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Obama to Declare Carbon Dioxide Dangerous Pollutant (Update1)
bloomberg link only ^ | Oct. 16 | By Jim Efstathiou Jr.

Posted on 10/16/2008 3:34:41 PM PDT by xcamel

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=alHWVvGnkcd4&refer=canada

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; agw; antichrist; co2; energy; environut; issues; nobama; obama; weredoomed; worstpresidentever
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1 posted on 10/16/2008 3:34:41 PM PDT by xcamel
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To: xcamel

Does that mean I have to stop breathing.


2 posted on 10/16/2008 3:35:48 PM PDT by rdl6989 (What isn't above Obama's pay grade?)
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To: xcamel

Good!! Then I hope he stops exhaling!!!


3 posted on 10/16/2008 3:36:10 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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4 posted on 10/16/2008 3:36:14 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: xcamel

Well that should be fun.

Carbon Dioxide is an essential gas in the makeup of the atmosphere. Without it all life on Earth would die.

It’s no more a “pollutant” than is Oxygen.


5 posted on 10/16/2008 3:36:55 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

He is a piece of crap communist


6 posted on 10/16/2008 3:37:27 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: rdl6989
Does that mean I have to stop breathing.

It might be his plan. Kill off anybody that doesn't agree with him under the guise of "Saving the planet"

7 posted on 10/16/2008 3:37:47 PM PDT by txroadkill (Do it for Sarah!- Conservatism= finding joy in duty)
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To: xcamel

Did you see the EPA edict released today on lead levels which was ordered by a judge?

Stupidity erupts.


8 posted on 10/16/2008 3:40:18 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: txroadkill

Barak could help the problem, stop breathing you fake!!


9 posted on 10/16/2008 3:41:43 PM PDT by refermech
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To: Glenn

Yes, I did.


10 posted on 10/16/2008 3:42:38 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: xcamel

If it’s so dangerous, then why doesn’t he stop emitting it?


11 posted on 10/16/2008 3:43:12 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle '08 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia '08)
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To: xcamel

Does that mean he’ll shut his freakin’ Marxist piehole?


12 posted on 10/16/2008 3:43:46 PM PDT by Yankee
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To: xcamel

Freaking fool. What does that idiot think, plants take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen, that stuff we breath!.


13 posted on 10/16/2008 3:44:17 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: xcamel

Bring it on!


14 posted on 10/16/2008 3:45:02 PM PDT by unspun (Pray and Work! http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org)
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To: xcamel
From the article (italics mine):

Placing heat-trapping pollutants in the same category as ozone may lead to caps on power-plant emissions and force utilities to use the most expensive systems to curb pollution. The move may halt construction plans on as many as half of the 130 proposed new U.S. coal plants.

15 posted on 10/16/2008 3:45:54 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: Joe Brower

Ping to numero ocho.


16 posted on 10/16/2008 3:47:24 PM PDT by OKSooner (We are Joe the Plumber.)
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To: xcamel

Do we have to hold our breath?


17 posted on 10/16/2008 3:48:34 PM PDT by Cricket24 (Just one of those Conservative women!)
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To: Ramius
Carbon Dioxide is an essential gas in the makeup of the atmosphere. Without it all life on Earth would die.

It’s no more a “pollutant” than is Oxygen.

Sorry, but that doesn't make the argument.

Carbon is essential for life, but spewing carbon out in a nice sooty cloud is not free from regulation.

And if you released countless tons of oxygen, you would be causing downwind corrosion--and it would be regulated.

Something being natural and essential does not preclude if from being a pollutant...other objections are demanded, if we are to fight this on a factual, not emotional, level.

18 posted on 10/16/2008 3:50:40 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Califelephant
hmmm. what will it do to those currently operational?
19 posted on 10/16/2008 3:52:46 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (Mrs. Musher here!)
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To: All

What’s next?

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html


20 posted on 10/16/2008 3:54:22 PM PDT by newnhdad (Naval Aviator or "community organizer", you make the call.)
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To: xcamel

Is he going to wear a mask when he speaks? You could capture a lot of carbon emissions that way.


21 posted on 10/16/2008 3:55:38 PM PDT by cookcounty (What will Barack Hismajesty Obama do after he loses?)
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To: xcamel

Stop breathing! The weeds are growing too fast!


22 posted on 10/16/2008 3:56:40 PM PDT by cookcounty (What will Barack Hismajesty Obama do after he loses?)
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To: Gondring

You dear, are completely daft.


23 posted on 10/16/2008 3:59:18 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: cookcounty

Obama will focus on eliminating humans on this earth starting with the USA. This will be the focal point in the start of a revolution. He will start with those who are unable to fend for themselves and work from there. The starting point will be the nursing homes and Social Security roles.

If you are over 80 or in a nursing home, you will be the first to go. As was in Star Trek, please report to a disintegration machine. It is your duty. The baby boomers had better watch out.


24 posted on 10/16/2008 4:00:05 PM PDT by DownInFlames (C)
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To: xcamel

Carbon Dioxide is essential for plant life. Alert the Botanical Liberation front!


25 posted on 10/16/2008 4:00:26 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Vegans hurt most...


26 posted on 10/16/2008 4:01:28 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: Gondring
Carbon is essential for life, but spewing carbon out in a nice sooty cloud is not free from regulation.

You call for rational argument and then post a strawman?? CO2 is not sooty; it is a colorless gas. Now, if you're talking about particulates made of carbon, that's a different story. I don't think you'll find many around here that object to limits on particulate emissions from coal plants. However, sooty emissions are a thing of the past, given clean coal technology. No, the real issue is capping CO2 output in the name of dubious, emotional "science".
27 posted on 10/16/2008 4:01:48 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: txroadkill
Kill off anybody that doesn't agree with him under the guise of "Saving the planet"

I say the people saying that CO2 will kill the planet need to set the example by offing themselves first to convince us it is worth doing...

28 posted on 10/16/2008 4:02:45 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Califelephant

Bingo!


29 posted on 10/16/2008 4:05:43 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: xcamel

I don’t get why he’s doing this now? He should own the environmentalists by now, and it risks alienating other voters.


30 posted on 10/16/2008 4:13:47 PM PDT by macamadamia (Life is a continuation of war by other means.)
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To: xcamel

If this passes as legislation, it could be the most destructive bill to be passed in United States history.


31 posted on 10/16/2008 4:17:47 PM PDT by wastedyears (Another October 14th, another year older.)
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To: macamadamia

Because it was reported in a place that “is banned from access by freerepublic” -


32 posted on 10/16/2008 4:19:38 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: wastedyears
Read the article - not 'legislation'....

Executive Order!!


33 posted on 10/16/2008 4:20:36 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: xcamel

Then stop making it d*** head!!!!


34 posted on 10/16/2008 4:25:44 PM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: xcamel; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

35 posted on 10/16/2008 4:29:49 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: unixfox
Good!! Then I hope he stops exhaling!!!

He should get in trouble for exhaling dangerous pollutants. It would be fun to try a citizens arrest. I bet the Secret Service guys wouldn't think it was too funny, though. Then again, maybe they would. It would relieve them from having to baby sit "the big o."

36 posted on 10/16/2008 4:31:06 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: armydoc
However, sooty emissions are a thing of the past, given clean coal technology.

Actually, conventional coal plants don't emit soot, and they don't emit flyash (unless there is a malfunction). Good combustion prevents soot, a precipitator or baghouse captures flyash, combustion control reduces NOx, a scrubber can remove sulphur, mercury, and nitrogen compounds. Conventional coal plants are really cleaner than the anti-coal people want to admit.

The term "clean coal" is typically used to mean newer design boilers where pollutants like sulphur are captured before they even enter the flue gas stream. There may still be flyash in a "clean coal" process like a CFB boiler. These type of boilers still require a baghouse or precipitator.

What the general public really means when they talk about "dirty coal" is the conventional plants of old, which burned coal without any controls at all. These do not exist anymore with maybe one or two exceptions. These days they have added CO2 as a pollutant from "dirty coal" to maintain the villainization as the emissions of coal plants continue to get cleaner. This is just BS.

37 posted on 10/16/2008 4:31:08 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: xcamel

He said that while exhaling carbon dioxide.


38 posted on 10/16/2008 4:33:00 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (The Media investigated Joe The Plumber more thoroughly than they investigated Barack Obama)
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To: xcamel

Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. This declaration by Obama only appeals to hardcore environmentalists and is, at least arguably, risky in its appeal to other voters. Isn’t this sort of political move done early in a campaign when a candidate tries to rally his base?


39 posted on 10/16/2008 4:35:04 PM PDT by macamadamia (Life is a continuation of war by other means.)
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To: Gondring
Something being natural and essential does not preclude if from being a pollutant...other objections are demanded, if we are to fight this on a factual, not emotional, level.

The point is that once the government can declare CO2 to be a pollutant, and has the power to regulate it, there is virtually no aspect of human activity over which it can be denied from exercising authority and control.

40 posted on 10/16/2008 4:36:35 PM PDT by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: xcamel

First the death tax, now the Breath tax


41 posted on 10/16/2008 4:36:42 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: macamadamia

Big money from the NRDC, and the Sierra Club...


42 posted on 10/16/2008 4:37:49 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: xcamel

Scrappleface?

If this is for real, he needs to be institutionalized not voted for.


43 posted on 10/16/2008 4:40:04 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Drill HERE! Drill NOW! MORE refineries! Pay LESS!)
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To: xcamel

Obama is a clueless moron.


44 posted on 10/16/2008 4:40:15 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Gondring

Gondring, you have your head firmly planted where the sun don’t shine. CO2 as you say is essential and natural. so how can it be a pollutant also? CO2 comprises less than 4% of the atmosphere, which is low by historical standards. more CO2 equals more luxuriant plant life. we need more, not less CO2 for better crop yields. you combine soot with CO2, as if they were the same. CO2 is colorless, and odorless. Geez!!


45 posted on 10/16/2008 4:54:25 PM PDT by capn dino
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To: shankbear
He is a piece of crap communist

Is there any other kind????

46 posted on 10/16/2008 4:56:52 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: rdl6989

I know I am a sinner, but a polluter as well?

Oh, the humanity.


47 posted on 10/16/2008 5:07:35 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: Ramius

Exactly. And carbon dioxide is only present in trace amounts. A recent estimate is 380 parts per million, up from about 320 ppm 50 years ago. No one, I repeat, no one, knows how much CO2 is present due to industrial activity.

The Gorons and other socialists such as BHO talk about “greenhouse gasses” as if they were all the evil output of capitalism. In fact, greenhouse gasses are normal and essential to keep the earth warm enough for humans. One of the major greenhouse gasses is water vapor. Another is methane, which comes primarily from cows and Democrats.

The earth’s climate is very poorly understood by scientists, except of course the pseudo-scientists who think they can predict the sea level at New York City 70 years from now. Our climate experts can’t even accurately tell us where a hurricane will land in 48 hours.

Obama in the White House with the Democrat Congress would saddle the United States with economy-killing new regulations and taxes in their religious Jihad aimed at non-existent, man-made, “global warming”.


48 posted on 10/16/2008 5:34:32 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: pleikumud

CO2 levels were much higher in the past. Flora thrived, Fauna thrived. World was a warmer, wetter place. But that was long ago, things will be getting cooler from now on, as they have been for eons. The thought that man can affect this sytem to any extent is brilliance or sheer folly.


49 posted on 10/16/2008 5:47:23 PM PDT by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: xcamel

He’s going to start taxing us for breathing. F@cking socialist pompous ass.


50 posted on 10/16/2008 5:59:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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