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Panic: S&P down over 6%, Dow down over 5%
Bloomberg Terminal | 10/6/08 | Me

Posted on 10/06/2008 7:45:09 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo

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To: Norman Bates
This is an orchestrated collapse

I'm starting to believe you're right.
41 posted on 10/06/2008 7:55:06 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("And how can this be? For I am the Kwisatz Haderach! " - Barack Obama)
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Yep. A Muslim Marxist as President is the final straw before the Gates of Hell are unleashed.

Socialism, no wire taps, liberal SCOTUS, Fairness Doctrine, High Taxes.

The only hope would be the 2010 elections, but that will be too late.


42 posted on 10/06/2008 7:55:22 AM PDT by Wilder Effect
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To: Thane_Banquo
Australian dollar off almost 8.6% on the day against the USD.

It's the collapse of the commodities bubble. Australia's economy is dominated by commodities as well as Russia's. I imagine Canada isn't doing too well either.

43 posted on 10/06/2008 7:55:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: unixfox

Uh, yes, in fact it is.

If this were just limited to one market, it wouldn’t be a “sky is falling” situation.

But the markets all over the world are selling off hard, and there’s no resolution in sight to the banking crisis.

Too many people here on FR kept thinking that the signs in the markets for the last year were MSM doom-n-gloom. Some of us kept telling people here that they should be looking at the bond markets, that there were bad, bad signs out there.

Some people were banned from FR because they were deemed too “doom-n-gloom” and alarmist.

Well, get ready for President Obama, because what you’re seeing is a for-real market crash. Stocks, bonds, commodities, you name it. Everything is being sold and sold hard. McCain clearly is out of his depth on this issue and just hasn’t a clue how to respond.

What you’re seeing is a deflation as a result of de-leveraging. If this isn’t turned around soon and consumers are convinced to spend, you will see at least a very bad recession.


44 posted on 10/06/2008 7:55:50 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Wilder Effect
Socialism, no wire taps, liberal SCOTUS, Fairness Doctrine, High Taxes.

Oh there will be wire taps, count on it....

45 posted on 10/06/2008 7:55:53 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Back in the USSA)
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To: Perdogg
Obama’s fire in the Reichstag continues
46 posted on 10/06/2008 7:55:53 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Thane_Banquo

Perfect, make the dollar more worthless as well. The dollar is the only thing going for us today. One might begin to think they are deliberately trying to tank us...


47 posted on 10/06/2008 7:56:10 AM PDT by thecabal (Conservatives who don't live up to the liberal caricature are now hypocrites.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I agree.

This was all set up by Soros , Peter Lewis, and Bufett.


48 posted on 10/06/2008 7:56:17 AM PDT by Wilder Effect
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To: frankenMonkey
Me... I'm buying up some great bargains this morning.

Sounds like a "Fire Sale".
49 posted on 10/06/2008 7:56:36 AM PDT by Sopater (The left taketh, and the left giveth away...)
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To: Moonman62

Yeah, and on top of that Australia has some bank problems of its own with Macquarie et al.


50 posted on 10/06/2008 7:56:40 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("They aren't people! They're the ACLU!" - General Patton in An American Carol)
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To: Norman Bates
This is an orchestrated collapse.

Greenspan. But he had the best of intentions.

51 posted on 10/06/2008 7:56:49 AM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: Thane_Banquo

If anyone has any money to invest, BUY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hold what you buy....In 6 months, you could double/triple your investment....


52 posted on 10/06/2008 7:57:17 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: palmer
But he had the best of intentions.

Don't they all...

53 posted on 10/06/2008 7:57:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You went to Washington like you said. Named any names yet, Senator?)
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To: Maelstorm
Bailout didn’t work.

The "bailout" hasn't even started yet. We would have been better off if the first version would have passed. There are some concerns that it is too restrictive.

54 posted on 10/06/2008 7:57:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
The markets rose on news of the bailout failure then nose-dived on news of its passage????
55 posted on 10/06/2008 7:57:57 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Boiling Pots
I heard some of the Reps saying that they voted for the bail out bill after hearing sob stories from their constituents about not being able to access credit lines to meet payroll.

The banks apparently just in between the time the first bail out was voted down and the next came up for a vote shut off credit in a major way.

It is my belief that the banks forced the issue by cutting off most people's credit lines in that short period of time and that there should be an investigation about collusion, conspiracy, and fraud. Heck, I bet the Demonrats went to the banks with the idea and they, along with the banks, should be prosecuted.

Or, I am still getting credit increases and credit offers maybe those people lied?

56 posted on 10/06/2008 7:58:06 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
100 bp cut.

It's always worked before, right?

57 posted on 10/06/2008 7:58:06 AM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: listenhillary
Capital gains tax, corporate tax cut to zero.


If you do that now and make it immediately effective all you will do is to guarantee that anyone with a long term profit sells immediately to book the non-taxed income. They WILL NOT REINVEST at this time.

As a son of a money manager in his 53rd year of managing money (actually studined under Ben Graham at Columbia), you don't try to catch a falling knife and get in front of a runaway train.

Fortunes are not made calling bottoms, THEY ARE LOST trying to call bottoms.

This sell off will end when the larger, cash rich corporations start to announce stock buybacks. That is what turned the market the day after the crash in 1987.

58 posted on 10/06/2008 7:58:09 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Thane_Banquo

The problem for the Fed is “what will it do?”

It isn’t as tho the Fed is in control of interest rates as it is. The Funds rate shows little relation to actual lending rates right now. So let’s chop the funds rate and make the spread a little wider.


59 posted on 10/06/2008 7:58:09 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: snowrip
This isn't in response to the bailout. This is because the bailout took too long to agree on and too much damage was done in the mean time.

Now we have a full scale panic on our hands.

60 posted on 10/06/2008 7:58:10 AM PDT by DannyTN
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