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4,000 Dead people found on voter rolls in Houston
Click2Houston.com ^ | October 9, 2008 | Click2Houston

Posted on 10/10/2008 11:12:58 AM PDT by mattfromva

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UPDATED: 9:08 am CDT October 10, 2008

HOUSTON -- Note: The following story is a verbatim transcript of an Investigators story that aired on Thursday, Oct. 8, 2008, on KPRC Local 2 at 10 p.m.

Local 2 investigates dead voters.

The push to register voters for this year's presidential election is breaking records.

More than 1.9 million people are registered to vote in Harris County alone.

But how many of the people listed on the voter roll are actually eligible to cast a ballot?

Investigative reporter Amy Davis shows you how hundreds of voters could sway this year's election -- voters who are not even alive.

"All-in-all, a great person, a great woman, just a wonderful person" is how Alexis Guidry described her mother to Local 2 Investigates.

"As far back as I can remember, they've always voted in the election," Guidry said of her parents.

The March 2008 Primary was no exception. Voting records show Alexis' mom, Gloria Guidry, cast her ballot in person near her South Houston home.

"It was just very shocking, a little unsettling," said Alexis Guidry.

It's unsettling because Gloria Guidry died of cancer 10 months before the March Primary.

"She'd be very upset," Guidry said when asked what her mom would think.

Trent Seibert, of Texas Watchdog, says you should be too.

"This is really disquieting. It's concerning. It's worrisome," said Seibert.

He heads up the non-partisan news group on the web.

Texas Watchdog compared Harris County's voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches -- registered voters that, it appears, are already dead.

Some of them, like Henderson Hill's late wife Linda, voted postmortem.

"I would like to know who did it, myself," Hill told Davis.

We don't know who used Linda Hill's or Gloria Guidry's IDs to vote, but we do know if their names had been purged from voter rolls after they died, using their IDs wouldn't have worked.

"This is a red flag. No matter where you are, this should set off alarm bells," Seibert said. "Someone needs to take a look at this."

Local 2 Investigates took the information to the Harris County Voter Registrar.

"We just kind of work with the systems that we're allowed to," explained George Hammerlein, the director of Harris County Voter Registration.

The county's system for culling deceased voters from the roll seems painfully primitive.

We watched employees clip obituaries from the newspaper and sort through probate records for names matching those on the roll. But, Hammerlein says while fraud is a concern, for his office, disenfranchising voters is a bigger one.

"We do all we can, but you know we'd rather err on the side of leaving people on the roll instead of taking them off inadvertently," he said.

But could that cautious "better safe than sorry" standard sway an election some say will be a close one?

Texas Watchdog found 4,462 registered voters who appear to be deceased.

In 2000, George Bush won the presidential election by a mere 537 votes in Florida.

"We've never had any evidence there's a concerted attempt at fraud," Hammerlein told Local 2.

But there is evidence the state agency in charge of ensuring only eligible voters can vote is not.

The State Auditor's Office conducted an audit of the voter registration system at the Secretary of State's Office last November.

Auditors identified 49,049 registered voters state-wide who may have been ineligible to vote. Approximately 23,576 may have been deceased and another 23,114 were possible felons. And they found more than 2,359 duplicate records.

The auditor did not find any instances in which potentially ineligible voters actually voted, but they wrote, "Although the Secretary of State's office has processes to identify many ineligible voters and remove them from the State's voter registration list, improvements can be made."

Almost a year after this audit, we wanted to know if the Secretary of State has made any improvements. Have they added any safeguards to the process?

No one from that office would talk to us on camera, but the Director of Elections told us, "We'd rather err in leaving someone on the roll than taking someone off."

"If there's something wrong here, if there's something amiss, this is the worst election to have that happen, "Seibert warned.

And Guidry agrees.

"I don't think it's a matter that she would take lightly," she said of her mom.

In what she calls an historic election, Guidry says her mother wouldn't want anyone speaking for her.

"I think she would definitely do all that she could just to make sure things were on the up and up."

We sent the information we showed you to the Director of Elections in Austin. She said her office refers any credible allegation of election fraud to the Attorney General for investigation.

She said the cases we presented would be felony violations.

Visit www.texaswatchdog.org for more information about how Texas Watchdog found dead voters on the rolls.

More Information: Audit: Voter Registration System At Texas Secretary Of State Click2Houston Politics Section

If you have a news tip or question for KPRC Local 2 Investigates, drop them an e-mail or call their tipline at (713) 223-TIPS (8477).

Copyright 2008 by Click2Houston.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: acorn; ballotstuffing; coup; disenfranchised; dncbrownshirts; houston; howtostealanelection; massivevotefraud; obamavotefraud; stalinisttactics; texasvotefraud; thedeadwillvoteagain; tx2008; voterfraud; zombiemessiah; zombies; zombies4obama
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1 posted on 10/10/2008 11:12:59 AM PDT by mattfromva
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To: mattfromva

I see Obama's people......................

2 posted on 10/10/2008 11:14:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)
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To: mattfromva

why am I not surprised?


3 posted on 10/10/2008 11:15:16 AM PDT by NetSurfer (BO stinks.)
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To: mattfromva

Something is obviously going around the country. Operatives of the Obama camp are rigging this election. We must force this story out!


4 posted on 10/10/2008 11:15:17 AM PDT by jokyfo ("OBAMA" is Arabic for "CIPHER" and Farsi for "VACUUM")
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To: mattfromva

whoa.


5 posted on 10/10/2008 11:16:13 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (Country first!)
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To: mattfromva
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTCZ3n4bw-o
6 posted on 10/10/2008 11:16:18 AM PDT by txroadkill (Do it for Sarah!)
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To: jokyfo

This country is going to hell in a handbasket as my grandfather used to say.


7 posted on 10/10/2008 11:16:21 AM PDT by mattfromva (i)
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To: Bender2; Allegra; txflake; Xenalyte

Dead men registering Ping.


8 posted on 10/10/2008 11:16:21 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: mattfromva

Hi Ho... Hi Ho... It's off to vote we go!

9 posted on 10/10/2008 11:17:31 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: mattfromva

10 posted on 10/10/2008 11:17:39 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: txroadkill

bflv


11 posted on 10/10/2008 11:18:08 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Democrats: Seeking an easy life at someone else's expense for 150 years")
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To: mattfromva

Has any of the Dems blamed Bush yet...just curious. That seems to be their rally cry...


12 posted on 10/10/2008 11:19:05 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: mattfromva
Taken from Acorn's website is the following map of their registration efforts. A picture is worth a thousand words when it comes to the anatomy of a coup.


13 posted on 10/10/2008 11:22:21 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: mattfromva
Not only is Che dead... but he's voted 10 times for Obama in Ohio!

I'm so pretty... the dead vote for me!

14 posted on 10/10/2008 11:23:01 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: areukiddingme1

Yesterday on Hannity I heard John Fund saying that when Obama represented ACORN in that lawsuit, one of the things that he fought for was to make it harder for people’s names to be REMOVED from the voter rolls. In other words, even if you reported that a person was dead, they would not be removed easily. I don’t know the exact procedure, but it is long an arduous.


15 posted on 10/10/2008 11:29:13 AM PDT by usflagwaver
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To: areukiddingme1

Yesterday on Hannity I heard John Fund saying that when Obama represented ACORN in that lawsuit, one of the things that he fought for was to make it harder for people’s names to be REMOVED from the voter rolls. In other words, even if you reported that a person was dead, they would not be removed easily. I don’t know the exact procedure, but it is long an arduous.


16 posted on 10/10/2008 11:29:15 AM PDT by usflagwaver
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To: areukiddingme1

Yesterday on Hannity I heard John Fund saying that when Obama represented ACORN in that lawsuit, one of the things that he fought for was to make it harder for people’s names to be REMOVED from the voter rolls. In other words, even if you reported that a person was dead, they would not be removed easily. I don’t know the exact procedure, but it is long an arduous.


17 posted on 10/10/2008 11:29:17 AM PDT by usflagwaver
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To: mattfromva

Even the dead voters were moved from NOLA to Houston after Katrina!


18 posted on 10/10/2008 11:32:01 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: mattfromva
zombies Pictures, Images and Photos
19 posted on 10/10/2008 11:32:30 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Bender2

LOL - NoBama looks kind of like a smirking chimp in that last photo. ;o)
Thanks for posting!


20 posted on 10/10/2008 11:35:43 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston PING


21 posted on 10/10/2008 11:36:16 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: PA Engineer

WOW! Look how many in OH and PA...


22 posted on 10/10/2008 11:36:32 AM PDT by smokingfrog (no more Mother's Cookies...mom needs a bailout too!)
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To: mattfromva

The March 2008 Primary was no exception. Voting records show Alexis’ mom, Gloria Guidry, cast her ballot in person near her South Houston home.

“It was just very shocking, a little unsettling,” said Alexis Guidry.

It’s unsettling because Gloria Guidry died of cancer 10 months before the March Primary.


We had TWO primaries in March, one for Republican voters and one for Democrats. They were separate. So how did she vote?


23 posted on 10/10/2008 11:37:49 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: mattfromva
"We just kind of work with the systems that we're allowed to," explained George Hammerlein, the director of Harris County Voter Registration.

The county's system for culling deceased voters from the roll seems painfully primitive.

We watched employees clip obituaries from the newspaper and sort through probate records for names matching those on the roll. But, Hammerlein says while fraud is a concern, for his office, disenfranchising voters is a bigger one.

"We do all we can, but you know we'd rather err on the side of leaving people on the roll instead of taking them off inadvertently," he said.

A person who has been wrongly removed can cast a contested ballot. A person who is physically dead has no right to remain on that ballot where their name can be used to illegally invalidate the vote of another person.

24 posted on 10/10/2008 11:40:04 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: mattfromva

The good? part is that they are good citizens and vote at a higher rate oof participation than the average citizen.


25 posted on 10/10/2008 11:40:11 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: PA Engineer
Auditors identified 49,049 registered voters state-wide who may have been ineligible to vote. Approximately 23,576 may have been deceased and another 23,114 were possible felons. And they found more than 2,359 duplicate records.

4,000 dead in Houston are but a drop in the bucket of the fraud in Teaxs.

And Paul Bettencourt is a good Republican (and conservative talk radio show) but his office can only get so many fraudulent voters purged from the rolls.

26 posted on 10/10/2008 11:42:55 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: mattfromva
This country is going to hell in a handbasket as my grandfather used to say.

Republicans had six years to clean up the voting fraud mess from 2001-2006 and they blew it. This election is going to be a disaster.

27 posted on 10/10/2008 11:44:47 AM PDT by Azzurri
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To: mattfromva
Looked at the latest Harris County registered list:

"Your search for Gloria Guidry produced no records. Please go back and check your entry, or try another name."

Gloria Guidry passed away last May, but Harris County voting records indicate she cast a ballot in the March 2008 Democratic primary.

http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2008/10/dead-voters-still-registered-in-harris-county/

Wonder if she voted for Hillary or Obama.

28 posted on 10/10/2008 11:49:19 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Azzurri

The peaceful transition of power ended in 2000.


29 posted on 10/10/2008 11:51:08 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Azzurri
I've heard people who are already predicting that regardless of the outcome on 11/4, the loser will probobly contest the outcome. I think you're right. This election will be a mess.

Just one question...If O wins, and McCain contests it, and it is found that a large number of votes for O are fraudulent thus him not getting enough legitimate votes, will McCain then be declared the winner? Can you imagine the chaos that will follow? It will make the 2000 election look like a fairy tale.

30 posted on 10/10/2008 11:52:01 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore (Country First!)
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To: mattfromva

Was there anthrax on the rolls?

There must have been a lot of rolls for 4000 people.


31 posted on 10/10/2008 11:52:52 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: mattfromva
Auditors identified 49,049 registered voters state-wide who may have been ineligible to vote. Approximately 23,576 may have been deceased and another 23,114 were possible felons. And they found more than 2,359 duplicate records.

Scrub the rolls. Now!

32 posted on 10/10/2008 11:54:11 AM PDT by Jaded ("Eloquence is no substitute for experience" -Joe Lieberman)
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To: mattfromva
It's not an automatic sign of fraud if there are dead people on the voter rolls. I can say that when each of my parents died the last thing that would have crossed my mind is to notify the board of elections.

Because people may die outside their election district it must not be entirely easy to keep the rolls purged of all dead people on a timely basis. I'm not sure even social security list would work if the dead voter was not yet at retirement age.

33 posted on 10/10/2008 11:55:35 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: mattfromva

Let’s see here::::

IF you leave a person on the rolls who is dead or has moved, then someone else can vote using that name......

If you remove the name from the rolls, and it is an error, and the person shows up to vote and has all the correct ID, then at least they can cast a provisional ballot, or possibly substantiate their existance with a power bill or something before the polls close at end of day.......

These lazy county clerks offices are helping this fraud happen. there are a number of ways to know that someone has moved or has died. The power company would have a change of service billing, for one.
Have I got this straight???


34 posted on 10/10/2008 12:00:49 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: mattfromva

Here in Texas, Bush beat whatshisname by over 1 1/2 million votes in 2004. The Dem’s can have the dead vote. We don’t need’m.


35 posted on 10/10/2008 12:06:49 PM PDT by Tim n Texas
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To: mattfromva; xzins; enat
Where in the constitution does it say that you lose your right to vote simply because you are dead?

Voting is a constitutional right. You take your constitutional rights to the grave.

This is a civil rights issue!

36 posted on 10/10/2008 12:07:37 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: ridesthemiles
Back when I was a lowly elected Precinct Committeeman I used to watch the Real Estate Sales section of my local paper. When a house was sold, I'd cross reference that with the voter rolls I got from the County Clerk.

If someone moved who pulled a Dem ballot in a Primary, I sent a nice letter along with a copy of the RE notice from the paper stating that the voter(s) in question no longer lived in the Precinct.

They County Clerk then purged them from the rolls.

I probably knocked off a hundred or so people that way over the course of 5 or 6 years.

Never thought about doing the Obits, though.

L

37 posted on 10/10/2008 12:10:29 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: mattfromva

Houston, we have a problem.


38 posted on 10/10/2008 12:11:36 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mattfromva

Auditors identified 49,049 registered voters state-wide who may have been ineligible to vote. Approximately 23,576 may have been deceased and another 23,114 were possible felons. And they found more than 2,359 duplicate records. Great job finding these!


39 posted on 10/10/2008 12:13:37 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: mattfromva

awesome, I hope these keep getting reported. I’m also praying all ACORN registrations get removed. If that happens, there’s landslide potential in this election.


40 posted on 10/10/2008 12:18:08 PM PDT by Marko413
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To: The G Man

Can you modify that to read “Election ight of the VOTING dead”?


41 posted on 10/10/2008 12:18:40 PM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: ridesthemiles

Actually, I don’t think that the county clerks offices care whether or not you are deceased or have moved.

I moved from CA three years ago. I registered in my new state and notified CA. I still receive voting information, etc. from CA. I could, if I was a cheat, vote twice!


42 posted on 10/10/2008 12:20:01 PM PDT by jtill (Yes, we can .... what?)
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To: MortMan
You got it!


43 posted on 10/10/2008 12:30:26 PM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: jokyfo

I am glad that they are finding this out now ... and not after the election..


44 posted on 10/10/2008 12:53:59 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Red Badger
George Hammerlein, the director of Harris County Voter Registration.

THAT is the source of the problem: The people (entrenched, self-serving democrat/socialist bureaucrats) who are guarding the voter roles DON'T WANT to find fraud.

Finding and exposing fraud exposes only democrat corruption, democrat votes.

45 posted on 10/10/2008 1:41:07 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Tim n Texas

Didn’t the stadium referendum pass on 1% vote margin for over a billion dollars in spending? Ken Lay was thanked for his efforts in acheiving that victory (seriously).


46 posted on 10/10/2008 2:09:37 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Lurker

A hundred people.

Paul Bettencourt has purged many more:

http://www.tax.co.harris.tx.us/pressreleases/2004/voter/voterpurge12-10-04.asp

100,000+ VOTERS PURGED FROM VOTER ROLL
Smallest Purge Ever Shows Tax Office Updates Working

HOUSTON – December 10, 2004 – As Harris County’s Voter Registrar, Paul Bettencourt today announced the purging of 103,695 voters, or only 5.6 percent, from the voter registration roll resulting in a new total of 1,849,748 registered voters. The old total of 1,953,443 was a Harris County record.

“Preserving the integrity of the voter roll is paramount and involves year-round efforts, including confirmation mailings to voters on the move and frequent database matches to the National Change of Address database, Department of Public Safety motor vehicle database, and the Social Security index,” said Bettencourt.”

“On Election Day, 48,749 suspended voters updated their registration record by completing a Statement of Residence Form which helped greatly by placing voters back on the voter roll where they live.”

In Texas, the voter registration purge occurs on November 30, per Election Code 16.032, but the Secretary of State office recommends all Texas counties wait until the Statement of Residence forms submitted on Election Day are first processed. Of the 48,749 Statement of Residence form updates submitted, 1,705 were outside of Harris County and therefore deleted from the voter roll.

“We’ve worked to make it easy for a voter to update their record in person or online. Purged voters who still reside in Harris County or those that return can get back on the voter roll simply by registering to vote at their current address,” added Bettencourt.


the purge should occur BEFORE the election, not afterwards.


47 posted on 10/10/2008 2:13:47 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: weegee
Good for Paul.

I was working one small precinct. He's responsible for entire County.

I did what I could with what I had.

Sorry if that doesn't meet with your approval.

Best.

L

48 posted on 10/10/2008 2:17:50 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: weegee; Eaker; Tijeras_Slim; TheMom

I knew Eaker was sick but this is kind of sudden !!

RIP Eeeek !

Is the Mom dating yet ?


49 posted on 10/10/2008 2:26:26 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Yuk ....... yuk......yuk!

;<)


50 posted on 10/10/2008 2:28:13 PM PDT by Eaker (Dutch expression "You can give a monkey a gold ring, but it stays an ugly thing." - EscapedDutch)
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