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'Perfect storm' could give Dems 'magic 60' in Senate (They're already celebrating...ugh!)
CNN.com ^ | 10/08/2008 | Emily Sherman

Posted on 10/08/2008 1:53:49 PM PDT by Braak

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In the face of an economy in crisis and a deeply unpopular president, some analysts believe the situation is ripe to give Democrats a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November. Analysts say Democrats may control the Senate after the November election. Analysts say Democrats may control the Senate after the November election. It's "the perfect storm," said Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report.

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Well, here's hoping we can disappoint, but I get that same sinking feeling I had in 1992.
1 posted on 10/08/2008 1:53:49 PM PDT by Braak
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To: Braak

It’s fine. 2 years of unfettered liberalism will result in 12-16 of rebounding conservativism. It’s happened before, and they won’t be able to control themselves this time either.

The pump is primed for disaster anyway, and they have no clue how to avoid it.


2 posted on 10/08/2008 1:55:38 PM PDT by HarryCaul (Verify Possums! Pogo's Enemy is Us!)
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To: Braak
I'm trying to stay optimistic, but after this last economic spasm and the public's reaction to it, I'm becoming convinced all the MSM will have to do is drum up a similar economic "crisis" three days before 11/4 and BO is in.

It was SO important McCain handle the bailout situation properly & I'm afraid he didn't/isn't.

3 posted on 10/08/2008 1:57:30 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Braak

Sixty Democrats in the Senate with Obama in the White House is the end. They will lock the system down so totally there will be no getting rid of them.


4 posted on 10/08/2008 1:57:40 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Braak

Interesting Rothenberg uses the “perfect storm” analogy, implying that rising support for Dhimmis in the Senate is a very, very, very bad thing! Probably an unintentional image, but I like it.


5 posted on 10/08/2008 1:57:57 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Braak

So the Democrats cause the crisis and CNN expects them to gain from causing the crisis. That’s circular reasoning if I ever heard it.

Everyone I talk to knows what has happened it’s up to Republicans like Chris Shays to explain the whys ...

Here is a video of Rep Shays explaining, pass it around http://10ksnookers.blogspot.com/2008/10/corrupt-democrats.html


6 posted on 10/08/2008 1:58:17 PM PDT by Tarpon (Barrack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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To: HarryCaul

Scope this out!

http://feedlot.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-obamas-marxist-plan-for-america.html


7 posted on 10/08/2008 1:58:52 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Braak

“In the face of an economy in crisis and a deeply unpopular president, some analysts believe the situation is ripe to give Democrats a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November.”

The economy tanked from Democrat congressional leadership and corruption.

The Democrat Congress’ approval radting is even lower than the President.

Republicans disapprove of President Bush for different reasons than the Democrats do. The Left thinks Bush is too far to the Right. The Right believes he isn’t far enough to the Right.

Republicans disapproval of Bush won’t translate to a rejection of Republican Congressmen. Bush is leaving office but the Congressmen will remain. RINOs in Congress and personal rejection of Republican congressman may be a factor in Republican congressmen being rejected by GOP voters.

And what of the 2/3rds “supermajority” the Democrats wanted on votes?


8 posted on 10/08/2008 1:58:55 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: HarryCaul

But this time they’ll use Marx, Stalin, Alinsky & companys’ playbooks to ensure that conservatism is stifled. Arm yourselves now.


9 posted on 10/08/2008 1:59:08 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: HarryCaul
The difference is...I think they remember what we did to Carter...do you honestly think they won't stack the deck as much as they can to make sure it doesn't happen to Obambi, as much as he may screw up? I bet within 90 days of these clowns assuming power, we'll have the fairness doctrine return and the FCC will be telling JimRob that he HAS to allow DU trolls unfettered access to FR..

Mark my words, We could have dealt with Hillary...Obambi..he's another kettle of fish..he's the perfect storm of anger and far-left insanity.

10 posted on 10/08/2008 1:59:16 PM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: Braak

So where are the Republicans? They sure haven’t been out there blaming this Fannie, Freddie thing on the Dems which would sure make it tougher for the Dems. There are so many things the Dems have hung around the neck of the Republicans and they have done little to fight back. Sorry, but that is the way I see it.


11 posted on 10/08/2008 1:59:49 PM PDT by kezzek
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Yes, they’ll “change” the system so we can’t get rid of them outside of violent overthrow. Cling to your guns and religion.


12 posted on 10/08/2008 2:00:21 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Braak

“Barack Obama recently said, ‘The first thing I’d do as president would be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act,’ This legislation would wipe out all state and federal abortion restrictions including the partial-birth abortion ban.”


13 posted on 10/08/2008 2:00:34 PM PDT by scratcher
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To: Braak

I think there is no question that they pick up seats. The pins are positioned right for that. That said I highly doubt they hit sixty. I think 57-58 would be a more likely number.


14 posted on 10/08/2008 2:00:43 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Braak

If the Democrats are so proud of attaining a majority and no longer opposing a president (I thought that was the Democrats complaint of a Republican President and Republican Congress), why aren’t they so open with what their agenda items on Iraq, taxes, drilling, abortion, homosexuality, and health care will be?


15 posted on 10/08/2008 2:00:56 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: HarryCaul

It’s terrible. You may be too young to remember the last time we had a ‘Rat in the WH, a 2-1 ‘Rat majority in the House, and a filibuster-proof ‘Rat majority in the Senate, but it was an unmitigated disaster that we are still paying for today. When was that? It was after the ‘64 election and the “true conservative” Barry Goldwater debacle. That gave us LBJ’s “Great Society”. What did that lead to? Well, among other things, years of race riots, the “War On Poverty” boondoggle, and a debt taxpayers today are still saddled with. Are you up for another round of that? Here’s a clue: the country probably won’t survive it.


16 posted on 10/08/2008 2:02:20 PM PDT by chimera
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To: HarryCaul

This country is on the verge of New Deal 2.0 should this happen. And even if it leads to a resurgence of Republicans in a few years, they will all be RINOs


17 posted on 10/08/2008 2:02:43 PM PDT by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: Braak

Naw, they’d “cut off” the criticism of the press by declaring that even 25 word excerpts of published news items was “unfair competition” to the click rates dinosaur media sites “should” be getting.


18 posted on 10/08/2008 2:03:02 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: chimera
What did that lead to? Well, among other things, years of race riots, the “War On Poverty” boondoggle, and a debt taxpayers today are still saddled with. Are you up for another round of that? Here’s a clue: the country probably won’t survive it.

And Ayers' work will be done.

19 posted on 10/08/2008 2:04:49 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Braak

I’m prepared for it if it happens. My wife and I will make the following changes to my finances and spending habits:

1. We will not do business with anyone who donates or supports Dems, regardless of how much we like their product or service. We will look up contributions even for a furnace repairman or plumber. We won’t give a reason why we have suspended our business with them.

2. We are in the process of establishing an offshore account for a portion of our assets. I am concerned that the Fed and the Dems will impose capital/currency controls at some point. It happened in Venezuela, Russia, and Zimbabwe, why not here?

3. We will SHARPLY curtail our discretionary spending, and will only pay cash for the little that we do consume- credit lines will exist only for an emergency.


20 posted on 10/08/2008 2:06:47 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Tarpon
So the Democrats cause the crisis and CNN expects them to gain from causing the crisis. That’s circular reasoning if I ever heard it.

I don't know what CNN is smoking, but when SNL runs a skit that does a better job explaining the subprime mess than the media, then something is definitely screwy with the MSM. I also think the fact that SNL runs such a skit says the average person is very aware of Congresses roll in this mess.

21 posted on 10/08/2008 2:07:33 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Sixty Democrats in the Senate with Obama in the White House is the end. They will lock the system down so totally there will be no getting rid of them.

Afraid so. The Communist have finally taken over America. Just as I have said that 2/3 of Americans are brain dead.

22 posted on 10/08/2008 2:07:35 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

That’s what keeps me up at night. A filibuster-proof senate with Obama as prez will re-enact the fairness doctrine in a heartbeat. Talk radio will be dead and a large branch of the alternative media will be silenced by the tyrant. The democrat controlled justice department will probably prosecute websites that “foment hate speech.” The stories of babies born alive and left to die would not be heard, the truth of Obama’s ACORN connections would not get out, and there would be no way for the voices of dissent to organize, compare notes, or be widely heard. My greatest fear is that if Obama is elected, we will not be able to recover because the truth will be silenced as hate speech or out of simple “fairness.”


23 posted on 10/08/2008 2:08:48 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Braak

By 10pm Pacific time on November fourth two things will have happened. McCain will have been declared the winner. Obama and company will be rushing more video to a studio for the next expose on stolen elections that will be played hundreds of times before the election in 2012.

Right now they are playing the last one. And they are also playing Bobbie over and over.

Jack, Martin, Bobbie, the liberals are saying, “Let’s win this one for them.” Gag me with a pitch fork.

Even the cable services are in the tank for team stank!


24 posted on 10/08/2008 2:08:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: HarryCaul

2 years of unfettered liberalism may be fatal to the U.S.A.


25 posted on 10/08/2008 2:09:02 PM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: 6SJ7

I think your comment is right on.


26 posted on 10/08/2008 2:09:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: Braak
Hey, let's start a pool. $10 per entry.

Should the Dems fail to win 60 senate seats on Nov 4, on what date will they file some charges against or float some scandal about a GOP senator from a state with a Democratic Governor?"

27 posted on 10/08/2008 2:10:37 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: chimera

It didn’t end so well for LBJ. He did such a screw up job, he even pulled the plug on himself for running for reelection. LBJ - the Dem Dems don’t like to talk about.


28 posted on 10/08/2008 2:11:30 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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To: Braak

How anyone could possibly want one party to be in charge is beyond me. When we had both house and senate I knew we wouldnt do anything (we never do). These yahoo’s will go to town!


29 posted on 10/08/2008 2:12:14 PM PDT by GoCards
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Put me down for 12:01 AM, 11/05/08. I think we’re going to have to give them time to sober up...


30 posted on 10/08/2008 2:12:23 PM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: Braak
Yeah, it's 2002 all over again.



Jeez, don't you people EVER learn??
31 posted on 10/08/2008 2:13:28 PM PDT by Antoninus (Ignore the polls. They're meant to shape public opinion, not measure it.)
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To: HarryCaul

I agree. Time to relax and get philosophical.

Things will turn around before you know it.


32 posted on 10/08/2008 2:13:33 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: Braak

This is such utter BS. I have never been so angry at the mainstream media in all my life. They have lied again and again for Barack Obama and for the democrats.

Now, we have an old asshat of a candidate who doesn’t know how to fight and may have refused negative campaigning until ti was too late.

Ughh ...


33 posted on 10/08/2008 2:15:42 PM PDT by DiogenesLaertius
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To: DiogenesLaertius

This should come on in the history textbooks as the days of a partisan media on par with Soviet Pravda; a defacto state run media as it serves only to advance the agenda of one party.


34 posted on 10/08/2008 2:17:52 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: HarryCaul

I wish I had your optimism. But how many socialist laws were repealed during Bush’s first 6 years? Not one. Hell, the GOP wouldn’t even stop funding Planned Parenthood!


35 posted on 10/08/2008 2:18:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
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To: Braak

The only upside of the Dems being veto and filibuster proof is that they won’t be able to pass off their failures on the GOP. It’ll all be on them.


36 posted on 10/08/2008 2:18:12 PM PDT by PeterFinn (NObama in NOvember.)
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To: Braak

NM, VA, CO seats are gone.
NH, OR, NC are currently D leans.
AK, MN races are wild, let’s say they are tossups.

On a really bad day we may lose all 8.

Which means we need to hold all of MS, GA, KY. Looked easy a week ago, not so easy now.


37 posted on 10/08/2008 2:19:02 PM PDT by ubaldus
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To: PeterFinn

True...but do you really think any failures will be reported as such..remember Clinton? The failure of HilaryCare was Page 3 or 4 IIRC.


38 posted on 10/08/2008 2:19:25 PM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: 6SJ7

The Democrats to the Left of LBJ (who were rioting in the streets outside the 1968 convention and INSIDE the 1968 convention, Eugene McCarthy’s supporters) AND the media heads who SUPPORTED them ARE the DNC and MSM of today.


39 posted on 10/08/2008 2:19:56 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Braak

The DEMs will be lucky to pick up 5 seats and 2010 looks great for the GOP when one looks at who is in play that year - We are likely to pick right back up 4-6 Senate seats in 2010 -


40 posted on 10/08/2008 2:20:18 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: anniegetyourgun
....Cling to your guns and religion."

That is so.

41 posted on 10/08/2008 2:20:26 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Braak

Great job, Republicans! Your short-sighted greed and corruption completely “trashed your brand” in a short 4 years!

They don’t call ‘em the STUPID party for nothing.


42 posted on 10/08/2008 2:22:23 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: DevSix

2010 looks very difficlut, with lots of COP retirements coming and FL, IA, MO, NH, NC, PA seats to defend.

not easy to pick up any seats, and quite possible to lose another 3 or 4.

2012 and 2014 will be quite good, though


43 posted on 10/08/2008 2:24:06 PM PDT by ubaldus
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To: Braak
"Rothenberg and Sabato agree that Virginia, New Mexico, Colorado and New Hampshire are all but a lock for Democrats."

Virginia is a lock for Mark Warnner.

"With Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens on trial on corruption charges, Alaska could go to Democrats as well."

I thought Ted Stevens is even or ahead.

"Minnesota, Mississippi, and Kentucky are the three states most likely to determine whether Democrats get to 60,"

Is Coleman really in jeopardy of losing to Air America comedien?

Rothenberg said, adding the unexpectedly tight race in North Carolina between incumbent Republican Elizabeth Dole and state Sen. Kay Hagan could turn out detrimental for Republicans as well.

I thought Dole was still ahead. Has North Carolina really gone that 'blue'?

44 posted on 10/08/2008 2:24:37 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: ubaldus

2012 will be great, as long as that Mayan apocalypse comes through.


45 posted on 10/08/2008 2:28:38 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (youtube.com/wptg)
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To: messierhunter; Logical me

Scary as hell!!


46 posted on 10/08/2008 2:30:10 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Braak

Don’t worry if this happens the Democrats are headed towards a “Perfect Storm” themselves from which they will not survive nor from which will they ever recover.


47 posted on 10/08/2008 2:31:36 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Geist Krieger

Kentucky and Georgia’s senate races are getting tighter.
The anti-incumbent thing.


48 posted on 10/08/2008 2:39:24 PM PDT by buckalfa (confused and bewildered)
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To: Braak
"Minnesota, Mississippi, and Kentucky are the three states most likely to determine whether Democrats get to 60," Rothenberg said, adding the unexpectedly tight race in North Carolina between incumbent Republican Elizabeth Dole and state Sen. Kay Hagan could turn out detrimental for Republicans as well."

Er, no. McConnell is not in any trouble at all in KY; one loopy poll had Coleman down, but another poll just the previous day had him up big. Perhaps the MS seat is in trouble---I don't know. But Liddy Dole is ahead and apparently gaining some momentum.

The seats in trouble are Sununu, Warner, Domenici (retirement, but the replacement is running behind), and Allard (retirement, but this is a close race). Smith seemed to be safe earlier, but now is in a close race. That's five, plus MS, for six, or 56 seats plus two RINOs and Joe Lieberman. However, Joe has made it clear he won't vote with the Dems on everything.

49 posted on 10/08/2008 2:47:36 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: buckalfa
"Kentucky and Georgia’s senate races are getting tighter. The anti-incumbent thing."

Agreed. However, why is the whole "throw out the bums" purge the incumnbants thing is to get rid of only Republicans and replace them with ultra-left-wing-big-spending Democrat liberals?

Well, there is not much we can do about it then. Even if there is record conservatives and Republicans turnout, there is just more of them now than there are of us. Liberalism in this country is taking over. It seems this nation wants to be more like Europe, well then we go the way of Britain, Germany and France.

50 posted on 10/08/2008 2:49:35 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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