Bullets from the Underground (NY Brink's Murders 1981)

Time Magazine ^ | November 2, 1981 | Claudia Wallis

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A bloody robbery attempt brings a roundup of '60s fugitives

The armored Brink's truck pulled up to the Nanuet National Bank near suburban Nyack, N. Y., shortly before 4 p.m. and two guards began loading $1.6 million in cash. Suddenly three armed men in ski masks jumped out of a red van and opened fire. One guard was killed instantly and the other critically wounded. The three bandits and an accomplice dashed off with the loot. "They didn't even ask them to hand over the money," declared an incredulous witness. "They just blasted away."

The robbers changed conveyances at a nearby shopping center and a few minutes later ran smack into a police roadblock. Two Nyack police officers who had stopped the lead vehicle, an orange U-Haul van, were shot dead by figures who leaped from the back of the van.

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Θbama was an adult living in New York less than 20 miles from where the Weather Underground and the Black Liberation Army slaughtered two police officers and a Brink's security guard. That is also the same year, he publicly admits to traveling to Pakistan. News accounts indicate that he travels to Jacobabad, Pakistan which was near to Osama bin Laden's base camp in Quetta.

He is a unique figure in history to have been in proximity to infamous domestic and international terrorists. But this fact is not interesting enough to the main stream media.

[palmer]

Θbama was an adult living in New York less than 20 miles from where the Weather Underground and the Black Liberation Army slaughtered two police officers and a Brink's security guard.

Proximity? Aren't there better arguments against Obama than proximity?

[ncfool]

Where was Ayers living in 1981 was it near the location Obama at Columbia U.

[Harry Wurzbach]

Was not Ayers in NYC at the time, living a few blocks from Obama?

[El Sordo]

Interesting use of Theta.

[Harry Wurzbach]

Obama reluctant to release his Columbia records. Maybe it’s simply to hide a less than stellar academic record. Or perhaps it’s to cover his track crossing with Ayers at that point in time, who apparently took some courses at Columbia. Now why would that be important....?

[nuconvert]

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here, ..... but sounds like you’re stretching

[Canedawg]

Pretty good article, written in 1981, before journalism officially died.

Of course, something not mentioned was Burns’ alias:

One of the former Black Panthers arrested in connection with the Brinks robbery is Nathaniel Burns, a member of the Black Liberation Army. Burns is also known as Sekou Odinga. Burns/Odinga was sentenced to 25 years-to-life for attempted murder of a police officer. (ODINGA, sound familiar?)

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/1981-new-york-city-just-a-bizarre-coincidence/

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Drinking coffee and having a political coming out party in the home of the unrepentant terrorist couple Ayers and Dohm is pretty proximate in most people's opinions.

[ncfool]

Strange his years in college are a mystery?

Occidential?
Columbia?
Harvard?

I bet Obama and Ayers had some coffee at Chock full of Nuts on 57th st.

[red flanker]

One point to remember is the the Θbama campaign was misleading about exactly where he visited Pakistan (claiming only to have visited Karachi and Hyperabad, India), so any info from them will be deceptive and questionable.

[ncfool]

Sekou Odinga? tell me more. Where is he today. What is his pedigree?

[doc1019]

Not trying to defend, in anyway, Obama, however:

I have a cousin that had a friend whose second cousin (twice removed) knew a friend that was in the theater were Oswald was captured … the day after the incident. Coincidence, I think not. /s

Stretching to say the least. ;-)

[The_Media_never_lie]

Θbama was an adult living in New York less than 20 miles from where the Weather Underground and the Black Liberation Army slaughtered two police officers and a Brink's security guard. That is also the same year, he publicly admits to traveling to Pakistan.

Why did he travel to Packistan? Was if for a vacation?

[EDINVA]

maybe he’s saying that Obama wasn’t 9 years old when the Ayers/Dohrn crowd (Weather Underground) committed this attempted robbery and cold-blooded murders in New York ?

Maybe he’s saying Obama was a politically involved Ivy League student in NYC, only 20 miles away from Nyack, when this crime went down, and can’t pretend he just didn’t have a clue about who Ayers/Dohrn and their comrades were ?

[ncfool]

Some strange links on the net on this name. I had never heard of Sekou Odinga before today. But now it does make me wonder about the connection of Bill Ayers and his Weather underground group in NYC.

From : http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/1981-new-york-city-just-a-bizarre-coincidence/

This was mined from another blog on the net but it gets you thinking about Obama's years in New York City. Did he meet Ayer's and Dohrn while there?

My money is that he did.

It’s 1981, New York City. Barack Obama is residing two blocks away from Weather Underground leader William Ayers. We know very little about Obama’s life in NYC during that period; supposedly he transferred from Occidental College and completed undergraduate studies at Columbia University. Obama’s academic records and, in fact, the records of his life from those years in New York are lost. [See references at end.]

At Occidental, Obama belonged to Students for Economic Democracy (SED), a radical socialist “cousin” organization to Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), of which the Weather Underground was an off-shoot. Did Obama continue his SED membership at Columbia? (I read recently that Columbia was a major SDS center.)

In 1981, former Weather Underground members along with a few former Black Panthers are arrested in association with the robbery of a Brinks armored truck 20 miles north of Manhattan. A guard is killed and the driver is wounded. $1.6 million is recovered.

One of the Weather Underground members arrested for the Brinks crime is Kathy Boudin, along with her boyfriend David Gilbert. Boudin is sentenced to 20 years-to-life. Boudin and Gilbert leave behind a 14-month-old son, Chesa Boudin, who ends up being raised by Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn while his parents live in prison.

One of the former Black Panthers arrested in connection with the Brinks robbery is Nathaniel Burns, a member of the Black Liberation Army. Burns is also known as Sekou Odinga. Burns/Odinga is sentenced to 25 years-to-life for attempted murder of a police officer. (ODINGA, sound familiar?)

Obama and Ayers later end up collaborating on several controversial projects in Chicago. They work together to grant funds to Rashid Khalidi, Trinity United Church of Christ, and ACORN, among other “worthy” recipients. Ayers and Dohrn host a soirée at their home to launch young Barack’s political career. (But we’re now to believe that Barack did not know that Ayers and Dohrn created and starred in the Weather Underground, for which they were tried as criminals.)

As we often see in Obama’s history, here again there are a few degrees of separation that cause curious and intelligent people to ask: Is this just another set of odd coincidences?

I believe that Obama knew Ayers in New York City, and that he’s hiding the association with Ayers, among others, in refusing to provide information about his life there.

Obviously Obama’s campaign is lying (and insulting our intelligence) when it audaciously claims that Obama knew nothing of Ayers’ affiliation with the Weather Underground, up until…when?..(I must have missed that part of Axelrod’s explanation. When does he claim that Obama learned about Ayer’s lifelong project, the WU?)

In any event, accepting Axelrod’s explanation would require us to conclude that Obama is stupid. Really stupid, which sort of flies in the face of the magna cum laude thing from Harvard, right?

Everyone knows that the REAL questions are:

When did Obama first learn about Ayers?

When did he first meet Ayers?

What were his “off-campus” activities in New York?

Perhaps if Obama were open about his life, and did not go to such extreme lengths to cover up fundamental facts of his existence, we would not be forced to outline such events as the 1981 Brinks robbery.

This is just plain in your face as to being in the same city and the same time. Barack Obama needs to open his records from Columbia so we can see he actually was even a student there at that time. If you want Americans to vote for you Barack you need to be completely transparent. What a fraud the Democratic party has given America.

[ncfool]

Texas Darling link:
From : http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/1981-new-york-city-just-a-bizarre-coincidence/

[Nonperson]

Here's even better coverage of the Weather Underground/Black Liberation Army killers involved in the Brinks robbery! (16 pages of detail)

Tru TV Crime Library

[MikeFrancesa.com]

I think the FBI Files on Discovery channel had a one hour show on this crime.

[truthluva]

One man who is in prison for this is Sekou Odinga (given name Nathaniel Burns). He was with the Black Liberation Army who joined the Weather Underground in the Brins robbery. Odinga is also the last name of a man who claims to be a cousin of Barack Hussein Obama. Raila Odinga incited violence in Kenya after losing an election. His father was associated with Barack Hussein Obama’s father.

While I have not been able to link Obama to Sekou Odinga...I wonder about this coincidence given that Obama was in NY “attending” Columbia University at the time.

[ncfool]

Bernardine Dohrn worked at a shop called Broadway Baby

According to a 1982 New York Times report, Broadway Baby was implicated in an investigation of a series of violent armed robberies in New York—netting more than $2 million over a two-year span—committed by former Black Panthers and Weather Underground members in the early '80s.

Their aim? Global revolution, naturally. They needed cash, but the rich white parents weren't in a giving mood. So their privileged offspring grabbed guns, pointed them at the faces of the working man and, sometimes, they pulled the trigger.

At Broadway Baby, customers often paid by check and used driver's licenses for identification. On Dec. 28, 1979, information from two customer files was used to apply for two driver's licenses at the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles. The fraudulent licenses were used to rent getaway cars for the gang.

The manager of Broadway Baby at that time? Bernardine Dohrn. Invetigators at the time pointed their fingers at Dohrn, who is now a law professor without a license to practice law, at Northwestern University.

Dohrn and her husband, fellow academic William Ayers, turned themselves into authorities in 1980, but the rump of the Weather Underground committed its final violent act in 1981, a Brinks trick robbery that ended up with the deaths of two police officers and a security guard.

In 1982, Dohrn was brought before a federal grand jury investigating radical conspiracies linked to the New York robberies. She refused to cooperate or to provide a signature sought by FBI handwriting analysts. Dohrn was held in contempt of the grand jury and imprisoned for seven months.

[Nonperson]

p.s. The Brinks murders, the ongoing roundup of the killers and the ensuing trial were all over the New York Papers, radio and TV from 1981 to 1984. Barack was living in New York that entire period, he could not have escaped hearing about it and probable discussions!

[ncfool]

Does anybody know what year Burns took the name Odinga? That just too strange.

Were his relitives traced to Kenya or did he just take the Black Liberation movement name.

[Nonperson]

Where was Ayers living in 1981 was it near the location Obama at Columbia U.

Ayers was attending Bank Street College which was about four blocks from Columbia.

There are some addresses at #34 and #52 at this post.

[ncfool]

This link is very good. Reading the article they mention Safehouses that the Brinks robbers visited. Hmmm makes you wonder.

"safe houses," which the Brink's suspects visited after the robbery, were carefully analyzed and processed by crime scene technicians. Many fingerprints were lifted and identified, which gave cops additional leads. Several other members of the Weather Underground and the B.L.A. were soon arrested in coordinated raids with local law enforcement. One Cynthia Boston was located and arrested in a ranch house in Gallman, Mississippi in late October. The ranch was owned by another radical organization called the Republic of New Africa. Although she did not actively participate in the crime, Boston was charged with conspiracy in the Brink's robbery and held on $500,000 bail. Two other suspects, Jeffrey Jones and Eleanor Raskin, were arrested in the Bronx when cops went to an apartment to execute a search warrant. Jones and Raskin, former members of the Weather Underground, were charged with unlawful flight to avoid prosecution after cops found bomb-making material in a Hoboken apartment in 1979.

Over the next few months, the F.B.I. continued its relentless search. On January 20, 1982, the F.B.I. located and arrested Donald Weems, AKA Kuwasi Balagoon in the Bronx. Two months later, on March 26, 1982, the Joint Terrorist Task Force arrested Chui Ferguson and Edward Joseph, AKA Jamal Baltimore, in a raid on a Bronx apartment. But the main target, the man that planned and carried out the murderous carnage in Nyack, Jeral Williams, AKA Mutulu Shakur, escaped and later fled the New York area.

This stuff just gets worse and worse:

"We are at war and have no respect for the laws, the verdict or the sentence. We will continue to maintain our position as freedom fighters!" they said. More than half the time the court was in session, the defendants boycotted the trial. They called the robbery an "expropriation" of funds that were needed to form a new country in a few select southern states that ideally would be populated only by blacks.

The defendants called only one witness, Nathaniel Burns, AKA Sekou Odinga, who claimed to be a soldier in the B.L.A. He said that his organization was "fighting for the liberation and self-determination of black people in this country." Burns testified that the killings were suitable because the three dead men had interfered with the "expropriation" and therefore deserved to die. In his view, the theft of money was morally justified because those funds "were robbed through the slave labor that was forced on them and their ancestors."

Clark and Gilbert, who sat in respectful silence while Burns testified, seemed impressed. When Burns completed his testimony, Gilbert thanked him profusely. "I just want to greet you, Comrade Odinga, and express my respect for you for twenty years of commitment, self-sacrifice for the New Afrikan people, and all oppressed people. Stay strong and I am really thrilled to have someone speak the truth in this courtroom for a change. Free the land!" Gilbert said.

[ncfool]

Anybody ever here the story about the child of the Weather Underground convicted killer Kathy Boudin.

Her son, Chesa Boudin, 23, told the press that her mother wants to apologize personally to the victims' families. "It's very important to her that the families of those three men - know how terribly she feels about what happened," he said.

Chesa's father, David Gilbert, who drove one of the getaway vehicles in the bloody hold-up, is serving a 75-year-to-life sentence in Attica prison and will be eligible for parole himself in 2056. Gilbert has never cooperated with authorities in the investigation of the crime, which netted Boudin and friends $1.6 million in cash.

Chesa was later raised by comrades Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn

Chesa in 2008 would now be 28 years old. Funny how Obama said that Ayers had kids that went to school with his kids. I hope that some 527 or the McCain Campaign is really running the roots trail of anybody that Obama might have met along the way in NYC.

Chesa is not a boy scout either. He is a leftist like Ayers and Dohrn who raised him.

I'm am really scared for America.

[Nonperson]

Sekou Odinga? tell me more. Where is he today. What is his pedigree?

He is serving (3) consecutive 25-life state time and a 40 year federal sentence. Currently in Lompoc, CA.

You can write him at...

Sekou Odinga #05228-054 USP Lompoc 3901 Klein Blvd. Lompoc, CA 93436

[Nonperson]

Here's a nice writeup on Chesa Boudin from a fellow Yalie.

"For most Yalies, the name Chesa Boudin '03 is not likely to ring a bell. He is the son of Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, who in a 1981 robbery gone awry, aided in the murder of two police officers and a Brinks security guard in Nyack, N.Y. They were members of the Weathermen, a ragtag group of mostly white, mostly privileged kids who arose from the dark underbelly of the social and political upheaval of the 1960s. Chesa caused a minor stir in the media four years ago when he won a Rhodes scholarship, due to the way in which he spoke admirably of his parents' sordid past. Today, he would not be worth writing a column about were it not for his obsession with keeping himself in the spotlight. Nor, for that matter, should the sins of the father be held against the son. But when the son rationalizes away those sins and conflates them with his own political work, he becomes harder to stomach. Last month, along with several other Western political pilgrims, Chesa was interviewed by The New York Times about his working for the regime of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. He has translated into English a book of interviews with Chavez and this year published "The Venezuelan Revolution: 100 Questions and 100 Answers." He has delivered two master's teas at Yale in the past few months, extolling the virtues of the Caudillo of Caracas.

The precocious bastard raised by Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dohrn is also mentioned on the second page of this NY Times article about visitors to Hugo's Venezuela.

[roses of sharon]

In three weeks time these bastards will be in charge of the United States of America.

[hoosierham]

I believe the majority of the American people do not want and will not vote for the Marxist obama.Due to massive frauds ,he may come close,but not be elected.And then the Marxists will cry “black disenfranchised”.

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The “explanation” was that he had room mates at Columbia University who were Pakistani which apparently interested him enough to go to a country that was under martial law until 1985 and was adjacent to Iran (overrun by radical Shiites) and Afghanistan (invaded by USSR in 1979).

When he disclosed the trip in April 2008 in a private fundraiser in San Francisco, he claimed it gave him foreign policy experience without explaining what was his actual experience in Pakistan.

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Since his major at Columbia University was supposedly political science, his ultra liberal profs must have "covered" the events and opined on the rationale behind terrorist groups like Weather Underground and Black Lib Army.

What is also surprising is that the Brink's getaway driver was someone named Marilyn Jean Buck who was implicated and prosecuted for a terrorist attack on US Senate Building in 1983. So the eight year old what me worry Barack excuse is a demonstration of his disingenuousness.

[Nonperson]

Here's some good coverage on his possible THREE trips to Pakistan!

He first visited in 1981, the summer between Occidental and Columbia.

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Its been reported he made a second trip to see his mother in Pakistan (1987-1992) while she worked for the Asian Development Bank. The most likely time would have been 1991 after he graduated Harvard Law.

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There is also a suggestion that he visited Pakistan while an Illinois State Senator. That would have been 1997 thru 2004. It's possible the person has confused the dates. The Such Gup section appears to be a gossip/opinion section.

Obama came to Pakistan when he was merely a state senator more than a decade ago and not a full blown senator in the US Senate. So, can we expect him to look kindly upon us?

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