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Officials: Mexican Pot Growers Are Polluting American Wilderness
FOXNews.com ^ | Saturday, October 11, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/12/2008 1:15:41 PM PDT by metmom

PORTERVILLE, Calif. — National forests and parks — long popular with Mexican marijuana-growing cartels — have become home to some of the most polluted pockets of wilderness in America because of the toxic chemicals needed to eke lucrative harvests from rocky mountainsides, federal officials said.

The grow sites have taken hold from the West Coast's Cascade Mountains, as well as on federal lands in Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; camp; drugs; drugtrafficking; drugwar; governmentwaste; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; libertians; marijuana; minutemen; nannystate; natchezhawk; nationalforests; nationalparks; organizedcrime; pot; potheads; warondrugs; wod
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Just destroying the national parks.....

Never mind....

1 posted on 10/12/2008 1:15:45 PM PDT by metmom
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To: bcsco

ping


2 posted on 10/12/2008 1:16:37 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

In a related note....snack food sales are breaking records.


3 posted on 10/12/2008 1:17:31 PM PDT by badpacifist (Personal attacks on someones opinion of a "news article" you happened to post is asinine..)
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To: metmom

Could this have some connection with the deliberate failure to guard our border?


4 posted on 10/12/2008 1:23:20 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Ping


5 posted on 10/12/2008 1:25:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: metmom

Because everybody knows they fertilize pot with dioxin, the blood of children and used 90 weight gear oil.

I’m betting the toxic pollution is a trash dump and this article is just the usual BS.


6 posted on 10/12/2008 1:26:06 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Cicero

Ya think?

Sad to say, this is more likely to get people’s attention and get some to demand border control that the cost in human lives from crime. Or the cost to society for the drain the illegals are on our society and economy.


7 posted on 10/12/2008 1:27:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Seriously, every pot smoker (not growing his own) is

A) contributing to the murderous Mexican mafia, CERTAINLY a grand organization of brotherly love

B) supporting the grand scale rape of our environment through our natural parks, streams, animals, and resources

C) smoking not just his "natural weed" but also the strongest pesticides Mexico can make, straight into his lungs and bloodstream, lowering his life expectancy by 25-30 years

8 posted on 10/12/2008 1:32:48 PM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: Dinsdale

so you are an apologist for the Mexican mafia gangs running their operations through our forests?


9 posted on 10/12/2008 1:35:12 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: metmom

Somehow, I don’t think the environmentalists will really give a hoot about this one.


10 posted on 10/12/2008 1:41:48 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: metmom

I don’t see their proof that it’s Mexicans growing all this pot. All they offer up in the article is that chemicals long-banned in the U.S. have been found at the grow sites. I don’t know anything about local pot growers in California, but I do know that locals in TN, Ky, and WV have been growing pot in national parks since before there was such a thing as a national park.
Not saying it’s OK, but that’s how it is.


11 posted on 10/12/2008 1:44:52 PM PDT by JoanOfArk
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To: metmom

“Mexican cartels...pesticide...national parks.”

Again, I can’t stress this enough people.

Grow your own—or buy Canadian pot.


12 posted on 10/12/2008 1:45:57 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: JoanOfArk

I think you hit it on the nail.

What are people crop-dusting pot fields in National Parks?

Of course not.

More B.S. propaganda from the Jihad on drugs.


13 posted on 10/12/2008 1:47:46 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: metmom
...long popular with Mexican marijuana-growing cartels — have become home to some of the most polluted pockets of wilderness in America because of the toxic chemicals needed to eke lucrative harvests from rocky mountainsides, federal officials said.

DNC: "As long as they aren't EVIL American corporations let it ride then, we're busy saving an ice wilderness from legitimate and legal energy explorers."

14 posted on 10/12/2008 1:58:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: metmom

Funny how Mexican alcohol distillers and tobacco farmers aren’t polluting the forest. Pot prohibition is a failure.


15 posted on 10/12/2008 1:59:36 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Yaelle

Then make it legal. Problem solved.


16 posted on 10/12/2008 2:00:32 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mlocher
Somehow, I don’t think the environmentalists will really give a hoot about this one.

Nope, they want their money's worth out of their PAC's.

17 posted on 10/12/2008 2:01:21 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Yaelle

As a cultivator/teadumping/criminal I can tell you...

If you can’t get your own (thanks Unky Scam) buy Canadian...or from friends.

There are plenty of good God-fearing folk who grow weed in this country.

This is Drug Jihadist propaganda. Pure and simple.


18 posted on 10/12/2008 2:02:20 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: mysterio
Pot prohibition is a failure

Your well isn't very deep is it.

19 posted on 10/12/2008 2:05:39 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

“Your well isn’t very deep is it?”

And neither is your statement.


20 posted on 10/12/2008 2:09:52 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: EGPWS
Do you think pot prohibition has not been a failure?
21 posted on 10/12/2008 2:10:01 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: metmom
Sad to say, this is more likely to get people’s attention and get some to demand border control that the cost in human lives from crime. Or the cost to society for the drain the illegals are on our society and economy.

Border control?

We don't neeeed no steeenkin' border control.

22 posted on 10/12/2008 2:12:00 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Natchez Hawk
And neither is your statement.

Does that mean I fit the mold and....Oh, I'm being pinged. ; )

23 posted on 10/12/2008 2:13:45 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Ken H
Do you think pot prohibition has not been a failure?

I could care less.

Give me freedom and prosperity and a nation strong enough to promote it and when life is good enough to lack concern for "important" issues I'll give it some thought personally.

24 posted on 10/12/2008 2:18:27 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

“Does that mean I fit the mold and...Oh I’m being pinged.”

Not exactly friend—you should look for your own place—don’t try to fit in any mold. You’re better than that.

And if you’re being pinged...well, I hope it is because you are interested in the opinions of others...

and not because you need others to tell you what to think. ;^=)


25 posted on 10/12/2008 2:23:29 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (End the Jihad on Drugs)
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To: EGPWS
I could care less.

You cared enough to respond to a claim that pot prohibition was a failure.

26 posted on 10/12/2008 2:24:19 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: EGPWS

“I could care less...Give me freedom and prosperity...”

You ‘cared’ enough to argue against the freedom of others.


27 posted on 10/12/2008 2:31:36 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (End the Jihad on Drugs)
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To: Dinsdale

blood, bone, chicken poo — they’re not going to pollute anything.

Colchizine isn’t pleasant, but it’s only used to make the seeds’ genes go berserk, and in minute amounts.

This story sounds more like the lobbying of bureaucrats who want a bigger budget and a new department or two.


28 posted on 10/12/2008 2:38:42 PM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: Ken H
You cared enough to respond to a claim that pot prohibition was a failure.

I placed my priorities on roster comfortably and my priorities are well placed to bring personal contentment.

It's a slow day and I met some new FRiends.

I STILL could care less about "POT" law's for it should be way down on the list of concern by all who live these day's.

29 posted on 10/12/2008 2:47:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: metmom

The Federal Boondoggle needs to do two things:
1: Create a school that teaches how to safely identify and neutralize Mexican pot growers.
2: Issue licenses and tags.

Problem solved.


30 posted on 10/12/2008 3:05:12 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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To: Natchez Hawk

“More B.S. propaganda from the Jihad on drugs.”

The war on drugs has been a failure and an amazing waste of resources and generator of violence.


31 posted on 10/12/2008 3:21:14 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

Truly you are right friend.

So many lives ruined, so many families destroyed, so many drugs still around.


32 posted on 10/12/2008 3:23:10 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (End the Jihad on Drugs)
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To: metmom

Hemp was once used to make rope. I would imagine the ancient dwellers of many National Parks grew it and used it for that as well as for their peace pipe rituals.


33 posted on 10/12/2008 3:35:24 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Fichori

Open season all year long.


34 posted on 10/12/2008 4:03:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Yaelle
The penalty/risk for growing is so much more severe than it is for possession of under an ounce, it makes growing an enterprise that only criminals or people with a stupid toleranc for risk to engage in.

If you want to see the criminal element taken out of the pot dealing game, you've got to change the law. Make growing/possessing legal. Problem solved.

35 posted on 10/12/2008 4:48:56 PM PDT by Huck (Teddy Roosevelt vs. Che Guevera)
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To: mysterio
Then make it legal. Problem solved.

Yep.

36 posted on 10/12/2008 6:02:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Fichori

Nixon did that in the ‘70s. It’s called the DEA. Any more bright ideas?


37 posted on 10/12/2008 6:09:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: metmom
Here's an interesting site. Pick a state. Any state. And see God's Chilrun' on display.

DEA Most Wanted

38 posted on 10/12/2008 6:33:52 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Put Palin in the White House. Send McCain to Sun City, AZ)
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To: TigersEye

I was actually talking about citizens repelling the Mexican invasion by letting the Fish and Game department regulate the hunting of Mexican Pot Growers.

Instead of costing the government like the DEA does, it would make the government money.


39 posted on 10/12/2008 6:41:53 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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To: TADSLOS

There must be some computer glitch. I picked a couple US states and all I got was Mexican names and profiles.


40 posted on 10/12/2008 7:14:08 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Fichori

I knew you could outdo yourself with a little encouragement.


41 posted on 10/12/2008 8:56:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: mysterio

yeah, then we will have millions of more addicts due to it’s easy and legal status...pretty dumb.


42 posted on 10/12/2008 8:59:57 PM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian
You can't be "addicted" to Marijuana. It is habit forming only in the sense that cheeseburgers are.
43 posted on 10/12/2008 9:01:57 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: fabian

Unfortunately for your argument, pot is not physically addictive. Alcohol and tobacco are. Try again.


44 posted on 10/12/2008 9:21:17 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

so what if it’s mind and spirit addicting and not physically addicting...The mind addiction is probably worse. Happy and calm people don’t need to feel artificially good. Take a look at the be still exercise at fhu.com if you would like to see real and lasting peace in your life.


45 posted on 10/12/2008 9:46:02 PM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian
Happy and calm people don’t need to feel artificially good.

Very true. Be glad you are one of them. However, that being said, I see no reason to use the government to prevent others from consuming a plant while consuming some other plant remains perfectly legal.

Thank you for the link. I will check it out.
46 posted on 10/12/2008 9:49:55 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

your welcome...the be still exercise is the real prayer that the church has lost.


47 posted on 10/12/2008 10:03:30 PM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian
“yeah, then we will have millions of more addicts due to it’s easy and legal status...pretty dumb.”

What makes you think that there are millions of people out there just waiting for marijuana to be legalized so they can finally smoke it? Most years the U.S. has the highest per capita number of pot smokers in the world, and when we aren't at the very top we're right up there close to it. There is no country where a substantially higher percentage of the people smoke marijuana than what we see in the U.S.

Our laws don't stop a lot of people from smoking pot. It's already easily available. It's everywhere. The laws don't deter people because it's so easy to get away with smoking marijuana without ever getting caught, and if people do get caught not much will happen to them, especially if they live in one of the several states that have decriminalized where it's basically just like a traffic ticket and people don't end up with a criminal record. Even in parts of the country where the laws are harsher and the consequences of getting caught much more severe, people still aren't deterred because, again, it's so easy to do it without ever getting caught. Most pot smokers never get caught. They keep it at home for the most part and the police never even know they exist. The idiots that do get caught are often caught over and over again, but the majority could smoke pot thousands of times throughout the course of their lives and never get caught, and they know this. Young people who want to try pot are never going to be deterred much by the laws.

The laws don't work. If they did, we'd see substantial differences in the percentage of people that smoke pot in states that have decriminalized and those that haven't. Instead what we see is that per capita use is high even in some states with the harshest laws and in some states where they've decriminalized it is low. We see the same thing internationally. Look at Holland. For more than 30 years now they've allowed people to possess marijuana. They even sell from shops there out in the open. Some of these places are chains. In some cases they'll have like a neon marijuana leaf or something on the store front. They aren't hidden at all. Some will have their product displayed like donuts and bear claws and whatnot like you might find at a bakery. Others hand you a menu with several different varieties of marijuana, hash and marijuana food products on it. These store have permits to do what they are doing, pay taxes and all that. This has been going on for decades there. And guess what, the most recent study I saw showed that slightly less than 20% of the Dutch have tried marijuana compared to over 40% of Americans. With all that easy access, why aren’t all the Dutch running around with five joints hanging out of their mouths?

The reason more people don't smoke marijuana here or in Holland or anywhere else is because there are all sorts of good reasons not to smoke it not related to its legal status. Despite what some people might think, it's not that great. Most people who do try it don't like it that much, or we'd have a heck of a lot more pot smokers. According to our latest government survey, over a 100 million Americans have tried marijuana. If it was legal would we see a huge jump in use? I doubt it very seriously. We already have among the highest use rates in the world. there is no other place where a substantially greater percentage of the population smokes it. It doesn't matter if the laws are on the harsh side or whether they basically just allow it like the do in the Netherlands and several other countries. There are just so many people that will want to smoke marijuana despite all the negatives that come along with it. We might see a spike for a while until the novelty wears off, but after that we might very well see use dropping just like we've seen with tobacco. Marijuana is entirely unregulated and with some fluctuations in the use numbers use has remained high in this country. Tobacco use has been dropping now for decades. We could probably do the same thing with pot, and it will help a lot that all the activists who say its good medicine for anything that ails you and that its the super plant that could save the world and all that nonsense will larger just drift off farther and farther into obscurity when it's legalized. When it's legal it will just be another unhealthy vice and our young people will be much more likely to believe us when we tell them about all the harms it can cause rather than just accusing us of feeding them Reefer Madness propaganda like so many of them do today.

48 posted on 10/13/2008 8:15:33 AM PDT by TKDietz
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