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1 posted on 10/13/2008 12:22:25 AM PDT by Fred
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To: Fred
The whole Obama tax scheme aside, there is another painfull suprize on the very near horizon that is going to threaten every home owner, even those with paid off houses , living on fixed income. The houseing boom shot the prices of houses up, and in most areas, those prices are still up and around those values, with maybe a 2-5% decrease in value over the last few months. Now, most peoples houses are still worth double and triple what they were 5 years ago, except for those who bought in the last 2-3 years.

The "suprize" is many- MOST communities have not yet, or are now just starting to re-assess property taxes, and these drastic increases in value are going to double and triple peoples property tax bills, not to mention school taxes which are includedand are based on property values.

People who are now barely paying the bills and property taxes are going to be in for a big suprise over the next year or so.

For a lot of people, having to cough up 5-10,000 more at what ever time of year their municipality issues property tax bills will be beyond their means.

2 posted on 10/13/2008 12:34:34 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: rabscuttle385

The stupid Sarbanes Oxley legislation has been bad too. In 2007 not one IPO was made. Not one!

We are killing the goose that lays the golden egg.


3 posted on 10/13/2008 12:42:06 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: Fred

It annoys me when people say that after all the fuss, Clinton was not so bad. Well as bad as Clinton was and he was bad, he did not hate America. That alone should show that people are in a lot worse situation with Obama.


6 posted on 10/13/2008 1:17:28 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Fred
Ah, but what's the similarities between 1933 and 2009? That's the real question...
7 posted on 10/13/2008 1:22:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: Fred

There is something that is consitently missing in response to OBama’s plan to tax (punish) companies that send jobs “over seas.”

1)Companies don’t pay taxes. Taxes become a cost of doing business and raise the price of products and services. The tax burden trickles down to the consumer. WE pay the taxes.

2) The reason businesses relocate over seas is not primarily because of cheap labor. The market all companies want to compete it is the US. There is a lot of costs that are necessary to ship parts for assembly and ship products back to the US. The US is unfriendly to businesses in the TAX BURDEN department. TAXES create huge liabilities and require vast amounts of overhead in accounting and legal departments to legally follow the rules. The liability is significantly less overseas.

Raising taxes on big business drives up incentives to relocate overseas. But I don’t hear anyone making this case in the campaign.


14 posted on 10/13/2008 6:22:41 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: Fred

There is something that is consitently missing in response to OBama’s plan to tax (punish) companies that send jobs “over seas.”

1)Companies don’t pay taxes. Taxes become a cost of doing business and raise the price of products and services. The tax burden trickles down to the consumer. WE pay the taxes.

2) The reason businesses relocate over seas is not primarily because of cheap labor. The market all companies want to compete it is the US. There is a lot of costs that are necessary to ship parts for assembly and ship products back to the US. The US is unfriendly to businesses in the TAX BURDEN department. TAXES create huge liabilities and require vast amounts of overhead in accounting and legal departments to legally follow the rules. The liability is significantly less overseas.

Raising taxes on big business drives up incentives to relocate overseas. But I don’t hear anyone making this case in the campaign.


16 posted on 10/13/2008 6:27:37 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: Fred
This paragragh deserves repeating:

We are no longer the low-tax beacon of the major industrialized world. Numerous countries in Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Asia and elsewhere now have lower capital gains taxes than the U.S. The same goes for top marginal income tax rates, where Albania is at 10%, Estonia 13% and Russia 17%, just to mention a few. Here in the U.S., the current top rate is 36% for Federal, and if you live in NYC or California, you probably pay very close to 50% all-in. Our 15% long-term capital gains tax can't compete with the 0% rates in many other countries, but don't forget that many capital gains taxes aren't long-term, at which point you will pay 36% or higher.

The effect of the current high-tax policies is becoming an increasing disaster. There has been no employment growth in places such as Silicon Valley in the last decade, because U.S. companies are choosing to locate more employees in lower-tax areas such as China, India and Eastern Europe. Have you noticed the lack of IPOs in the U.S. this year?

17 posted on 10/13/2008 6:27:47 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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Obama doesn’t have a clue about economic development. Remember, he accomplished zilch as a community agitator other than advancing his own career. If the loons control all 3 branches, we’re screwed.


18 posted on 10/13/2008 6:27:52 AM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Rep. Thaddeus McCotter is my hero.)
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To: Fred

Obama doesn’t have a clue about economic development. Remember, he accomplished zilch as a community agitator other than advancing his own career. If the loons control all 3 branches, we’re screwed.


19 posted on 10/13/2008 6:28:42 AM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Rep. Thaddeus McCotter is my hero.)
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To: Fred
Right now there is a Crisis of Confidence in the economy and in our leaders' ability to come up with a solution. It is a direct result of the sub-prime mortgage crisis. The securities held by the banks and investment companies are currently worthless because there is no confidence. Without confidence the credit markets have started to freeze up.

The government is trying to get things moving with billions in buyouts and rescue money but few have confidence that the government will make the right choices on where to use those billions.

The current situation on Wall St. reflects the extreme uncertainty in the economy. People are looking for a safe place to put their money and not finding it. If the US makes the wrong moves now we could see a drain of capital from our country that would dwarf the billions flowing to the oil producing countries when it was $140/bbl.

If investors see the US as being an uncertain and unfriendly place to invest we won't see a recovery anytime soon.

26 posted on 10/13/2008 7:56:39 AM PDT by eggman (Obama is now The Zero. He used to be The One but he added The Negative One=Joe Biden.)
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To: Fred

Spot on.


27 posted on 10/13/2008 8:02:41 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Fred

This makes much too much sense (and cents and dollars for that matter) to be implemented.


33 posted on 10/13/2008 9:16:25 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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