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Appeals court sides with Ohio secretary of state
Boston Globe via The Spartan Truth ^ | Terry Kinney

Posted on 10/10/2008 10:47:42 PM PDT by Gator_that_eats_Dems

CINCINNATI—A federal appeals court sided with Ohio's top elections official Friday in her running battle with Republicans over how to verify the eligibility of newly registered voters.

The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals set aside a federal judge's order a day earlier that Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner institute the means to verify voter registration information and make it available to Ohio's 88 county election boards.

Brunner argued that it would take two to three days to create the necessary computer programs, and that nothing in the Help America Vote Act required her to do what the lower court ordered. A three-judge panel of the appeals court agreed in a split decision.

"With less than a month until the election, and less than two weeks until the beginning of counting absentee ballots, the secretary cannot be required to undertake the extensive reprogramming and other changes to the election mechanics without complete disruption of the electoral process in Ohio," the majority said in its opinion. "The irreparable harm to the voting public caused by the district court's order is equally clear."

On Thursday, U.S. District Court Judge George C. Smith in Columbus ordered Brunner to verify new registrations by matching information on them against a database maintained by the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles or the Social Security Administration. He also ordered her to establish a process by which the county boards can access the information generated by the checks.

Brunner praised Friday's decision, saying there are sufficient systems in place to verify new-voter registration.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2008; acorn; corruption; democrats; election2008; elections; fraud; rats; voterfraud; voterregistration
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1 posted on 10/10/2008 10:47:42 PM PDT by Gator_that_eats_Dems
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.

- Joseph Stalin


2 posted on 10/10/2008 10:49:45 PM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Hello Supreme Court!


3 posted on 10/10/2008 10:50:28 PM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Wake up America..they are desperate to steal this election..and our beloved Nation!


4 posted on 10/10/2008 10:50:55 PM PDT by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

So what, maybe 100,000* bogus votes for Obama for the time being and it’s on to the Supreme Court?

*just a wild number


5 posted on 10/10/2008 10:50:57 PM PDT by unspun (Web search: "Cloward-Piven AND Obama" - get the truth out to all GOP officials & conservative media.)
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To: Chet 99
Talk about luck, the 6th court is heavy GOP and HUSSEIN gets 2 rats on a 3 judge panel.

They should bring it to the full court.

6 posted on 10/10/2008 10:51:34 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Paging Justices Thomas or Scalia. Please pick up the red courtesy phone.


7 posted on 10/10/2008 10:51:39 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Palin 2008 (oh yeah, and McCain too))
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Think the Supreme Court would take this issue up?


8 posted on 10/10/2008 10:52:02 PM PDT by Styria
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

OK OHIO IT IS YOUR TURN TO SHOUT!

YOU MUST STAND UP AND START PETITIONS....THIS IS AWFUL!


9 posted on 10/10/2008 10:52:16 PM PDT by Texas4ever (!WHO IS OBAMA?)
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To: Danae

Yes, the USSC...will be moving quickly on this...


10 posted on 10/10/2008 10:53:43 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

At least a third of Acorn registrations are fraudulent. Don’t know how a court could side with the Ohio SOS. Ohio voters should take to the streets with pitch forks.


11 posted on 10/10/2008 10:54:20 PM PDT by Miles the Slasher
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems
A three-judge panel of the appeals court agreed in a split decision.

Rhetorical question: Why is it that every time it's a decision the MSM agrees with, you don't hear the party of the judges? They just call it a "split decision."
But if the liberals don't like a decision, the first 3 paragraphs of the article will be about the party makeup of the court and who appointed the Conservatives.

12 posted on 10/10/2008 10:59:22 PM PDT by PressurePoint
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To: Rome2000

I believe the full court can throw out the decision.


13 posted on 10/10/2008 10:59:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Styria
Think the Supreme Court would take this issue up?

Naaah....it's just about the integrity of our electoral process. No big deal.

14 posted on 10/10/2008 11:01:32 PM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: Red Steel

When?


15 posted on 10/10/2008 11:04:27 PM PDT by tomymind
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To: shield

Before it goes to the to the USSC, the whole 6th court will want to look at it, where it will overrule the 3 court panel.


16 posted on 10/10/2008 11:06:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: tomymind

I suppose the Ohio Repubs will file an appeal.


17 posted on 10/10/2008 11:07:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Our election process and legal system is a complete joke. The easiest things my 8 yr old could decide on as logical is ruled the opposite and we as a society all stand idly by.


18 posted on 10/10/2008 11:13:25 PM PDT by smith288 (Maverick - Barracuda 08! Http://www.cafepress.com/smith288)
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To: Danae
Hello Supreme Court!

Supreme Court is not going to touch an election case. Nope, they are not going to get near it.
19 posted on 10/10/2008 11:13:38 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Red Steel

Will they?


20 posted on 10/10/2008 11:14:32 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems
Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner (Democrat) is not doing her job.

H.R. 3295 [107th]: Help America Vote Act of 2002

--- Section 302 ---

Provides for provisional voting by individuals who declare that they are registered to vote in a Federal election in a jurisdiction but who are not on the official list of registered voters or are otherwise alleged to be ineligible. Requires that: (1) such individuals be permitted to cast a provisional ballot; (2) the ballot be promptly verified and counted if determined to be valid under State law; and (3) the voter be able to ascertain whether the vote was counted, and, if the vote was not counted, why it was not counted.

Declares that States that do not require voter registration for Federal elections may meet these provisional voting requirements using voter registration procedures established under applicable State law.

Requires: (1) a sample ballot and other voting information to be publicly posted at each polling place on the day of each election for Federal office; and (2) that if polling hours are extended as a result of a court order any individual who votes during the extension will vote by provisional ballot and the ballot cast shall be held separate from other provisional ballots cast by those not affected by the order.

--- Section 303 ---

Requires each State without voter registration requirements for Federal elections to implement a single, uniform, official, centralized, interactive computerized statewide voter registration list that contains the name and registration information, including a unique identifier, of every legally registered voter in the State to serve as the official voter registration list for the conduct of all elections for Federal office in the State.

Requires the appropriate State or local election official to perform list maintenance with respect to the computerized list on a regular basis and to provide adequate technological security measures to prevent unauthorized access to the computerized list.

Requires the State election system to ensure that voter registration records in the State are accurate and are updated regularly. Prescribes minimum requirements for verification of voter registration information, including driver's license number or the last four digits of a Social Security number.

Requires voters who register by mail to present a current and valid photo identification when voting in person, or if voting by mail, to enclose a copy of such identification or of a current utility bill, bank statement, or government document showing name and address.

Requires that mail-in voter registration forms developed under the National Voter Registration Act of 1963 include questions requiring voters to verify that they are U.S. citizens and old enough to vote. Requires States to notify voters who fail to complete the question on citizenship and provide them with an opportunity to complete the form before the next Federal election.

--- Section 304 ---

States that the requirements established by this title are minimum requirements and nothing in this title shall be construed to prevent a State from establishing stricter election technology and administration requirements so long as they are not inconsistent with requirements under this title or specified Federal law.

21 posted on 10/10/2008 11:19:40 PM PDT by smokingfrog (God doesn't wear a wristwatch.)
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To: shield

Usually courts do not like to be overruled unless you’re the 9th Circus. If this gets appealed to the Supreme Court, the 6th will probably want a second look at it.


22 posted on 10/10/2008 11:20:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

ping!


23 posted on 10/10/2008 11:23:27 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obama and Osama: Both have friends who have bombed the Pentagon)
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To: Rome2000

They shopped until they got enough Dems on the Panel of Judges. It is done all the time!


24 posted on 10/10/2008 11:23:53 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

The three judges (one dem borrowed from the 8th circuit, an LBJ appointee)

:
Moore was nominated by President Bill Clinton on January 24, 1995

Griffin was appointed to the Sixth Circuit on June 10, 2005, after being nominated by George W. Bush on June 26, 2002

BRIGHT Judge, U. S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit
Nominated by Lyndon B. Johnson on April 25, 1968


25 posted on 10/10/2008 11:25:39 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Are they really defying the Supreme Court of the United States?


26 posted on 10/10/2008 11:32:16 PM PDT by wastedyears (Now sadly living in the DPRNYC [Brooklyn])
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Jennifer Brunner

27 posted on 10/10/2008 11:38:58 PM PDT by DemforBush (Palin! Palin! Palin!)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems
Hhmmmm, only a couple of weeks 'till the election;
guess its time to decide which name to vote under.
first.
28 posted on 10/10/2008 11:39:06 PM PDT by norton
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems; xzins
The United States of America
Born July 4, 1776
Died October 9, 2008

A Republic... I we can keep it.
Benjamin Franklin


29 posted on 10/10/2008 11:39:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
The United States of America
Born July 4, 1776
Died October 9, 2008

A Republic... If we can keep it.
Benjamin Franklin


30 posted on 10/10/2008 11:40:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

You heard it first through The Spartan Truth.


31 posted on 10/10/2008 11:41:19 PM PDT by Gator_that_eats_Dems
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

Our last hope to stave off a full bore lurch into socialism will be to get the U.S. Supreme Court somehow involved in the presidential election.


32 posted on 10/10/2008 11:42:42 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Arkinsaw
LOL They have no choice. The issue is both too big now, AND they are gonna hear it from US if they don't. What we did to the Congress with that bailout we can do again to the USSC. Just think Florida Recount. If the USSC makes a decision its the law of the LAND and ALL 50 States MUST follow. BIIIIG big deal. They will HAVE to hear it and make a very timely decision. And it should be easy, we will see how good and which side our supremes stand on. If they side with NOT protecting the Purity of the Vote, then I really will fear for this republic, because it will mean our vote is irrelevant. The United States will have shifted to a Socialist State. They will have to take the case.
33 posted on 10/10/2008 11:45:08 PM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: Red Steel

I think they bumped it cause they don’t want to be the deciding court, they passed the buck knowing it would be appealed and that way the decision doesn’t fall on their shoulders.

Either a vote is real and it matters, or it doesn’t and toads and snails in vacant lots mean more than we do. 500 “Misplaced” votes got Washington State a Dim Governor, 5 people went to prison form ACORN for it, but she is still in office.


34 posted on 10/10/2008 11:48:05 PM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems
Short version:

"We will let voter fraud continue"

35 posted on 10/10/2008 11:50:54 PM PDT by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Junior_G
Our last hope to stave off a full bore lurch into socialism will be to get the U.S. Supreme Court somehow involved in the presidential election.

It won't happen. Nobody gives a crap.

Nobody.

This country is officially a Banana Republic.

Elections are meaningless.

This is a coup.

36 posted on 10/10/2008 11:51:00 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

My ignorance aside, can’t a voter sue in federal court that their vote is being made meaningless by not vetting the voters?


37 posted on 10/10/2008 11:56:46 PM PDT by machogirl (i)
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To: Danae; Arkinsaw

No, they do have a choice.

It’s called the law.

I don’t blame the USSC.

Election laws are with the states.

I hope the states start enforcing the laws they have on the books.


38 posted on 10/11/2008 12:49:18 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Sarah'cuda Rocks)
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To: P-Marlowe

That’s not happening yet!
Stop it!

Get over your dour self!


39 posted on 10/11/2008 12:51:55 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Sarah'cuda Rocks)
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To: P-Marlowe

I like you, but tonight you are a drama queen.


40 posted on 10/11/2008 12:54:15 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Sarah'cuda Rocks)
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To: Texas4ever

YEP OHIO should launch a nation wide BACK-FIRE


41 posted on 10/11/2008 1:10:03 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Danae
I agree. They woke up a sleeping giant with the socialism/acorn/bailout/stock market crash. Republicans are awake now, and maybe some independents who just got their pockets picked.

As for the zombies, maybe they can follow their pharoah back to Hawaii, or some other paradise like Kenya, Cuba, or Venezuela and introduce subprime lending and $ocial programs to those hip spots.

42 posted on 10/11/2008 1:16:57 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (W T H !!! How long was I asleep?)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

GOP needs to request a hearing from the full court ASAP.


43 posted on 10/11/2008 1:18:25 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: 4woodenboats

Posted on another site from an Ecuadoran gentleman named Antonio Sosa:

“As someone born in Ecuador with friends and relatives in Latin America, I’m terrified watching how people in the United States are being manipulated just like people in Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador to put a Marxist in power.”

“The similarities between Rafael Correa’s campaign for president of Ecuador and that of Obama for U.S. president are amazing. Correa had no experience but was young, charismatic and had good speaking skills. Correa’s slogans were the same as Obama’s: CHANGE, YES WE CAN, etc.”

“Informed Ecuadorians were not able to convince their clueless compatriots that Correa was a fake and not the young and wonderful savior the media was portraying. They could not compete in ads with the millions Correa had (mostly from unknown sources).”

“Once he took over, Correa dissolved Congress and took control of the legislative and judicial powers. In other words, he became a dictator. Ecuadorians are poorer than ever. The CHANGE has been toward Marxism and greater poverty for all.”

“It’s now obvious that Correa works for Chávez and terrorists AGAINST the United States.”

“Most informed Ecuadorians, when they realized the similarities between Correa and Obama, felt confident that Americans could not be fooled as Ecuadorians had. However, it seems many Americans are as clueless as the poorest and most ignorant people in Ecuador or Bolivia.”

“I hope it’s not too late and Americans realize that Obama is a Marxists with ties to Islamic terrorists, just like Castro, Chávez, Morales, Correa and Odinga.”

See: Texasdarlin blog

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/obama-and-odinga-new-video/#comments


44 posted on 10/11/2008 1:28:31 AM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems; Las Vegas Dave; Stand Watch Listen; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; ...

You might want to Ping your full list.

If this doesn’t get cleared up, I am wondering what the use will be to vote or be a poll observer in Ohio. No matter what we see, hear, and document it will be worthless.

See also Boehner: End Tax-Payer Funding of ACORN
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2102688/posts


45 posted on 10/11/2008 2:52:55 AM PDT by EBH ( Welcome to the United Socialist States of America. Oct. 1, 2008)
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To: EBH
Might be a good question to start asking of John McCain and Sarah Palin at the Rally and Fund Raisers.
46 posted on 10/11/2008 2:56:59 AM PDT by EBH ( Welcome to the United Socialist States of America. Oct. 1, 2008)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems
"With less than a month until the election, and less than two weeks until the beginning of counting absentee ballots ..."

OK, can someone explain what is happening here? I thought the law in Ohio was you had to be registered to vote 30 days prior to election day. And the Sec. Of State said that the same day registration and voting using absentee ballots was legal because these votes were only being cast and would not be counted until election day thus adhering to the 30 day requirement.

But now we learn that absentee ballots will actually be counted prior to, less than 30 days, the election day!

47 posted on 10/11/2008 2:57:36 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Chicago stealing Ohio’s election ping


48 posted on 10/11/2008 3:02:32 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (A Vice-President Sarah Palin finally gave me a candidate to vote for.)
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To: Chet 99

How true is that, I’m sick to my stomach.


49 posted on 10/11/2008 3:18:05 AM PDT by Bush Revolution (Not all CHANGE is good and I HOPE America understands that...GEAUX TIGERS!!!!)
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To: DemforBush

She’s got dead eyes.


50 posted on 10/11/2008 3:49:06 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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