Skip to comments.AYERS-OBAMA: THE VOTERS DONíT CARE - Rick Moran
Posted on 10/08/2008 4:23:04 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
The McCain campaign is perplexed, bothered, and bewildered of late. Despite Barack Obamas past associations with radical bombers, nauseating racial bigots, and anti-semitic Palestinians, the media doesnt seem to want to expose the extent of those relationships nor ask tough questions as to how the views of these extremists might have shaped or impacted his own.
We can and in many cases we should chalk this up to a shameless bias on the part of the media toward Barack Obama and the Democrats. But something much simpler is at work, something that makes any attack on Obama by McCain using his radical associations as a backdrop to question his judgement an exercise in futility.
The voters dont care.
America did not invent the fine old custom of tar and feathering crooked, lying, corrupt charlatans and riding them out of town on a rail (the English have been doing it for 800 years). But the mood of the American voter is so outraged at the financial crisis we are in that if I were a Congressman campaigning at home, Id steer clear of pillow and asphalt factories for a while.
The fact is, the economy is of such overriding concern, all else in the campaign pales in comparison. The voter simply doesnt want to hear about Ayers, Wright, Rezko or any other problematic Obama friendship. Nor, I suspect, are they keen to relive the Keating 5 fiasco or read about any other manufactured McCain association by the press.
This piece this morning by Peter Yost of the AP is a stretch a laughably ridiculous attempt to equate John McCains tangential relationship to a group that later assisted in training El Salvadoran death squads with Obamas close, personal, association with William Ayers. Yost is sticking out his tongue and saying neener, neener, neener, hoping that the reader will nod their head and say By Jiminy! McCain hung around with terrorists too!
The problem is, Yost destroys his own case in the body of the piece:
The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe.
The councils founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member in the group.
McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes, Singlaub told The Associated Press in an interview. I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasnt left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated.
I dont recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group, Singlaub said.
McCain says he resigned from the group in 1984 and asked to have his name removed from the letterhead in 1986. Singlaub also had this to say about McCains involvement:
I dont ever remember hearing about his resigning, but I really wasnt worried about that part of our activities, a housekeeping thing, said Singlaub. If he didnt want to be on the board thats OK. It wasnt as if he had been active participant and we were going to miss his help. He had no active interest. He certainly supported us.
Compare McCains involvement with these nuts to Obamas working relationship with Ayers, their friendship going back 20 years, and Obamas clear desire to implement the radical educational agenda of Ayers when he was president of the Annenberg project. There is absolutely no symmetry here none. And yet Yost, being a good little AP hack, tries to create some out of whole cloth.
But this is a digression from the reality of what is going on in America the America not visited much by candidates and certainly not commented on by anyone in the mainstream media.
The America of ordinary, hard working people is fearful. And why shouldnt they be? If theyre like me barely able to grasp what the hell is going on in the financial markets they nevertheless know that it is unprecedented and that some very smart people are extremely worried. When 60% of us believe we are headed for a 1930s style depression, catcalls from candidates about who their friends might be simply doesnt resonate. People have much bigger worries on their minds.
Admittedly, there are precious few of these wise men who are warning of a worldwide depression. A severe downturn, yes. Perhaps even an altering of the international financial system that would not be favorable to the United States. But soup lines and massive deflation are not currently foreseeable not as long as the Fed is able to pump hundreds of billions of dollars at will into the banking system in order to keep it afloat until some semblance of confidence and order return to the markets.
How long can that go on? From Richard Fernandezs site, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard writing in the Telegraph:
During the past week, we have tipped over the edge, into the middle of the abyss. Systemic collapse is in full train. The Netherlands has just rushed through a second, more sweeping nationalisation of Fortis. Ireland and Greece have had to rescue all their banks. Iceland is facing an Argentine denouement. The US commercial paper market is closed. It shrank $95bn last week, and has lost $208bn in three weeks. The interbank lending market has seized up. There are almost no bids. It is a ghost market. Healthy companies cannot roll over debt. Some will have to sack staff today to stave off default. As the unflappable Warren Buffett puts it, the credit freeze is sucking blood out of the economy. In my adult lifetime, I dont think Ive ever seen people as fearful, he said. We are fast approaching the point of no return. The only way out of this calamitous descent is shock and awe on a global scale, and even that may not be enough.
In the first full trad ing day following the bailout, stocks lost 370 points. Yes, there are alarmists out there (Paul Krugman, please go on a nice, long vacation. I hear Bellvue has some padded rooms with wonderful views.). But when Warren Buffet gets nervous, the American people who are fearful dont appear quite so stupid and naive, now do they?
The bottom line is that attacks on character are being ignored at the moment by the voter. All they want to hear is what each candidate will do to protect them from this financial storm that is sinking so many huge and seemingly indestructible companies. The thinking goes, If Lehman Brothers can go under, am I next? In a free country, people have a very proprietary sense of their own money and how safe it is.
They dont have to be told things could get a lot worse. They sense it, as a deer might sense a wolf nearby. It cant smell the wolf but it senses danger nevertheless. Voters may not entirely understand the ins and outs of international finance, but they sense their money, their livelihoods are in peril.Hence, all other issues of the campaign the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran, education, abortion, gun rights the whole mish mash of topics that have been fought over and discussed in this campaign now take a seat at the back of the bus as the voter wants his questions answered on the economy.
Hugh Hewitt seems optimistic that if McCain can keep hammering Obama on Ayers while showing the voters how disasterous an Obama presidency would be for the economy, he might still pull it out:
As more details emerge on the Obama-Ayers connection (heres a short story from 1997 on Ayers that features both Obamas and which suggests that Michelle Obama organized the program that featured both Ayers and her husband), the Obama talking heads are hysterical with outrage, which is a clear signal to Team McCain to keep digging and swinging on the subject of Obamas judgement. Just who, after all, does he intend to staff the 3,000 executive branch jobs with? Who will be at Defense and Justice and Treasury and State?.
The message also has to be targeted at the reality that the dizzying declines in the markets cannot be arrested and reversed with tax hikes and unemployment benefit extensions. Even as people shudder at the rapid decline in their savings and retirement accounts, they have to be trusted to know that anti-growth polices of the sort being pushed by Obama will simply drive business, jobs and growth overseas. A tax hike agenda of the sort pushed by Obama right now is economic suicide, and John McCain has to forcefully say so.
If raising taxes and extending unemployment is what it is going to take to keep voters money safe, they would be willing to vote for the devil himself. Obama might not have good ideas on what to do about the crisis. But that isnt the point. It comes down to who the voters believe. And the sad fact is John McCain, as a member of the party in power in the White House, has about as much credibility on the economy as my pet cat Snowball.
I wish it were otherwise. The more we find out about Obamas relationship with Ayers the more I am troubled. Even more troubling has been a systematic campaign by Obama and his handlers to minimize and even lie about this relationship at every turn. Despite yeoman work done by David Freddoso and Stanley Kurtz of The National Review on how Obama helped Ayers try and implement some frighteningly radical educational ideas on the unsuspecting parents and schoolchildren of Chicago, it appears that it will all go for naught. The voter sees the effort by the McCain campaign to attack Obama on his radical associations as just playing politics.
And that is something they dont want to see. They are hopping mad and scared. Thats a combination that Obama is having little trouble exploiting to his own advantage.
By: Rick Moran at 6:46 am
hosepipe pointed me to this article:
No question that being in the incumbent party is a big disadvantage when the country is going to a hot place in a handbasket.
As for the ties. I really don’t know if they are impacting anyone who needs to be impacted. Everyone I work with or know socially is more or less decided. I don’t know enough folks in the mushy middle to know if this is swaying them at all.
zero is no longer surging and America does care... some Americans are just now starting to pay attention. obammy will lose.
If the Republicans would actually USE the debates to get the truth out they wouldn’t be such whimps and use the verbal ammo that they have, but NOOOOOO.... We want to play kissy-face with the Velociraptor.
I agree for the first time, I am recieving e-mails about Obama from my brother in-law in Arizona.
I am usually the one to send them out, but now everyone is pretty disgusted!
This Ayers is just the beginning, now Odinga....ya it will matter!
If the voters do not care, then there was no point in writing this article. It would neither draw an audience (money) or change a person's mind (vote).
Americans are now amoral in most every respect. They elect the President the way the vote for contestants on "American Idol". The Founders said that our Republic would die when The People lose their Faith and become ignorant of the Constitution.
It grieves to to even think this, but I fear this the Great Experiment has failed. The Sheeple are even cheering for that destruction.
Probably not, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have some.
Frankly, I think even the AA voters are concerned ~ but they're all wrapped up in a "let's vote for the first brother" emotions.
At the same time the pollsters are simply dropping non-responses from their analysis ~ those are the 20% of white Democrats who will never vote for an AA. This distorts things a bit and makes it look like Obama has a couple of percentage points lead.
In reality he's probably 10 points down.
What’s this whining about?
Jeremiah Wright tapes were played DAY and NIGHT for weeks on almost EVERY channel.
Ayers was beaten to death on ABC during Primary Debate.
Everyone has seen the soundbite of Sister Sarah calling That-one freind of a terrorist and sees America differently.
No one cares about past skeletons.
Economy is all people care about and besides “Tax Cuts” for mostly wealthy, what’s the plan?
Poor Bob Dole saying "Where's the OUTRAGE" springs to mind......being immoral is a Democrat ENHANCEMENT!
Rick is a handservant for the dems, or has he had a brainfart?
The McCain campaign has to keep drilling this issue into the nation's consciousness, and tell Americans that Obama is not guilty by association, but that he himself believes in what the likes of Ayers are trying to do to our nation.
The greatest underlying cause behind the fact that voters don’t seem to care is that these voters don’t care enough about the country to do any meaningful research on their own into the candidates, or they don’t have the thinking power to do so. (Either way is similarly depressing.)
The greatest practical cause behind the fact that voters don’t seem to care is the fact that the MSM are corrupt and vacuous, both intellectually and morally. Even if they present the truth about Obama, if that presentation is done in a way that makes it seem like it’s no big deal, then the voters won’t care. Sad but true. If they were to present the truth with the gravitas/frequency/intensity with which they would present it regarding any Republican, then the voters would care.
I have said for the past several years that this election would prompt the greatest propaganda campaign in the history of the planet, and that this election would be a barometer of how much power the MSM have left. If they have enough power left to swing an election, Obama wins. If not, McCain wins. Although it paints a very poor prognosis for the future thriving of America, it’s obvious that tens of millions of Americans still lap up what the MSM put before them.
This is the most ridiculous article. To claim the attacks are not working when they just started? Puhlease.
As the author said, "they don't care"
It's 1992 all over again......Bill Clinton was a slimy dude with a lot of baggage and illicit associations. When the people were told about this, they yawned and chanted....
Hope, Change, blah blah blah
Facts and being responsible does not matter to these people.
Obama surging? LoL!.
Oh, Ayers is relevant alright and it will have an bad impact on Obama.
Yep...the 'rats are wise to this, knowing better than Republicans that maybe a tiny percentage read beyond the first paragraph.
It's just like here in California, as I predicted before our stupid recall a few years ago that inserted Arnie; our mess will forever be a Republican guilt burden.
These are irreversibly perceived as Republican Fiascos....and will be for election cycle after election cycle after election cycle.
Pretty slick, I gotta admit, how the left turned themselves into the party of "fiscal responsibility"; nothing like having a teetsucking press covering your ass, I guess.
People better care.
There is the reason Clinton won in 1992.
A picture is worth a thousand words!
That picture puts a face on Ayers as well as putting a face on his other associations and needs little explanation!
McCain should hold that photo up to the people and to Obama at the next debate,, ask Obama to explain why he chose to launch his political future out of that mans living room!
Show the photo!
Start by using Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh in the same sentence. People will start to care.
It’s not that it wasn’t mentioned before, because it has. The problem is that it hasn’t been fully investigated....we need to follow it to “ground”.
The news media has spent more time and effort in vetting Sarah’s kids than they have obama.
Also, I’m not only concerned about his acquaintances, but also very interested in those years he was in college. Seems like a black hole.... wonder why?
I was telling someone at work, this would be a good plot for a spy book where the old KGB plants a mole years ago and slowly waits for the right time to make a move. BTW..another curious question (may have been answered already)...how did he pay for all this “upscale” education? Was he funded? Follow the money.....
I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory...but how can we say it’s not, until the light is turned on and the facts are on the table?
I chalk that up to the people not caring. They didn't like Bush and wanted to punish him, even if we got Slick. The same will happen this time, but BO is worse than Slick.
Don't get me wrong, I have a heap of problems with the RINO party, but voting for anyone else IS A VOTE FOR THE RATS.
The time to deal with the RINOs was in the primaries. We failed to do that, but let's not add insult to injury.
The biggest thing Obama’s supporters care about is how much free stuff they’re going to get from the government. The only way to make them doubt him is to make them realize they won’t be getting what he promises. I know that’s challenging, but harping on Ayers & stuff is only preaching to the choir - his supporters could care less about that.
Oh ya, heck I care...what’s the connection?
Americans don't know jack about the economy.
The world is a much more dangerous place today as well.
Our country survived the Clinton presidency reasonably well. I'm not at all convinced the same will be true of an Obama presidency.
Really? One of my wife's professional colleagues is a big Hussein supporter (female, pro-choice). Not a luncheon goes by without her spewing some invective directed towards Palin.
Now here's the weird thing: her oldest son is in the Army medical corps (based in Hawaii). Her reaction to the Hussein/Ayers relationship? She simply doesn't believe it's true; none of it.
It's not that she doesn't care - she simply denies that it's true. How many others are in a state of shock/denial regarding their chosen One? Wait until the Kenyan "problem" perks up over the next few days.
I don't believe that people really understand how horrific the Weathermen were, but we do understand what Mc Veigh did. Pointing out McVeigh's actions as to who Bill Ayers really is may help people understand how incredibly dangerous this guy is.
Ayers is an individual who should have NO ASSOCIATION with anyone who is running for President.
I hope to God your right. By the way, if all that was necessary to run the free world was flowery speeches and the ability to read off a teleprompter, I would vote for The One myself!
The greatest practical cause behind the fact that voters dont seem to care is the fact that the MSM are corrupt and vacuous, both intellectually and morally. Even if they present the truth about Obama, if that presentation is done in a way that makes it seem like its no big deal, then the voters wont care. Sad but true. If they were to present the truth with the gravitas/frequency/intensity with which they would present it regarding any Republican, then the voters would care.
Exactly! If Obama had been properly vetted like any other candidate should have been, he wouldnt be so damned popular. We cant have that from the Lamestream Media, can we?
McCain should hold that photo up to the people and to Obama at the next debate,, ask Obama to explain why he chose to launch his political future out of that mans living room!
Michelle Malkin said it best: For Obama to claim he didnt know about Ayers past means he is either A) The most ignorant politician in the world or B) a liar. Neither quality is particularly favorable for a presidential candidate.
The only way to make them doubt him is to make them realize they wont be getting what he promises.
Lets not kid ourselves here - the hard core Obama Kool-Aid drinkers would support him even if he tuned out to be a mass murderer.
“It’s 1992 all over again......Bill Clinton was a slimy dude with a lot of baggage and illicit associations.”
First, 57% of the people voted AGAINST Bill Clinton in 1992. He only pulld in 43% of the vote. Perot sucked off alot of votes from Bush Sr. Clinton won 12 states by less than 3% that year. If Perot isn’t ther, Bush wins.
Second, People do care. They just don’t know. Many non partisian voters who didn’t pay attention during the Primaries are hearing about Ayers and Rezko and Wright for the first time.
Just wait until Jermome Corsi gets back. He’s got the evidence to derail the Obama campaign.
I’m not at all convinced the same will be true of an Obama presidency.
Thank you. I didnt much care for Bubba, but I am PETRIFIED of Obama. I firmly beleive that if he becomes POTUS, this country will in 4 years, at worst - lay in ruins, and at best, bear a striking resemblance to the USSR of the 70s
Voters don’t care, voters are uninformed, voters are complacent. Voters foolishly believe, as many here do, that we have the most perfect political system in the world, unbreakable, insubvertible, and having two political parties is just fine and dandy. Some fool here flamed me a few months ago saying that it was Thomas Jefferson hisself (or one of those dead guys) who said that you’re either for federalism or against it, and that’s plenty enough for this country as far as governing ideas are concerned.
Well, guess what. One Saul Alinsky, and one Bill Ayers, figured out these weaknesses themselves and then took the next logical step which was to infiltrate one of those two parties, and present a perfect non-threatening, non-eubonics speaking negro as a Presidential candidate. Beats blowing oneself up in a Greenwich Village townhouse.
Voters don’t care because they figured out a long time ago that such subversion was not possible and that mechanisms existed to properly vet the candidates. Wrong! “The mechanisms” can’t even ascertain if 0bama was born in the United States.
Wait until the Kenyan “problem” perks up over the next few days.
Nice try, but no dice. The media will ignore it as they always do his skeletons, and all The One has to say is “I didnt realize what kind of person Odinga was.” The voters response? “Im sure glad Obama cleared that up!” Were doomed.
I hope and pray you are right about that.
Remembering a Sixties Terrorist By Donna Ron FrontPageMagazine.com | Wednesday, January 04, 2006
Heard on Hannity today that the author of “Obama Nation” will be presenting evidence on Monday night, on hannity and Colmes, that Obama sent emails to this guy In Kenya, his cousoin Indinga, whatever his name is,, assisting him in his campaign as well as assisting with spreading riots after the guy lost. He called the show from London today, said he has validated, documented evidence of emails and phone calls from Obama, from his Senate office.