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Obama supporters fear race may bring candidate down
reuters.com ^ | October 15, 2008 | Matthew Bigg

Posted on 10/15/2008 9:29:41 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

For supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama it is a nightmare scenario -- his apparent lead in the battle for the White House suddenly evaporates on Election Day. The cause? Race.

As Republican rival John McCain celebrates victory, it emerges that a small but decisive percentage of white voters who had declared to opinion pollsters they supported Obama actually chose differently in the privacy of the ballot booth.

With opinion surveys making Obama the favorite over McCain less than three weeks before the November 4 election, attention has turned to the question of how many white Americans might be lying to pollsters about their willingness to vote for a black president.

The phenomenon is known as the "Bradley effect," after Tom Bradley, an African American who narrowly lost the 1982 California governor's election despite leading in polls.

His defeat surprised observers who concluded many white voters had not been honest about their intentions. Ever since, pollsters have tried to factor in the Bradley effect in elections featuring black candidates.

Those concerns weighed heavily on John Estep as he canvassed for Obama last week in the mainly white town of St. Bernard, Ohio, where he was once mayor.

"They will say in a poll, or say on the porch, 'I'll vote for Obama.' But I question how many will stick with a person of color when they pull that (voting booth) curtain," said Estep.

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1 posted on 10/15/2008 9:29:41 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Setting things up...


2 posted on 10/15/2008 9:31:11 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Berlin_Freeper

They are seriously priming the pump for riots to break out when their candidate loses.


3 posted on 10/15/2008 9:31:17 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
His race won't but his racism might.
4 posted on 10/15/2008 9:31:20 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Racism?

Do they mean Obama’s hatred of Jews is finally going to become an issue?

Or just his general disdain for “typical white people” like his grandma?


5 posted on 10/15/2008 9:31:38 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Racism is not the issue. Marxism is!!


6 posted on 10/15/2008 9:31:43 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Berlin_Freeper

These people are STUCK ON STUPID!

I got a call from a Shaheen volunteer yesterday.

She said I was not voting for the DemonRATs because I was a racist.

I told her it had nothing to do with race, and that I had voted for Alan Keyes in the 2000 primary.

I told her it was IDEOLOGY!!!


7 posted on 10/15/2008 9:32:08 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Another day, another "racists" article.

Why do these keep cropping up? Could it be The One is not confident of his own predictions of victory?

8 posted on 10/15/2008 9:32:39 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (This is no time to go wobbly.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

author’s facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew_Bigg/567691828


9 posted on 10/15/2008 9:32:44 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Guys, we’re seeing one of these a day. That tells me that THEY know these polls are as bogus as we think they are.


10 posted on 10/15/2008 9:33:01 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This crap is aggravating!!! He’ll lose because he’s a socialist and a racist....


11 posted on 10/15/2008 9:33:22 AM PDT by Longstreet63 (Che Guevara is a genocidal hero of the ignorant...)
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To: Chaguito
Setting things up...

for the post-election riots.

12 posted on 10/15/2008 9:33:28 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I say AGAIN, IT’S NOT HIS RACE.

IT’S HIS MARXIST SOCIALIST PHILOSOPHY, HIS TOTAL LACK OF CHARACTER and EMPTY RHETORIC.

This clown makes Dick Nixon, LBJ and Clintoon look like saints.


13 posted on 10/15/2008 9:33:42 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Face it folks, if Obama loses it will ONLY be because he’s black.

Just accept and prepare now to defend your family and property.

I may keep my children home from school for a few days after the election. My middle schoolers have already had black students talking about “Whitey needs killin’” when another student expressed support for McCain. I was appalled until I talked to several other students who were hearing the same stuff.

This will make everyone insane. Frightening.


14 posted on 10/15/2008 9:33:46 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

this is such crap. on one hand pmsnbc runs a story about
how whites won’t support a black candidate, whilst in the news crawler they show a story saying that less than 5% of
blacks support mccains candidacy. i suppose this means that
whites are racist until proven otherwize, while blacks are
exempt from accusations of racism.


15 posted on 10/15/2008 9:34:04 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Ask yourself, who would vote for a communist just because he is black. Sheesh, what are people thinking.


16 posted on 10/15/2008 9:34:21 AM PDT by Tarpon (Barrack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

They know those Polls are BS and afraid some of their supporters might not vote if they think its over.


17 posted on 10/15/2008 9:34:26 AM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Race. It can’t possibly be the fact that he is a tax raising marxist, a lying, dissembling friend of cop-killing terrorists, and an arrogant elitist who is a con-artist and snake-oil salesman. No, of course not.


18 posted on 10/15/2008 9:34:45 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

<”FONT SIZE” = 18>If you vote for John McCain, you are a racist!<”FONT SIZE” = 10>


19 posted on 10/15/2008 9:34:46 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("They aren't people! They're the ACLU!" - General Patton in An American Carol)
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To: cdga5for4

another of Matthew Bigg’s greatest hits: Threat to Obama stirs painful memories

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2635488320080827?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=10112


20 posted on 10/15/2008 9:35:59 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’ll be voting against the half white heritage of Hussein. That should take care of the racist angle of voting.


21 posted on 10/15/2008 9:36:25 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98...Ain't no Newbie!)
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To: autumnraine

There will be problems either way. He wins, disaster. He loses, excuses, false charges, anger, violence.

If people are stupid enough to riot over a loser like Rodney King, what will they do when a real loser like Obama takes a beating.


22 posted on 10/15/2008 9:36:43 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (u)
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To: Chaguito
Setting things up...

My thoughts exactly. Question is, WHY? Are the poll questions such that race is excluded from the answer?

23 posted on 10/15/2008 9:37:16 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: Berlin_Freeper
his apparent lead in the battle for the White House suddenly evaporates on Election Day. The cause? Race.

This is their excuse for "blood in the streets".

The facts suggest two factors may affect the outcome that will conflict with the polls:

1) The pollsters use formulas to adjust their responses by party affiliation. Given the ACORN fraud, the number of registered dims is most likely inflated particularly in the "swing states", therefore giving a false high percentage to obambi.

2) Limbaugh's operation chaos also has people who always intended to vote Republican, list their party as dimocrat. This also inflates the numbers used by the pollsters in their "special sauce".

The bottom line is that the dims are preparing this election's scenario as to How the election was stolen...again.

24 posted on 10/15/2008 9:37:44 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Berlin_Freeper

a leftist co-worker recently said; “You just know that there are whites who won’t vote for Obama simply because he’s a black man!”

To which I replied; “You just know that there are blacks who won’t vote for McCain simply because he’s a white man”

..she then said that my comment was racist.

odd


25 posted on 10/15/2008 9:37:53 AM PDT by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The blacks voting Obama seem to be doing it only out of race as well, so there is a race issue.

I was listening to a clip from Howard Stern where he interviewed blacks on the street.

He asked if they were voting Obama, of course they were.
He asked why? They stated it was because they liked his policies and not McCains.
So the interviewer started to ask if they agreed with policies (which were McCain's)
He even asked if they were OK with Obama’s choice of Palin as VP? They all went YES YES we agree with all that.

They are all voting a color, so they should be the last folks to call the kettle black IMO.

26 posted on 10/15/2008 9:38:40 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rahbert

I live in Iowa where blacks are only about 2% of the population. Yet Obama defeated both the Breck Girl and the Clinton machine in the primary here. In fact were it not for Iowa, Obama would not have won the nomination.

Go figure!


27 posted on 10/15/2008 9:39:22 AM PDT by safetysign
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To: LS

I’ve yet to see a single pollster outside of Zogby even attempt to quantify the Wilder Effect, and he initially had it at 43%, and down to about 8-10%, every other pollster makes no mention of trying to nail it down.

As for the narrative..Blah Blah Blalalahah whateverrr...


28 posted on 10/15/2008 9:39:57 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

they will say anything to avoid saying that their values, policies and agendas are not in line with what American people want. that’s my $.02


29 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:03 AM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: Westbrook

If a pollster called me I’d be tempted to say “I’m not voting for Obama because of his race. I’ve been told so many times that I’m a racist for not voting for him that I now believe it.”


30 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:29 AM PDT by Terry Mross (O)
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To: autumnraine
Face it folks, if Obama loses it will ONLY be because he’s black.

Please explain.

31 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:46 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Obama’s pick for Kenya was Raila Odinga, a communist with close ties to radical islamists. He campaigned with him for a week in Kenya, making speeches and giving the media interviews all while on a fact-finding mission paid for by taxpayers.

After Odinga lost the election, his supporters rioted and hundreds were killed and many Christian churches were burned to the ground. To quell the unrest, the newly elected government granted Odinga the position of Prime Minister.

O-bama—O-dinga. The similarities abound.


32 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:52 AM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

And so it begins. They’ll call it the Bradley effect but they know very well these polls are not accurate. The radicals aren’t going to take this very well at all.


33 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:58 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“The cause? Race.”

Hey there.... it wasn’t the white boys & girls that brought the ‘race card’ into this race....it has been the blacks and the dems that have begged for this to be about race.... be sure to also thank Rev Wright and his hateful cult.


34 posted on 10/15/2008 9:41:07 AM PDT by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I posted this months ago. I think it is relevant here:

There are two facts about Barak Obama which stand out above all others: first, he is so inexperienced that he is unqualified to be the president of the United States of American. Second, he is regarded to be African-American.

The truth, which no one seems to be willing to tell, is that such an inexperienced individual would never be the nominee of America's largest political party if it were not for the fact that he is accepted to be black. He would not be nominated if he were not African-American.

One of the ways he got nominated, apart from the mainstream media like Chris Matthews anointing him to assuage their white guilt, was because he polled better than 90% of African-Americans in the primaries. Another truth that is rarely mentioned is that, quite simply, African-Americans voted their race. They voted for Obama because he is black. That is the essence of racism.

The problem with this development for white voters is that people like Chris Matthews ask us to unilaterally disarm in the face of this racism. We are told at every turn that criticism of Obama's inexperience is thinly disguised racism. The mainstream media who tell us that, as well as black voters who are motivated by racism, are not just playing some game, they are trying to attain political power over all voters including white voters.

That is, after all, what politics is all about: who gets to enforce the decisions at the point of a gun about who gets what and who pays for it. In extreme instances, the chief executive commits our sons, and now daughters, to die on some battlefield. The stakes are almost infinite. They involve our blood and treasure.

If the game of politics is to be rigged by racism it is folly for white people to play a different game. If blacks can vote for Obama because he is black, whites can vote against him because he is black. If blacks can vote their race, whites can vote their race too, and do so free of taint of racism.

The mainstream media, and Chris Matthews is the prominent example, perhaps unconsciously, have been struggling to divert white voters' attention away from these realities and away from voting their own self-interest, or even the interests of the nation as a whole.

The best that can be said of Obama is that he is inexperienced and unqualified for office. The worst that can be said of this campaign is that it is racist at its core.


35 posted on 10/15/2008 9:41:07 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Chaguito

They have been setting this up for a while. The media is totally lying to the American people. The polls are close and they know by election day when people have a choice an all this other stuff comes out on Obama, they will not pick him. If they lose, they want to lose close so they can say “racism and disenfranchisement.”

I think the American people will pick McCain in a landslide when all is said and done and we won’t even have to talk about the race issue. We will be talking about the rejection of fascism.


36 posted on 10/15/2008 9:41:50 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Coming soon to a precinct near you!

37 posted on 10/15/2008 9:42:11 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Obama will give us enough hope to hang ourselves.)
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To: padre35
Right. That's why I tried to publish as many of these races as I could, and I think in most of these, the margin is between 4 and 10 points.

However, I think this will be VASTLY larger in certain pockets---SE OH, W VA, PA, MO, VA. In other words, important areas that count in the electoral college.

38 posted on 10/15/2008 9:42:39 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: pfflier

That was sarcasm. I was saying if he loses, he and his wife and every MSM outlet, every “Civil rights leader” will claim it is because of racism. No other reason.

Sorry, I should have done the sarcasm tag thing.


39 posted on 10/15/2008 9:42:40 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Obama doesn’t qualify as black under the minority laws of the US — he is only 6.25% black, 43.75% Luo, and 50% white.

He is a fraud from the get go!


40 posted on 10/15/2008 9:42:46 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
For supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama it is a nightmare scenario -- his apparent lead in the battle for the White House suddenly evaporates on Election Day. The cause? Race. Personally I don't care why he lost, only that he lost. A loss for Obama is a win for America.
41 posted on 10/15/2008 9:43:45 AM PDT by StandardDeviation
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To: autumnraine
My middle schoolers have already had black students talking about “Whitey needs killin’”

These are the days when I'm glad I homeschool.

42 posted on 10/15/2008 9:44:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I don't care what race he is.

He's a socialist. He's arrogant, inexperienced and appears to have quite a nasty agenda.

I wouldn't vote for him if he were as white as a new-fallen snow.

43 posted on 10/15/2008 9:44:48 AM PDT by Allegra (3 weeks left...we can do this.)
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44 posted on 10/15/2008 9:45:08 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (We're counting on you to drag the old codger across the finish line first, Sarah!)
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To: rahbert
i suppose this means that whites are racist until proven otherwize, while blacks are exempt from accusations of racism.

"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means...."

45 posted on 10/15/2008 9:45:36 AM PDT by thulldud (All your rumor are mong to us.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I am so sick and tired of this "meme"!

John McCain has picked a female VP, have you read even one story about that?

Just because I am not voting for a black man this time does not mean I haven't in the past (I have) or won't in the future.

Where were these stories when Lynn Swann was running in PA? Maybe that's why he lost?

46 posted on 10/15/2008 9:45:41 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: LS
Guys, we’re seeing one of these a day. That tells me that THEY know these polls are as bogus as we think they are.

Buoyed by encouraging poll numbers -- today's ABC News/Washington Post poll has Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., beating Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz, 53% to 43% -- lots of Obama backers out there seem to think this thing is over. ...That's not what lots of smart folks in the Obama campaign think. They believe Obama's poll numbers are artificially high, McCain's are artificially low, this race will come down to two or three points, and anything could happen.

47 posted on 10/15/2008 9:45:50 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: A CA Guy

OMG...”I was listening to a clip from Howard Stern where he interviewed blacks on the street.”

My son was trying to describe something he heard from “some guy” on the radio.

The guy asked several people in New York questions and one of the questions was;

What does Liquidity mean — and the young girl replied, “the name of one of the girls at my high school...I don’t know.”

I kept saying Sean Hannity, Rush, Chris...and he kept saying no, no, the only other person I could think of was IMUS and I didn’t think there was anyway he was going near something as radioactive as that...

Okay, now it understand.

It was Howard Stern...geeeezzzz...


48 posted on 10/15/2008 9:46:05 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: autumnraine

“May” keep your kids home?

Oh, BTW, if you have a place in the country, you might consider erecting racist anti-Obama signs in front of your house; they’ll torch it and you can collect the insurance to pay off the house in the country! Ya’ gotta start thinking outside the box!


49 posted on 10/15/2008 9:46:08 AM PDT by glide625
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It’s race that will bring him down — it’s his radical alliances.


50 posted on 10/15/2008 9:46:30 AM PDT by jersey117
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