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Debate in Obama's past
Washington Times ^ | October 11th, 2008 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 10/12/2008 8:09:33 PM PDT by shield

The most telling debate Barack Obama ever had was not with John McCain but Patrick O'Malley, who served with Mr. Obama in the Illinois Senate and engaged him in a colloquy every American should read.

The Obama-O'Malley debate was a defining moment for Mr. Obama because it dealt with such a fundamental issue: The state's duty to protect the civil rights of the young and disabled.

Some background: Eight years ago, nurse Jill Stanek went public about the "induced-labor abortions" performed at the Illinois hospital where she worked. Often done on Down syndrome babies, the procedure involved medicating the mother to cause premature labor.

Babies who survived this, Nurses Stanek testified in the U.S. Congress, were brought to a soiled linen room and left alone to die without care or comforting.

Then-Illinois state Sen. Patrick O'Malley, whom I interviewed this week, contacted the state attorney general's office to see whether existing laws protected a newborn abortion-survivor's rights as a U.S. citizen. He was told they did not. So, Mr. O'Malley - a lawyer, veteran lawmaker and colleague of Mr. Obama on the Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee - drafted legislation.

In 2001, he introduced three bills. SB1093 said if a doctor performing an abortion believed there was a likelihood the baby would survive, another physician must be present "to assess the child's viability and provide medical care." SB1094 gave the parents, or a state-appointed guardian, the right to sue to protect the child's rights. SB1095 simply said a baby alive after "complete expulsion or extraction from its mother" would be considered a " 'person,' 'human being,' 'child' and 'individual.' "

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abortion; jeffrey; livebaby
The bills dealt exclusively with born children. "This legislation was about preventing conduct that allowed infanticide to take place in the state of Illinois," Mr. O'Malley told me.

The Judiciary Committee approved the bills with Mr. Obama in opposition. On March 31, 2001, they came up on the Illinois Senate floor. Only one member spoke against them: Barack Obama.

1 posted on 10/12/2008 8:09:33 PM PDT by shield
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To: shield

that’s amazing!

and, every liberal newspaper swears up and down that the republicans are lying about this.


2 posted on 10/12/2008 8:13:23 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: shield

despicable


3 posted on 10/12/2008 8:14:07 PM PDT by zwerni (*** PALIN/mccain 2008 ***)
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To: shield

any video on this?

also, is there a link to the actual bill?


4 posted on 10/12/2008 8:15:05 PM PDT by zwerni (*** PALIN/mccain 2008 ***)
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To: ken21

Didn’t BHO lied about this...as McCain said look at the record.


5 posted on 10/12/2008 8:16:29 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Does this mean that they are now law in IL?


6 posted on 10/12/2008 8:18:26 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment-buy another gun today!)
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To: zwerni
I'm sure the bills can be found at the State of Ill...here are the numbers:

In 2001, he introduced three bills. SB1093 said if a doctor performing an abortion believed there was a likelihood the baby would survive, another physician must be present "to assess the child's viability and provide medical care." SB1094 gave the parents, or a state-appointed guardian, the right to sue to protect the child's rights. SB1095 simply said a baby alive after "complete expulsion or extraction from its mother" would be considered a " 'person,' 'human being,' 'child' and 'individual.' "

7 posted on 10/12/2008 8:21:21 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: basil

I believe they are.


8 posted on 10/12/2008 8:22:13 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Obama wants babies born alive to be murdered! if their living doesn’t fit with HIS Definition of Living!
This the same Obama that said if one of his daughters got pregnant inadvertently, that HE would want ner to have an Abortion rather than being PUNISHED the rest of her life witha gift from GOD! Doesn’t THE MESS-UP* should like a Loving Christian to you all! NOT!!

Then we read in today’s Washington Times that Obama must have condoned and still does ODINGA’s brutal Executions and burning Christians alive in their Churchs in overturning KENYA’s legitimate Government!This article is a Must Read!

Every second that passes proves more that Obama is a ruthless Terrorist bent on tearing America apart and replacing it’s Governmet with one modelled after Castro’s, Chairman Mao’s, and Hugo Chavez’s Venezuala of today!

This might sound harsh and over the TOP, but believe and observe: It is terribly realistic and achievable by the Terrorists Obama is and represents.


9 posted on 10/12/2008 8:34:10 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: zwerni

ok, don’t jump on me because I haven’t mastered the “how to post a link” stuff yet, but you can still copy and paste:

these are the transcripts of the debates:
http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf
http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST040402.pdf

then him defending it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skq5M1Ksp_c&feature=related


10 posted on 10/12/2008 8:34:23 PM PDT by old and cranky (You! Out Of The Gene Pool - Now!)
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To: shield
Mr. Obama, we are all temporarily alive.
11 posted on 10/12/2008 8:37:48 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: old and cranky

Excellent...Thank you very much.


12 posted on 10/12/2008 8:38:05 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Isn’t that the truth...this man is not smart...just a hate filled criminal...and he thinks America is prime for the pickin’


13 posted on 10/12/2008 8:40:52 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

mark


14 posted on 10/12/2008 8:42:00 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Country First*****McCain/Palin 08*********vs. CountryWIDE First [obama and the donks])
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To: shield

BUMP...this is the real deal of bambi on what he did in Ill as a state senator.........


15 posted on 10/15/2008 8:00:35 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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