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Local 2 Investigates Dead Voters (4,000 in Houston!)
KPRC Houston Channel 2 ^ | Oct 9 2008 | KPRC Houston

Posted on 10/10/2008 12:21:08 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion

HOUSTON -- Note: The following story is a verbatim transcript of an Investigators story that aired on Thursday, Oct. 8, 2008, on KPRC Local 2 at 10 p.m.

Local 2 investigates dead voters.

The push to register voters for this year's presidential election is breaking records.

More than 1.9 million people are registered to vote in Harris County alone.

But how many of the people listed on the voter roll are actually eligible to cast a ballot?

Investigative reporter Amy Davis shows you how hundreds of voters could sway this year's election -- voters who are not even alive.

"All-in-all, a great person, a great woman, just a wonderful person" is how Alexis Guidry described her mother to Local 2 Investigates.

"As far back as I can remember, they've always voted in the election," Guidry said of her parents. The March 2008 Primary was no exception. Voting records show Alexis' mom, Gloria Guidry, cast her ballot in person near her South Houston home.

"It was just very shocking, a little unsettling," said Alexis Guidry.

It's unsettling because Gloria Guidry died of cancer 10 months before the March Primary.

"She'd be very upset," Guidry said when asked what her mom would think.

Trent Seibert, of Texas Watchdog, says you should be too.

"This is really disquieting. It's concerning. It's worrisome," said Seibert.

He heads up the non-partisan news group on the web.

Texas Watchdog compared Harris County's voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches -- registered voters that, it appears, are already dead. Some of them, like Henderson Hill's late wife Linda, voted postmortem.

"I would like to know who did it, myself," Hill told Davis.

We don't know who used Linda Hill's or Gloria Guidry's IDs to vote, but we do know if their names had been purged from voter rolls after they died, using their IDs wouldn't have worked.

"This is a red flag. No matter where you are, this should set off alarm bells," Seibert said. "Someone needs to take a look at this."

Local 2 Investigates took the information to the Harris County Voter Registrar.

"We just kind of work with the systems that we're allowed to," explained George Hammerlein, the director of Harris County Voter Registration.

The county's system for culling deceased voters from the roll seems painfully primitive.

We watched employees clip obituaries from the newspaper and sort through probate records for names matching those on the roll. But, Hammerlein says while fraud is a concern, for his office, disenfranchising voters is a bigger one.

"We do all we can, but you know we'd rather err on the side of leaving people on the roll instead of taking them off inadvertently," he said.

But could that cautious "better safe than sorry" standard sway an election some say will be a close one? Texas Watchdog found 4,462 registered voters who appear to be deceased.

In 2000, George Bush won the presidential election by a mere 537 votes in Florida.

"We've never had any evidence there's a concerted attempt at fraud," Hammerlein told Local 2.

But there is evidence the state agency in charge of ensuring only eligible voters can vote is not.

The State Auditor's Office conducted an audit of the voter registration system at the Secretary of State's Office last November.

Auditors identified 49,049 registered voters state-wide who may have been ineligible to vote.

Approximately 23,576 may have been deceased and another 23,114 were possible felons. And they found more than 2,359 duplicate records.

The auditor did not find any instances in which potentially ineligible voters actually voted, but they wrote, "Although the Secretary of State's office has processes to identify many ineligible voters and remove them from the State's voter registration list, improvements can be made."

Almost a year after this audit, we wanted to know if the Secretary of State has made any improvements. Have they added any safeguards to the process?

No one from that office would talk to us on camera, but the Director of Elections told us, "We'd rather err in leaving someone on the roll than taking someone off."

"If there's something wrong here, if there's something amiss, this is the worst election to have that happen, "Seibert warned.

And Guidry agrees.

"I don't think it's a matter that she would take lightly," she said of her mom.

In what she calls an historic election, Guidry says her mother wouldn't want anyone speaking for her.

"I think she would definitely do all that she could just to make sure things were on the up and up." We sent the information we showed you to the Director of Elections in Austin. She said her office refers any credible allegation of election fraud to the Attorney General for investigation.

She said the cases we presented would be felony violations.

Visit www.texaswatchdog.org for more information about how Texas Watchdog found dead voters on the rolls.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2stealanelection; acorn; bluezone; corruptdems; deadvote; fraud; houston; thedeadwillvoteagain; tx2008; urban; votefraud; voterfraud; zombiemessiah
Acorn wasn't mentioned in this case... anyone know if they are active in Houston?
1 posted on 10/10/2008 12:21:08 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Contact Us
Houston ACORN
2600 South Loop Freeway West Suite #271 Houston, TX 77054 txacornho@acorn.org Phone: 1-877-800-7015 Fax: 713-838-8198
2 posted on 10/10/2008 12:22:38 PM PDT by NetSurfer (BO stinks.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Local 2 investigates dead voters.

The first thing I'd do is smell them. The way they smell would be a key indicator.
3 posted on 10/10/2008 12:22:55 PM PDT by mmichaels1970 (Stand up for CHUCK!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Yeah! We have ACORN here is Houston. They hang out in Sheila Jackson Lee’s part of town.

Here’s an article on them in Houston: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5949705.html


4 posted on 10/10/2008 12:24:15 PM PDT by avacado (Barack Obama, the Cloward-Piven candidate)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Be prepared for the most corrupt presidential election in this country’s history whose result will be the election of the most corrupt candidate, Barry Hussein Obama.


5 posted on 10/10/2008 12:24:44 PM PDT by South40
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To: avacado

Sheila Jackson Lee? The dumbest member of Congress.

Obviously, this is a Martian Rover plot.


6 posted on 10/10/2008 12:25:42 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Obama-Acorn - Corrupt loans, Corrupt Votes to Destroy the U.S.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

“Texas Watchdog compared Harris County’s voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches — registered voters that, it appears, are already dead. Some of them, like Henderson Hill’s late wife Linda, voted postmortem.”

Chicago politics....


7 posted on 10/10/2008 12:26:30 PM PDT by jessduntno (Good Grief.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

This is disgusting. Men and Women died for this country, it’s freedoms and the right to vote.

These people that are signing up ineligible voters to secure the election for obama are thumbing their nose at the sacrifices families have made.

There are no words fit to print that would describe these fraudulent voters and those obtaining fraudulent registrations.


8 posted on 10/10/2008 12:33:10 PM PDT by machogirl (i)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

This must be the 4000 dead from Hurricane Ike that were hanging in trees according to a DUmmie.


9 posted on 10/10/2008 12:33:31 PM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
If they could mark each "dead" voter, and then as the person passing themself off as that "voter" were to sign in, have the cops there to haul him/her off!

That would put the damper on vote fraud a bit.

10 posted on 10/10/2008 12:34:32 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: jessduntno

I believe this points out the incompetency of the Registrars of Voters.

They should be checking voter lists against the Social Security Death index on a regular basis.

When incompetency at the Voter Registrar’s Office is combined with organized fraud by ACORN, it is a recipe for disaster!!!!!


11 posted on 10/10/2008 12:35:22 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I have not heard one statement from “the One” concerning his OUTRAGE AT VOTE FRAUD, not one word from him or his campaign.
Only the racism accusations.

IMHO that means he’s aware and by his silence is condoning it.


12 posted on 10/10/2008 12:35:33 PM PDT by machogirl (i)
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To: jessduntno
“Texas Watchdog compared Harris County’s voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches — registered voters that, it appears, are already dead. Some of them, like Henderson Hill’s late wife Linda, voted postmortem.”

Sooooo... This begs the question.... What the HELL has Harris County been doing for the past four GD years?!?!

I mean if a "Watchdog" group can catch this stuff, why can't those put in charge of checking find these problems?!?!

Just another reason for a national MANDITORY VOTER ID check when you vote.

13 posted on 10/10/2008 12:35:38 PM PDT by bayliving (Democrats = Enemies of the State)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Okay, everyone who’s surprised raise their hands... hmmm, I don’t see any hands.

Well, I am the election judge in my precinct and I noticed something earlier this year. My grandmother died 5 years ago and her name is still on the voter list. She and I didn’t live in the same precinct, but I’m now using her house as my business office, maybe that means I should cast her vote for her. /sarc


14 posted on 10/10/2008 12:36:14 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

What’s the ratio of deceased D to deceased R voters? Oh wait, no information volunteered=rhetorical question.


15 posted on 10/10/2008 12:36:41 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The state’s vital records should be automatically connected with the secretary of state.


16 posted on 10/10/2008 12:36:59 PM PDT by machogirl (i)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
I have a simple solution (unfortunately, the Dems don't want this problem solved):

1. Require ID to vote in any federal election.

2. As part of the process, photograph voters as they sign in.

With these two simple measures, we would have a better chance to identify fraudulent voters before they get their hands on a ballot, and we would have a better chance of prosecuting the criminals who vote or attempt to vote for dead people. How much would it inconvenience the real voters? Not at all. And the cost? Almost no time - perhaps even a savings since poll workers would read names off the ID instead of trying to find names based on a guess at the spelling - and almost no money for a webcam photo of each voter in line. I'd love to see it happen.

17 posted on 10/10/2008 12:37:20 PM PDT by MathDoc (Obama: "end the war" ... or McCain/Palin: "win the war" ... easy choice)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The election should be postponed in order to weed out and invalidate the voter fraud.

Acorn should be shut down.

The people should demand it.


18 posted on 10/10/2008 12:37:26 PM PDT by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: South40

RE: “Be prepared for the most corrupt presidential election in this country’s history whose result will be the election of the most corrupt candidate, Barry Hussein Obama.”

Absolutely! Corruption from top to bottom. And you left out pegging The One as the Socialist/Marxist he is —

But not enough people CARE, or so it appears as of this date.


19 posted on 10/10/2008 12:41:05 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: skr
What’s the ratio of deceased D to deceased R voters?

I wonder how many deceased undecideds there are? Maybe they can sit on one of Luntz' panels.
20 posted on 10/10/2008 12:42:44 PM PDT by mmichaels1970 (Stand up for CHUCK!)
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To: indylindy

The US gubermint can seize assets of groups with ties to terrorists, but not to ACORN.

why not?


21 posted on 10/10/2008 12:44:22 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: machogirl

The next step will be to refer to the dead voters as the “Lazarus” segment of the electorate.


22 posted on 10/10/2008 12:45:48 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Voter Registration Fraud is a major issue.

Read this story about dead people voting in Houston and the antiquated method used to cull dead people from the rolls.

Even more alarming is this concern-—

Director of Elections told us, “We’d rather err in leaving someone on the roll than taking someone off.”

Frankly, they cannot err by taking someone off the roll, because if that person exists, they can prove their existence and thus vote.

More and more of us who follow the rules are being disenfranchised. This is going on across America.


23 posted on 10/10/2008 12:47:39 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
"Life is a corrupting process from the time a child learns to play his mother off against his father in the politics of when to go to bed; he who fears corruption fears life."

-Saul Alinsky

24 posted on 10/10/2008 12:50:14 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: MathDoc

“”””As part of the process, photograph voters as they sign in.

With these two simple measures, we would have a better chance to identify fraudulent voters before they get their hands on a ballot, and we would have a better chance of prosecuting the criminals who vote or attempt to vote for dead people. How much would it inconvenience the real voters? Not at all. And the cost? Almost no time - perhaps even a savings since poll workers would read names off the ID instead of trying to find names based on a guess at the spelling - and almost no money for a webcam photo of each voter in line. I’d love to see it happen.”””””

Could not agree more with the webcam photo of every voter. Having just traveled to Canada, I was photographed by TSA besides showing my passport.

The silent majority needs to start raising some righteous hell!!!!!


25 posted on 10/10/2008 12:51:39 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: MathDoc

“”””As part of the process, photograph voters as they sign in.

With these two simple measures, we would have a better chance to identify fraudulent voters before they get their hands on a ballot, and we would have a better chance of prosecuting the criminals who vote or attempt to vote for dead people. How much would it inconvenience the real voters? Not at all. And the cost? Almost no time - perhaps even a savings since poll workers would read names off the ID instead of trying to find names based on a guess at the spelling - and almost no money for a webcam photo of each voter in line. I’d love to see it happen.”””””

Could not agree more with the webcam photo of every voter. Having just traveled to Canada, I was photographed by TSA besides showing my passport.

The silent majority needs to start raising some righteous hell!!!!!


26 posted on 10/10/2008 12:52:03 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: All
Check their thumbs! If they're purple, they've already cast their vote. oops. wrong country.
27 posted on 10/10/2008 1:00:18 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

28 posted on 10/10/2008 1:27:49 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

Now that was uncalled for!!


29 posted on 10/10/2008 1:28:21 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Hey! Can I vote when I’m dead too? Who shall I call to ask?


30 posted on 10/10/2008 2:01:28 PM PDT by SvdByFaith ("Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." - Jesus)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
I believe this points out the incompetency of the Registrars of Voters. They should be checking voter lists against the Social Security Death index on a regular basis.

When incompetency at the Voter Registrar’s Office is combined with organized fraud by ACORN, it is a recipe for disaster!!!!!

Obviously, somebody else is checking the SSDI and taking the risk to cast a ballot.

31 posted on 10/10/2008 2:16:10 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (don't worry, they only want to take water out of the other guy's side of the bucket.)
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To: mmichaels1970

LOL!


32 posted on 10/11/2008 11:25:21 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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