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Internal Obama Poll Reports He Is Up By 2 In Pennsylvania
Steve Corbett Show ^ | 10/14/08

Posted on 10/14/2008 2:58:15 PM PDT by Born Conservative

Edited on 10/14/2008 5:44:49 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Steve Corbett, a radio talk show host in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, received a copy of an internal email sent by Grant Olan who heads the Wilkes-Barre headquarters of the Obama campaign. The email went to 627 Obama campaign volunteers in the Wilkes-Barre Scranton region, saying that Obama Headquarters reported an internal poll which shows that Obama is only 2 points up in Pennsylvania.

Sean Smith, who is heading Obama's Pennsylvania campaign, was interviewed by Steve Corbett via phone at 5:35 today to discuss this. He said that Grant "went rogue", and aknowledged that Grant was "reprimanded" for this. Sean would not deny that the internal poll showed this, and his words were carefully chosen.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; corbett; electionpresident; grantolan; internalpoll; obama; pa2008; seansmith; swingstates; talkradio; tossups
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Take it for what it's worth. This is a synopsis of what I heard on the radio interview a short while ago. Steve Corbett seems to be an honest journalist; hopefully they will post the interview on their website.
1 posted on 10/14/2008 2:58:15 PM PDT by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative

There is a reason why McCain and Palin are spending so much time in PA and reasons why they are spending time and money in Maine and New Hampshire, too. On the flip side, there may be good reasons why they’ve abandoned Michigan that we are not aware of.


2 posted on 10/14/2008 3:00:21 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Born Conservative

Don’t want to get their base comfy.....


3 posted on 10/14/2008 3:00:32 PM PDT by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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To: Born Conservative

Hmmm. Wonder what their Florida and Ohio “internal polls” show. This is the best thing I’ve heard all freakin day!
AND, I wonder if we’ll hear about this on the news tonight. Uh, prolly not.


4 posted on 10/14/2008 3:00:42 PM PDT by SaintDismas (Starting to regret the handle I chose for this forum)
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To: Born Conservative

wow!!!!!

makes a ton of sense to me...

there are so many forces at play here people..dont believe the media polls!!!!!


5 posted on 10/14/2008 3:00:44 PM PDT by housedeep
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To: Chet 99

FYI FWIW


6 posted on 10/14/2008 3:01:28 PM PDT by eureka! (Hey mushy middle: Who is Barrack 0bama? Wait until you learn the answer. It's not pretty.)
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To: Born Conservative

Up 2 still makes him a winner in PA...internal polls are generally better than external....


7 posted on 10/14/2008 3:01:39 PM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: Born Conservative

That could have been a fake poll result sent to make them work harder...


8 posted on 10/14/2008 3:01:46 PM PDT by bahblahbah (http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/)
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To: Born Conservative

It is likely that the polls in states and nation-wide have been tampered with by the liberals.

This is so exciting! If we have any chance at winning PA.... that would be a miracle!


9 posted on 10/14/2008 3:01:52 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (Let the sound of intercession meet Your ears......)
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To: Born Conservative

I call BS on this.


10 posted on 10/14/2008 3:02:05 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!)
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To: Born Conservative; Cedric; Chet 99

bump!


11 posted on 10/14/2008 3:02:07 PM PDT by housedeep
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To: Born Conservative; All

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12 posted on 10/14/2008 3:02:37 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Don't Forget to check out Bea Arthur in the "Menopause Monologues"  )
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To: Born Conservative

I think some of those Penn residents heard and understood when Biden said “We do not support clean coal”. Me thinks Penn will go red.


13 posted on 10/14/2008 3:02:45 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: Born Conservative

If I were running....I’m sure my staff would have my internal polls showing a lead as well...


14 posted on 10/14/2008 3:02:52 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Born Conservative

it would make sense as why would obama keep going back there and sending people on his behalf and why would McCain still be spending money and spending time there

I bet the internal polls are a lot different than the bias medias are

I spoke with someone today who said that NH is very much game for McCAIN


15 posted on 10/14/2008 3:03:28 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Born Conservative

That would be great news...but you don’t think it might be a feint?

Before D-Day the allies put an already dead body in the sea and gave him a fake identity and fake papers indicating a different time and place for D-Day...it was a ruse...

I do think this seems right about where the election is in PA...given how much time that McCain and Palin seem to be spending there...


16 posted on 10/14/2008 3:03:35 PM PDT by Longstreet63 (Che Guevara is a genocidal hero of the ignorant...)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Michigan is, and always was, a lost cause-—like NJ. When you have a state so in the crapper that keeps electing a Dem governor, don’t waste your money. I think McCain should pull out of NM, too. The race is NV, CO, OH, VA, and FL. PA would be a killer, and if the Messiah is only leading by two, I think he’s cooked.


17 posted on 10/14/2008 3:03:49 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Born Conservative

Being a Pennsylvanian this disgusts me that citizens of my State would hate America so much as to inflict this dangerous socialist on us all.


18 posted on 10/14/2008 3:04:16 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Vote FOR AMERICA . Vote McCain / Palin)
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To: Born Conservative
Grant "went rogue"

As in spy. *snicker*

19 posted on 10/14/2008 3:04:37 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Clintonfatigued; Perdogg; 1035rep; LS

Whoa!!


20 posted on 10/14/2008 3:05:18 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: jrooney

We have to tell the voters about the coal issue more blatantly, particularly in the Pittsburgh market.


21 posted on 10/14/2008 3:05:46 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: bahblahbah

Like McCain doesn’t have competent pollsters?


22 posted on 10/14/2008 3:05:47 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: HappyinAZ

Thats without bradley, if he is up two in internal polling odumbo is history


23 posted on 10/14/2008 3:05:53 PM PDT by italianquaker (I heard Gallup just polled and kerry really did win)
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To: Born Conservative

This would explain the heavy campaigning by McCain-Palin in PA!

We are going to win PA!!!


24 posted on 10/14/2008 3:06:05 PM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK, OBAMA IS JUST CREEPY!)
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To: HappyinAZ

Up 2% now, three weeks before election day is a very weak position especially since the polls will tighten before then.


25 posted on 10/14/2008 3:06:06 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: wk4bush2004
Look at where the candidates are campaigning and look at the crowds each draw , don't look at the media invented polls.

and when we get a sneak peak at an internal from either side , trust it more than any media invented poll.

26 posted on 10/14/2008 3:06:46 PM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: housedeep
"there are so many forces at play here people..dont believe the media polls!!!!!"

I don't believe ANY of these polls that are weighted to reflect ACORN bogus registrations 73 false to 1 good. Sounds to me like McCain is up 10 nationwide on 11/4. Sorry.
27 posted on 10/14/2008 3:07:31 PM PDT by DRey
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To: wequalswinner

What it shows me is what a lot of people have been saying for months. This election is going right down to the wire. All of these gloom and doom polls and electoral college landslides for Barry have a purpose ... to make the conservative base stay home because it’s a “lost cause.” It’s not. McCain-Palin can still win. The MSM has been in the tank for quite some time. That’s why they are not to be trusted. If they say Barry is up 5 or 6 in one state, it’s probably tied. One poll had Barry up 8 in West Virginia. NO WAY!!! Absolutely, NO WAY!!! These polls are complete BS.


28 posted on 10/14/2008 3:07:33 PM PDT by chippewaman
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To: Born Conservative

McCain supporters are foolish to believe these media polls.

I know there is some risk of that but they really should look at polling in previous elections.

This is a concerted effort at vote suppression by the Media.

The pollsters are under huge pressure to jack up these polls for the ONe.


29 posted on 10/14/2008 3:07:52 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Red Steel
Noticed that, too. I was a bit worried what Grant's ‘discipline’ might have entailed. Obama Presidency? Police State, here we come!
30 posted on 10/14/2008 3:08:25 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: bahblahbah
That could have been a fake poll result sent to make them work harder...

Why would they need to work harder if they were up 10 pts. like the media polls show?

31 posted on 10/14/2008 3:08:34 PM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK, OBAMA IS JUST CREEPY!)
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To: RED SOUTH

“Look at where the candidates are campaigning and look at the crowds each draw , don’t look at the media invented polls.

and when we get a sneak peak at an internal from either side , trust it more than any media invented poll.”

Good advice! Thanks!


32 posted on 10/14/2008 3:09:31 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (Let the sound of intercession meet Your ears......)
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To: lonestar67

The only thing that bugs me about the poll suppression theory is that McCain’s campaign acknowledges he’s down 6 nationwide (as of yesterday). I think it’s all about the Dem weightings based on bogus ACORN registrations. Just wonder if McCain camp uses same weightings as other polling outlets?


33 posted on 10/14/2008 3:09:51 PM PDT by DRey
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To: HamiltonJay

ping!

Thought you would take great interest in this.


34 posted on 10/14/2008 3:09:59 PM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK, OBAMA IS JUST CREEPY!)
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To: jrooney

Thats before the ads about odumbos talk with the plumber. Odumbo cannot pull away and I have not seen a McCain ad here in so fl in weeks


35 posted on 10/14/2008 3:10:51 PM PDT by italianquaker (I heard Gallup just polled and kerry really did win)
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To: Born Conservative

That’s more like it. It explains why both campaigns have been pushing hard lately in PA.


36 posted on 10/14/2008 3:11:17 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya (You go girl!)
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To: manc

“I spoke with someone today who said that NH is very much game for McCAIN”

Please share.


37 posted on 10/14/2008 3:12:02 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Born Conservative
If accurate, it means that with big time turn out on our side, and a heavy chunk of that RNC $160 million, we stand a very very good chance of turning PA Red.

What also lends credence to this is Obama’s focus on campaigning in Philly, in which should be a lock for him.

38 posted on 10/14/2008 3:15:27 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: DRey
Maybe, just maybe, the McCain camp figures it is better just to go along with the media narrative and play the underdog. People do love comebacks after all.
39 posted on 10/14/2008 3:15:39 PM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK, OBAMA IS JUST CREEPY!)
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To: Norman Bates

You can tell by looking at Mac’s campaign calander that they think they have a good shot at taking PA & NH.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Calendar/


40 posted on 10/14/2008 3:17:22 PM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK, OBAMA IS JUST CREEPY!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“Being a Pennsylvanian this disgusts me that citizens of my State would hate America so much as to inflict this dangerous socialist on us all.”

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Which is exactly how the residents of Massachusetts SHOULD feel in enabling the national infestation of the ghastly trifecta of:

Kennedy/Kerry/Frank


41 posted on 10/14/2008 3:20:58 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: italianquaker

Yes that spread the wealth comment to the plumber should have dragged him down. McCain and Palin have to play it up. I tend to think back in the 1980s before journalism died that even some mainstream media outlets would have made an issue of that.

This 2 point internal is very encouraging if it is correct but I find it a little hard to believe that info got out. Did someone leak it? Why would they send what sounds like a private email to a radio guy?


42 posted on 10/14/2008 3:21:07 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: HappyinAZ

Is it ever possible for Our Team to be optimistic? ABC 6 is just saying we are behind in the high double digits (Vernon ODEM, Star Reporter)! That we now know their own internals show a dead heat!! YES!!! A DEAD HEAT!! and the RATS are factoring in their PHILLY FRAUD!!

You may want to stick your head in the mud! But this is FANTASTIC NEWS for US PENNSY RED BLOODS that LOVE Our RELIGION, GUNS, FAMILY, AND OUR COUNTRY!
AND WE HATE AND DETEST FRAUDS AND LIARS LIKE OBAMA!!


43 posted on 10/14/2008 3:22:29 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: KansasGirl

Maybe Republicans perform better under pressure? I tend to believe that, in general. Maybe that’s why.


44 posted on 10/14/2008 3:23:05 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

Having been both a successful candidate and a campaign manager of a few local & regional races here in Minnesota, I can attest to the fact that you never telegraph negative internal polling numbers to the press. I seriously doubt McCain’s people would be so free with discussing being down 6 points if this was actually the case. So either McCain’s folks have indeed thrown in the towel or else this is something else. I believe this is about whose base is fired up more. Beyond the group of Obambi cult worshipers, there are a lot of Dem-leaning folks who are ambivalent about the election but will vote if it seems like their vote will swing things. If those people believe their guy is going to win by such huge numbers it doesn’t matter - there’s a chance they don’t show up to vote at all. Looking at the numbers Palin is pulling in alone, I’m inclined to think those on the Right (and those who aren’t keen on USA going socialist) are far more scared, mad and motivated than their counterparts.


45 posted on 10/14/2008 3:23:10 PM PDT by Dan C
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To: bahblahbah
That could have been a fake poll result sent to make them work harder...

You very well could be right. Or you could be wrong. I'm looking at it this way: many of the polls are slanted towards Obama, the media is in the tank for Obama, yet Palin drew a lot more at her rally in Scranton today (a working day) than did the "big guns" rally in the same venue this past Sunday (when many had the day off) which included Biden, Hillary, and Bill. Northeast PA is Hillary country, and there are MANY Dems saying they will vote McCain. We'll know on Nov. 4.

46 posted on 10/14/2008 3:23:11 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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To: cmsgop

I guess this post validates yours. I sure hope so!


47 posted on 10/14/2008 3:24:33 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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To: Born Conservative; GOP_Lady; LS; perfect_rovian_storm; Chet 99; impeachedrapist; Norman Bates; ...

I believe it. It isn’t hard to figure out. You read the poll internals for all these polls showing Obama with huge leads, you note the usual ridiculous oversample of Democrats, you re-adjust the numbers based on the state’s actual demographics and voting history, rinse and repeat as needed. And besides, I personally had PA in a dead heat.

Those of us who actually know how to read and dissect the polls are not one bit surprised by this. It also helps greatly to pay attention to where both sides actually spend their time compaigning. If you have been paying attention, you already know that both sides have recently spent a great deal of time in Pennsylvania.


48 posted on 10/14/2008 3:24:53 PM PDT by kesg
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To: LS

If this is true it shows Dem internal polling, possibly McCain’s as well, does not assume such large Dem weighted models. 2004 was supposed to be a big year for Dems, reality, 37% Repub and 37% Dem, in 2006 the Dems had a 2 advantage. I don’t buy these grossly weighted samples that are being pushed. FYI, IBD/TIPP will be posting their newest tracking poll tomorrow. Go Mac!!!


49 posted on 10/14/2008 3:25:38 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some M,ore)
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To: Longstreet63

It very well COULD be a feint, but then again, there is evidence that it may not be.


50 posted on 10/14/2008 3:25:43 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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