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High School's Ban of American Flags Has Students Outraged
Hollister, CA FreeLanceNews ^ | Oct 1, 2008 | Jeff Gatlin

Posted on 10/05/2008 6:45:47 PM PDT by auzerais

High School's Ban of American Flags Has Students Outraged Oct 1, 2008 By Jeff Gatlin

San Benito High School students Jared Ballinger, left, and Abraham Enriquez were told they could not fly the flag on campus. Photo by: Nick Lovejoy, The Free Lance

HOLLISTER, CA

San Benito High School senior Jared Ballinger, who has completed basic training in the Army Reserve's Alternate Training Program and is set to finish advanced training after graduation, was driving around the campus parking lot this week with an American flag flying from the back of his truck when a school counselor flagged him down.

"I was told that flying any kind of flag, even the flag of the United States of America, wasn't allowed," said Ballinger, also noting that a school resource officer pulled up behind and took down his license plate number.

Ballinger said he's been told recently he couldn't wear a T-shirt displaying the American flag as well.

"That's where I draw the line," Ballinger told the Free Lance on Tuesday.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ban; ca; education; flag; hollister; oldglory; publikskoolz; respect; respecttheflag
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Came across this article while surfing 'StumbleUpon' website. Haven't seen anything about this in any other SF/BayArea MSM.
1 posted on 10/05/2008 6:45:48 PM PDT by auzerais
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To: auzerais

More of the “New Direction” Amerika!


2 posted on 10/05/2008 6:46:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim.)
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To: auzerais

When is this madness gonna stop?


3 posted on 10/05/2008 6:47:09 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom I know McCain couldnÂ’t answer her in a flippant way, but IF HE COULD it would have nice to)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Shut the bloody school down!


5 posted on 10/05/2008 6:48:45 PM PDT by jimfree (Dems beat up girls who don't toe the line.)
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To: auzerais

I guess students don’t learn about the 1st amendment at that institution.


7 posted on 10/05/2008 6:50:03 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Rep. Thaddeus McCotter is my hero.)
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To: auzerais
San Benito County Office of Education Superintendent Tim Foley told the Free Lance it's a complex issue

Flying the American Flag could only be a "complex issue" in the head of a school administrator.

8 posted on 10/05/2008 6:50:46 PM PDT by wbill
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To: auzerais
Kids can display these flags inappropriately, and it can be disrespectful," she summarized. "However, it is not the action of displaying the flag itself - it is the reaction that inappropriate display can bring."

Then deal with the REACTION, not the flag, you lazy putz!

9 posted on 10/05/2008 6:51:28 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: al baby
When is this madness gonna stop?

When we get off our asses and take to the streets. 

10 posted on 10/05/2008 6:51:53 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (War is sometimes necessary for weeding out the horrifically stupid.)
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To: Baynative

In our PC world, they can’t stop one without stopping them all.

BULL SHTTTTTTTTTT.

This is the USA. If you want to fly a Mexican flag ..go to Mexico.
Enough of this crap.
We really need to fight and stop accepting this as PC norm. NO MORE!!!!!!!!!
Writing to the school.


11 posted on 10/05/2008 6:53:02 PM PDT by donnab (some people use change to promote their careers...others use their careers to promote change.)
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To: JoJo Gunn

california is dying right in front of our eyes. the land Reagan loved is almost unrecognizable.

no mom and dad in school, la raza schools............

jeezzzzzzzzz


12 posted on 10/05/2008 6:53:03 PM PDT by TurtleStink
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It might be a real good idea to cross train in weapons.

A gun is good, but knowing a half dozen different weapons is not a bad idea.

These kids dressed in fatigues convey a special type of meaning.

I think we need to have the right to have a white month, just like the blacks have a black month..


14 posted on 10/05/2008 6:53:38 PM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: auzerais

I teach in a private school in Texas. One of our new students, a girl from California, told us that she was not allowed to say “one nation under God” at her old school while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.


15 posted on 10/05/2008 6:54:02 PM PDT by freedom4me (No compromise w/ the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact w/ unrepentant wrong. --Churchill)
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To: wbill
San Benito High School senior Jared Ballinger, who has completed basic training in the Army Reserve's Alternate Training Program and is set to finish advanced training after graduation, was driving around the campus parking lot this week with an American flag flying from the back of his truck when a school counselor flagged him down.
"I was told that flying any kind of flag, even the flag of the United States of America, wasn't allowed," said Ballinger, also noting that a school resource officer pulled up behind and took down his license plate number.


Looks like the "counselor" and the "resource officer" are a couple of the undead that were missed by Gen Patton in "An American Carol".
16 posted on 10/05/2008 6:54:56 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: wbill

“Superintendent Tim Foley, just what part of the American Flag do you find offensive, threatening, provocative, vulgar, displays tobacco, alcohol or drug advertising, or displays profanity, racial slurs, or has images of gang-related symbols is disruptive to the educational process and may not be worn.”

I know I for one spent 20 years defending that flag and all that it stands for...so, Mr. Superintendent Tim Foley...I’m curious...please enlighten us.


17 posted on 10/05/2008 6:55:13 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: donnab

It is time to organize. Do it smartly.

Remember there are blacks who think just like us. Make sure they are included. It is not race, it is idealogy.

Just because the black racists hold sway it is no reason to judge all blacks like the Farakhan types. The Farakhan types are pigs and will burn in hell. They won’t get 72 virgins, they will get 72 Virginians.


18 posted on 10/05/2008 6:57:56 PM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: auzerais

ping for later response.


19 posted on 10/05/2008 6:58:08 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: al baby
"When is this madness gonna stop? "

I'm sure you know the answer to that question...but are reluctant to say it.

It's going to stop when we - loyal Americans - step up and put a stop to it.

The forefathers didn't say, "When is this going to stop." when we were putting up with crap from the English.

The whole world has always wondered what America's secret for success is...well, it's got a lot to do with a great system of government and an astounding document called the Constitution...but included in all that is the American spirit...including we don't take no $h!t from nobody.

In the last 50 years, we seem to be wimping out by our only kryptonite..."greed". We don't want to leave our warm, comfy recliners and turn off "Friends" long enough to see what is happing around this country.

The great outpouring of American flags after 9-11 was great, but it faded pretty quick and wound up being a "symbolism over substance" act of defiance.

Now I realize mayber it's not time to turn our plows into swords yet and hit the streets, but we need a blast of hell-raising by phone, fax, email, mail and in person visits with the elected officials.

We need to get behind the "incumbents OUT" movement at the elections. If you and I did at our jobs, what our elected representatives are doing at theirs...we would FIRED.

Remember that title...they are OUR REPRESENTATIVES. Do you think they are really representing us? I think they are representing everyone BUT us...and it's time that they all go home.

We are sitting on our collective a$$e$ and allowing the congress and the media to build a "ruling class" in America. How long before America is a dictatorship? If Mr. socialist - Obama gets elected, along with a democratic congress, and...he stacks the supreme court, then he will have the unlimited power to be the Hugo Chavez of America.

Don't be whining and mad AFTER he get's elected, do something now...anything to stop it. McCain is a jerk, and he's pissed me off a couple of times with his bills, and I ain't crazy about the bailout deal either...with all of that is a walk in the park compared to what Hussein Obama will do in office.
20 posted on 10/05/2008 7:00:11 PM PDT by FrankR (Liberalism is communism, by the drink. O'Rourke)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

Um where did your reply come from?

Was that to me?


21 posted on 10/05/2008 7:03:52 PM PDT by donnab (some people use change to promote their careers...others use their careers to promote change.)
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To: auzerais

WOW! Isn’t Hollister a big biker town? Not sure how well this is going to go over with them! ;)


22 posted on 10/05/2008 7:06:02 PM PDT by BossLady (Say it aint so ...Joe.....)
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To: JoJo Gunn
When we get off our asses and take to the streets.

Wishful think'in there, pardner.

23 posted on 10/05/2008 7:06:42 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: auzerais

San Benito High School senior Jared Ballinger, who has completed basic training in the Army Reserve’s Alternate Training Program and is set to finish advanced training after graduation, was driving around the campus parking lot this week with an American flag flying from the back of his truck when a school counselor flagged him down.
“I was told that flying any kind of flag, even the flag of the United States of America, wasn’t allowed,” said Ballinger, also noting that a school resource officer pulled up behind and took down his license plate number.

Just a case where 2 a$$holes need a good ass whooping and problen solved.
If I had a kid going to this school (Never happen all family members home school or private school) I would buy him a car and have the entire car painted as the American Flag have it licensed and registered and then the school could stuff it sideways...


24 posted on 10/05/2008 7:06:43 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Vote FOR AMERICA . Vote McCain / Palin)
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To: auzerais

Real Easy solution. School does not allow the American Flag, the taxpayers do not allow any Federal money to go to the school.


25 posted on 10/05/2008 7:09:30 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Vote FOR AMERICA . Vote McCain / Palin)
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To: Morgana
Now now Dear.....remember that these are public school teachers......they are simpletons after all.

Oh, right...silly me. Nevermind... ;o)

26 posted on 10/05/2008 7:09:35 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: auzerais
If they find the USA FLAG so offensive then I'd suggest the following to be implemented against them immediately:

1. Deportation to another country OUTSIDE of the USA (preferably to the furthest away from the USA and also very hot or very cold climate)

2. Immediately stripping them of ALL funds they earned/stole or gathered by any means while in the USA - they hate they flag so remove everything containing the flag forthwith.

3. Immediately stripping them of ALL assets the gained while in the USA (investments, properties, cars, real estates, etc).

They hate the USA so why bother even touch anything we have to offer and why be a drain to our resources? We have enough leeches here as it is, we dont need any foreign ones, esp those that hate this country.

The USA have been taken for granted by the entire ungrateful world for too long. We have become the much-hated 'policeman', the 'Meals on Wheels' and 911 for all emergencies created by other countries and except for a handful of countries (UK, Israel) they view the USA as a big fat teat to be suckled dry.

27 posted on 10/05/2008 7:11:16 PM PDT by prophetic (God, let Obama speak utter foolishness and confound the wisdom of his counselors)
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To: Digger
Wishful think'in there, pardner.

Well, we wouldn't want a little show of backbone to interrupt our American Idol experience, now would we? 

28 posted on 10/05/2008 7:12:37 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (War is sometimes necessary for weeding out the horrifically stupid.)
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To: FrankR
"When is this madness gonna stop? :" It's going to stop when we - loyal Americans - step up and put a stop to it. The forefathers didn't say, "When is this going to stop." when we were putting up with crap from the English.

I like your style. Maybe there are just the 2 of us because I find no one that wants to be bother with active participation. An E-Mail makes them feel like they did their duty.

29 posted on 10/05/2008 7:13:09 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: RedRover

Defend Our Troops interest....future troops.


30 posted on 10/05/2008 7:18:12 PM PDT by lilycicero (www.defendourtroops.org)
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To: auzerais

Typical “American” administrators: “Pecker/pussy, si; patriotism, NO!”


31 posted on 10/05/2008 7:22:17 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: auzerais
The article goes onto report the wayward youth must atone for his crime by attending the school sponsored muslim sensitivity training for the remainder of his high school years.
32 posted on 10/05/2008 7:22:17 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Morgana

“Now now Dear.....remember that these are public school teachers......they are simpletons after all. What more do you expect? You have to teach them how to fly the flag properly because they have not been taught this.”

Make that administrators. Those that spent short time or NO time in a classroom.

And just FYI there are many teachers who know how to fly the flag properly.


33 posted on 10/05/2008 7:31:16 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Morgana

Careful - not ALL public school teachers are simpletons. I teach in a public school in Arizona. Our school PROUDLY flies an American Flag in the front of the school - I have a flag in my classroom and we recite the pledge every morning - including “one nation under God”. We hold a 9-11 Remembrance Ceremony every year on 9-11. There are conservatives in the public school system (although a minority). They’ll have to fire me if they tell me NOT to fly the American Flag or not say “One Nation Under God”.

I use to live in California - Davis, CA no less - a cesspool of liberal lies and disinformation. The PC Police are less active in Arizona - (thank God).


34 posted on 10/05/2008 7:43:43 PM PDT by jazztrptman (Sarah Palin is a God-send for our country and for conservatives)
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To: auzerais

http://www.sbhsd.k12.ca.us/home/staffphonelist_2007-08.pdf

San Benito High School
District superintendent Antonio G. Limon

http://www.sanbenito.k12.tx.us/video/images/limon4.jpg

School to ban use of cities, other logos in stricter dress code

Concerns about an increase in the gang-related attire worn by the nearly 3000 students at San Benito High School this week prompted the


35 posted on 10/05/2008 7:43:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: wbill

It would be a lot more complex if the those that could not contain their rage could be singled out and punished. But then some uncomfortable statistical truths might become evident.

If you can’t show respect for the American flag in an American classroom, leave the country.


36 posted on 10/05/2008 7:45:11 PM PDT by chesley (I'm still alive, still employed, & still married. Life is GOOD)
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To: auzerais

The school site is here... http://www.sbhsd.k12.ca.us/

Their home page has an American flag in the upper right corner. I would immediately demand the school remove the flag from that website.

Then I would sue them on the grounds that their school mascot (the Haybalers) is an insult to farmers and a racist stereotype. I would also demand the dissolution of the French and Spanish clubs (racist) and their Mecha chapter (racist). Then I would demand fully integrated sports teams, men and women, along with co-ed bathrooms. To do otherwise would be sexist. Then I would start holding protests outside the homes of the priciple and the school board members. TV cameras would be invited. I’d make them famous by making them live by their own twisted world view.

This game is easy to play.


37 posted on 10/05/2008 7:45:44 PM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: al baby
When is this madness gonna stop?

As soon as our fellow citizens discover the medicinal qualities of tar and feathers.

38 posted on 10/05/2008 7:55:32 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: auzerais

Investigate the teachers. There is still a ban on Communists working in the California school system.

They want to be anti-American in their policies? Perhaps there should be an investigation into their own politics.


39 posted on 10/05/2008 8:06:45 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: auzerais

I only read a dozen comments but all of them were pro flag.

http://hollister.disqus.com/hollisterfreelancecom_high_schools_ban_of_american_flags_has_students_outraged_77/


40 posted on 10/05/2008 8:09:10 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: auzerais

The schools ban the American flag, but they take the American funding, don’t they?


41 posted on 10/05/2008 8:17:40 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("Stand up, Chuck!")
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To: auzerais

“Ballinger said he’s been told recently he couldn’t wear a T-shirt displaying the American flag as well.”

THIS HAS GONE WAY TOO FAR! WE ARE AMERICANS IN AMERICA FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! RAISING TAXES- SOCIALISM; AMERICAN FLAG - PATIOTISM” Let’s get it right people!


42 posted on 10/05/2008 8:36:04 PM PDT by Godsgirl
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To: BossLady

It seems Hollister got the repubation as a biker town following an infamous rally by hundreds of motorcyclists in 1947, some of whom rioted after getting drunk and rowdy. The rally inspired a number of biker movies over the years.


43 posted on 10/05/2008 8:41:11 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: TurtleStink
...the land Reagan loved is almost unrecognizable.

Reagan was a Californian and did love California.

But the land he loved more was the United States of America.

Look around you, the problem isn't just in California, it's in every state.

Take a look at your own state and see what you can do to fix the same problems there.

You know you can fly the flag of your state on your Free Republic page.

44 posted on 10/05/2008 8:43:35 PM PDT by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Syncro
Reagan was a Californian and did love California.

Actually, he was a downstate Illinois boy who never lost his downstate accent.

45 posted on 10/05/2008 8:44:37 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: Digger
Maybe there are just the 2 of us because I find no one that wants to be bother with active participation.

There are hundreds (if not thousands) that have in the past and will in the future participate actively.

The first Friday of each month the Fresno/Central Valley chapter of Free Republic go to a corner in Fresno to support the troops and our country.

There are many other examples, but I'm sure you get the drift.

46 posted on 10/05/2008 8:51:57 PM PDT by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Clemenza

Yes he was.

He moved to California in the thirties, and made it his home.

I stand by my statement, Ronald Reagan was a Californian.

Thanks for the input.


47 posted on 10/05/2008 8:56:05 PM PDT by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: auzerais
It would be great if some patriotic body shop would offer to paint the truck in a flag design, USA of course, and see what the school says then.
48 posted on 10/05/2008 8:56:20 PM PDT by SledgeCS (Build the fence. Deport the Illegals. Sell all their assets to cover the cost.)
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To: Syncro

Yes, RR did love his adopted home state, but certain friends of mine in Illinois will forever claim him. :)


49 posted on 10/05/2008 8:57:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: Fiji Hill

We had Street Vibrations here a couple weeks ago in Reno, NV and I saw many bikers here with ‘Hollister’ leather vests on....so just wondered.... ;)


50 posted on 10/05/2008 8:59:20 PM PDT by BossLady (Say it aint so ...Joe.....)
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