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Child support law leaves man a default dad
Tulsa World ^ | October 13, 2008 | Jarrel Wade

Posted on 10/14/2008 4:39:29 AM PDT by RogerFGay

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To: ikka
considering that child support payments could be some $100,000 over 18 years.

That would be much, much lower than average today.
61 posted on 10/14/2008 7:14:59 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: spetznaz
Fact is, this is mostly Ronald Reagan's fault. Ronald Reagan's Mistake
62 posted on 10/14/2008 7:16:24 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: laotzu
Wow!! That’s good stalking.

I'm not defending wtc911 or Roger Gay here but doing research on the internet is not necessarily stalking. I think Mr. Gay might welcome people looking him up online in order to read more of his writings. If I'm mistaken, I'm sure he'll say so.

63 posted on 10/14/2008 7:16:38 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland (BTW, I am a woman :)
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To: E=MC2
I think this was part of the republican welfare reform. To deny welfare benefits unless the father was named.

This assumes that the woman KNOWS the guy's name. And this is not that unlikely if she's dating a thug from the hood who answers to a street name and does not give out his real legal name.

64 posted on 10/14/2008 7:17:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Problem is that the people responsible for this gross miscarriage of justice include all the elected Republicans and Democrats in the country. They include the judges that have been supporting the corruption for the past few decades. So you’re asking that the people in power act against themselves, which they’re not going to do.


65 posted on 10/14/2008 7:18:27 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: FrogMom
This sucks, the guy is being railroaded.

This is by no means a unique case. This is the way the law works - systematic and intentional injustice for all.
66 posted on 10/14/2008 7:20:06 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: E=MC2
I think this was part of the republican welfare reform. To deny welfare benefits unless the father was named.

But they aren't required to name THE father. They're just required to provide names.
67 posted on 10/14/2008 7:22:28 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
Fact is, this is mostly Ronald Reagan's fault. Ronald Reagan's Mistake

I can't argue with the validity of that but at least Reagan publicly endorsed the benefits of a traditional family life and acted as "something" of a role model for that in his second marriage with Nancy. GWB and his father have done the same.

It is one thing for a politician to talk the talk on *any* subject but few of them walk the talk in their own personal lives. I think a politician who does what he says others should do, should at least get credit for doing that much.

68 posted on 10/14/2008 7:22:32 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland (BTW, I am a woman :)
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To: E=MC2

i don’t have a problem with naming the father....that is the real father and in a case like this when it is proven that you are not then the courts need to deny payments to the momther and go after her for lying. why should the mother be given a free pass just to live off the system.


69 posted on 10/14/2008 7:22:52 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: RSmithOpt

our systems are out of control is all i can say. they want someone to pay and they don’t care who it is as long as they don’t have to deal with it any longer. its the same as railroading people through the court system and putting them in jail just because of an overzealous young prosecutor that wants to make a name for him or her self only to find out years later that the party was innocent.


70 posted on 10/14/2008 7:22:53 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: wtc911; laotzu; Travis T. OJustice

You’re lying about me because I live in Sweden and expose corruption that you don’t want exposed? That’s what I’m reading from what you’re saying. Once again wtc911 - are you pushing the same-sex marriage agenda?


71 posted on 10/14/2008 7:24:10 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: wtc911

You’re still lying. You have definitely done nothing to prove that I am a liar.


72 posted on 10/14/2008 7:25:11 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: PapaBear3625

Mr. Gay knows the reason for my posts.


73 posted on 10/14/2008 7:26:01 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Travis T. OJustice
LA County prosecutor Gil Garcetti is famous for making non-parental
fathers pay child support. Just having the wrong name is sufficient.


Yep, that was one of Garcetti's claims to fame.
It made him very popular with all the libs.

But The LA Times did run a good article exposing this legalized theft.
It at least generated noise; even a Democratic legislator tried
to get the law changed, but too many parties like the status quo.

What I can hardly handle is that my former state of Oklahoma
allows this Bravo Sierra to go forward.
74 posted on 10/14/2008 7:26:01 AM PDT by VOA
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To: An American In Dairyland

Except Reagan, as you know, is not a good reference in this context. More verification was needed in judgments of his work on family law reform.


75 posted on 10/14/2008 7:26:24 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: PapaBear3625
This assumes that the woman KNOWS the guy's name. And this is not that unlikely if she's dating a thug from the hood who answers to a street name and does not give out his real legal name.

You make it sound as though only poor kids, or black kids, or Mexican kids are rutting around like dogs. Yesterday I learned that my lily white, high upper class nephew and his "long time" (never heard of her before) girlfriend are having a baby in February. I urged his mother to tell him to get a DNA test BEFORE he signs *any* papers WRT the baby. She scoffed and called me paranoid. Well, I tried.

I guess its just my week to be disbelieved on the importance of these sorts of issues. I think I'll change my name to Cassandra. Oh, the irony.

76 posted on 10/14/2008 7:26:49 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland (BTW, I am a woman :)
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To: RogerFGay
Problem is that the people responsible for this gross miscarriage of justice include all the elected Republicans and Democrats

More irony.

77 posted on 10/14/2008 7:28:20 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland (BTW, I am a woman :)
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To: An American In Dairyland
MND Articles

Core Child Support Research Results
78 posted on 10/14/2008 7:29:15 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

You are holding Reagan to a higher standard than you do other politicians. That you cannot deny because I know better. I got it from the horse’s mouth...you.


79 posted on 10/14/2008 7:30:44 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland (BTW, I am a woman :)
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To: An American In Dairyland

No ... I mean this all started with “welfare reform” - which was actually family law reform. It was the result of Ronald Reagan jumping on the N.O.W. bandwagon and then selling it to the public with conservative rhetoric. I think you know that.


80 posted on 10/14/2008 7:30:48 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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