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Hispanics Turn Cold Shoulder to McCain
The Politico ^ | October 9, 2008 | Ben Smith

Posted on 10/09/2008 7:09:23 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

Despite championing immigration reform in 2007, John McCain is poised to lose the Hispanic vote by a landslide margin that is well below President George W. Bush's 2004 performance.

Polls show Obama winning the broadest support from Latino voters of any Democrat in a decade, while McCain is struggling to reach 30 percent, closer to Senator Bob Dole's dismal 1996 result than to Bush's historic 40% four years ago.

McCain seems to have wound up with the worst of both worlds: He appears to be getting no credit from Latino voters for his past support for immigration reform, while carrying the baggage of other Republicans' hostility to illegal immigration.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; cira; electionpresident; hispanicvote; immigrantlist; justdesserts; justice; karma; mcamnesty; mccain; mccaintruthfile
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1 posted on 10/09/2008 7:09:23 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Just another reason why he never should have supported it to begin with. Stabbed in the back, but many of us could have called that.


2 posted on 10/09/2008 7:10:25 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

What happened to Rove’s theories?


3 posted on 10/09/2008 7:11:00 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Why? After all, he wants to keep them here. :-(


4 posted on 10/09/2008 7:12:06 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama IS running against Palin)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Can someone explain to me again how flooding the country with left-leaning voters from Mexico will help the Republican party?


5 posted on 10/09/2008 7:12:21 PM PDT by BinaryBoy (Not voting is the lesser evil.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

It’s a sad truth but a truth nonetheless, like blacks, latinos also tend to support the candidate most likely to provide handouts and ask nothing in return. Perhaps not in numbers equal to blacks, but still in an overwhelming majority.


6 posted on 10/09/2008 7:12:28 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (Gore, Kerry, Obama. GOP Hat Trick 2008.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

“...carrying the baggage of other Republicans’ hostility to illegal immigration.”

They don’t get it.

What part of “illegal” is so damn difficult to understand. And these illegal aliens, here without documentation, are NOT immigrants. They are criminals because they came here illegally.


7 posted on 10/09/2008 7:13:45 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Better invite a few million more and hope they change their mind.


8 posted on 10/09/2008 7:14:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: St. Louis Conservative
McCain seems to have wound up with the worst of both worlds: He appears to be getting no credit from Latino voters for his past support for immigration reform, while carrying the baggage of other Republicans' hostility to illegal immigration.

This won't stop McCain from trying...

9 posted on 10/09/2008 7:14:21 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Do you work for the leftist organization politico?

They obviously did not poll the Florida Cuban population.


10 posted on 10/09/2008 7:14:36 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

This is by the Politico. McCain had the La Raza guy speak at the convention.


11 posted on 10/09/2008 7:14:51 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: BinaryBoy

It can’t help the republicans. Isn’t it ironic that McCain’s undoing may come from the one ethnic group that he courted so hard that it damaged him with the base of his party? That is the reward one gets when they sell their soul for political gain.


12 posted on 10/09/2008 7:14:53 PM PDT by tatown
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To: St. Louis Conservative
And his reward for pandering to the pro-illegals crowd? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. In fact, Obama has gotten them to hate McCain.

Let this be a lesson to other Republican shamnesty proponents; they're going to hate you no matter what you do. They're always going to support Democrats. Period.
13 posted on 10/09/2008 7:16:10 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I’ve been waiting for something like this to show up. If things were great for 0bama with Hispanics, why would something like this show up? My guess is that you might also see a Bradly-like effect among Hispanics. We have to wait an see, but I always thought that the moment you see something like this, problems are on the horizon for 0bama.


14 posted on 10/09/2008 7:16:16 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (Socialism has ruined Latin America, let's not let it ruin the USA!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Good Old Politico reprinting another Obama Press release on there DNC Website !
I guess little Ben Smith beat fellow Obama media whore Mike Allen to the fax machine today !

I am still waiting for the Rove indictment that Politico announced two years ago ????

15 posted on 10/09/2008 7:16:24 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Hispanic men will not vote for Obama


16 posted on 10/09/2008 7:16:24 PM PDT by Porterville (Grammar Nazis- Hands off my mistakes!!!)
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To: AbeKrieger

Ok I am a Hispanic. Most Hispanics vote democrat...not only because of welfare, but also because the Republican party has never welcomed or sought after their votes....

Heck half of the Republican party cant understand their are such a thing as a LEGAL MEXICAN!

SOMETIMES I AM VERY INSULTED BY MY OWN PARTY!

I SPEAK SPANISH, NOT ONCE HAVE I GONE TO A PHONE BANK WHERE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS INTERESTED IN THE LATINO VOTE.

WHY WOULD YOU EVER GO TO SOMEONES HOUSE, WHEN YOU DONT FEEL WELCOMED?


17 posted on 10/09/2008 7:16:32 PM PDT by Texas4ever (!WHO IS OBAMA?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative


18 posted on 10/09/2008 7:17:11 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Liz; Tennessee Nana; AuntB

Views differ on why McCain hasn't exploited this issue.

"He just doesn't have the stomach for pandering," said Navarro.

LOL

19 posted on 10/09/2008 7:17:21 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: PhiKapMom
They obviously did not poll the Florida Cuban population.

What is that? About .5% of the hispanic population?

20 posted on 10/09/2008 7:18:42 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: SideoutFred

Just another reason why he never should have supported it to begin with. Stabbed in the back, but many of us could have called that.


Right. There’s no point in catering to them or any other minorities. Close the border, close down Acorn. If you bend over and let them do anything they want, they just f#@k you, treat you with contempt, and walk away. We don’t need that, and we don’t need them.


21 posted on 10/09/2008 7:19:10 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Texas4ever
Ok I am a Hispanic. Most Hispanics vote democrat...not only because of welfare, but also because the Republican party has never welcomed or sought after their votes....

Tell us what the GOP could do to entice the hispanics to vote GOP?

22 posted on 10/09/2008 7:19:50 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Texas4ever

Not all of us are interested in race politics. It’s stupid to seek divisions in a nation wove together by many. You can be an American or you can be whatever else you want to be but you can’t be both.

I’m of german heritage, when was the last time you heard us whine about a party not pandering to us?


23 posted on 10/09/2008 7:22:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: Texas4ever
"Heck half of the Republican party cant understand their are such a thing as a LEGAL MEXICAN!"

If they are 'legal', are they still Mexican? You are welcome, now English if you please....

24 posted on 10/09/2008 7:24:15 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Praying for Reign)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Maybe if McCain was a little more “bi-partisan” or “reached across the aisle” more often. ~sarc


25 posted on 10/09/2008 7:25:23 PM PDT by albie
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To: cripplecreek
Most Hispanics I have spoken with are voting for Obama because he is "Not White". As if all people of color are the same.
26 posted on 10/09/2008 7:26:05 PM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Maybe now’s a good time to take it all back and win some conservatives! “Build the wall and ship all illegals out asap”! It would work for me!!


27 posted on 10/09/2008 7:26:37 PM PDT by albie
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To: St. Louis Conservative

So Hispanics will be voting like they always have?

Well John may get a chance to think about that in the first 120 days of his retirement.

Please God, he will retire if he loses won’t he?


28 posted on 10/09/2008 7:27:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Strange as it may seem to those biased reporters out there, if John McCain would sincerely revoke his part in McCain/Kennedy and insist in securing our borders, he would gain far more American votes, Caucasian and Mexican, than he would lose from La Raza votes, imo.


29 posted on 10/09/2008 7:27:40 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge)
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To: raybbr

It is conservatism that must be presented to Hispanics. When you show them what conservatism is and what it stands for, Hispanics will realize that their values are conservative values and not liberal. I should know, I am a Hispanic and a conservative.

And if you go to a phone bank, don’t wait for them to give you a Hispanic list, ask for one. If none is available, go door-to-door in Hispanic neighborhoods. Be proactive about it. Every time I talk with other Hispanics, I try to speak about my values and show them how conservative their values truly are.

Conservatives are at disadvantage, since most Hispanics get their news from liberal sources, not to mention education.

But the key is to engage them and show them that conservatism is the way out of poverty. Instead of waiting for a handout, work for it. We are a proud people, but handouts breed laziness, which leads to dependency, ending at liberalism. We have to break this cycle!


30 posted on 10/09/2008 7:27:52 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (Socialism has ruined Latin America, let's not let it ruin the USA!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Strange as it may seem to those biased reporters out there, if John McCain would sincerely revoke his part in McCain/Kennedy and insist in securing our borders, he would gain far more American votes, Caucasian and Mexican, than he would lose from leftist La Raza votes, imo.


31 posted on 10/09/2008 7:28:57 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge)
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To: Texas4ever
WHY WOULD YOU EVER GO TO SOMEONES HOUSE, WHEN YOU DONT FEEL WELCOMED?

Sort of puts republicans in a bind - either they can lockstep endorse illegal immigration or lose the Hispanic vote.

Better to vote for your economic and political self interest than to vote to encourage others to break the nation's laws. The other approach is to vote for all the handouts possible, which is the viewpoint the Democrats are encouraging.

32 posted on 10/09/2008 7:34:33 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: raybbr
Views differ on why McCain hasn't exploited this issue. "He just doesn't have the stomach for pandering," said Navarro. LOL........

ROTFL----that's a good one, alright. Now how bout this?

Five Million Fraudulent Mortgages Held by Illegals -----

As TADSLOS posted This is the mortgage loan crisis hidden story coming to light. This is why Bush and McCain had that glazed over, defeated look in their eyes urging the bailout bill being passed. They have been hoisted on their own shamnesty petards.

N-i-c-e take, eh? Sucking up to latinos allowed the US economy to go down the drain. This is a crime of massive proportions. Candidate McC's trying to distance himself from Bush but the two of them look like ignorant dupes of amnesty hustlers. The two *******s got suckered into undermining US law-----and ended up destroying the US economy----sucking up to Third World con artists.

$50 BILLION was being taken out of our economy every year, transferred to Mexico.....but the two idiots still did not "get it."

Outrageously, they ignored the pleas of taxpayers and the reasoned arguments against amnesty. Now we are paying the price for their monumental stupidity.

Wait till the facts emerge that illegals drained our treasury using multiple identities to collect EITC, Soc/Sec. Workmen's Comp, SSI, welfare, food stamps, free health care, free schooling, housing allowances, etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseaum. welfare.

The invaders shut down numerous hospitals, sued everything in sight, overburdened our justice system committing viscious crimes, and made big bucks selling drugs to American youth.

Now they'll retire in luxury to beachfront condos with multiple US govt checks rolling in. Even when they go back, US checks will be blanketing the Third World til doomsday. Plus Latino federales are salivating over the massive transfer of US wealth via a jet-propelled federal assembly line HEADED STRAIGHT INTO THEIR POCKETS.

BTW, Did McC torpedo Juan Hernandez yet (/sarc)? McC needs to send this SOB Hernandez packing, subito.

33 posted on 10/09/2008 7:34:35 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: ABQHispConservative
If none is available, go door-to-door in Hispanic neighborhoods.

First off I would never be able to speak to them. I don't speak spanish. Second, the only hispanic neighborhoods I know of I would NOT be welcomed.

34 posted on 10/09/2008 7:35:11 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; TADSLOS
McCain seems to have wound up with the worst of both worlds: He appears to be getting no credit from Latino voters for his past support for immigration reform, while carrying the baggage of other Republicans' hostility to illegal immigration.

Could not be happening to a more deserving guy (snicker).

35 posted on 10/09/2008 7:38:15 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: raybbr

Unfortunately, that seems to be the norm for most Hispanic neighborhoods. And you’re right, if you don’t know spanish you would be wasting your time. But I’ll keep trying.


36 posted on 10/09/2008 7:39:16 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (Socialism has ruined Latin America, let's not let it ruin the USA!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Please God, he will retire if he loses won’t he?

Wouldn't that be insanely nightmarish - McCain-Kennedy being revived just as the country sinks into a deep recession, with Obama in the White House and the democrats controlling both houses?
37 posted on 10/09/2008 7:41:09 PM PDT by ruination
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To: St. Louis Conservative

If you believe Politico then every group has turned on McCain, the GOP is dead and none of should bother showing up to vote on Nov 4th. It’s Politico, remember?


38 posted on 10/09/2008 7:45:18 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: St. Louis Conservative
McCain is being buried by CFR (Obama who already has the huge advantage of the 24/7 MSM....is now outspending him daily by millions on TV ads) all because of McCain's CFR....

And here on immigration he is being whacked from both sides as well - Well, Mr. McCain.....This sucks, for our great Nation.

39 posted on 10/09/2008 7:48:07 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: freekitty
La Raza is a community orgn. much like ACORN, getting govt. money and grants from lib foundations.

vaudine

40 posted on 10/09/2008 7:49:02 PM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: cripplecreek
It’s stupid to seek divisions in a nation wove together by many. You can be an American or you can be whatever else you want to be but you can’t be both. I’m of German heritage, when was the last time you heard us whine about a party not pandering to us?

N-i-c-e take.

America is built on one nation, indivisible. I for one am sick and tired of these professional hyphenates. They calculatedly seek to divide and conquer......they refuse to assimilate into the melting pot.

Hyphenates want special privileges and perks, and they want the rest of us to subsidize them.

No thank you. I say act like an American, or GTH out of my country.

41 posted on 10/09/2008 7:49:39 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Texas4ever
SOMETIMES I AM VERY INSULTED BY MY OWN PARTY! ... WHY WOULD YOU EVER GO TO SOMEONES HOUSE, WHEN YOU DONT FEEL WELCOMED?

Don't feel alone. Conservatives often feel the same way.

42 posted on 10/09/2008 7:53:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz; rabscuttle; gubamyster; B4Ranch; SwinneySwitch; Travis McGee; AuntB; cripplecreek
Here's part of Bush/McCain Shamnesty legacy. Pick a state. Any state.

DEA Mosted Wanted

43 posted on 10/09/2008 7:56:02 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Elvis/Big Bopper 08! Blue Suede Shoes For All Americans!)
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To: ruination

Heaven forbid!!!! What a revolting development.

If McCain/Palin win, we need to march on one newspaper at a time until they close their doors. I’m sick of this and I’m not going to take it anymore.


44 posted on 10/09/2008 7:57:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: DevSix
Well, Mr. McCain.....This sucks, for our great Nation.

Hoisted on his own petard, and taking us down with him.

45 posted on 10/09/2008 7:58:22 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Elvis/Big Bopper 08! Blue Suede Shoes For All Americans!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
I call another bullshit poll. I thought the Latinos didn't like the blacks or vice versa now all of a succen they love them,don't add up.
46 posted on 10/09/2008 8:17:31 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: ABQHispConservative

Latinos do have a Christian orientation in general and do not like the rabid abortion stance of the Democrat Party. The fact is that many Latinos are here, many are legally here and have lived in this country all their lives, many are here illegally. There is no way that they can all be rounded up and deported. If we could help them understand that we aren’t against legal immigration; if their own families that are here and who are harboring them would just encourage and help them go back and return by legal channels it would be easier on them as well as on the authorities.

Be sure that if BO is elected, he will do everything in his power to assure that the Latino voting bloc, like the black voting bloc is Democrat for a hundred years or more. The Democrat Party gains control of people by appealing to their baser attributes rather than in building up their talents and incentive. - I love everyone and wish for everybody to have good, to have good paying jobs and education. I don’t relish anyone’s adult child dying of thirst and dehydration in the desert trying to come here to work (and they do work) and earn a living. Our ancestors were mostly immigrants at one time, too. There are criminals and bad people in every race and group of people, and there are many decent Latino people.


47 posted on 10/09/2008 8:25:08 PM PDT by Twinkie (WITH OBAMA - (IT'S PAYBACK TIME IN AMERICA!))
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To: St. Louis Conservative

This sounds like another bullshit poll to me.All of freerepublic is full of polls saying how bad we are doing.
I thought blacks didn’t like latinos and now all of a sudden they love them.This is a big push to make us believe we are losing,Sounds like bullshit to me.


48 posted on 10/09/2008 8:27:08 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

This sounds like another bullshit poll to me.All of freerepublic is full of polls saying how bad we are doing.
I thought blacks didn’t like latinos and now all of a sudden they love them.This is a big push to make us believe we are losing,Sounds like bullshit to me.


49 posted on 10/09/2008 8:27:18 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana; AuntB
Illiterates "voting"? Reading ballots? And referendums?

This insanity presages the Third World hellholes they envision being erected on US soil. Illegals are receiving orders from Third World federales to takeback the SW (reconquista) by undermining the US election system.

Illiterate natives are way out of their element here.... attempting to circumnavigate a worldclass superpower, like America. The stupid invaders are ill-equipped to exist under US democracy--within a worldclass superpower which operates under the rule of law.

Only problem is that vote-crazed politicians are mesmerized by the numbers, and are sucking up to illegals like there was no tomorrow. Pandering pols will never "get it."

50 posted on 10/09/2008 8:38:25 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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