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LOVE THAT RENT CONTROL
Townhall.com ^ | 14 October 2008 | Andrew Roman

Posted on 10/14/2008 6:22:13 PM PDT by andrew roman

Rent control, anyone?

A resident of Brooklyn, New York is facing eviction. It’s a fairly common, nondescript occurrence in a city of eight million residents. This particular resident, however - sixty-six year old Ella Taliercio - has been attracting some attention. She has been living in her place of residence - in a neighborhood called Park Slope - for half-a-century. She currently pays $147.08 a month – a rate that has remained steady for two decades or better – in a neighborhood where $2000-a-month rents for two-bedroom apartments are not unusual. (The rent was $33 a month when she first moved in, back in 1958).

According to the article, published in the New York Daily News:

The 66-year-old faces eviction because the Berkeley Carroll School - which owns Taliercio’s rent-controlled home - wants to renovate her building as part of a multimillion-dollar classroom expansion … Rent-controlled tenants are exempt from eviction unless the landlord is a nonprofit organization, like Berkeley Carroll.

Two decades ago, Taliercio was offered $50,000 to leave. She refused.

Two years ago, she was offered $20,000 to leave. She refused.

Now, she faces getting the boot after fifty years.

It is, indeed, an emotionally complex situation. Spending an entire lifetime (or close to it) in one place is something most Americans don’t experience. There is a Rockwellian splendidness in such longevity – a kind of storybook quality – that harkens to a different period, when mobility wasn’t so normal.

Taliercio says, “Besides the apartment holding all the memories, my whole life has been here. It's made a big turnaround. I remember the race riots - people left, but I stayed.”

Without question, the pain of vacating her home of fifty years - one that harbors so many of the memories that comprise her life - will be very real. Her sadness will be profound. Anyone with a heart will sympathize. However, significant policy decisions that affect a good number of people cannot be taken through a filter of micro-level emotion. While I genuinely feel for Ms. Taliercio on a personal level – and I mean that most sincerely – there are times when progress benefiting "the many" cannot be stifled to accommodate "the few" – or in this case, the one - especially when more-than-fair compensation has been offered.

Besides, it isn’t as if the Berkeley Carrol School is pulling this decision out of their hat and giving Ms. Taliercio thirty days to get out of their building – which, incidentally, every other resident of the building has already done. She is the only tenant remaining in the building. This has been ongoing for decades.

Did she reasonably expect to pay such a miniscule amount of rent forever? Will her memories be less poignant or significant if she leaves? Certainly she must have realized that she was living beyond her means for the better part of two decades, no?

The reality of life is that micro-level compassion cannot be an adequate barometer when handling macro-level issues. Nothing would ever get accomplished if it were.

I know to many of you I’ve probably spiked into the red on the “cold hearted bastard” meter, and I genuinely don’t mean to be ... but if Ms. Taliercio should live to be one-hundred years old – and I only wish her a long, prosperous and healthy life – is it fair for the rightful and legal owners of the building to wait until then before they are allowed to do what they want with their property?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: brooklyn; compassion; fiftyyears; rentcontrol

1 posted on 10/14/2008 6:22:14 PM PDT by andrew roman
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To: andrew roman

i knew people in college who had relatives that passed rent controlled nyc apartments among each other.


2 posted on 10/14/2008 6:24:44 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: andrew roman
“there are times when progress benefiting “the many” cannot be stifled to accommodate “the few”

While I think this lady should be happy with the deal she's had for all these years, this statement sounds like something right out of Obama’s playbook.

3 posted on 10/14/2008 6:27:32 PM PDT by TCats
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To: andrew roman

If Ms. Kelo had to leave her home, then this lady has to leave hers too.


4 posted on 10/14/2008 6:32:53 PM PDT by poindexter
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To: TCats
How so? This woman was offered $50,000 at one point to vacate. By 1980s financial standards, that was more than fair. There is nothing being taken away from her that belongs to her - like taxes are taken from the rich under an Obama plan. The building belongs to someone else, and this ONE woman, who has absolutely no owndership of the building, is being treated as if she does. My point was - and perhaps I was a bit too vague about it - is that the building RIGHTFULLY OWNED by someone else - is not being used to benefit a whole lot ofm people - employees, students, teachers - because one selfish woman feels she is entitled to live where she does. Unless I am being completely off the mark here, that is precisely the opposite of the point you offered. Thanks for the comment! Andrew Roman Brooklyn, NY
5 posted on 10/14/2008 6:33:29 PM PDT by andrew roman
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To: TCats

It gauls me to be living next store to these a**holes in the exact same apartment paying $2,400 a month and a $7,200 broker’s fee plus first and last month security. In other words, she is paying $148/mo. and I had to pay $12,000 just to move into the building next door?

Rent control sucks and she probably got the apartment by getting hooked up by some family member or insider. I hate it and it makes the rest of us suffer. Throw her a** out in the street. For once in my life I’d like to be the black woman getting hooked up instead of the white guy (racist) who just pays and pays and pays and pays and pays...


6 posted on 10/14/2008 6:33:56 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: TCats

It gauls me to be living next store to these a**holes in the exact same apartment paying $2,400 a month and a $7,200 broker’s fee plus first and last month security. In other words, she is paying $148/mo. and I had to pay $12,000 just to move into the building next door?

Rent control sucks and she probably got the apartment by getting hooked up by some family member or insider. I hate it and it makes the rest of us suffer. Throw her a** out in the street. For once in my life I’d like to be the black woman getting hooked up instead of the white guy (racist) who just pays and pays and pays and pays and pays...


7 posted on 10/14/2008 6:34:13 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: andrew roman
let that tub-o-guts Rangle cough up one of his THREE!!!
8 posted on 10/14/2008 6:39:01 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - McCain/Palin'08 = http://www.johnmccain.com/)
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To: andrew roman
And your point is? I suggest you read my post carefully before posting. I absolutely decry and deplore rent control despite your erroneous jump.

Go take a cold shower. You are completely off the mark, as you suggest you might be. Jeeesh.

9 posted on 10/14/2008 6:40:20 PM PDT by TCats
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To: All
Or something out of 'Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan' 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one'?

Or 'Star Trek III: The Search for Spock' 'Because the needs of the one... outweigh the needs of the many'.

Someone will appreciate those quotes, but the point in both movies was that they were voluntary choices made based on free will, not orders given by The One.

10 posted on 10/14/2008 6:40:47 PM PDT by MathDoc (Obama: "end the war" ... or McCain/Palin: "win the war" ... easy choice)
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To: TCats

Relax. I meant no harm. I simply misunderstood you. I thought you were referring to my position. Indeed, I misinterpreted what you said. Forgive me. I meant no disrespect at all.

I was wrong.

:)

Andrew Roman
Brooklyn, NY


11 posted on 10/14/2008 6:42:22 PM PDT by andrew roman
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To: Chode
"let that tub-o-guts Rangle cough up one of his THREE!!!"

You said it!!!!!!!!

12 posted on 10/14/2008 6:44:13 PM PDT by mia
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To: TCats
---------is it fair for the rightful and legal owners of the building to wait until then before they are allowed to do what they want with their property?--

--do you disagree with this?

13 posted on 10/14/2008 6:44:31 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: andrew roman
Thx. No problem. Perhaps I’m just on a little of a hair trigger what with some on these threads.

Before Bush revealed himself to be what he is it used to be ‘Bush Bots’ that would descend like a horde if something was ‘Out of place’. LOL.

14 posted on 10/14/2008 6:46:18 PM PDT by TCats
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To: TCats

I understand completely. I feel a bit of that “hair trigger,” as well - particularly in the past week or so.

“Bush Bots” ... LOL!

Andrew Roman
Brooklyn, NY


15 posted on 10/14/2008 6:48:49 PM PDT by andrew roman
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To: TCats

Actually, I was thinking Spock from Star Trek....


16 posted on 10/14/2008 6:48:51 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: rellimpank
Yes, if you mean do I respect the rights of property owners. Why do you ask.

You are so ready to jump. I said the lady ought to be pleased she was able to play the scam of rent control for all of these years and should simply leave. The real point of my post was the applicability of the statement that the needs of the many should outweigh the rights of the few. Granted it is a reversal of what was meant and that was the irony of the statement.

17 posted on 10/14/2008 6:51:09 PM PDT by TCats
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To: TCats

—delighted that we are on the same page—I missed the irony.


18 posted on 10/14/2008 6:55:34 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: andrew roman

Hey Andrew...

My grandmother owns a little house, about 3 blocks from mine,

She has owned it 50 years, and lives there.

Her annual property taxes exceed what she paid for the house, when she bought the house.

Where is her rent control?


19 posted on 10/14/2008 6:57:36 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: andrew roman

call me a RINO on this one. She has not rented or swapped her apartment for a profit, she has only paid her rent done what the law has allowed. Tell the school to find her another apartment at the same price in the same area. 50 years in the same place, I think you have to let her stay.


20 posted on 10/14/2008 7:05:59 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: andrew roman

THis episode speaks to the folly of rent control. This woman has been paying next to nothing for rent in a $2000+ neighborhood. The free ride for her has been graciously extended and it is time for her and the idea of rent control to fade into the sunset. Good luck Ms Talerico, hope that you saved your rubles over the last 20+ years. You’re going to need them.


21 posted on 10/14/2008 7:09:55 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (I will not vote for Obama not because he is black, but because he is RED)
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To: andrew roman

“Ella Taliercio” - sounds like the lady is ethnically Italian. Oh my! They tend not to like to move since they put down deep, deep roots. Remeber all those people dying in their homes when Mt. Vesuvius erupted? Since I have Italian relatives, let me speculate on this a bit.

She’s lived there since she was 16-years old. It may be the only home she has ever had and now, at age 66, she is being (in her mind) cruelly forced out. Offering her money is no good! It will not replace the comfort of home, all the memories of home. She is not motivated by money. She is emotionally attached to this place!

So, her relatives must be pressed into action and persuade her that there are better situations “out there”. When emotions are involved one must replace old, comforting emotions with other emotions, ones that elicit equal comfort but promise greater satisfaction. Trying to physically force her out will lead to hysterically operatic displays of emotion hinging on black comedy!

No relatives, you say? Want to show yourself as a compassionate and caring person? WOW! Is this ever the spendid opportunity to help someone.

Well, Andrew, here is your chance to be a gentleman and make news. I can’t do it. Hell! I live in Washington state.


22 posted on 10/14/2008 7:17:52 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: WellyP

At her age, I’m surprised there hasn’t been a family member to take her in. Where are her kids / nieces / nephews? Or why not an old folks home, given her age?


23 posted on 10/14/2008 7:30:47 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: SatinDoll

I enjoyed your post very much.

I’m not sure where to begin, but I will try to touch on all the points I can.

Respectfully, New York Italians are in no way averse to moving. Looking at Brooklyn as a perfect example - a large, sizeable portion of the Italian population has moved away - and not just the “young ones.” In neighborhoods like Bensonhurst, for example, a good portion of the Italian population, including old timers, have moved away - many to Staten Island, for example. Many moved from homes and apartments they lived in for years for a variety of reasons - changing neighborhoods, rising rents, etc ... I appreciate your Mt. Vesuvius example, but it is a bit of a stretch, I would think, to suggest that the people who died there refused to escape the raging volcano - assuming they had the chance - because of their Italian lineage.

Being motivated by money isn’t the issue - but since you’ve brought it up ... can one not make the case that SHE was motivated by money, not moving away? Who in their right mind would leave an otherwise nice neighborhood - a particularly EXPENSIVE neighborhood, mind you - when they can get away with UNDER $200 a month rent WITHOUT ownership propert taxes. If the apartment were NOT rent control, what are the chances she stays for fifty years? I am not saying - and never would deny - that she is attached emotionally to the place.

So what?

Thank goodness human beings don’t live their lives or make important decisions entirely on emotion.

As for her relatives - using your “Italian” lineage logic - how “alone” do you think she really is? It’s possible, I’m sure, but no friends? Relatives anywhere? No one? My goodness, how did people get along before government rent control? How ever did humans survive?

I am compassionate. I am VERY compassionate. Like so many others here, I actually do volunteer and give 10% of my income to charity. I am active in my community. I am also a Dad - father of two - married to a wonderful woman and take care of my own mother .... It is not up to me to take care of Ms. Taliercio. I have my own family to tend to!

Again, many many thanks for your post. I am most appreciative.

Be well.

Andrew Roman
Brooklyn, NY


24 posted on 10/14/2008 7:33:50 PM PDT by andrew roman
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To: johnnycap

I agree that rent control sucks, but it isn’t the lady’s fault that there are rent controlled apartments in NYC, nor is it her fault that you didn’t get a rent controlled apartment. Further, it sounds like you are a little bit jealous of her hook-up (”she probably got the apartment by getting hooked up by some family member or insider”).


25 posted on 10/14/2008 7:34:00 PM PDT by bone52
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To: tbw2
“Or why not an old folks home, given her age?”

LOL. She's only sixty-six! Not ninety-six!

My sixty-six year old lady friend and I just spent a week hiking and climbing around the canyons near Sedona’s Red Rocks (and playing footsie with rattle snakes - I thought they were supposed to rattle to warn you). I'll have to ask her if she's ready to move to an old folks home.

You might be in big trouble with that comment on FR. I suspect there might be more than a few sexagenarians who still run marathons, jump out of perfectly good airplanes, etc.

Still, it was funny.

26 posted on 10/14/2008 7:59:48 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (So your bumper sticker says: "Don't blame me, I didn't vote!"? Duh!)
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To: ChicagahAl
The reality of life is that micro-level compassion cannot be an adequate barometer when handling macro-level issues.

I wish the liberals would apply this "reality" to their idea of affordable housing and afffirmative action.

27 posted on 10/15/2008 4:46:52 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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