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Barack Obama on Gun Control (sourced info/quotes on BHO and Guns)
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Posted on 10/14/2008 7:35:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws

Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual's right to bear arms?

A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.

Q: But do you still favor the registration & licensing of guns?

A: I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets.

Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008

FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban

Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, "No, my writing wasn't on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns."

Actually, Obama's writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:

35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.

Obama's campaign said, "Sen. Obama didn't fill out these state Senate questionnaires--a staffer did--and there are several answers that didn't reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn't reflect his views."

Source: FactCheck.org analysis of 2008 Philadelphia primary debate Apr 16, 2008

Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok

Q: You said recently, "I have no intention of taking away folks' guns." But you support the D.C. handgun ban, and you've said that it's constitutional. How do you reconcile those two positions?

A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions.

Source: 2008 Politico pre-Potomac Primary interview Feb 11, 2008

Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing

Q: When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president?

A: I don't think that we can get that done. But what we can do is to provide just some common-sense enforcement. The efforts by law enforcement to obtain the information required to trace back guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers. As president, I intend to make it happen. We essentially have two realities, when it comes to guns, in this country. You've got the tradition of lawful gun ownership. It is very important for many Americans to be able to hunt, fish, take their kids out, teach them how to shoot. Then you've got the reality of 34 Chicago public school students who get shot down on the streets of Chicago. We can reconcile those two realities by making sure the Second Amendment is respected and that people are able to lawfully own guns, but that we also start cracking down on the kinds of abuses of firearms that we see on the streets.

Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas Jan 15, 2008

2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month

Obama sought moderate gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, but also voted in2004 to let retired police officers carry concealed handguns.
Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct 30, 2007

Concealed carry OK for retired police officers

Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois senate that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons. If there was any issue on which Obama rarely deviated, it was gun control. He was the most strident candidate when it came to enforcin and expanding gun control laws. So this vote jumped out as inconsistent.

When I queried him about the vote, he said, "I didn't find that [vote] surprising. I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has previously done--and had been trained extensively in the proper use of firearms."

It wasn't until a few weeks later that another theory came forward about the uncharacteristic vote. Obama was battling with his GOP opponent to win the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police.

Source: From Promise to Power, by David Mendell, p.250-251 Aug 14, 2007

Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities

Q: How would you address gun violence that continues to be the #1 cause of death among African-American men?

A: You know, when the massacre happened at Virginia Tech, I think all of us were grief stricken and shocked by the carnage. But in this year alone, in Chicago, we've had 34 Chicago public school students gunned down and killed. And for the most part, there has been silence. We know what to do. We've got to enforce the gun laws that are on the books. We've got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren't loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they're not made in our communities. There aren't any gun manufacturers here, right here in the middle of Detroit. But what we also have to do is to make sure that we change our politics so that we care just as much about those 30-some children in Chicago who've been shot as we do the children in Virginia Tech. That's a mindset that we have to have in the White House and we don't have it right now.

Source: 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum Jul 12, 2007

Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality

I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manfuacturer's lobby. But I also believe that when a gangbanger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels someone disrespected him, we have a problem of morality. Not only do ew need to punish thatman for his crime, but we need to acknowledge that there's a hole in his heart, one that government programs alone may not be able to repair.
Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.215 Oct 1, 2006

Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban

KEYES: [to Obama]: I am a strong believer in the second amendment. The gun control mentality is ruthlessly absurd. It suggests that we should pass a law that prevents law abiding citizens from carrying weapons. You end up with a situation where the crook have all the guns and the law abiding citizens cannot defend themselves. I guess that's good enough for Senator Obama who voted against the bill that would have allowed homeowners to defend themselves if their homes were broken into.

OBAMA: Let's be honest. Mr. Keyes does not believe in common gun control measures like the assault weapons bill. Mr. Keyes does not believe in any limits from what I can tell with respect to the possession of guns, including assault weapons that have only one purpose, to kill people. I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.

Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004

Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions

Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998

Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.

A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. Voting YES would:
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; constrains; constraint; constraits; democrats; elections; guns; gunvote; nobama08; obama
BHO does not support the Second Amendment...it is a charade to say he does.
1 posted on 10/14/2008 7:35:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
OBAMA-MCCAIN ISSUE COMPARISON CHART
2 posted on 10/14/2008 7:36:55 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: SoFloFreeper
'Nuff said:

News Release

Jim And Sarah Brady, Brady Campaign
Endorse Barack Obama And Joe Biden

For Immediate Release:
10-13-2008

Contact Communications:
(202) 898-0792

Washington, D.C. - Sarah and Jim Brady and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence with its network of Million Mom March Chapters endorsed Senator Barack Obama for President and Senator Joseph Biden for Vice President today, and urged Americans to vote for them.

Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign, issued the following statement on behalf of the organization and the Bradys:

"Senators Barack Obama and Joseph Biden know that we make it too easy for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons in this country. They know that our weak gun laws have too many loopholes, which lead to over 30,000 deaths and 70,000 injuries from guns every year.

"Senators Obama and Biden know that we can reduce those deaths and injuries from guns by strengthening our Brady background check system, getting military-style assault weapons off our streets, and giving law enforcement more tools to stop the trafficking of illegal guns.

"Fortunately, the candidates most favored by the gun lobby were rejected by the voters during the primaries. The gun lobby has lambasted Senator John McCain for being a leader on gun violence prevention issues in the past. In 2000 and 2001, he introduced legislation, gave floor speeches, and appeared in television ads to close the gun show loophole. In 2004, he gave floor speeches supporting access to crime gun trace data, requiring gun dealer inventories, and retaining background check records. Back then, Senator McCain was a "maverick", willing to take on the gun lobby.

"But now, Senator McCain has stopped talking about these issues and, instead, has pandered to the gun lobby whose opinions he once disdained. His erratic approach to gun violence prevention leads to our concern about whether a President McCain would remember and follow the leadership shown by Senator McCain in 2000 and 2004 and take steps to help reduce gun violence.

"The difference between the two tickets is clearest with regard to assault weapons. Senator Obama made his position clear in his acceptance speech in Denver when he said "the reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than they are for those plagued by gang violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals." And Senator Biden helped get a ban on assault weapons passed in 1994 and fought for its renewal in 2004.

"Senator McCain, however, opposed the assault weapon ban in 1994 and voted against its renewal in 2004. McCain's running mate, Governor Sarah Palin, told ABC's Charles Gibson that she also opposed a ban on assault weapons, saying that they were part of her "culture".

"The Obama-Biden ticket understands that the rights of law-abiding gun owners can co-exist with the reasonable restrictions which the U.S. Supreme Court recognized as "presumptively lawful" in its recent Second Amendment decision finding a general gun ban unconstitutional. As Justice Scalia stated, there is "not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever for whatever purposes." Senator McCain once understood this concept but that "straight talk" is now silent.

"The Obama-Biden ticket will work with law enforcement, gun violence victims, and ordinary citizens who want to do more to protect themselves, their families, and their communities by making it harder for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons.

"Along with Sarah and Jim, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters strongly endorses the Obama-Biden ticket and encourages our supporters to vote for them on November 4, 2008."

To find out more about other Brady Campaign endorsements, as well as where the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates stand on the gun issue, go to the Brady Voter Education Fund's web guide at BradyVoter.org (http://www.bradyvoter.org).

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3 posted on 10/14/2008 7:40:13 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: SoFloFreeper
BHO does not support the Second Amendment...it is a charade to say he does.

And neither the McCain "campaign" nor the NRA is doing a thing about it.

4 posted on 10/14/2008 7:40:29 AM PDT by Saab-driving Yuppie (The McCain operation is not a "campaign." It is a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
BHO does not support the Second Amendment...it is a charade to say he does.

And if he gets a 60 Dem senate you can bet your a$$ he's going to go after it.

Barack Obama wins the election? I go on a buying spree like never before.

5 posted on 10/14/2008 7:45:40 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The concealed carry probably pisses me off the most. I like how the only people that can carry are retired police. What about retired or active military? they go through extensive training in guns. Probably much more that your local police(I was going to Barney but I will keep it civil). How about people who are in competition at tactical handgun tournaments, obviuosly they are highly trained. Obama is just smoke and mirrors. Just look at England where they banned handguns years ago, one of the higher rates of crime with guns in all of Europe.
6 posted on 10/14/2008 7:46:50 AM PDT by rstark56
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

Oh really ? Perhaps you might like to throw the NRA-PVF some support $$$ , it is badly needed ....

The ads on the site are running in swing states and districts .

http://www.gunbanobama.com/


7 posted on 10/14/2008 7:47:41 AM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE VOLUNTEER AT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN OFFICE . THEY NEED YOUR HELP NOW !)
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To: Neu Pragmatist
Oh really ? Perhaps you might like to throw the NRA-PVF some support $$$ , it is badly needed ....

My wife and I are both life members and have given to the PVF in the past. For some reason, we haven't been solicited recently.

BTW, unless Ohio is no longer a swing state, I can safely say that the ads aren't running in Cincinnati or Dayton markets.

8 posted on 10/14/2008 7:51:46 AM PDT by Saab-driving Yuppie (The McCain operation is not a "campaign." It is a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; Jeff Head
Obama and Gun Control
9 posted on 10/14/2008 7:55:59 AM PDT by freespirited (We have met the enemy, and he is the MSM.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

All the Secret Service people around him carry guns. What makes his life more valuable than mine?


10 posted on 10/14/2008 7:57:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie
The NRA has been publishing quite a lot of information about Obama's anti-gun postitionas and anti-gun votes in the Illinois Senate in First Freedom magazine each y month during the campaign.

They have been threatened with lawsuits by the Obama campaign, yet continue to reasearch and expose his hypocrisy on the 2nd Amendment.

I hold active memberships in the NRA, the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) and the Virginia Gun Owners Association. I am VERY hard-core regarding the 2nd Amendment and I have been and will continue to be one of the FIRST people in line to criticize the NRA for taking postitions which, in my opinion, compromise our 2nd Amendment Rights.

In the past, my criticism of the NRA has led some here at FreeRepublic to call me "ignorant of the issues and anti-NRA". So, I am by no means an NRA "lap dog". But I ask you, what else, within the bounds of the law, would you have them do about Barack Hussein Obama?

11 posted on 10/14/2008 7:57:52 AM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Where does it say “Right to Private Property” in the Constitution.


12 posted on 10/14/2008 8:10:58 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Yo-Yo

bump


13 posted on 10/14/2008 8:34:51 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
14 posted on 10/14/2008 8:44:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

I believe the ads are running in Minnesota , Pennsylvania , Virginia ... I thought Ohio was on that list , but it could be in a different area , perhaps near Youngstown and Akron ?

They are running targeted Radio and TV spots , depending on who got intimidated by B.O.’s “truth squad” legal goons .

Being a Lifemember might explain why they are not soliciting you .
Many people complain about the immense amount of NRA mailouts they recieve , but the NRA has to raise funds somehow , so it doesn’t bother me at all .


15 posted on 10/14/2008 9:01:42 AM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE VOLUNTEER AT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN OFFICE . THEY NEED YOUR HELP NOW !)
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To: mosaicwolf

Somewhere I read that in the phrase “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” (Declaration, not Constitution), the “pursuit of happiness” part originally said something about a right to private property. It was evidently removed because northern representatives at the time were afraid that that would be interpreted as a right to another type of (then) private property, that is, slaves.


16 posted on 10/14/2008 9:22:20 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: Yo-Yo

Only they see a problem with Communistic firearms laws.


17 posted on 10/14/2008 4:57:29 PM PDT by wastedyears (Now sadly living in the DPRNYC [Brooklyn])
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To: Centurion2000
You bet...buy it now, and if you need any gunsmithing, get it done now.

I'd love to be able to buy another 5,000 rounds of various ammo, but the funds just aren't there. Hope I have enough.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

18 posted on 10/15/2008 7:09:30 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: wku man
You bet...buy it now, and if you need any gunsmithing, get it done now.

Well said.

I have to admit I wonder how Obama (if the POS becomes President) would react to an NRA Million Rifleman March in DC.

19 posted on 10/15/2008 7:31:50 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: Centurion2000
Wow...I'm imagining something akin to the pension protestors during the Depression. Tanks, armored vehicles, CS gas, live ammo, etc.

Do you think there are a million riflemen with the guts to march on DC? I get the sinking feeling that most would simply turn 'em in if they were ordered to by Obamanation. God, I hope I'm wrong!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

20 posted on 10/15/2008 7:39:14 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: wku man

Pretty sure the Bonus Marchers were only about 30K. Million riflemen showing up for a peaceful march? DC would FREAK.


21 posted on 10/15/2008 7:44:23 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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