty (The Lord is on the side of the truly righteous.)
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To: Krankor

You know I know a local minister who is a big religious conservative and he had a disagreement with our secularist mayor about banning alcohol on the Boise river, with the miniister believing it should be legal to drink and the liberal mayor disagreeing.


14 posted on 10/04/2008 6:38:32 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Podcast: The Truth and Hope (http://www.truthandhope.2truth.com))
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To: autumnraine

Gee whiz!

30 investigators and lawyers?

The mountain moved and produced a mouse.

Sarah must be the cleanest politician of all time. They can’t find anything!!

It is to laugh.


15 posted on 10/04/2008 6:41:03 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Krankor

The left has no feel for faith and I presume they think we conservatives are shallow and pious. But what they don’t get is that we are certainly against killing babies and redefining marriage. Sara Palin is a rock and very gifted and reasonable. Unlike Obama who is a fake and a fraud pretending to be religious, but liberals know that, which is why they accept him and reject Sara.


16 posted on 10/04/2008 6:41:20 PM PDT by street_lawyer (Truth is a defense and the best offense.)
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To: TheZMan

“She chose the correct path IMO. She let the bars make the decision. Pro-business, pro-freedom. Exactly as it should be.”

Yes, indeed. A conservative does not “crackdown” on bars. That is something a Social-Engineering-Nanny-Stater does. Thank heavens Sarah Palin knows the difference between the two!


17 posted on 10/04/2008 6:41:57 PM PDT by NCPAC ("Libertarianism is the heart and soul of conservatism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Krankor

The Tribune is losing money like mad and they waste two reporters and two expense accounts on this tripe?


18 posted on 10/04/2008 6:43:25 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Krankor

I may never stop being amazed at how these hit pieces evaporated for a week or so. I guess she really did win the debate.


19 posted on 10/04/2008 6:45:58 PM PDT by redk
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To: Publius6961
the religious and secular universes can coexist, separately and peacefully

Of course you mean we can live peacefully, but unfortunately liberals can't do that because they are so filled with hatred towards the religious right.

20 posted on 10/04/2008 6:46:02 PM PDT by street_lawyer (Truth is a defense and the best offense.)
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To: Krankor

The liberal media just doesn’t really have a clue. Now they expect her to rally against bars? That’s not who she is. She’s normal, and they don’t understand normal.


21 posted on 10/04/2008 6:46:05 PM PDT by meyer (Go, Sarah, Go!!)
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To: autumnraine
This is called “rational thought”. You can hold religion in your heart and accept and believe that your religious beliefs don’t belong imposing on the freedom of others.

That is an idea the left just cannot grasp.

Darn, you beat me to it. Actually, the Left believes the opposite--they want to impose their preferences on us.

22 posted on 10/04/2008 6:46:10 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: NCPAC

The horror the horror the horror. She kept the bars open.
The woman has no shame!! /S She has my vote!

‘A dry martini,’ he said. ‘One. In a deep champagne goblet.’ ‘Oui, monsieur.’

‘Just a moment. Three measures of Gordon’s, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until it’s ice-cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon peel. Got it?’

‘Certainly monsieur.’ The barman seemed pleased with the idea


23 posted on 10/04/2008 6:49:48 PM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: HokieMom

What was Obama doing in 1996?

He was SUEING CITIBANK FOR NOT GIVING MORE LOANS TO PEOPLE With BAD CREDIT - Really.


24 posted on 10/04/2008 6:50:22 PM PDT by motoman
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To: Krankor
Another "Sarah Palin is a bad Christian" opinion piece disguised as a news article.

Can't you just hear the Chicago Trib editor saying, "Hey, I know this piece amounts to nothing, but we have to do SOMETHING to damage Caribou Barbie's reputation with her feeble minded Jesus-freak followers."

25 posted on 10/04/2008 6:51:48 PM PDT by TChad
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To: rvoitier
30 smear-merchant lawyers and this all they come up with?

The best part is the money spent to acquire such importanat information.

26 posted on 10/04/2008 6:52:18 PM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: motoman

Bet you learned that here on Free Republic and not in the Chicago Tribune, the Washington Post or the NYT? Not much delving into the Chicago records of one Barack Hussein Obama from the liberal media, is there. It’s like the media all want to be the counter to conservative talk radio instead of maintaining their professional journalistic integrity.


27 posted on 10/04/2008 6:54:12 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Krankor
This is a complete non issue of course. Never been to AK but 5:00 am is late by Los Angles standards!LOL
28 posted on 10/04/2008 6:55:19 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: relictele
Apparently they left something out of the story. The reporters write:
John Hartrick, one of two council members at the time to back Stambaugh's initiative, said he was struck by the contrast between Palin's vote and the strong anti-drinking tenets of her Pentecostal denomination. It "just bugged the devil out of me," said Hartrick, who now lives in Salem, Ark.
According to Wikepedia, Hartrick is the man she defeated in 1992 when she first ran for the City Council
29 posted on 10/04/2008 6:55:43 PM PDT by Krankor (Are you claiming you eat toucans or)
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To: Boiling Pots

I am willing to bet you that Sarah Palin would sit down and have a beer with you on an NFL Sunday.


30 posted on 10/04/2008 7:03:48 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (GO Sarah Palin !)
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To: Krankor

This is new attack, try to separate McCain and Palin form the base.


31 posted on 10/04/2008 7:04:11 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)
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To: Perdogg

I am from the hills of Southeastern Ohio. We are all Reagan Democrats. Most of us have Christian beliefs. ....and most of us drink.

LOL

The Chicago Tribune is so out of touch.


32 posted on 10/04/2008 7:08:12 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (GO Sarah Palin !)
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To: MilspecRob

“Never been to AK but 5:00 am is late by Los Angles standards!”

I imagine that when it gets sorta’ dark in Anchorage around 3 am in the summer it might make a bit more sense. Lots of folks up there will say “Sleep? I’ll sleep this winter!”


33 posted on 10/04/2008 7:10:12 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: meyer

That have had 30 Lawyers up there digging for a month. and this is the only sh*t they can come up with ?

Sarah Palin refused to shut down a bar ?

That would make her a HERO in Southern Ohio !


34 posted on 10/04/2008 7:16:12 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (GO Sarah Palin !)
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To: TheZMan

We have a PRESIDENTIAL candidate with ties to radical terrorists like William Ayers, we have Tony Rezko who did his deals with the Dem governor. We have the Rev. Wright and his “black liberation theology” and a church that Barack attended for 20 years, and they want to talk about a dispute about the hours a bar was open for business in Alaska. This is just unbelievable. And she is NOT running for President! I am appalled at the Obama media machine that has absolutely NO INTEREST in the things that should concern them about Barack Obama and yet they fall all over themselves over a silly story like this.


35 posted on 10/04/2008 7:34:36 PM PDT by rtbwood
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To: Perdogg

Only if the morons at The Trib think McCain/Palin’s base is a bunch of anal retentive Nanny-Staters!


36 posted on 10/04/2008 7:37:21 PM PDT by NCPAC ("Libertarianism is the heart and soul of conservatism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Krankor

Given the extreme changes in sunlight in Alaska over the year I am left wondering what the point of moving a closing time would be. To her this might be less of a religious or drunk driving issue than an Alaskan issue.


37 posted on 10/04/2008 8:46:30 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 21twelve
I imagine that when it gets sorta’ dark in Anchorage around 3 am in the summer it might make a bit more sense. Lots of folks up there will say “Sleep? I’ll sleep this winter!

The nights may be short but their centre is still midnight

3AM the Sun is on the way up.

38 posted on 10/04/2008 11:05:41 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: Oztrich Boy

“Here to Help”

Thanks!! (duh!)


39 posted on 10/04/2008 11:28:00 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: HokieMom

You are correct, my friend. Free Republic has become my source of any and all news/current events. Nothing compares. Whether the news is good or bad for conservatives, you will at least find it all here and each story has plenty of commentary to help check with your own understanding of the issue. I still use other on-line sources, but none compare to the speed, scope, and fact checking of what you get here.


40 posted on 10/05/2008 3:58:57 AM PDT by motoman
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