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AYERS-OBAMA: THE VOTERS DONíT CARE - Rick Moran

Posted on 10/08/2008 4:23:04 PM PDT by wingsof liberty

The McCain campaign is perplexed, bothered, and bewildered of late. Despite Barack Obama’s past associations with radical bombers, nauseating racial bigots, and anti-semitic Palestinians, the media doesn’t seem to want to expose the extent of those relationships nor ask tough questions as to how the views of these extremists might have shaped or impacted his own.

We can – and in many cases we should – chalk this up to a shameless bias on the part of the media toward Barack Obama and the Democrats. But something much simpler is at work, something that makes any attack on Obama by McCain using his radical associations as a backdrop to question his judgement an exercise in futility.

The voters don’t care.

America did not invent the fine old custom of tar and feathering crooked, lying, corrupt charlatans and riding them out of town on a rail (the English have been doing it for 800 years). But the mood of the American voter is so outraged at the financial crisis we are in that if I were a Congressman campaigning at home, I’d steer clear of pillow and asphalt factories for a while.

The fact is, the economy is of such overriding concern, all else in the campaign pales in comparison. The voter simply doesn’t want to hear about Ayers, Wright, Rezko or any other problematic Obama friendship. Nor, I suspect, are they keen to relive the Keating 5 fiasco or read about any other manufactured McCain association by the press.

This piece this morning by Peter Yost of the AP is a stretch – a laughably ridiculous attempt to equate John McCain’s tangential relationship to a group that later assisted in training El Salvadoran death squads with Obama’s close, personal, association with William Ayers. Yost is sticking out his tongue and saying “neener, neener, neener,” hoping that the reader will nod their head and say “By Jiminy! McCain hung around with terrorists too!”

The problem is, Yost destroys his own case in the body of the piece:

The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe.

The council’s founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member in the group.

“McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes,” Singlaub told The Associated Press in an interview. “I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn’t left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated.

“I don’t recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group,” Singlaub said.

McCain says he resigned from the group in 1984 and asked to have his name removed from the letterhead in 1986. Singlaub also had this to say about McCain’s “involvement:”

“I don’t ever remember hearing about his resigning, but I really wasn’t worried about that part of our activities, a housekeeping thing,” said Singlaub. “If he didn’t want to be on the board that’s OK. It wasn’t as if he had been active participant and we were going to miss his help. He had no active interest. He certainly supported us.”

Compare McCain’s “involvement” with these nuts to Obama’s working relationship with Ayers, their friendship going back 20 years, and Obama’s clear desire to implement the radical educational agenda of Ayers when he was president of the Annenberg project. There is absolutely no symmetry here – none. And yet Yost, being a good little AP hack, tries to create some out of whole cloth.

But this is a digression from the reality of what is going on in America – the America not visited much by candidates and certainly not commented on by anyone in the mainstream media.

The America of ordinary, hard working people is fearful. And why shouldn’t they be? If they’re like me – barely able to grasp what the hell is going on in the financial markets – they nevertheless know that it is unprecedented and that some very smart people are extremely worried. When 60% of us believe we are headed for a 1930’s style depression, catcalls from candidates about who their friends might be simply doesn’t resonate. People have much bigger worries on their minds.

Admittedly, there are precious few of these “wise men” who are warning of a worldwide depression. A severe downturn, yes. Perhaps even an altering of the international financial system that would not be favorable to the United States. But soup lines and massive deflation are not currently foreseeable – not as long as the Fed is able to pump hundreds of billions of dollars at will into the banking system in order to keep it afloat until some semblance of confidence and order return to the markets.

How long can that go on? From Richard Fernandez’s site, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard writing in the Telegraph:

During the past week, we have tipped over the edge, into the middle of the abyss. Systemic collapse is in full train. The Netherlands has just rushed through a second, more sweeping nationalisation of Fortis. Ireland and Greece have had to rescue all their banks. Iceland is facing an Argentine denouement. The US commercial paper market is closed. It shrank $95bn last week, and has lost $208bn in three weeks. The interbank lending market has seized up. There are almost no bids. It is a ghost market. Healthy companies cannot roll over debt. Some will have to sack staff today to stave off default. As the unflappable Warren Buffett puts it, the credit freeze is “sucking blood” out of the economy. “In my adult lifetime, I don’t think I’ve ever seen people as fearful,” he said. We are fast approaching the point of no return. The only way out of this calamitous descent is “shock and awe” on a global scale, and even that may not be enough.

In the first full trad ing day following the bailout, stocks lost 370 points. Yes, there are alarmists out there (Paul Krugman, please go on a nice, long vacation. I hear Bellvue has some padded rooms with wonderful views.). But when Warren Buffet gets nervous, the American people who are fearful don’t appear quite so stupid and naive, now do they?

The bottom line is that attacks on character are being ignored at the moment by the voter. All they want to hear is what each candidate will do to protect them from this financial storm that is sinking so many huge and seemingly indestructible companies. The thinking goes, “If Lehman Brothers can go under, am I next?” In a free country, people have a very proprietary sense of their own money and how safe it is.

They don’t have to be told things could get a lot worse. They sense it, as a deer might sense a wolf nearby. It can’t smell the wolf but it senses danger nevertheless. Voters may not entirely understand the ins and outs of international finance, but they sense their money, their livelihoods are in peril.Hence, all other issues of the campaign – the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran, education, abortion, gun rights – the whole mish mash of topics that have been fought over and discussed in this campaign now take a seat at the back of the bus as the voter wants his questions answered on the economy.

Hugh Hewitt seems optimistic that if McCain can keep hammering Obama on Ayers while showing the voters how disasterous an Obama presidency would be for the economy, he might still pull it out:

As more details emerge on the Obama-Ayers connection (here’s a short story from 1997 on Ayers that features both Obamas and which suggests that Michelle Obama organized the program that featured both Ayers and her husband), the Obama talking heads are hysterical with outrage, which is a clear signal to Team McCain to keep digging and swinging on the subject of Obama’s judgement. Just who, after all, does he intend to staff the 3,000 executive branch jobs with? Who will be at Defense and Justice and Treasury and State?.

The message also has to be targeted at the reality that the dizzying declines in the markets cannot be arrested and reversed with tax hikes and unemployment benefit extensions. Even as people shudder at the rapid decline in their savings and retirement accounts, they have to be trusted to know that anti-growth polices of the sort being pushed by Obama will simply drive business, jobs and growth overseas. A tax hike agenda of the sort pushed by Obama right now is economic suicide, and John McCain has to forcefully say so.

If raising taxes and extending unemployment is what it is going to take to keep voter’s money safe, they would be willing to vote for the devil himself. Obama might not have good ideas on what to do about the crisis. But that isn’t the point. It comes down to who the voters believe. And the sad fact is John McCain, as a member of the party in power in the White House, has about as much credibility on the economy as my pet cat Snowball.

I wish it were otherwise. The more we find out about Obama’s relationship with Ayers the more I am troubled. Even more troubling has been a systematic campaign by Obama and his handlers to minimize and even lie about this relationship at every turn. Despite yeoman work done by David Freddoso and Stanley Kurtz of The National Review on how Obama helped Ayers try and implement some frighteningly radical educational ideas on the unsuspecting parents and schoolchildren of Chicago, it appears that it will all go for naught. The voter sees the effort by the McCain campaign to attack Obama on his radical associations as “just playing politics.”

And that is something they don’t want to see. They are hopping mad and scared. That’s a combination that Obama is having little trouble exploiting to his own advantage.

By: Rick Moran at 6:46 am


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; issues; obama; odinga
I think Rick is on the mark here. The fact is the real reason Obama is surging in the polls is the financial crisis, but for THE WRONG REASONS. Voters automatically blame McCains party & Bush since a Republican is POTUS. The fact that Obama got piles of campaign cash from Fannie & Freddie, knew Fannies CEO personally and went along with the Dems strategy that these bad loans were quote "A good idea" doesnt seem to matter??? I realize that the GOP is not squeaky clean on this issue and could have done more, but the bottom line is Obama and the Dems policies are the main reason were in this mess!! Not to mention that if Obama wins, by his own admission he will bring back the failed policies of the Carter administration, tax, tax, and tax some more and create huge, inefficient government organizations, all during a serious financial crisis. This will do more then deepen our recession - it will create a depression similar to what occurred in the 1930s. Why dont people get this??
1 posted on 10/08/2008 4:23:04 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: wingsof liberty
You Are Who You Associate With:

Obama either didn't know or didn't care about whom he intentionally chose to associate with in college just as long as they were, in his own words, "the more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets... we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints."

Obama either didn't know or didn't care that his friend and fellow partner on several Chicago community organization boards and in whose home he launched his political career, William Ayers, was an infamous and unrepentent radical leftwing terrorist who boasted about planting bombs and killing people in this country.

Obama either didn't know or didn't care that the Chicago Community Organizing group that he chose to join was founded by self-avowed Communist-supporter Saul Alinsky (who actually dedicated his book, "Rules For Radicals" to Lucifer) and that he was mentored by one of Alinsky's students John L. McKnight who was also an unapologetic radical Socialist.

Obama either didn't know or didn't care that his colleague, supporter and personal friend, Rashid Khalidi, who was married to the President of the Arab American Action Network to which Obama helped funnel $40,000 from one of his Community groups, was also a long-time anti-Israeli and an ardent supporter of the PLO while working for the Palestinian news agency, Wafa.

Obama either didn't know or didn't care that his friend Tony Rezko who bailed Obama out of financial trouble and bought him a home was a such a corrupt slumlord that he was just convicted for years of committing extortion, fraud and money laundering.

Obama either didn't know or didn't care that one of his vice-presidential search committee advisors, Jim Johnson was the former Chairman & CEO of Fannie Mae which, in a 2004 Federal Investigation, was found to have improperly deferred $200 million in expenses, substantially under-reported his own compensation to the tune of almost $20 million and who personally received below market-rate loans from Countrywide Financial because the corporation considered them to be "FOA's" - "Friends of Angelo" (Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo).

Obama either didn't know or didn't care that his close friend, Frank Marshall Davis, whom he wrote about with such admiration in his book "Dreams Of My Father" was a radical member of the Communist Party USA, an ardent Stalinist and a outspoken supporter of the 60's Black-Power movement.

Obama either didn't know or didn't care that his own Church, Trinity United, was founded on the racist 'Black Liberation Theology" teachings of the 1960's radical Black-Supremacist James Cone who wrote and spoke extensively of his hatred of whites including: "If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."

Obama either didn't know or didn't care that his own pastor of over 20 years, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who conducted his marriage and children's baptisms and served as adivsor on his campaign had regularly spewed the most offensive, racist, white-hating, America-hating "sermons" in his very own Church and praised the likes of Louis Farrahkahn, Mohammar Khaddaffi and sympathized with Hamas.

Gee, what a wonderful judge of character this guy is.


BOTTOMLINE: You Are Who You Choose Associate With.

And Obama Has Spent His Whole Life Intentionally Associating With Militants, Marxists, Radicals, Racists, Crooks And Communists.

What Kind Of People Will He Surround Himself With If He Becomes President?



2 posted on 10/08/2008 4:26:14 PM PDT by The_Macallan
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To: wingsof liberty

hosepipe pointed me to this article:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

3 posted on 10/08/2008 4:26:24 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: wingsof liberty

No question that being in the incumbent party is a big disadvantage when the country is going to a hot place in a handbasket.

As for the ties. I really don’t know if they are impacting anyone who needs to be impacted. Everyone I work with or know socially is more or less decided. I don’t know enough folks in the mushy middle to know if this is swaying them at all.


4 posted on 10/08/2008 4:27:12 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: wingsof liberty

zero is no longer surging and America does care... some Americans are just now starting to pay attention. obammy will lose.

LLS


5 posted on 10/08/2008 4:27:39 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: wingsof liberty

If the Republicans would actually USE the debates to get the truth out they wouldn’t be such whimps and use the verbal ammo that they have, but NOOOOOO.... We want to play kissy-face with the Velociraptor.


6 posted on 10/08/2008 4:29:24 PM PDT by madison10 (Republicans don't win poll, they win elections.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I agree for the first time, I am recieving e-mails about Obama from my brother in-law in Arizona.

I am usually the one to send them out, but now everyone is pretty disgusted!

This Ayers is just the beginning, now Odinga....ya it will matter!


7 posted on 10/08/2008 4:30:35 PM PDT by Texas4ever ( Who is the real Obama?)
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To: wingsof liberty
AYERS-OBAMA: THE VOTERS DON’T CARE - Rick Moran

If the voters do not care, then there was no point in writing this article. It would neither draw an audience (money) or change a person's mind (vote).

8 posted on 10/08/2008 4:30:59 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: wingsof liberty
Voters automatically blame McCains party & Bush since a Republican is POTUS.

Good post!

Americans are now amoral in most every respect. They elect the President the way the vote for contestants on "American Idol". The Founders said that our Republic would die when The People lose their Faith and become ignorant of the Constitution.

It grieves to to even think this, but I fear this the Great Experiment has failed. The Sheeple are even cheering for that destruction.

9 posted on 10/08/2008 4:32:45 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: wingsof liberty
Maybe, maybe not. Anyone asked Obama where he keeps his pipe bombs?

Probably not, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have some.

Frankly, I think even the AA voters are concerned ~ but they're all wrapped up in a "let's vote for the first brother" emotions.

At the same time the pollsters are simply dropping non-responses from their analysis ~ those are the 20% of white Democrats who will never vote for an AA. This distorts things a bit and makes it look like Obama has a couple of percentage points lead.

In reality he's probably 10 points down.

10 posted on 10/08/2008 4:32:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wingsof liberty

What’s this whining about?

Jeremiah Wright tapes were played DAY and NIGHT for weeks on almost EVERY channel.

Ayers was beaten to death on ABC during Primary Debate.

Everyone has seen the soundbite of Sister Sarah calling That-one freind of a terrorist and sees America differently.

NO CHANGE.

No one cares about past skeletons.

Economy is all people care about and besides “Tax Cuts” for mostly wealthy, what’s the plan?


11 posted on 10/08/2008 4:33:18 PM PDT by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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To: wingsof liberty
Democrats have NO MORALS!! They are VILE and EVIL and like their politicans the same way!!!

Poor Bob Dole saying "Where's the OUTRAGE" springs to mind......being immoral is a Democrat ENHANCEMENT!

12 posted on 10/08/2008 4:35:24 PM PDT by Ann Archy (AbortiDUH!!!on.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: wingsof liberty

Rick is a handservant for the dems, or has he had a brainfart?


13 posted on 10/08/2008 4:36:13 PM PDT by So Circumstanced
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To: wingsof liberty
"The voters don't care," because they don't know. Over the last week or so many are hearing about the Ayers-Obama link for the first time. Or maybe they've heard it before, but are now listening and understanding the implications. They are starting to realize that a left-wing radical is trying to win over the presidency and that he will say anything to accomplish that goal, including denying and obfuscating.

The McCain campaign has to keep drilling this issue into the nation's consciousness, and tell Americans that Obama is not guilty by association, but that he himself believes in what the likes of Ayers are trying to do to our nation.

14 posted on 10/08/2008 4:36:22 PM PDT by no_go_lie
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To: wingsof liberty

The greatest underlying cause behind the fact that voters don’t seem to care is that these voters don’t care enough about the country to do any meaningful research on their own into the candidates, or they don’t have the thinking power to do so. (Either way is similarly depressing.)

The greatest practical cause behind the fact that voters don’t seem to care is the fact that the MSM are corrupt and vacuous, both intellectually and morally. Even if they present the truth about Obama, if that presentation is done in a way that makes it seem like it’s no big deal, then the voters won’t care. Sad but true. If they were to present the truth with the gravitas/frequency/intensity with which they would present it regarding any Republican, then the voters would care.

I have said for the past several years that this election would prompt the greatest propaganda campaign in the history of the planet, and that this election would be a barometer of how much power the MSM have left. If they have enough power left to swing an election, Obama wins. If not, McCain wins. Although it paints a very poor prognosis for the future thriving of America, it’s obvious that tens of millions of Americans still lap up what the MSM put before them.

MM


15 posted on 10/08/2008 4:37:29 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: wingsof liberty

This is the most ridiculous article. To claim the attacks are not working when they just started? Puhlease.


16 posted on 10/08/2008 4:37:47 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: wingsof liberty
Why dont people get this??

As the author said, "they don't care"

It's 1992 all over again......Bill Clinton was a slimy dude with a lot of baggage and illicit associations. When the people were told about this, they yawned and chanted....

Hope, Change, blah blah blah

Facts and being responsible does not matter to these people.

17 posted on 10/08/2008 4:38:03 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: wingsof liberty

Obama surging? LoL!.

Oh, Ayers is relevant alright and it will have an bad impact on Obama.


18 posted on 10/08/2008 4:40:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: wingsof liberty; SortaBichy
Voters automatically blame McCains party & Bush since a Republican is POTUS.

Yep...the 'rats are wise to this, knowing better than Republicans that maybe a tiny percentage read beyond the first paragraph.

It's just like here in California, as I predicted before our stupid recall a few years ago that inserted Arnie; our mess will forever be a Republican guilt burden.

These are irreversibly perceived as Republican Fiascos....and will be for election cycle after election cycle after election cycle.

Pretty slick, I gotta admit, how the left turned themselves into the party of "fiscal responsibility"; nothing like having a teetsucking press covering your ass, I guess.

19 posted on 10/08/2008 4:40:11 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: ErnBatavia

People better care.


20 posted on 10/08/2008 4:40:57 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: SteamShovel

Ross Perot.

There is the reason Clinton won in 1992.


21 posted on 10/08/2008 4:41:11 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: wingsof liberty
McCain and Palin need to begin carrying around these photos of Ayers standing on the American flag,, especially the photo of Ayers dancing on the flag,, and begin showing them to the American people at events and especially in the next debate!

A picture is worth a thousand words!

That picture puts a face on Ayers as well as putting a face on his other associations and needs little explanation!

McCain should hold that photo up to the people and to Obama at the next debate,, ask Obama to explain why he chose to launch his political future out of that man’s living room!

Show the photo!

22 posted on 10/08/2008 4:44:17 PM PDT by freemike
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To: Texas4ever

Start by using Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh in the same sentence. People will start to care.


23 posted on 10/08/2008 4:49:49 PM PDT by nicksaunt
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To: The_Republican

It’s not that it wasn’t mentioned before, because it has. The problem is that it hasn’t been fully investigated....we need to follow it to “ground”.

The news media has spent more time and effort in vetting Sarah’s kids than they have obama.

Also, I’m not only concerned about his acquaintances, but also very interested in those years he was in college. Seems like a black hole.... wonder why?

I was telling someone at work, this would be a good plot for a spy book where the old KGB plants a mole years ago and slowly waits for the right time to make a move. BTW..another curious question (may have been answered already)...how did he pay for all this “upscale” education? Was he funded? Follow the money.....

I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory...but how can we say it’s not, until the light is turned on and the facts are on the table?


24 posted on 10/08/2008 4:50:00 PM PDT by PsyOps
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To: snarkytart
There is the reason Clinton won in 1992.

I chalk that up to the people not caring. They didn't like Bush and wanted to punish him, even if we got Slick. The same will happen this time, but BO is worse than Slick.

Don't get me wrong, I have a heap of problems with the RINO party, but voting for anyone else IS A VOTE FOR THE RATS.

The time to deal with the RINOs was in the primaries. We failed to do that, but let's not add insult to injury.

25 posted on 10/08/2008 4:50:23 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: wingsof liberty

The biggest thing Obama’s supporters care about is how much free stuff they’re going to get from the government. The only way to make them doubt him is to make them realize they won’t be getting what he promises. I know that’s challenging, but harping on Ayers & stuff is only preaching to the choir - his supporters could care less about that.


26 posted on 10/08/2008 4:50:30 PM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: nicksaunt

Oh ya, heck I care...what’s the connection?


27 posted on 10/08/2008 4:52:02 PM PDT by Texas4ever ( Who is the real Obama?)
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To: The_Republican
LOL, more evidence Americans are idiots.....they whine about gas prices then vote for the Dem using the cute fuzzy bear, they whine about health care prices, housing, and college prices, then vote for big gov pols who help raise those prices, they whine about jobs overseas, then vote for men who raise business taxes, they whine about tax cuts for the successful and productive even tho those are the exact people who give them jobs.

Americans don't know jack about the economy.

28 posted on 10/08/2008 4:54:30 PM PDT by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die!)
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To: SteamShovel
The same will happen this time, but BO is worse than Slick.

The world is a much more dangerous place today as well.

Our country survived the Clinton presidency reasonably well. I'm not at all convinced the same will be true of an Obama presidency.

29 posted on 10/08/2008 4:56:05 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: raybbr

bfl


30 posted on 10/08/2008 4:58:46 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: wingsof liberty
Hillary was right. She and McCain were vetted. Obama hasn't been. The MSM is not willing to do it. We have one month to do their jobs for them. I truly believe that if the facts come out enough people will be appalled such that he will not be elected.
31 posted on 10/08/2008 5:02:11 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: The_Republican
No one cares about past skeletons.

Really? One of my wife's professional colleagues is a big Hussein supporter (female, pro-choice). Not a luncheon goes by without her spewing some invective directed towards Palin.

Now here's the weird thing: her oldest son is in the Army medical corps (based in Hawaii). Her reaction to the Hussein/Ayers relationship? She simply doesn't believe it's true; none of it.

It's not that she doesn't care - she simply denies that it's true. How many others are in a state of shock/denial regarding their chosen One? Wait until the Kenyan "problem" perks up over the next few days.

32 posted on 10/08/2008 5:13:18 PM PDT by semantic
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To: Texas4ever
More of an analogy than a connection. Both domestic terrorists out to destroy this country. McVeigh was caught, Ayers skipped out for a long time and was later freed on a prosecutorial technicality. The both wanted the same thing, utter destruction of everything we hold near and dear.

I don't believe that people really understand how horrific the Weathermen were, but we do understand what Mc Veigh did. Pointing out McVeigh's actions as to who Bill Ayers really is may help people understand how incredibly dangerous this guy is.

Ayers is an individual who should have NO ASSOCIATION with anyone who is running for President.

33 posted on 10/08/2008 5:14:21 PM PDT by nicksaunt
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To: nicksaunt

I agree!


34 posted on 10/08/2008 5:15:40 PM PDT by Texas4ever ( Who is the real Obama?)
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To: muawiyah

I hope to God your right. By the way, if all that was necessary to run the free world was flowery speeches and the ability to read off a teleprompter, I would vote for The One myself!


35 posted on 10/08/2008 6:16:49 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: MississippiMan; All

The greatest practical cause behind the fact that voters don’t seem to care is the fact that the MSM are corrupt and vacuous, both intellectually and morally. Even if they present the truth about Obama, if that presentation is done in a way that makes it seem like it’s no big deal, then the voters won’t care. Sad but true. If they were to present the truth with the gravitas/frequency/intensity with which they would present it regarding any Republican, then the voters would care.
Exactly! If Obama had been properly vetted like any other candidate should have been, he wouldnt be so damned popular. We cant have that from the Lamestream Media, can we?


36 posted on 10/08/2008 6:21:13 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: freemike; All

McCain should hold that photo up to the people and to Obama at the next debate,, ask Obama to explain why he chose to launch his political future out of that man’s living room!
Michelle Malkin said it best: For Obama to claim he didnt know about Ayers past means he is either A) The most ignorant politician in the world or B) a liar. Neither quality is particularly favorable for a presidential candidate.


37 posted on 10/08/2008 6:25:40 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: alicewonders

The only way to make them doubt him is to make them realize they won’t be getting what he promises.
Lets not kid ourselves here - the hard core Obama Kool-Aid drinkers would support him even if he tuned out to be a mass murderer.


38 posted on 10/08/2008 6:28:23 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: SteamShovel

“It’s 1992 all over again......Bill Clinton was a slimy dude with a lot of baggage and illicit associations.”

First, 57% of the people voted AGAINST Bill Clinton in 1992. He only pulld in 43% of the vote. Perot sucked off alot of votes from Bush Sr. Clinton won 12 states by less than 3% that year. If Perot isn’t ther, Bush wins.

Second, People do care. They just don’t know. Many non partisian voters who didn’t pay attention during the Primaries are hearing about Ayers and Rezko and Wright for the first time.

Just wait until Jermome Corsi gets back. He’s got the evidence to derail the Obama campaign.


39 posted on 10/08/2008 6:29:14 PM PDT by GeeMoney (Hey Obama, it's God BLESS America!)
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To: comebacknewt

I’m not at all convinced the same will be true of an Obama presidency.
Thank you. I didnt much care for Bubba, but I am PETRIFIED of Obama. I firmly beleive that if he becomes POTUS, this country will in 4 years, at worst - lay in ruins, and at best, bear a striking resemblance to the USSR of the 70s


40 posted on 10/08/2008 6:32:08 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: wingsof liberty

Voters don’t care, voters are uninformed, voters are complacent. Voters foolishly believe, as many here do, that we have the most perfect political system in the world, unbreakable, insubvertible, and having two political parties is just fine and dandy. Some fool here flamed me a few months ago saying that it was Thomas Jefferson hisself (or one of those dead guys) who said that you’re either for federalism or against it, and that’s plenty enough for this country as far as governing ideas are concerned.

Well, guess what. One Saul Alinsky, and one Bill Ayers, figured out these weaknesses themselves and then took the next logical step which was to infiltrate one of those two parties, and present a perfect non-threatening, non-eubonics speaking negro as a Presidential candidate. Beats blowing oneself up in a Greenwich Village townhouse.

Voters don’t care because they figured out a long time ago that such subversion was not possible and that mechanisms existed to properly vet the candidates. Wrong! “The mechanisms” can’t even ascertain if 0bama was born in the United States.


41 posted on 10/08/2008 6:35:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Don't let me interrupt your prayers for a suffering celebrity!)
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To: semantic; All

Wait until the Kenyan “problem” perks up over the next few days.
Nice try, but no dice. The media will ignore it as they always do his skeletons, and all The One has to say is “I didnt realize what kind of person Odinga was.” The voters response? “Im sure glad Obama cleared that up!” Were doomed.


42 posted on 10/08/2008 6:36:10 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: GeeMoney
Just wait until Jermome Corsi gets back. He’s got the evidence to derail the Obama campaign.

I hope and pray you are right about that.

43 posted on 10/08/2008 6:37:55 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: wingsof liberty

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2099149/posts

Remembering a Sixties Terrorist By Donna Ron FrontPageMagazine.com | Wednesday, January 04, 2006


44 posted on 10/08/2008 6:43:10 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: wingsof liberty; All

Heard on Hannity today that the author of “Obama Nation” will be presenting evidence on Monday night, on hannity and Colmes, that Obama sent emails to this guy In Kenya, his cousoin Indinga, whatever his name is,, assisting him in his campaign as well as assisting with spreading riots after the guy lost. He called the show from London today, said he has validated, documented evidence of emails and phone calls from Obama, from his Senate office.


45 posted on 10/08/2008 7:22:33 PM PDT by freemike
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