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ACORN IS PROFILING VOTERS; profiling is a crime (time for law enforcment to step in)
10/14/08

Posted on 10/14/2008 8:08:19 AM PDT by Liz

We need to determine if ACORN in "red-lining" areas in which they conduct mass voter-registrations----and whether ACORN is excluding areas, thereby profiling voters which they deem unsuitable for mass canvassing.

ACORN IS PROFILING VOTERS; profiling is a crime. One FReeper reported in realtime: he was approached multiple times by ACORN canvassers ......but they lost interest when the FReeper said he was a Republican.

That means ACORN gave orders to "profile" voters. ACORN deemed individuals who voted a certain way were not suitable to sign-up and register as new voters. ACORN'S refusal to register a person to vote based on the person's political party could be adjudged an infringement on the person's civil rights.

We need to determine if ACORN in "red-lining" areas in which they conduct mass voter-registrations----and whether ACORN is excluding areas, thereby profiling voters which they deem unsuitable for mass canvassing.

Profiling is considered a serious crime. The law in many states creates a method for registering complaints of "profiling," and requires individual states to investigate each complaint filed.

ACTION NEEDED File a complaint regarding ACORN'S profiling potential voters.

(1) Contact DOJ----EMAIL askDOJ@USDOJ.gov

(2) Contact the FBI TIP SITE: https://tips.fbi.gov/

(3) Contact the election committee in your state.

(4) Contact your state's Secretary of State.

If an ACORN worker refuses to register you to vote ---get (A) the worker's name, (B) the worker's ID, (C) place of ACORN worker's employment, and, (D) ACORN worker's immediate supervisor. Report the ACORN worker, local agency, and supervisor's name to the FBI, the DOJ, your state's election committee, and the Secy of State in which you live.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; acorn; acornfraud; barackofrauda; democratparty; democrats; electionpresident; elections; fraud; fraudulentobama; massivevotefraud; nobama08; obama; shadowparty; voterfraud; voterregistration
ACORN profiling might also extend to its mortgage activities. Read on.

SPREADING THE VIRUS; HOW ACORN & ITS DEM ALLIES BUILT THE MORTGAGE DISASTER
(sap-happy do-gooder liberal decide getting a mortgage is civil right even if you don't qualify)

FR POSTED
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2104381/posts

EXCERPT By STANLEY KURTZ, NY POST----To discover the roots of to day's economic crisis, consider a tale from 1995. That March, House Speaker Newt Gingrich was scheduled to address a meeting of county commissioners at the Washington Hilton. But, first, some 500 protesters from the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) poured into the ballroom from both the kitchen and the main entrance. Hotel staffers who tried to block them were quickly overwhelmed by demonstrators chanting, "Nuke Newt!" and "We want Newt!"

Jamming the aisles, carrying bullhorns and taunting the assembled county commissioners, demonstrators swiftly took over the head table and commandeered the microphone, sending two members of Congress scurrying. The demonstrators' target, Gingrich, hadn't yet arrived - and his speech was cancelled. When the cancellation was announced, ACORN's foot soldiers cheered.

Editorial writers from Little Rock to Buffalo condemned ACORN's action as an affront to both civility and freedom of speech. Editorialists also pointed out that the "spending cuts" the protesters railed against were imaginary - Gingrich proposed merely to slow the growth in some welfare programs and turn control back to the states.

Yet ACORN had only just begun. Two days later, 50 to 100 of the same protesters hit their main target - a House Banking subcommittee considering changes to the Community Reinvestment Act, a law that allows groups like ACORN to force banks into making high-risk loans to low-credit customers. --SNIP--

LONG READ http://www.nypost.com/seven/10132008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/spreading_the_virus_133375.htm?page=0


Still pushing to protect junk mortgages at any cost: ACORN continues to march and rally to get Congress to support its radical agenda, as with this demonstration in Washington, DC, in March.

1 posted on 10/14/2008 8:08:19 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

hee hee hee- good one Liz!


2 posted on 10/14/2008 8:09:52 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Liz

>>>>Profiling is considered a serious crime.

Please post links to the statute(s).


3 posted on 10/14/2008 8:10:00 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: Liz

They would only approach me one time.


4 posted on 10/14/2008 8:11:53 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Liz

It’s not a crime, but acting in a partisan manner will eliminate their tax status and grant eligibility.

I would encourage STINGS — on video and -— where they have people identify themselves as Republicans and see if they refuse.

Even phone calls:

Caller: “Hi, I need help to register to vote, but am disabled. Will you help?”

A: Sure

Caller: “Does it matter that I am Republican? I can’t stand Obama. Will you still help?”

A: FU

Etc.

Get good tape and video. Set them up.


5 posted on 10/14/2008 8:14:34 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: angkor

It’s not a crime, but see my last post.


6 posted on 10/14/2008 8:15:01 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: Liz; freekitty; Clintonfatigued

I called Pelosi’s office in DC yesterday and got one of her brainwashed moron staffers on the telephone. I asked him what Pelosi was going to do about the voter fraud and all I got was evasive BS. Call Pelosi’s office and ask for one of the brainwashed morons and maybe you will get the same one. 202-225-3121

Pelosi’s office acted like they’ve never heard of ACORN and told me to call my local law enforcement if I know of any voter fraud. I told this moron that it’s all over TV. Again, he appeared clueless and said he couldn’t respond for the speaker. If he can’t respond for the Speaker, then I suggest he leave his job that taxpayers are paying for. Welcome to the Liberal asylum that used to be called the USA!


7 posted on 10/14/2008 8:15:15 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Mr. K

Glad you liked it. It’s called “hoisting them on their own petard.”


8 posted on 10/14/2008 8:18:44 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
EXCELLENT.

I would encourage STINGS — on video and -— where they have people identify themselves as Republicans and see if they refuse.

Even phone calls: Caller: “Hi, I need help to register to vote, but am disabled. Will you help?” A: Sure Caller: “Does it matter that I am Republican? I can’t stand Obama. Will you still help?” A: FU Etc.

Get good tape and video. Set them up.

9 posted on 10/14/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Liz

It would make for good local news.

Reporters are liberal, but they are lazy first.

Hand them a good news story with video, and they can’t resist.

Short, sweet.


10 posted on 10/14/2008 8:24:33 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: MeanWestTexan; angkor

In many states submitting falsified documents to a govt agency is a felony.

Falsifying official documents incurs felony charges for first-degree tampering with public records, first-degree offering of a false instrument for filing, fourth-degree grand larceny, and first-degree falsifying of official records.


11 posted on 10/14/2008 8:26:27 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Liz

Sure, the “Mikey Mouse” registrations are a crime.

The “Republican profiling” you talk of, however, is not a crime.

What it is, is a violation of the 501(c)(3) non-profit status because it shows ACORN is a partisan organization. Probably more important.


12 posted on 10/14/2008 8:28:53 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: Liz

Didn’t the feds essentialy bankrupt the KKK out of existence by extracting multiple money damages by racketering convictions?


13 posted on 10/14/2008 8:29:06 AM PDT by AU72
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To: MeanWestTexan
MAYBE JOURNOS WILL CHECK THIS OUT:

DONATE TO ACORN---from their web site

Your Gift Makes Successful Homeownership Possible ACORN Housing is a nonprofit that helps low income families purchase and protect their homes. Please consider giving at our 'Sponsor' level of $50. ACORN Housing has partnered with Network for Good to securely process your online credit card donation via the Network for Good Donor Advised Fund. This transaction will appear on your credit card statement as "Network for Good".

DONATION FORM https://npo.networkforgood.org/Donate/Donate.aspx?npoSubscriptionId=4059

=========================================

MODUS OPERANDI L/E authorities need to determine whether ACORN colluded in multiple schemes, whether ACORN used ID theft in donation schemes for favored candidates. ACORN had at its disposal numerous names that could have been employed in various ID theft operations to fuether its political goals.

Moreover, ACORN may have solicited donors who are officers of publicly-held companies to manipulate publicly-reported earnings through a variety of devices designed to produce materially false and misleading financial results.

Authorities need to determine whether ACORN colluded with its donors---particularly donors who are officers of publicly-held companies-----in schemes that may have included (1) misusing corporate reserve accounts, (2) concealing losses, (3) inflating asset values, (4) improperly accounting for transactions, (5) deferring profits into reserve accounts, (6) improperly shifting capital funding to other projects to hide illegal payments to ACORN. ACORN donors may have fraudulently booked contributions as business expenses.

ACORN may have employed money-laundering schemes to evade the IRS, SEC, FEC and US banking laws. Classic money-laundering schemes work like this: ACORN might solicit a donor to write a check for say $150,000. ACORN would then deposit a percentage for itself, then illegally convert the remainder to another account----perhaps to a putative “consultant, administrative, or legal” account.

In the transaction, the donor’s money would be fraudulently converted, then redeposited offshore (in a friendly foreign bank), where the donor would have access to the funds out of sight of IRS, SEC, and US banking laws.

In another conversion scheme, ACORN might solicit donors to write checks for $50,000, then deposit the check into a subsidiary bank account labeled “legal or administration fees.” The bank would then illegally convert the monies and redeposit them into a campaign account (designated by ACORN) out of sight of the FEC.

Authorities need to determine whether ACORN and its corporate donors violated state and federal RICO statutes by participating in (1) securities fraud, (2) mail fraud (3) computer tampering (4)electronic fraud, (5) computer trespass, (6) theft, (7) accounting fraud, (8) co-opting donors into criminal acts, (9) failing to report wrongdoing (10) breach of fiduciary duty (11) receiving insider information, (12) filing false documents, (13) creating slush funds, (14) manipulating inventories, and, (15) improperly valuing assets.

14 posted on 10/14/2008 8:30:09 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: AU72
Didn’t the feds essentialy bankrupt the KKK out of existence by extracting multiple money damages by racketering convictions?

Heheh---n-i-c-e contribution to the threaad.

15 posted on 10/14/2008 8:34:17 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
"Republican profiling” is a violation of the 501(c)(3) non-profit status because it shows ACORN is a partisan organization.............Probably more important......

Yup.

16 posted on 10/14/2008 8:36:05 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Piquaboy
"They would only approach me one time."

Limping or crawling away trying to shake it off mumbling to themselves "...eeeyeoh, that's gonna leave a mark..."

17 posted on 10/14/2008 8:39:00 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Is ACORN a 501(c)(3)???

If so... then how are they receiving government money (4% of EVERY MORTGAGE IN THE USA goes to them as of Jully law signed by W)

And how can they take money FROM obama’s campaign? $800thousand!!!

Aren’t both not allowed for a 501c3?


18 posted on 10/14/2008 8:40:00 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Mr. K

no


19 posted on 10/14/2008 8:43:26 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: Mr. K

most groups have local chapters, etc, register under different tax structures. The ACORN Institute is not the same entity as ACORN. The ACORN Institute is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that does tax Federal funds and that is tax exempt.


20 posted on 10/14/2008 8:45:41 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: Liz
Profiling is considered a serious crime.

By whom? What law are you referring to?

21 posted on 10/14/2008 8:45:50 AM PDT by xjcsa (McWhatshisname-Palin 2008)
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To: Mr. K

Although ACORN’s projects run a wide gamut, the group claims as its purpose helping low- and middle-income Americans — through initiatives ranging from improving urban public schools, to providing counseling on how to avoid “predatory lending,” to increasing the availability of “affordable housing.” Most of these programs are conducted locally, by state-level ACORN organizations — which are often set up as 501(c)3 nonprofit entities distinct from the national ACORN umbrella, a 501(c)4 lobbying organization. Sounds benign enough — except that, according to Bob Huberty, executive vice president of the Capital Research Center, these tax-exempt 501(c)3s “have no reason for existence other than to get grants from the government and foundations.” They are, essentially, an ACORN front for asking Uncle Sam to subsidize political activity.

Ask ACORN does — and it definitely receives. Take, for example, the most recent tax information from one of ACORN’s subsidiary nonprofits: the ACORN Housing Corporation, Inc., based out of the organization’s national headquarters in New Orleans. For the tax year beginning July 1, 2002, and ending June 30, 2003, ACORN Housing Corp.’s 990 Form shows a total of $1,710,203 received in government grants (the year before, the total was $1,977,306).

The nominal purpose of those millions is to “provide low rent housing & loan counseling services to low income individuals.” But if the government is funding the actual, legitimate work of ACORN at the local 501(c)3 level, it means that the national lobbying organization can dedicate more of its unrestricted resources to electioneering. Furthermore, explains Craig Garthwaite, director of research at the Employment Policies Institute, “The funding is not only fungible in that if they receive money for X, they can spend more on Y.” He cites one particular example of money-rerouting malfeasance: the crooked dealings surrounding an AmeriCorps grant in 1996. According to an EPI study, when the ACORN Housing Corp. applied for the grant, they denied any connections to the main ACORN lobbying group (the grant is not for political advocacy). But the AmeriCorps inspector general discovered that “not only was AHC created by ACORN, engaged in numerous transactions with one another, and sharing staff and office space — but it utilized the AmeriCorps grant to increase ACORN membership, a violation of federal guidelines.” (ACORN charges membership dues, much as labor unions do; thus, by exploiting AmeriCorps funding to inflate its membership rolls, ACORN used government resources to bring in even more money — money with no restrictions on its political use.)


22 posted on 10/14/2008 8:47:20 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: Liz
In many states submitting falsified documents to a govt agency is a felony.

Falsifying official documents incurs felony charges for first-degree tampering with public records, first-degree offering of a false instrument for filing, fourth-degree grand larceny, and first-degree falsifying of official records.

What does any of that have to do with "profiling"?

23 posted on 10/14/2008 8:49:20 AM PDT by xjcsa (McWhatshisname-Palin 2008)
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To: Liz
Time For Law Enforcement To Step In

Well if they do they will be charged with Profiling!

24 posted on 10/14/2008 8:50:26 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Sounds right to me.


25 posted on 10/14/2008 9:19:52 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: Liz

I know (of a) cute blonde intelligent anchorbabe on Fox News in the a.m. who would just LOVE this information!!


26 posted on 10/14/2008 9:21:05 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (RINOs **BETRAY** us, since, if they ever DO take off the gloves vs. the Libs, they do so too late...)
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To: Liz

Get this stuff on video and then YouTube it!!


27 posted on 10/14/2008 9:22:00 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (RINOs **BETRAY** us, since, if they ever DO take off the gloves vs. the Libs, they do so too late...)
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To: Liz

BUMP


28 posted on 10/14/2008 9:27:45 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Liz
I watched a few minutes of a presser by an ACORN troll who said they ID’ed suspect registrations before turning them in but he said there were very few of these. He went on to say the numbers had been exaggerated by racist partisan Republicans and were a despicable attempt to invalidate legitimate black voters!
29 posted on 10/14/2008 9:30:11 AM PDT by dbacks (I would rather be Sarah Palin than Para-Sailin'!)
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To: Liz

Most of all they need to file that lawsuit NOW. Amend it later. Obama helpe dcreate this abomination, he should be included in it as well. At the very least held accountabout for that 800,000 $ he gave them.


30 posted on 10/14/2008 9:36:22 AM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We should call Pelosi’s office and ask when she is going to investigate herself for funneling millions of dollars to her husband through her PAC too! Also an investigation of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac and her fellow democrats. And we might want to throw in Mahoney’s hush money in florida while we are at it.

DEMOCRAT CULTURE OF CORRUPTION!!


31 posted on 10/14/2008 9:37:22 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Liz

I’m sure that the ACORN scumbags make sure that they do not register Republicans (or they may register a modest % of Republicans just so that they can continue the pretence that they are non-partisan). I wonder if someone can access statistics for how many Democrats they register vs. how many Republicans? They are a “non-profit” because they are supposed to be “non-partisan” (big joke), so if it can be proved that they work on behalf of the Democrats (which we all know, but it needs to be proved in a court of law or with the IRS, etc.) then it’s a big deal..... except that ‘Rat and RINO bureaucrats will try hard not to do anything about it.


32 posted on 10/14/2008 9:38:28 AM PDT by Enchante (America: has Obama told you about his "New Party" that sought to spread SOCIALISM??)
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To: Liz

The Feds should shut down ACORN and invalidate all registrations done by them this year - and put out a loud public notice:
“If you registered to vote through an ACORN worker, your registration is invalid. You must go to your local precinct and register - NOW.”

yeah, right. The riot minions would be unleashed

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Obama.Blacks.Quiet.2.337535.html


33 posted on 10/14/2008 9:44:00 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Liz
The Las Vegas Sun is reporting that several Acorn people were convicted of identity theft in the past. It makes one wonder if that was a requirement to be on their curriculum vitae during the job search.
34 posted on 10/14/2008 9:46:37 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (48, one in the box and one in the bush.)
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To: HawaiianGecko; Calpernia
The Las Vegas Sun is reporting that several Acorn people were convicted of identity theft in the past.

Thanks for the heads-up----this is a VERY crucial info.

FReeper calpernia turned us on to ID theft in the campaign contribution sector----candidates using fake donor names to get around FEC laws.

ID theft is also a factor in the toxic mortgages ACORN originated which are poisoning the US economy.

ACORN's activities gives it access to many names that could be used in these scams.

Obama's campaign donors should be examined very closely.

35 posted on 10/14/2008 10:23:01 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Liz

THIS may be related

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2105344/posts?page=11#11

Blackwell was an IBM IT person that went into personal consulting.

I can’t seem to find a text link so my recall may be from when we had Andy Martin to our dinner.

I *believe* Blackwell worked on Project Vote with Obama.


36 posted on 10/14/2008 10:31:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: dbacks; Calpernia
..... a presser by an ACORN troll said they ID’ed suspect registrations before turning them in but he said there were very few of these. He went on to say the numbers had been exaggerated by racist partisan Republicans and were a despicable attempt to invalidate legitimate black voters......

Saw it-----that nitwit should be nailed for giving out false and misleading information. Countless news reports indicate MASSIVE fraud.

FR POSTED-----7-YR-OLD GETS AN ACORN VOTE; CONN. JOB TO BOOST OBAMA
By GINGER ADAMS OTIS and SUSAN EDELMAN in New York and MELISSA KLEIN in Bridgeport, Conn.

EXCERPT O'jahnae Smith is ready and registered to vote this November. There's only one problem: She's 7 years old. The Connecticut girl is 11 years too young - and nobody in her family knows how she ended up on a voter registration form submitted by ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Jerome Smith O'jahnae's teenage brother said, "She's too young to vote." But that didn't stop someone from forging the child's signature on a voter registration card and giving her a fake birth date that upped her age to 27. The family told The Post a drug-addicted relative may have given the bogus card to ACORN.

Voter registration fraud complaints like these continue to mount for the group, already under scrutiny in 11 states where hundreds, if not thousands, of new registrations are being questioned. ACORN volunteers have been found to register dead people and even put members of the Dallas Cowboys on Nevada lists. The community organizing group has a long history of flooding low- and middle-income neighborhoods in election years with temporary workers instructed to register 20 to 25 voters per day - or risk getting fired. Most states prohibit paying per signature, but ACORN workers earning $8 to $9 an hour still have to hit their quotas. And many need the money - including some ex-cons in work-release programs.

ACORN's controversial tactics have fueled John McCain's criticism of Barack Obama, whose campaign paid an ACORN spinoff - Community Services Inc. - about $800,000 to knock on doors and urge people to vote for Obama in four key primary states: Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Texas. In his pre-politics days, Obama ran the Illinois chapter of Project Vote in 1992, before it hooked up with ACORN.

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis on Friday called for a freeze on taxpayer dollars to ACORN until recent allegations have been investigated.

Meanwhile, state authorities in New Mexico, Indiana, Missouri, Connecticut, Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Nevada have launched probes of bogus voter registration forms filed by ACORN. Roberta Casteel, a nurse, is one of several dozen Nevada voters caught in the web of fake ACORN registrations. Casteel, a registered voter since 1991, was shocked to receive a letter rejecting a voter application she didn't know she'd made. Authorities said they'd received two voter applications in her name: one as a Democrat and one as an independent. Both cards had her address, date of birth and Social Security number, and were submitted by ACORN workers. Neither signature matched her original one on file. A former ACORN worker in Pennsylvania has already been charged with 17 counts of identity theft and forgery. Other states are sifting through cartons of suspicious forms.

SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/seven/10122008/news/politics/7_yr__old_gets_an_acorn_vote_133207.htm

37 posted on 10/14/2008 10:36:05 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Danae
......file that lawsuit NOW. Amend it later. Obama helped create this abomination, and should be held accountable for that $800,000 he gave them.......

Right---the purpose of this thread is to raise as many issues as possible....we'll concentrate on the "details" later.

38 posted on 10/14/2008 10:43:12 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: MeanWestTexan; Mr. K; Enchante; Danae; dbacks; HawaiianGecko
It's gotten so bad---Obama is denying his ACORN association. Interesting factoid here:

Further confusing the length and depth of the Obama-ACORN relationship was the discovery by conservative bloggers of an error-riddled story in the journal Social Policy featuring not only a 2004 photograph of Obama and ACORN members but an essay called “Case Study: Chicago- The Barack Obama Campaign” written Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN Leader. "Obama started building the base years before,” Foulkes wrote in her 2004 essay. “For instance, ACORN noticed him when he was organizing on the far south side of Chicago............

FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2105344/posts?page=13

39 posted on 10/14/2008 11:03:34 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

4 women politicians out in CA are the pitts. Barbara Boxer, Diane Finestein, Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters.


40 posted on 10/14/2008 12:42:02 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Liz

Might want to be careful taping a phone conversation as it may be illegal in some states unless you have their consent.


41 posted on 10/14/2008 12:45:55 PM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Shave off the whiskers of unnecessary thought." Occams Razor)
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To: Liz

This deserves a major bump!


42 posted on 10/14/2008 12:47:07 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: MeanWestTexan

Good point!


43 posted on 10/14/2008 12:48:10 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: freekitty

I agree.


44 posted on 10/14/2008 12:51:29 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Busywhiskers

Mmmmm......will pass the word.


45 posted on 10/14/2008 12:54:22 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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