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Decision to teach kids to be 'gay' allowed to stand.
WND ^ | 10/08/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/09/2008 5:22:05 AM PDT by kindred

A federal court decision approving mandatory public school instruction for children as young as kindergarten in how to be homosexual is being allowed to stand, drawing a description of "despicable" from the parent who unsuccessfully challenged his school district's "gay" advocacy agenda.

The U.S. Supreme Court without comment has refused to intervene in a case prompted by the actions of officials at Estabrook Elementary school in Lexington, Mass., who not only were teaching homosexuality to young children, but specifically refused to allow Christian parents to opt their children out of the indoctrination.

The case on which WND has reported previously involves Massachusetts father David Parker, who with his wife now have withdrawn their children from public schools, for which they continue to pay taxes, and are homeschooling.

The decision by the Supreme Court leaves standing the ruling from the appeals court for Massachusetts, where Judge Sandra Lynch said those who are concerned over such civil rights violations "may seek recourse to the normal political processes for change in the town and state."

Earlier District Judge Mark Wolf had ordered that school officials' work to undermine Christian beliefs and teach homosexuality is needed to prepare children for citizenship, and if parents don't like it they can elect a different school committee or homeschool their children.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: children; davidparker; homeschoolingisgood; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; indoctrinate; indoctrination; perversion; pervertedmarriage; perverts; queers; robertscourt; ruling; scotus; sodomites; tyranny; wnd
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America is fallen, fallen to the ground.
1 posted on 10/09/2008 5:22:06 AM PDT by kindred
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To: kindred

Maybe it is time to pull the piece out of the closet and work out from under tyranny. The government is no longer representing The People on any issue.


2 posted on 10/09/2008 5:25:09 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: kindred
We're doomed.

This is not sarcasm.

3 posted on 10/09/2008 5:26:43 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: tpanther; metmom

Ping.


4 posted on 10/09/2008 5:27:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (BO [my plane stinks] Change is BS Change. Ayers+Raines+ACORN=RICO)
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To: GingisK
Well, that too, but did anyone there think to file criminal charges against these pedophiles?

I know New Englanders are "soft" on the matter ~ presumably it's a widespread problem, particularly in most of the "best families", but they still have statutes on the books that could be used to haul these perverts away from the shools.

5 posted on 10/09/2008 5:29:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: P-Marlowe

There’s hope. We must fight for better justices.


6 posted on 10/09/2008 5:29:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (BO [my plane stinks] Change is BS Change. Ayers+Raines+ACORN=RICO)
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To: kindred
if parents don't like it they can elect a different school committee or homeschool their children.

Fine, then refund my property taxes that pay for public indoctrination.

7 posted on 10/09/2008 5:29:42 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: metmom

ping


8 posted on 10/09/2008 5:31:14 AM PDT by JenB
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To: kindred
Allowing/teaching homosexually is OK but allowing God/Christianity is banned?

We are truly in the end times....

9 posted on 10/09/2008 5:36:40 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: kindred

CHICAGO PUBLIC RADIO

City RoomTM Public Affairs coverage from our award-winning staff

Education

Gay Pride High School Clears Hurdle

A new high school geared for gay students in Chicago has cleared an important hurdle. It’s one of 18 new schools proposed by the district Wednesday.

Experts say gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender teens are more likely to abuse drugs, drop out of school and commit suicide.

Chicago schools chief Arne Duncan on Wednesday announced he’s backing a plan to provide them a safer environment in a new school.

DUNCAN: We’re looking to create great new options in neighborhoods around the city. The more we empower students and parents to pick the school that best suits them, the better they’re going to do.

But Laurie Higgins of the Illinois Family Institute says the proposed school would misuse public funds.

HIGGINS: It assumes a certain perspective on the nature and morality of homosexuality that taxpayers should not be asked to subsidize.

The proposal has also drawn fire from some gay rights advocates who say the school could isolate the students.

The plan goes before the Board of Education for a vote October 22.

I’m Chip Mitchell, Chicago Public Radio.

http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=29418


10 posted on 10/09/2008 5:37:30 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: muawiyah

It does no good if the liberal activist judges are just as rotten as the school board.

And if we have a far left POTUS, far left congress AND a far left SCOTUS, we’re screwed not just in MASS.


11 posted on 10/09/2008 5:39:16 AM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: kindred

The stench of what America has become.


12 posted on 10/09/2008 5:40:11 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: kindred

Strange headline. Given that this is WND, I can’t help but wonder what parts of the story are missing.


13 posted on 10/09/2008 5:40:52 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
There’s hope. We must fight for better justices.

This is endemic. We must pray for revival. There is no political solution for this disease.

14 posted on 10/09/2008 5:40:54 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: kindred

This is what acceptance of homosexuality gets us, folks. Give an inch, lose a mile. Many on this forum have been painted as hate-filled, homophobic bigots for taking any kind of stand against the pervasive acceptance of an unnatural lifestyle. What is happening in public schools is nothing more than the result of that acceptance.


15 posted on 10/09/2008 5:42:11 AM PDT by grellis (SISTERHOOD OF SARAH God. Guns. Hockey.)
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To: KeyLargo
This sort of segregation violates Brown v. standards. Probably unconstitutional.

There's no evidence whatsoever that assembling all the homosexuals in one spot reduces their suicide incidence.

16 posted on 10/09/2008 5:42:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kindred

“...mandatory public school instruction for children as young as kindergarten in how to be homosexual...”

WTF??????????????????

Instruction on “how to be”??????

This can’t be true....

These “teachers” would all be hospitalized by now in my neck of the woods....


18 posted on 10/09/2008 5:52:01 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: kindred

The US Supreme Court cannot possibly overturn a ruling that states that parents need to work within their communities to make curriculum changes. Parents also have the option to place their children in private schools, move to a different state or homeschool.

The far-reaching implications of a federal court getting involved in curriculum can be easily seen if one just looks back at the Scopes Evolution Trial. Their ruling that the State of Tenn could not ban the teaching of evolution has been twisted into a belief that there is a requirement to teach evolution.

SCOTUS had no choice but to stay out of this one.


19 posted on 10/09/2008 5:52:40 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: kindred

20 posted on 10/09/2008 5:53:12 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: P-Marlowe

“There is no political solution for this disease.”

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.


21 posted on 10/09/2008 5:55:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (BO [my plane stinks] Change is BS Change. Ayers+Raines+ACORN=RICO)
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To: GingisK

The government is no longer representing the people is right, they are run amuk and do whatever they want. The government is now communist run and the politicians of DC no longer represent Americans at all.


22 posted on 10/09/2008 5:55:17 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservative for Chuck Balwin,McCain is a liberal,Obama a communist.)
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To: TaxRelief

private school and home school is a meaningless option unless it accompanies the option to not pay taxes to support the public schools.


23 posted on 10/09/2008 5:55:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: gracesdad

WND has been slandered on many occasions as the articles are from other papers. I believe they are misrepresented because thay tell more truth than most papers and many people, mostly leftist and some conservatives, do not like the truth and can not handle it but would rather dismiss it as a lie.


24 posted on 10/09/2008 5:57:52 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservative for Chuck Balwin,McCain is a liberal,Obama a communist.)
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To: kindred
"Is it merely coincidental that homeschooling was outlawed by the Soviet State in 1919, by Hitler and Nazi Germany in 1938 and by Communist China in 1949?"
   ----Chuck Norris, Texan crime fighter

25 posted on 10/09/2008 5:58:23 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Those who are kind to the cruel, in the end will be cruel to the kind.)
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To: Obadiah

[The stench of what America has become.]

Never thought I would see the day.


26 posted on 10/09/2008 5:59:27 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservative for Chuck Balwin,McCain is a liberal,Obama a communist.)
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To: GingisK

I have an idea, we could form a “secret society” and stop registering our babies into the system. It’s to late for us, we’re already registered. The new Americans would be home schooled and taught skills they could make a living at for cash. They wouldn’t pay S.S. or income tax. They would need some assistance from we old “registered” for some things. They will be able to use the existing currency and infrastructure. Eventually, as their numbers grow, the old America will collapse under it’s own weight as the tax base dies out.


27 posted on 10/09/2008 5:59:31 AM PDT by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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To: kindred

Being a Mass resident, I’ve loosly followed this case...but I’m wondering where the part is about “teaching kids TO BE gay” as the headline states.

There’s a difference between “teaching kids ABOUT homosexual relationships with a ‘Billy has 2 daddy’s’” book”, “teaching kids that homosexual relationships are normal or natural”...

....and “teaching kids TO BE gay.”

Sensationalist headlines abound!!

(and please leave the strawmen at the door)


28 posted on 10/09/2008 6:00:11 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27th Infantry Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Senior citizens pay school taxes. Childless adults pay school taxes.

We all pay taxes to support medicare, but we don’t care free medical care because of we do.

The very nature of taxation of the masses with redistribution to the few should be of concern to everyone.


29 posted on 10/09/2008 6:04:23 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Boiling point

Good idea wxcept for the fact that soon, money as we know it, will cease to exist....we are moving ever closer to “plastic” money...Direct deposit, debit cards, credit cards will replace physical “money”...

Soon after, the “convenience” of having a chip “implant” under the skin will replace the plastic cards... This is when the government will have complete control over you...

No telling what will be programmed into these chips...Your location can be monitered 100% of the time, your “money” can be shut off without your knowledge...

I know this is “conspiracy theory” but it eems where we are headed...


30 posted on 10/09/2008 6:04:52 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: kindred

So do they have them rimming each other or what?


31 posted on 10/09/2008 6:05:29 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: All

Sorry...I know I got off the subject..My apologies...


32 posted on 10/09/2008 6:06:12 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: TaxRelief

What about the “no opt out” bit? I could see your point without that lovely addition to the ruling, but it goes along with some court cases in California that basically said once you put your child in a gubmint school, that’s it, you have no more say.

I’m glad I was homeschooled, glad we’ll be homeschooling.


33 posted on 10/09/2008 6:07:49 AM PDT by JenB
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To: kindred

as a social scientist teaching and researching on educational studies (though on different topics) I ask: what does “teaching homosexuality” mean? telling children that this phenomenon exists oder presenting it as a desirable way to have a relationship?


34 posted on 10/09/2008 6:08:20 AM PDT by sciencefreeper
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To: ElectricStrawberry

BTTT


35 posted on 10/09/2008 6:08:22 AM PDT by sciencefreeper
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To: sandyeggo

[The U.S. Supreme Court without comment has refused to intervene in a case prompted by the actions of officials at Estabrook Elementary school in Lexington, Mass.]

Unbelievable.


36 posted on 10/09/2008 6:09:19 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservative for Chuck Balwin,McCain is a liberal,Obama a communist.)
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To: sciencefreeper

What’s your guess?

If you say anything less than

the teacher is indoctrinating the youngsters into “celebrating the alternative lifestyle”,

you’re naive.


37 posted on 10/09/2008 6:12:07 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: littlehouse36

“If we continue to send our children to Cesar for their education, they’ll continue to come home as Romans.”

“When they come for my children, they will have to rip them from my cold, dead, hands.”

Dr. Voddie Baucham Jr.


38 posted on 10/09/2008 6:15:52 AM PDT by uptoolate (I will be voting for a real conservative, and she just arrived)
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To: kindred

Palin started her venture at the PTA because she saw something in the school system she didn’t like.

Just a thought.


39 posted on 10/09/2008 6:17:17 AM PDT by uptoolate (I will be voting for a real conservative, and she just arrived)
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To: kindred
"may seek recourse to the normal political processes for change in the town and state."

Doesn't MA have a rich history of tar and feathers being included in the 'normal political processes for change'?

L

40 posted on 10/09/2008 6:17:19 AM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: kindred

Let’s teach them how to share heroin needles. It’s just as safe and wholesome as fagggotry!


41 posted on 10/09/2008 6:17:32 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: JenB

The “opt-out option” is there in essence. The parents can opt out by changing schools. It doesn’t seem fair, but unless public education becomes mandatory and assigned, the Supreme Court really can’t get involved.


42 posted on 10/09/2008 6:19:51 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief

So the Massachusetts court is saying “keep paying your taxes, shut up, and either let us indoctrinate your kid, or put him in private school/homeschool.”

Fine by me, I think government schools are wrong and would never use one, but it irks me that my money pays for them.


43 posted on 10/09/2008 6:24:54 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

Public School parents do have a say, by the way. They have the right of assembly, and can organize and educate fellow parents and community members about the content of the curriculum.

This is one thing libs do better than conservatives.
Women marched to get the vote.
Blacks marched to get civil rights.

Conservatives can march to get “opt-out” options for sex-ed.


44 posted on 10/09/2008 6:25:17 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: gracesdad

A lot of times these cases get bumped because of technical reasons and yet headlines and summaries often give the impression that a court looked into the merits of a case and ruled for one party or another. As I read this, the appeal to the Supreme Court was turned down. The Supreme Court accepts only a small proportion of the cases appealed there, for a couple of reasons: first, a lot of cases don’t belong there and the court has a prejudice against ruling on a case unless it is absolutely necessary; second, because a whole lot of time and effort is taken up by criminal cases which get automatic appeal to the Supreme Court (so, yes, criminals get more rights than the law-abiding).

In this case I don’t have the decision here but it appears it might have been dismissed as moot. That ruling doesn’t mean there aren’t legitimate issues to be raised but if a party is no longer personally involved in the case, the court will not let it make the case for those still involved. Any plaintiff has to have a direct and personal interest in the case and, since the Parkers have taken their children out of the public school system, they no longer have that direct and personal interest. I’m not even sure it is possible at this point to substitute another party in their place.


45 posted on 10/09/2008 6:26:46 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: kindred

It is time to form a NEW Continental Congress. We, the People, have been ignored by our representatives for far too long.


46 posted on 10/09/2008 6:27:40 AM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Anima Mundi; Antoninus; arbooz; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

If ever there was a reason to homeschool.....

This one has to be at the top of the list.

If the public education establishment wants to encourage homeschooling, this is certainly the way to go about it.

47 posted on 10/09/2008 6:31:00 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MrB
Fine, then refund my property taxes that pay for public indoctrination.

My thoughts exactly. It is a matter of record now. A judge saying you should put your kids in another system of education. The man should sue the government for the taxes that he has paid into the system.

48 posted on 10/09/2008 6:31:44 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: wagglebee; Gabz; WKB; Salvation

ping


49 posted on 10/09/2008 6:31:52 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MrB

Well, depends on how you frame this phenomenon. I guess that how to be-instructions were not passing, so there’s a wide range of possible connotations and I heard nothing about which were preferred....

These days, I’m a bit tired of doomsday hymns...


50 posted on 10/09/2008 6:35:16 AM PDT by sciencefreeper
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