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Tracking Polls Continue Trend towards McCain
realclearpolitics ^ | OCT 9 2008 | housedeep

Posted on 10/09/2008 6:35:45 AM PDT by housedeep

Battlegroun O 48 M 45 (gain of 1 for M) Rasmussen O 50 M 45 (gain of 1 for M)

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; mccain; obama; poll; pollspoll
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1 posted on 10/09/2008 6:35:45 AM PDT by housedeep
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To: housedeep

John Zogby said the race mirrors the 1980 election, when voters didn’t embrace Ronald Reagan over then-President Jimmy Carter until just days before the election.

“The Sunday before the election the dam burst,” Zogby said of the 1980 tilt. “That’s when voters determined they were comfortable with Reagan.”

Now voters are wrestling with two senators with opposite resumes - Obama, at 47, the unknown, and the established 72-year-old McCain.


2 posted on 10/09/2008 6:37:53 AM PDT by IrishMike (Gov Sarah Palin - Gun control is hitting what you shoot at)
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To: housedeep

Finally a little good news. Keep the faith. We’re gaining.


3 posted on 10/09/2008 6:38:33 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: housedeep

When this is combined with the other polls showing a gap of 2 to 3 points, it’s still for the taking.


4 posted on 10/09/2008 6:38:35 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: housedeep

All of the polls seem pretty tight including Zogby, but what’s with that Gallup Tracking?


5 posted on 10/09/2008 6:38:35 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: housedeep
Ah, for once and at last: some good news.
6 posted on 10/09/2008 6:39:00 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: IrishMike

i have said all along i think its a late break towards McCain in the last 72 hours of the election

McCain has razor thin victory with 274 electoral votes


7 posted on 10/09/2008 6:39:38 AM PDT by housedeep
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To: housedeep

Here’s what I want: a side-by-side of ALL the polls currently, and at this point, last election, with the actual final results.


8 posted on 10/09/2008 6:39:49 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: housedeep

Ras gave Barry a lead of 9 points just a day or so ago. That means that McCain must have had some really good polling.


9 posted on 10/09/2008 6:40:13 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: BibChr

Gallup idiots are tracking registered voters, not likely. I believe it’s intentional.


10 posted on 10/09/2008 6:40:24 AM PDT by Galtoid ( .)
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To: housedeep

The more voters learn about Obama’s RADICAL past and radical intentions, the less they want that kind of “change”.


11 posted on 10/09/2008 6:40:31 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: IrishMike

I was thinking about that too!


12 posted on 10/09/2008 6:40:33 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: housedeep

Amen people,we`re having an impact!Keep up the REAL truth squad,keep hammering away.


13 posted on 10/09/2008 6:40:46 AM PDT by nomad
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
but what’s with that Gallup Tracking?


14 posted on 10/09/2008 6:41:32 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: BibChr

I would like to see the same thing. The tracking polls at this time 4 years ago


15 posted on 10/09/2008 6:41:54 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: InterceptPoint
This may be more than just a little “good news”. It seems many of the pollsters over-sample DEMS, so when it got to single digits, or within their “margin of error”, it indicated to me anyway that McCain may actually be ahead.
16 posted on 10/09/2008 6:42:25 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: nomad

Maybe people don’t like guys who hang out with terrorists and it’s sticking.


17 posted on 10/09/2008 6:42:29 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: housedeep

i still think Rasmussen has a deeply flawed poll

but i do believe in seeing trends...and there is a sure trend back towards mccain.


18 posted on 10/09/2008 6:46:41 AM PDT by housedeep
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To: housedeep
Despite the gains, McCain will have to do better in the next debate than in the last snore fest. While Obama was glib he was just repeating the same old mantras. McCain needs to take lessons from Palin and get some fire in the belly and call Obama on the carpet about Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. How about asking Lord Obama what he thinks about those who call on God to curse America.
19 posted on 10/09/2008 6:52:29 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: toddausauras
Maybe people don’t like guys who hang out with terrorists and it’s sticking.

At a minimum, it is causing some people to question how much they/we know about Obama. Hopefully those include some of the undecided/swing voters.

20 posted on 10/09/2008 6:57:43 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: housedeep
still think Rasmussen has a deeply flawed poll

So is Zogby. I was one of those polled by him a couple of years ago and since the last election he dropped me from his contact lists. I think I was too biased to the ummmm right. For example I would fill out a "Pre-Debate" survey and then ask to be e-mailed the "Post-Debate" followup and it would never happen. I think Zogby "cherry picks" the poll answers so he gets a result that he wants in order to benefit his business AND benefit liberals.

21 posted on 10/09/2008 7:04:08 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: CatOwner

If anything it seems like McCain got a very small boost from the other night’s debate. Surprising since CNN and CBS said their polls showed obama won by some ridiculous margins.

Just maybe all that talk of landslide is a tad premature.


22 posted on 10/09/2008 7:06:02 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: The Great RJ
Despite the gains, McCain will have to do better in the next debate than in the last snore fest. While Obama was glib he was just repeating the same old mantras. McCain needs to take lessons from Palin and get some fire in the belly and call Obama on the carpet about Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. How about asking Lord Obama what he thinks about those who call on God to curse America.

I'm not sure Ayers has a lot of traction in a debate. Remember that these debates are presumably trying to reach undecided voters. Most of these undecideds idiots don't know who Ayers even is or who the Weathermen were. They also neither know nor care about Rezko. If McCain brings them up in a debate, he has to first educate the viewers as to what he is talking about.

If he wants to hit Obama with these guys, he has to do better than Bill O'Reilly, who merely asked general questions like "What about Ayers? What about Rezko? What about Rev. Wright?", giving Obama an easy out when he merely claimed he hardly knew the people in question. Rev. Wright has the most traction IMO because Obama and family attended the church for twenty years. Even if Obama tries to sidestep Wright, one can come back with Obama's own words in his self-adulatory autobiographies as to how important Wright was as a spiritual mentor and father-figure.

Of course, with these undecideds idiots, any such attack may come off as mean. I think McCain did well in the last debate by coming off as calm and reasoned. If, as many here have stated, this election is a referendum on Obama, then McCain may have gained ground in the last debate by appearing to be the guy to trust in the hard times to come.

23 posted on 10/09/2008 7:09:30 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: TNCMAXQ
It's hard to say. McCain was getting nailed in the polls due to the economic news. So, Congress passes a bailout bill and the stock markets still tank. The Fed steps in to help, and at least initially, the markets continue downward.

Maybe some people (excluding liberals!) have figured out that McCain is not at fault for the economy. If the economy becomes a neutral issue in that neither candidate has an advantage, then McCain will come out ahead.

24 posted on 10/09/2008 7:10:15 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: ExSoldier
I don't think Zogby is on the up and up either. I used to get polls about politics and I was strictly right wing. I got a poll a few days ago and it was about which expensive car I wanted. I DON'T WANT A MAZARATTI YOU A-HOLE, I AM A TRUCKIN’ WOMAN, I DRIVE A TAHOE!
25 posted on 10/09/2008 7:10:33 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Sans-Culotte

“Even if Obama tries to sidestep Wright, one can come back with Obama’s own words in his self-adulatory autobiographies as to how important Wright was as a spiritual mentor and father-figure.”


Did Obama record a “book on tape” for his autobiographies? If so, the McCain campaign could literally use Obama’s own voice along with his own words praising Wright and saying how important he is in his life. An ad with Obama reading from his own autobiography, while the screen shows Jeremiah Wright along with the words of his most vicious sermons, could be very effective.


26 posted on 10/09/2008 7:13:39 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: TNCMAXQ

I think you should let the Obots believe victory is at hand. The types he attracts (the lazy, the slovenly, the government hand out types) won’t get out of bed on election day.

By the time they shuffle over to the Social Security Office out of their drunken stupor, it will be Wednesday afternoon seeing people in tears about President-Elect McCain.


27 posted on 10/09/2008 7:14:44 AM PDT by rom (Cold on McCain '08. Enthusiastic about McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I am still concerned about the state polls. Let’s see if they start to trend back in the next day or so. I can’t believe NC, IN are in play. McCain has to hold all of W’s states and right now he is trailing in all of them, except MO I think. The MSM keeps harping on this, plus Obama is running Ads 3:1 in these states. Also, I can’t believe Fox news is running Obama ads??? How many Obama supporters watch Fox? Seems like a waste of $$ to me....


28 posted on 10/09/2008 7:19:25 AM PDT by davek70
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To: housedeep
I have said this in other threads:

Most polls have a large enough group of "undecided" voters to push one or the other over the top and through the margin of error. I have a tendency to believe most people find pollsters as intrusive and annoying as Jehovah's Witnesses at your door. Saying I'm undecided makes them just go away. I don't really believe there are that many people who have not decided one way or another. I also don't believe they're voting for Obama, either.

29 posted on 10/09/2008 7:23:49 AM PDT by edpc
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Unlike in years past, they are reporting the Registered Voters poll and not the Likely Voter breakout to show a bigger lead for Fauxbama. Usually, they have about +6 for the Republican when looking at LV.


30 posted on 10/09/2008 7:32:03 AM PDT by jps098
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To: IrishMike

I like to point out that the last time a Democrat ran against an unpopular Republican president who wasn’t on the ballot we got Jimmy Carter. The point usually works well on anyone that lived through the Carter years.


31 posted on 10/09/2008 7:32:29 AM PDT by Red Dog #1 (Up is down and down is up...)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Did Obama record a “book on tape” for his autobiographies?

He did, because Hugh Hewitt has played excerpts from both The Audacity of Hope and Dreams From My Father on the radio. However, I do not know if they are complete or abridged.

32 posted on 10/09/2008 7:34:47 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: The Great RJ

Bring up Obama’s brother. If everybody learns about Obama’s brother, they won’t vote for him.


33 posted on 10/09/2008 7:45:22 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Just maybe all that talk of landslide is a tad premature.

It's all designed to demoralize the right and keep them home. Ignore the polls and continue on fighting.
34 posted on 10/09/2008 7:56:05 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: housedeep
McCain has razor thin victory with 274 electoral votes

Does that include the massive ACORN voter fraud that will occur nationwide this year?

35 posted on 10/09/2008 7:56:20 AM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: housedeep

If McCain is gaining ground it certainly has nothing to do with Tuesday’s debate. I think emails being circulated on the internet with real information about Obama are starting to help McCain. I probably get 4 or 5 a day.


36 posted on 10/09/2008 7:58:48 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: housedeep
Maybe...but I'm hedging my bets:


37 posted on 10/09/2008 8:00:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Government that is powerful enough to protect you is only one election away from attacking you.)
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To: housedeep

BTTT


38 posted on 10/09/2008 8:00:31 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: housedeep

It’s time to drop the “Raila Odinga” bomb. A real game changer when looking at Obama’s associations with bad people.


39 posted on 10/09/2008 8:01:25 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: CatOwner

Exactly, this is what was working so well minths ago - the “who is this guy” thing. Actually the debates kind of suck because people see Obama and think that they know him.


40 posted on 10/09/2008 8:24:33 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: housedeep

“McCain has razor thin victory with 274 electoral votes”

That’s your optimistic prediction? Geez, you’re awful pessimistic for an optimist. If you’re wrong by one 5 electoral vote state, Obama wins. Over on the dem side, they’re predicting 350 electoral votes for Obama. See, that’s how you do optimism.

Hard to be optimistic when McCain abandons Michigan. That’s my state. I can’t help resenting that decision a little bit.


41 posted on 10/09/2008 8:26:39 AM PDT by teethodore
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To: IrishMike; 8mmMauser
John Zogby said the race mirrors the 1980 election, when voters didn’t embrace Ronald Reagan over then-President Jimmy Carter until just days before the election.

Precisely, as my FRiend 8mm can attest, Reagan was LOSING the election through mid-October of 1980, but he ran away with it in the final stretch.

42 posted on 10/09/2008 8:29:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Galtoid

I agree


43 posted on 10/09/2008 8:34:09 AM PDT by okokie (40 days of Prayer and fasting to end abortion Sept 24-Nov 2 http://www.40daysforlife.com/splash.cfm)
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To: housedeep

BTTT!


44 posted on 10/09/2008 8:42:26 AM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: davek70
Obama is running Ads 3:1 in these states

i was in Reno, Nevada earlier this week and saw 8-10 Obama commercials on various channels in the early afternoon... i saw maybe 3 McCain commercials, and one was at 1:00 in the morning... (i leave the television on when i stay in a hotel room by myself)...

45 posted on 10/09/2008 8:50:59 AM PDT by latina4dubya (self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: davek70
Obama is running Ads 3:1 in these states. Also, I can’t believe Fox news is running Obama ads??? How many Obama supporters watch Fox? Seems like a waste of $$ to me.

Running ads on CNN is just preaching to the choir. There's no new voters to be swayed there so that's the real waste of money. With Fox there are some people on the fence.

McCain was greatly outspent by others during the primary and it turned out that had little effect.

46 posted on 10/09/2008 8:52:55 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: rom

I really think that is what happened when Reagan won. The youth didn’t bother to vote, thinking it was in the bag for their guy. The polls/voter registration fraud/etc are more sophisticated, now, however. It is not an accident that all the ACORN fraud is in Battleground states with blue cities. We need a landslide to counteract the machine behind zerO.


47 posted on 10/09/2008 9:22:23 AM PDT by reformedliberal (God bless Saracuda America, speaking truth to power.)
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To: housedeep

McCain has razor thin victory with 274 electoral votes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I’ll take 271, I just want the absurd marxist dumbo defeated and I don’t care what skin shade he is, he is a would be marxist dictator. I want Ayers and Soros and the rest to administer to Obamalamadingdong whatever punishment they normally deal out to those who disappoint them. I’ll bet it’s a lot worse than sixty lashes with a wet noodle.


48 posted on 10/09/2008 9:45:59 AM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: reformedliberal
I really think that is what happened when Reagan won. The youth didn’t bother to vote, thinking it was in the bag for their guy.

I was in college at the time, and I clearly remember seeing lots of students with "Regan Country" stickers ( I lived in CA at the time).

I realized right then, that Carter was in trouble. I don't remember the turnout of students at the time, though.

Since today is Yom Kipper, I'll own up and confess that I did vote for Carter. That was only my second time voting, and the last time I voted for a Democrat.

49 posted on 10/09/2008 10:53:13 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: TruthWillWin
It’s time to drop the “Raila Odinga” bomb

Heck yeah.

50 posted on 10/09/2008 12:57:36 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood (Odinga is the new Ayers.)
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