Skip to comments.Is Senator Obama a Christian or a Secular Socialist?
Posted on 10/13/2008 9:46:27 PM PDT by seastay
Marie Jon analysis of the black theology doctrine of Senator Obamas Trinity United Church of Christ suggests strongly that his beliefs are a throwback to the social gospel movement of the early 20th century.
Social gospel was socialism masquerading as Christianity. Rather than looking to Divine providence and personal salvation through faith in Jesus Christ, social gospel adherents sought perfection here on earth, through the political state.
That would explain Senator Obamas plans for socialistic redistribution of wealth through higher taxes and a vast expansion of the welfare state.
Looking At Obama and Black Liberation Theology
By Marie Jon
Barack Obama belongs to an unabashedly Black African-centered church. Its teachings focus on a black value system. It has knowledgeable Americans questioning how Obamas church (Chicagos Trinity United Church of Christ) and its pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Jr. influence the man who wants to be President of the United States.
Why couldnt Obama have chosen to be a Methodist, a Pentecostal or a Lutheran? What drew him to a church that many find questionable?
Many Americans attend churches their parents attended. Others choose denominations where they are comfortable with the teachings.
As a whole, the United Church of Christ does not teach black liberation theology. The main Conference of the denomination is responsible for the theological teachings of its churches and the manner in which they are presented.
The nagging question begs to be answered. Why would the top Democrat presidential candidate feel more comfortable attending an Afrocentric church? Obamas attendance at a church that encourages blacks to separate themselves from the rest of American society must be explained. How can he claim to be able to unite and reach across to all the people in the nation?
Excerpts from the Trinity United Church of Christ ? Black Value System:
The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:
A congregation committed to ADORATION. A congregation preaching SALVATION. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA. A congregation committed to LIBERATION. A congregation committed to RESTORATION. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
American society has changed positively since the days of Martin Luther King and the freedom marches. Why is there this need by some to retreat back to the days of separatism while claiming that they are moving society forward?
Many people do not understand what black liberation theology is. If Mitt Romney found it necessary to make a speech about his Mormon faith, its about time that Obama explain black theology. There has been much controversy over faith in this election year. However, Obamas church leaves something to be desired regarding social acceptability of its ideology. Thus saith the Lord is taught in quite a different fashion.
Black theology teachings began in America during the Civil Rights Movement. A demanding authority of presumptuousness was ushered in claiming black theology as the legitimate Voice of God to all black Americans.
The central theme of black theology puts an emphasis on the oppression of the black people. All aspects of this type of theology become a subjugating theme.
According to mainstream doctrinal teaching, black theology falls short. Its cornerstone is one which focuses on the oppression of blacks. The biblical teaching in mainstream Christian denominations is Christ-centered. Their focus is the Lord Jesus Christ who was to come, came, and is coming once again, and will reign forever. I am the LORD; and they shall be my people. (Jeremiah 24:7)
Is black theology one of hope or does it purposefully dredge up painful feelings of victimization? If that be the case, it would be wiser to consider a church where it is fully understood that God is no respecter of color or gender. (Acts 10:34)
The terminology of black theology is questionable amongst many biblical theologians. Its teaching is improperly centered in human pragmatism. The Lordship of Jesus Christ is not held in proper biblical perspective. Freedom has been granted to all who have become believers of the Living Word. We show our faith in Christ by living upright and reaching out in love to others.
If Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. is not asking the most important question of all, who is Christ?, then he does his congregation a disservice. For it is from this premise that all questions can be answered. The teaching of a theology written by black men for black man presented to an exclusive segment of society can only be a stumbling block to God and a nation that was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs.
Accepting Christ as Savior makes all the difference in the perception of the believers life. His or her status in life is made abundantly clear. This question of what God has done through Christ is focused upon and no longer in doubt when we learn that we are Gods children.
Is Christ able to save you? Is it the Lord who brings positive changes in your life today? Is the believers walk moving forward and touching others for Christs sake? The answer ought to be yes, no matter what the color of our skin or gender.
In the final analysis, only by beginning to ask these questions for a starting point of Christian theology can black theology be defined. When one knows who Jesus Christ is, then man can begin to understand where God is in mans existence and problems, and how Christ will provide the help man so desperately needs.
The days of segregation are over. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28 )
The Goals Of Black Liberal Theology ? Dr. Robert A. Morley, an internationally recognized scholar in the fields of theology and apologetics.
l.The goals of BT are to turn religion into sociology, Christianity into a political agenda, Jesus into a black Marxist rebel, and the gospel into violent revolution. They are more interested in politics than preaching the gospel.
III. The Methodology of Black Liberal Theology
The main method employed by BT is to manipulate embittered young blacks by turning their feelings of inferiority, alienation, jealousy, hopelessness and self-hate, into racist rage against whites, Orientals and affluent blacks who are conveniently blamed for their lack of personal initiative to better their lot in life.
IV. The Main Philosophic Error of Black Liberal Theology
BT is based upon the philosophic error of relativism in which Jesus is viewed as only a religious symbol which can be interpreted anyway they want. Thus it does not matter who and what the historical Jesus really was. BT invented a black Marxist Jesus to lead the way to violent revolution because such a Jesus will serve their purpose. BT is condemned in II Cor. 11:4 and Gal. 1:8-9.
V. The Racism Of Black Liberal Theology
While BT is filled with racist statements against whites and Orientals, it is primarily a form of black on black racism. The following evidence demonstrates this to be true.
A. While BT claims to give blacks a better self-image, they unwittingly encourage a poor self-image among blacks by defining blackness in such negative terms as the poor, the oppressed, and niggers. Why do they always define the black experience in such negative terms? Why do they assume that all blacks live in the ghetto subsisting on welfare in the midst of crime and filth?
B. With its constant emphasis on God loves the poor, the oppressed, etc. BT actually paralyzes and demoralizes blacks to accept a parasitic life- style dependent on the government dole instead of fostering self-reliance and entrepreneurship.
C. It seems to me that BT feeds off of class envy and racist rage. Instead of spending their time blaming the white man for the black mans problems, BT ought to be encouraging black men or women to become financially successful through hard work and self-reliance.
D. BT often describes the black man as a helpless victim of forces and people beyond his control. But this negative stereotype often leads people to accept poverty, drugs, crime and filth as their unalterable fate.
E. BT makes a great mistake when it assumes that poverty automatically means crime and filth. Just because you are poor does not mean you have a license to rob, rape, or murder others. The poor are for the most part good and honest people. Crime is crime regardless of who commits it. Poverty is no excuse for criminality.
F. BT judges people on the basis of the color of their skin instead of the content of their character.
G. BT gives the impression that the black mans problem is his skin instead of his sin.
H. Most BT books glorify rage, hatred and violence instead of faith, hope and love.
I. BT preaches race instead of grace as the solution to problems.
J. BT cries out for political liberation instead of spiritual salvation.
K. BT thinks more of Marx than it does of Jesus.
L. BT is more interested in black culture than in Jesus Christ.
VI. The Liberalism Of Black Liberal Theology
BT is not a fundamental, Bible-believing, Christ-honoring theology. BT was created by white liberation theologians at white liberal seminaries and universities that are radically anti-Christian and anti-Bible.
A. Most of those involved in BT do not believe in the Trinity, the deity of Christ, His virgin birth, sinless life, vicarious death, bodily resurrection, literal ascension or return to this world. They claim that all such doctrines are Western.
B. Many of those who teach BT openly deny the immortality of the soul, a conscious after-life in heaven or hell, the resurrection of the dead, the Last Judgment and the eternal conscious torment of the damned in hell. They usually say that hell is being black on welfare in the ghetto. They attack those blacks who talk about heaven as a pie in the sky by and by slave mentality.
C. BT often denounces Christianity as racist and the white mans religion. But then it turns around and claims that Jesus was black. If Jesus was a black man, then how can Christianity be the white mans religion?
D. Most BT writers deny the inspiration, inerrancy and authority of the Bible while at the same time using it to foster their racist agenda.
E. Many BT leaders teach the theory of evolution in which man evolved from an ape in Africa as if that theory can give dignity to blacks or to anyone else. The theory of evolution actually destroys all dignity and morals by reducing man to an animal.
VII. The Absurdity of Black Liberal Theology
BT is so filled with self-contradiction and erroneous ideas that it is has no intellectual merit. For example, BT defines blackness and whiteness in the Marxist sense of class struggle. Thus BT is not really talking about blackness as a race but as a class. Wake up! Read that last sentence again. Did you get it? Black liberal theology is really concerned with class struggle and not about black people per se. What is black and white according to the BT books?
Black = anyone regardless of race or color who is economically and politically oppressed by the upper classes.
White = anyone regardless of race or color who is guilty of oppressing the lower classes.
Walter McCray in his book, The Black Presence In The Bible, quotes with approval the definition of blackness given by his liberal mentor, Charles Copher.
Additionally, one may be defined as black regardless of color or race; all who suffer oppression...are classified as black.(p. 161, n.72.)
This irrational definition ends up with some white people being black and some black people being white. According to BTs definition, a blond, blue- eyed, white Swede on drugs and welfare is black while the successful black man who owns his own company is white. Other absurdities abound in their writings.
A. BT claims that Adam and Eve were black. If this is true, then all men are black because they came from the first black parents. On what grounds then does BT divide up mankind into black vs white and black vs yellow? Arent we all black having come from the same original black DNA?
B. BT claims that Noah, his wife and their three sons and wives were all blacks. Yet, they also claim that the blacks descended from Ham. And they run through the Bible looking for Hamite references to track the history of the black race. How can this obvious contradiction be resolved ?
C. As part of its Marxist ideology, BT believes that history is as relative as morals. Thus BT rewrites history to foster its own socio-political goals. This is why BT does not hesitate to teach lies and to practice academic chicanery. The truth is not their concern. To manipulate young blacks into racist rage is always their real goal.
D. BT claims that nearly every individual and nation mentioned in the Bible was black. They do not prove that this true. They simply asset that this is so. Anyone who disagrees with them is labeled a racist.
E. BT claims that the ancient Sumerians, Assyrians, Babylonians and Persians were all black. Yet, they were the cruelest oppressors known in history. For example, the Assyrians enslaved and deported entire populations. Mass murder was their favorite means of oppression. How can they be black when they were worse oppressors than Hitler or Stalin?
F. BT claims that the ancient Egyptians were black and that the Jews were black as well. But since the Egyptians were a very oppressive society which enslaved the Jews and other minorities and conquered many surrounding nations, how can the Egyptians be black and oppress people at the same time?
G. BT just like the KKK and other racist groups claims that its race is the sole source of all that is good in all cultures. But this is a two edged sword. If the blacks are responsible for all the good in the world, then they are equally responsible for all the evil. To claim that the black man can do no wrong and that the white man and yellow man can do no good, is absurd as well as racist.
H. BT claims that the ancient Greeks were black and thus Greek philosophy was created by blacks. But then BT also says that the white Greeks stole their philosophy from African blacks. How can the Greeks be black and white at the same time? But if they were all blacks, then what is wrong with blacks sharing ideas?
I. BT claims that the Greeks stole their ideas from black Africans and thus all the good in Western culture comes from blacks. But if this is true, how can BT condemn Western culture on one hand and then claim that it came from blacks on the other hand?
J. BT also claims that all the good in Oriental culture came from African blacks. The Orientals thus stole their culture from the blacks. But if this is true, why are African motifs missing in Oriental philosophies and art?
K. BT authors claim that the Egyptian word Kemet means the land of the Blacks. In reality, the word actually means the black land referring to the dark soil along the flood plain of the Nile. It is used in Egyptian literature in opposition to the word Deshret which literally means the red land, a reference to the color of the dirt or sand in the desert.
VIII. Black Liberal Theology Contradicts The Bible
In order to make everyone in the Bible black, BT takes passages out of context, ignores the grammar of Hebrew and Greek, and then attacks anyone who disagrees with them as racist or white. But BT violates several clear Scriptures.
1. Acts 17:26 He made from one all the nations of mankind to live on all the face of the earth.
The Bible teaches that there is only one race ? the human race ? regardless of size, shape or color. Thus there is no black or white blood. There is only human blood which can be transfused from one man to the next regardless of color or race. BT con-tradicts this by talking about black blood.
2. Rom. 2:11 There is no partiality with God.
God does not treat people any differently because they are red, yellow, black or white. They are all precious in His sight. But BT claims that God is partial to blacks! This is just as wrong as the Nazis who claimed the same thing for the Ayrian race or the KKK who claims the same for the white race.
3. Gal. 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
BT divides the Church into different economic classes and pits them against each other. Thus they try to put asunder what God has joined together. The Body of Christ is one.
4. Eph. 4:4-5:2 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you. Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you, and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma.
BT preaches bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, slander and that blacks should seek revenge instead of taking the path of forgiveness.
5. 1 Sam 16:7 But the LORD said to Samuel, Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.
BT looks only at the outward appearance. This is wrong. We must judge people not by their color but by their moral character or lack of it.
Black liberal theology is not of God but of the devil. It is nothing more than white liberal religion and is used by white theologians and politicians to keep blacks down in order to use them as cannon fodder for a Marxist revolution. Black liberal theologians slave for their white Marxist masters to bring about a violent revolution that would guarantee that all men, blacks included, would always be poor and oppressed. The only answer to liberal theology, regardless of the color of those who teach it, is personal salvation through the Lord Jesus Christ. Once you have experienced the love of God in Christ, you do not have any room in you heart for the self-hate and racist rage upon which BT feeds. The black community needs a revival ? not a revolution; Jesus ? not Marx; Christianity ? not liberalism. Jesus is the only One who can change the hearts of all men and set them free from their bondage to sin.
May God add blessings to His Word: Therefore if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things are passed away; behold, new things have come. (2 Corinthians 5:17).
Obamas actions are not very Christ like. By their fruits shall ye know them.
He’s neither. He’s a citizen of Indonesia and a Muslim. His claims to be a Christian - especially in light of the fact that he sat in the pews of Trinity United Church of Christ under the teaching of Jeremiah Wright - are hollow, at best.
Obama is the ultimate con-man trying to get elected to the presidency as the first illegal alien to do so.
He should be deported back to Indonesia, where he belongs.
My guess is covert Muslim.
But the fact that Obama doesn't worship any god (other than himself) doesn't mean that he won't support Islam. Obama wants to destroy Western Civilization, especially America. He also doesn't particularly like Israel. So he'll favor the Islamic world for no other reason than that they're our sworn enemies. Just as atheistic leftists in Europe pander to the Muslims. It isn't because they worship Allah or respect Mohammed. It's because every advance by the Muslims constitutes a retreat for Christendom and Western Civilization. And they hate nothing more than the Western World and its Judeo/Christian heritage.
Obama is from this same ilk. He's too self-absorbed to conceive of a deity higher than himself. But he hates our nation and its heritage with a passion, and thus will side with the Islamic World against us to the extent feasible by law if he takes office. Perhaps even inching beyond the law on occasion.
One thing the author leaves out is the larger context of the United Church of Christ (UCC) denomination.
They are considered a “mainline” denomination, in that they have been around for a long time, descendant in the main from the Puritan Congregationalist churches of New England. Originally Calvinist, the UCC, is now one of the most theologically liberal denominations in America, ranking alongside the Unitarians in liberal theology. The UCC for example has allowed (and encouraged) openly practicing homosexuals as ministers for probably 30 years now. (In the notoriously theologically liberal Episcopal Church for example, the “gay bishop” is still scandalous to many—and openly practicing homosexual ministers have only been allowed in certain dioceses for not much more than the last 15 years or so....)
Anyway, the CONTEXT of a black liberation church....stuck in the socialist “social gospel” of the ‘60s, is not surprising in the über-liberal United Church of Christ denomination.
I don’t know what Senator Obama is really in his being...only God really knows. However, I did find this to be a very well written article. Any “Christian” group that takes its primary and central focus off the spreading of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the salvation from sin found in the Lord Jesus, is on dangerous, if not heretical ground. While I sympathize with Black Christians still subjected to prejudice, I am concerned when they make “civil rights” more important (based upon the emphasis placed upon it) that Salvation through Jesus Christ God the Son.
I’m a member of the NRA and an ardent 2nd Ammendment supporter. But, I would be very upset if my church spent its time talking about gun rights instead of the Savior.
That about says it all.
Great read...I’ve also bookmarked the site.
He’s a damn socialist one way or the other.
The ZerObamassiah stood around while his supporters said, Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor. Did he forget something? Did he forget he was a Christian? If he was the Christian he claims to be, he would have instantly put a stop to such language. Nope. Not. Nada. The ZerObamassiah lives up to his new name. He did nothing. Zero.
Christ was not a community organizer. Christ was truth. With the truth he saved all mankind. The ZerObamassiah has failed to follow the first rule of Christianity: ask, What would Jesus do? Obama could used this opportunity to tell the world the meaning Jesus in his life. To call Jesus a community organizer was to misunderstand Jesus purpose to the world. To compare the governors of our 50 states to Pontius Pilate was a distortion and an outrage. Instead we heard zip zero nada.
ZerObamassiah is an apt name for Obamas leadership. It is that failure in leadership that has failed to apply what one should know about his Christianity and the failure of responsibility to do what Jesus would do.
Ping to fully read later. Looks like a good analysis.
I believe it’s rather ignorant and silly to say Obama is a Muslim—especially when he’s repeatedly said he is a Christian—and never shown any inclination as an adult toward the practice of Islam.
However, I believe almost a majority of persons who say they are “Christians” have no idea what it means to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ...and I believe Obama is part of that majority, only a “cultural Christian” as he understands it.
I believe, from his actions, puroresu (above) is essentially correct, Obama is either an atheist, or a “practical atheist” (an agnostic).
That means he will be especially dangerous for Christians, and Jews...and may, due to his family connections, be easiest on Muslims. His real comrades though are the secular elite, which is so infatuated with their Obamessiah.
One thing folks should be aware about Clinton: His administration took no interest at all in religious persecution around the world. It took the Bush administration to make it a State Department office, and to take seriously the (literally) millions around the globe who are being persecuted, displaced, imprisoned and killed JUST for their faith (whatever that faith is). Liberal Democrats, in spite of all their supposed “compassion” had no interest at all in helping people of faith escape very real persecution around the world. Now, if they were “persecuted” HOMOSEXUALS then....the Clinton administration was falling over itself to help them...
I can only imagine an Obama administration would be worse in this than Clinton’s.
“... and never shown any inclination as an adult toward the practice of Islam.” Would recently reciting for a NYT writer the Muslim call to prayer in perfect Arabic count? He did that you know.
He is a Liberal, which means he believes there is no god greater than himself.
His father was a Muslim however his mother was a Christian and was buried Christian rite - his grandparents are practicing and his wife comes from a Christian family. Granted, I may not like Obama, but one thing I pretty much know about Obama is not a Muslim (I have a patient who I trust implicitly who worked with him and is white and said Obama led Lord’s prayer during grace at a dinner he hosted five years back).
Let me see, “there is no God but Allah, and Mohamed is his prophet.” I just wrote that, which, if I believed it...supposedly just saying it, would make me a Moslem.... though I know it’s a false statement. As an evangelical Christian I know the real God is not Allah, and Mohamed was a false prophet.
However, in liberal “Christian” circles, to say what I said 2ndly is considered rude and intolerant....and I’m sure Obama would say so too. Among that crowd, to know the Moslem prayer in Arabic is considered very chic and worldly, which is Obama defined (to them).
I believe a secular atheist/agnostic (which socialists usually are, and what I believe Obama has shown himself to be) is even more dangerous for America than a Moslem.
The trouble is Obama has repeatedly said he is NOT a Moslem, and that he is a Christian. When it comes to religion, one has to take a person at his word.
No, I don’t think he is a real, born-again, Christian. But I also believe a majority of Americans who call themselves Christians are that only culturally, and not real, born-again Christians. I have no idea if McCain is a born again Christian, as he has never said (that I’m aware of) that he is. So what? He is less of a socialist than Obama—and does have a few very conservative and even born again Christian associates (like Gov. Palin).
The problem is, since Obama has repeatedly said he is not a Moslem—and nobody has seen him with a prayer rug praying 5 times a day toward Mecca (a requirement, I’ll add, for all Moslems...), for right wing folk to keep claiming that Obama is a Moslem comes across as ignorant and ill informed.
Is he a Christian as he claims? No,even though he may think he is. But is he a closet Moslem? No, either. Obama is much worse.
Well and truly stated. And he is in fact much worse. A man claiming to be a Christian but who works to protect infanticide as a means to political empowerment for himself and his political party is much worse than a devout Muslim or even a back-slidden Christian, for he is serving the spirit of antiChrist.
And as we can clearly see, Obama will say or do anything to help him reach his goal, or I should say, will be TOLD to say or do anything.
“His father was a Muslim however his mother was a Christian and was buried Christian rite - his grandparents are practicing and his wife comes from a Christian family.”
His mother was a Unitarian and belonged to a small church that was known in the neighborhood as the “little red church” because of its Marxist leanings. Some Christian that.
You are correct. All of us with discernment see it. Too bad NO ONE will speak the truth! Satan is on the march! Good thing I know how the story ends....
Yes, the Manchurian Muslim.
He’s neither. He’s a Black Panther. That’s why people like Ayers, Wright, Rezko and Odinga love him.
He’s a wanna-be communist dictator hell bent on black liberation theology with muslim overtones .