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OBAMA to self-employed plumber: "I'm going to 'spread the wealth around'!"
Townhall ^ | October 13, 2008 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 10/13/2008 8:10:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I've said repeatedly that Obama lies as easily as he breathes. More proof of this has been self-evident in his "giving 95% of voters a tax-cut." (Only I guess its not as self-evident as I would like it to be - because liberals are stupid and do not look at facts when their Messiah speaks.)

But here's the thing. The bottom roughly 37% of citizens do not pay federal taxes. So that means that under his plan only 58% will get a "tax-cut". Those bottom 37%ers will be getting PURE WELFARE. Stolen directly from the small business owners of America (87% of which fall in the top 5%.)

See if you are self-employed, and you run a business it is likely you fall into the top 5%. But that doesn't make you wealthy - not by a long shot.

But the bottom 37% that do not pay taxes would receive a check with monies in it taken directly from the small businesses.

But a word about the top 5% as well...

Small businesses create the overwhelming majority of new jobs. Taxing them additionally (in most cases raising their tax rate to over 40% according to Obama's plan) will cause them to RAISE PRICES and LAY OFF WORKERS. Thusly goods and services become MORE expensive for that bottom 95%.

Not a big deal to the lowest 37% because they have that new free money that grew on trees. But it directly squeezes the middle class into sacrificial territory.

In other words - Barack Obama is seeking to directly PUNISH the middle class by his bait and switch tax welfare program.

Which is why a self-employed plumber like this guy needed to ask the candidate first hand, "Why you punishing me for working hard?" To which the communist candidate responds in as marxian a tone as possible, "I'm trying to spread the wealth around..."

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This couldn't come at a better time: Hopefully this will wake some people up!
1 posted on 10/13/2008 8:10:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left is definitely becoming bolder.


2 posted on 10/13/2008 8:11:42 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yep, very good!

And your post is one of several already posted...

3 posted on 10/13/2008 8:12:08 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What an ad this will make.
What an ad!

Couple it with that inane comment about other countries not being ok with where we put the thermostat and what we drive and you have a helluva an ad.


4 posted on 10/13/2008 8:12:18 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Say goodbye to any incentive to produce.


5 posted on 10/13/2008 8:12:29 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Thanks to the robber barons in D.C. and on Wall St. I've been forced to become a minimalist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this socialist trash gets elected to the presidency, I will have no faith left for our country.

The candidacy of Hussein is a referendum on Socialism.


6 posted on 10/13/2008 8:14:37 PM PDT by KoRn (Barack Obama Must Be Stopped!!!)
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To: KoRn

Plan B: http://www.livinginthephilippines.com


7 posted on 10/13/2008 8:15:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How anyone could vote for the this terrorist appeasing Obama is beyond me.

To the freepers that say voting for McCain is no different than Obama, SUCK ON THIS. You are wrong and if Obama wins, I sure as hell hope it hurts you all financially.
8 posted on 10/13/2008 8:17:48 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t count on! Worse part is that this clown will have both houses and HE WILL DO IT! God have mercy! PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEE LORD!


9 posted on 10/13/2008 8:18:31 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: GOP_Lady

Right. Just another example of a liberal’s generosity. They’re generous with other people’s money.


10 posted on 10/13/2008 8:18:32 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Plus he told the plumber, “I just want to help the people behind you be a success too!” and “I think its better when you spread that wealth around”.

Any of you know of unfair barriers to hard working people becoming plumbers? Obama is full of kooky ideas like this. The plumber’s crime is being successful, and Obama plans to take his money and give it to others who do not work as hard or as well.

Frightening. Obama is a total jackass radical.

Oh and say goodbye to the offshore drilling that 80% of Americans want.


11 posted on 10/13/2008 8:19:26 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Translation: I’m going to take the hard earned money you WORKED for and give it to those that didn’t. Welcome to the Obamanation. Reparations and wealth re-distribution, and punishment for success.


12 posted on 10/13/2008 8:20:03 PM PDT by thatdewd (All that is necessary for the triumph of Evil is that good men do nothing.)
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To: thatdewd

I am hoping the McCain camp seizes on this opportunity for a great ad using Obama HIMSELF in the ad.


13 posted on 10/13/2008 8:22:52 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: Williams
Typical socialist. Sees life as a zero sum game. Someone wins at another’s expense.
14 posted on 10/13/2008 8:23:49 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher; Obama is America's George Galloway.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems nice, the girls are pretty, gotta Luv the weather and the 1911 Colt was practically born there, but big ole fat China is sittin over there on the left lickin its chops.


15 posted on 10/13/2008 8:24:37 PM PDT by redstateconfidential ("Go to the mattresses")
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To: LasVegasMac; 2ndDivisionVet

Still can’t be posted enuff!


16 posted on 10/13/2008 8:25:31 PM PDT by redstateconfidential ("Go to the mattresses")
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To: LegalEagle61
I am hoping the McCain camp seizes on this opportunity for a great ad using Obama HIMSELF in the ad.

Amen. Also, I'd love to see him just quote part of the IBD editorial "Socialist Tsunami" explaining exactly what 0bama's "tax plan" REALLY means. If he did these 2 things, he'd win by a landslide.

17 posted on 10/13/2008 8:26:53 PM PDT by thatdewd (All that is necessary for the triumph of Evil is that good men do nothing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The irony of Obama preaching socialist economics to a self-employed plumber astounds me.


18 posted on 10/13/2008 8:27:02 PM PDT by usmcobra (There are 455,000,000 reasons why Obama should show his eligibility to be president!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; All

The trouble is that about half of those voting will believe this cr@p nonsense

. They don’t seem to be capable of thinking beyond grabbing the golden goose by the neck, and choking it to death.


19 posted on 10/13/2008 8:27:31 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Williams
Any of you know of unfair barriers to hard working people becoming plumbers?

I don't know about presently, but 35 years ago in Kansas City, generally only the sons or nephews of plumbers could get into the apprentice program of the union, which was about the only way one could be a plumber in the area at the time.

So we had a hereditary plumber caste.

20 posted on 10/13/2008 8:29:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: redstateconfidential
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.

It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

-Alexander Tyler"


Bears reading.
21 posted on 10/13/2008 8:30:03 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama's propaganda is being fashioned by COMMUNISTS. That's enough for any American to stop him!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

**OBAMA to self-employed plumber: “I’m going to ‘spread the wealth around’!”**

Not what a small-business owner wants to hear.

Obamanation is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.


22 posted on 10/13/2008 8:30:08 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Translation: “I'm going to spread YOUR wealth around.”
23 posted on 10/13/2008 8:30:24 PM PDT by allmendream (White Dog Democrat: A Democrat who will not vote for 0bama because he's black.)
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To: usmcobra

“The irony of Obama preaching socialist economics to a self-employed plumber astounds me.”

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He is a cosummately unaccomplished, affirmative action, Ivy league lawyer/politician.

In other words, totally worthless except as an elitist empowered by political correctness, and class and race warfare.

I seriously doubt he could properly run a lemonade stand.


24 posted on 10/13/2008 8:31:23 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: KoRn

We can still hang in there with a lot of time on our knees praying.


25 posted on 10/13/2008 8:31:24 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is a tax cut for the bottom 37%. They get a cut of the taxes you pay.

He will be defended in his false statements with this kind of thinking and play on words from the liberal media.


26 posted on 10/13/2008 8:31:37 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (Stop saying the media is biased; THEY ARE PARTISAN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oboma does not give speeches. He preaches. He learned how to "evangelize" by studying Reverend Write.

He's not preaching to democrats, either. He's preaching to the Republican middle class.

Why would democrats care about a tax plan? The majority doesn't pay taxes, they feed off them. They complained about the Bush tax cut doing nothing but buying a muffler, yet they say nothing about Obomas bogus promise to give every one a lobster in every pot.

Why would democrats care about people keeping their houses? Unless those houses are free, nonworking democrats can't afford to pay for them anyway, let alone pay the various taxes and upkeep necessary to keep them

Why would democrats care about free health care? They already have it through Medicaid and Medicare.

Yep. The power and the available cash comes from the Republican middle class. That's who he's preaching to. That's his target. The democrats are, as usual, the useful idiots who are following a preacher they think is the returned Messiah. They actually think he's preaching to THEM.

27 posted on 10/13/2008 8:31:49 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Spreading the wealth around happens when those with money buy goods and services from other people. Another option is for those with money to freely give their funds to causes or people they believe deserving.

Anything else is stealing, extortion, confiscation and otherwise violates the seventh commandment. If any entity other than the government was doing it, it would be illegal.

28 posted on 10/13/2008 8:31:54 PM PDT by Desdemona (Lipstick only until the election. The gloss has been sacrificed for the greater good.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will Atlas shrug?


29 posted on 10/13/2008 8:32:13 PM PDT by stboz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HEY BERRY! Way don’t you spread your wealth around first and we’ll see how it goes!


30 posted on 10/13/2008 8:33:54 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Salvation

Is that the only thing our Founding Fathers did?


31 posted on 10/13/2008 8:34:11 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: KoRn

This election is an IQ test for America. If Obama wins the left will know america has been dumbed down and will swallow the socialist agenda. If McCain wins they will work for the next four years to dumb down the public further. SO they can nominate someone who’s further left to push their ideology. Their testing america to see how much of their ideology will be tolerated. Their nominees have gone further left every election.


32 posted on 10/13/2008 8:34:19 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Williams

Spread that wealth around. This is not a new idea on change.

“The starting point for Marxist philosophy, and the basis of Das Kapital, is the observation that, in general, the world revolves on a capitalist economy wherein people with money hire people without money to make things and provide services. Marx observed that capitalism is self-defeating and predicted that class distinctions would become wider and wider. He proposed that capitalism should be replaced with a system where work is performed for the common good rather than for money provided by a privileged class—in other words, he proposed communism.

He believed that virtually everything had to change, and he entertained little doubt that his ideal system could only come about by jettisoning everything valued by Western society. He further proposed that this new system should be implemented by means of a revolution at the grass-roots level of society, or the proletariat, as he called it.

Marx, like the 18th-century philosopher Rousseau, insisted that ideologies—in fact, the rules of culture and government in general—are formulated primarily to suppress the poorer classes and should be forcibly abandoned.

Like Rousseau, Marx believed that human nature is basically good and only becomes corrupted by “these evil institutions” of society. Unlike Rousseau, Marx did not see education as the solution; he envisaged social and economic upheaval. Where Rousseau had espoused individual integrity in his philosophy, Marx preached collective action and suppressed individuality. Despite his religious background, Marx had no use for formal religion; to him it was just more suppressive ideology in a different form, designed to keep the lower classes in subjection.”

http://www.vision.org/visionmedia/article.aspx?id=598


33 posted on 10/13/2008 8:34:37 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: stboz

“Will Atlas shrug?”

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The BIG shrug may still be coming, but the John Galts of the world have already been moving their productive enterprises out of the increasingly socialistic USA.


34 posted on 10/13/2008 8:36:16 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Socialist redistribution of wealth. Where's the incentive to work? Where's the incentive to better one's self? Where's the incentive to strive for something more?

Where's the reward for hard work and effort? Taken up by the socialists to redistribute. Yeah, we're all equal, but some pigs are more equal than others in Obama's nation.

35 posted on 10/13/2008 8:36:18 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: EyeGuy

We need to pray he gets turned loose without a teleprompter more frequently in the coming weeks; every time he speaks off the cuff he gives us talking points to use against him.


36 posted on 10/13/2008 8:38:05 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: jakerobins
This election is an IQ test for America.

In this case doing poorly on an IQ test could result in the loss of a city.

37 posted on 10/13/2008 8:39:06 PM PDT by Stentor (Obama is Bill Ayers' Renfield.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

“Say goodbye to any incentive to produce.”

No kidding. Doesn’t Hussein get it? Why would we continue to work hard just so we can support lazy losers? Not gonna happen.


38 posted on 10/13/2008 8:39:37 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If it's not close, they can't cheat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This couldn't come at a better time: Hopefully this will wake some people up!

Hope it gets covered, but doubt it.

Socialism was waiting at the station and we just passed it. Where are we headed?

39 posted on 10/13/2008 8:40:25 PM PDT by topfile
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now that The Marxist opened his big, fat mouth, I can finally say it:

“Spreading the wealth?” This is code. This election is about what every election is about and has been about since 1968 at the latest. Taking from “whitey” and giving to inner-city blacks.

Period.

Part of it is buying their votes and keeping them on the Democrat Plantation(tm). Part of it is (wait for it!) **revenge** and stoked racial hatred. Part of it is rubbing it in “whitey”’s face. Part of it is white liberals wanting to beg for forgiveness for the guilt they feel (don’t ask me why, who knows what goes on in their twisted minds).

Nonetheless, that’s what this is about, just like 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1976, 1972, 1968, you get the idea. Taking income, wealth, anything they can get their hands on, and handing it over to black people (whether they need it or not).

Obama wants to spread the wealth around — from one SPECIFIC group of people to another SPECIFIC group.

Well, there are ways to fight back. I have two Mk. I eyeballs and am perfectly capable of choosing to do business at certain places over others — such as based on who they employ.

Call it racist — I don’t care. I won’t be robbed by a racist cabal without a fight. I’m the son of immigrants, I have a clear conscience, and I won’t be victimized by racist blacks.


40 posted on 10/13/2008 8:43:41 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama's propaganda is being fashioned by COMMUNISTS. That's enough for any American to stop him!)
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To: MichiganCheese
It is a tax cut for the bottom 37%. They get a cut of the taxes you pay.

The $250,000 is NET income - Before taxes, overhead, and payroll. He's going to destroy the small business and his middle class target. The poor have no money and therefore no power, but if he can bring the middle class down to the poverty level, the number of government dependents (democrat voters) will multiply dramatically, but not by peoples choice.

Breaking down the middle class is his goal. His preacher training has some people reved about .....well, they don't know....they're just reved for "some reason." It's the preaching trick. They think he's actually fighting FOR them, rather than against them.

Preachers are very good at what they do. They start off slow and rhythmic. They "set the beat." They start of softly, then go a little louder, then a little louder, and when the crowd looks ready, they hit it home. In Obomas case, the useful idiots cheer. Afterwords, through, they have no idea what he just said.

41 posted on 10/13/2008 8:47:58 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: usmcobra
The irony of Obama preaching socialist economics to a self-employed plumber astounds me.

Isn't that the truth!? This must be the most tone-deaf comment by a politician in history. More proof this man CANNOT think on his feet and is totally unqualified for dog catcher (forgive me FReeper Dog Catchers).

42 posted on 10/13/2008 8:52:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: FlyingEagle
He proposed that capitalism should be replaced with a system where work is performed for the common good rather than for money provided by a privileged class—in other words, he proposed communism.

That's why socialism always fails. The key words here are "SHARING THE WORK". The left wing base wants to feed on the harvest without helping with the sowing, weeding, trimming, and gathering.

A nation cannot survive on feeders alone. Think Joseph Stalin.

43 posted on 10/13/2008 8:55:31 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: RoseofTexas

Nobody is even mentioning his bill that makes the U.S. directly under report to the U.N. and responsible for getting rid of world poverty...which he will of course sign in.


44 posted on 10/13/2008 8:56:41 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Windcatcher
Obama wants to spread the wealth around — from one SPECIFIC group of people to another SPECIFIC group.

That's the only reason Capitalism is failing. Sharing the wealth of the producers with those who don't produce at all is like throwing it down a garbage disposal. Nothing ever comes back out!

If the WORK was shared, everyone would earn their own keep, and all would be prosperous. There would be no big divide. It would be inevitable.

45 posted on 10/13/2008 9:01:03 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Beowulf9
responsible for getting rid of world poverty...which he will of course sign in.

Share the WORK, Oboma! Otherwise, let those who've earned their bounty eat, and let those who have not also feed on what they've sown as well. Let's keep this country fair.

46 posted on 10/13/2008 9:04:44 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d think there would be alternatives along the Tea Party.


47 posted on 10/13/2008 9:05:59 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And I am sure McCain will bring this up in the debate.
Let’s not forget all of the illegals who will receive government subsidized health care in addition to continued welfare payments.


48 posted on 10/13/2008 9:09:02 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Failing to provide a tax-burdened bailout is like putting a horse's head in bed with Wall Street)
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To: EyeGuy
"The BIG shrug may still be coming, but the John Galts of the world have already been moving their productive enterprises out of the increasingly socialistic USA."

Yep.

Bump.

49 posted on 10/13/2008 9:12:27 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: KoRn

If this socialist trash gets elected to the presidency, I will have no faith left for our country.”

Yeah, for the first time in my adult life, I will be embarrassed of my country. Our military should just walk away, it wouldn’t be worth defending the neo-socialist USA. Let the gays, heterosexuals, transvestites, atheists, and the black liberation theorists defend themselves.


50 posted on 10/13/2008 9:13:44 PM PDT by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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