Restoring conservatism [eject the RINOs]

Renew America ^ | 2008-10-17 | Ken Connor

[rabscuttle385]

If the election were held today, Barack Obama would be the new President of the United States of America. The latest Real Clear Politics average of national polls shows Obama ahead of McCain by nearly seven percentage points. It looks like the Democrats are going to have control of both the White House and Congress for the next four years.

And, mark it down, if there is a Democrat sweep, conservative Republicans will get the blame.

The fact of the matter is, however, that President Bush and the Republicans who dominated Congress during most of his administration governed as anything but conservatives. Except during election season, it has been difficult to find any trace of conservative principles among incumbents within the Republican Party. During their tenure, Republican governance was characterized by out of control spending, record-setting earmarks, affirmative action programs for corporate wrongdoers, corrupt relations with special interests, and sexual scandal. While they often described themselves as "conservatives," their walk was very different from their talk.

. . . . .

Few Republicans in leadership in government during the past decade have been authentic conservatives. At best, they have been counterfeit conservatives, which no doubt accounts for why Republicans lost so many seats in 2006 and why they appear ready to lose more seats and the Presidency this November.

In the aftermath of the election, the Republican Party will undoubtedly have the time to engage in serious introspection. Hopefully, its leaders will come to understand that conservatism is not just a "label" or even a "movement." It is a way of life.

[familyop]

"And, mark it down, if there is a Democrat sweep, conservative Republicans will get the blame."

I was a republican for decades. As of yesterday, I am no longer a Republican. The Republican Party has become another anti-family, anti-American party. It even shows in much of the hysterical rhetoric of the current campaign.

[rabscuttle385]

Falcon Party ping!

[rbbeachkid]

Yesterday I was reflecting on the 1994 mid term elections and the results. I guess that the leftward progress slowed with a Democrat in the White House and a leftist Supreme Court, but I had hoped for better.

However, liberals seemed to go crazy left. They became less and less willing to work with the majority and more staunch in their positions. The moderates didn’t have much of a voice anymore.

I don’t want Obama to become president and I am not convinced that he is really running ahead now. I think that the non committeds know who they are voting for. They just don’t want to admit they won’t vote for the one.

I do have the hope that if we do lose, we will take the path of the liberals in the 1990s and turn hard right. Apparently, that is not the kiss of death that the proponents of moderatism advocate.

[Just A Nobody]

FALCON Party 2012, if we make it!

[stockpirate]

I hate being this far out and the race is 2-3 points and we get people claiming the race is over and what we should do fix the problem of our defeat.

First thing is to IGNORE those who say the election is lost.

When in fact McCain is GAINING in the polls on O.

It ain’t over until November 4 th.

[Tail Gunner John]

Should McCain stumble into the white house you'll get a conservative’s nightmare. McCain, a consummate RINO, will have a bipartisan (dem/RINO) cabinet that will give us more socialism lite. As things continue to go to hell for the next four years we conservatives will be blamed once again.

In 1976 we were in the same boat. After four years of grief with jimmah conservatism was reaffirmed. I can only hope for a repeat of history.

Only one problem, where do we get a 65 year old Ronald Reagan clone by 2010?

[rabscuttle385]

McCain, a consummate RINO, will have a bipartisan (dem/RINO) cabinet that will give us more socialism lite. As things continue to go to hell for the next four years we conservatives will be blamed once again.

Bingo.

Should McCain stumble into the white house you'll get a conservative’s nightmare.

Now do Freepers understand why there is a Juan McCain ping list? McCain has the ability and the willingness to single-handedly discredit and destroy the entire conservative movement.

And now so many conservatives and Republicans are contemplating giving him the power to do so.

[Gondring]

Except during election season, it has been difficult to find any trace of conservative principles among incumbents within the Republican Party. During their tenure, Republican governance was characterized by out of control spending, record-setting earmarks, affirmative action programs for corporate wrongdoers, corrupt relations with special interests, and sexual scandal. While they often described themselves as "conservatives," their walk was very different from their talk.

I wish that if we had to have a liberal, people wouldn't think he was a "conservative."

Sad that "Compassionate Conservatism" = "Nanny-State Socialism"

[FocusNexus]

Leftist liberals are about to overtake the country and you are worry about “RINO”s, instead of the leftist Democrats!

Read this:

A Liberal Supermajority
Get ready for ‘change’ we haven’t seen since 1965, or 1933.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

If the current polls hold, Barack Obama will win the White House on November 4 and Democrats will consolidate their Congressional majorities, probably with a filibuster-proof Senate or very close to it. Without the ability to filibuster, the Senate would become like the House, able to pass whatever the majority wants.

Liberals would dominate the entire government in a way they haven’t since 1965, or 1933. In other words, the election would mark the restoration of the activist government that fell out of public favor in the 1970s. If the U.S. really is entering a period of unchecked left-wing ascendancy, Americans at least ought to understand what they will be getting, especially with the media cheering it all on.

[Gondring]

Except during election season, it has been difficult to find any trace of conservative principles among incumbents within the Republican Party. During their tenure, Republican governance was characterized by out of control spending, record-setting earmarks, affirmative action programs for corporate wrongdoers, corrupt relations with special interests, and sexual scandal. While they often described themselves as "conservatives," their walk was very different from their talk.

I wish that if we had to have a liberal, people wouldn't think he was a "conservative."

Sad that "Compassionate Conservatism" = "Nanny-State Socialism"

[SoCalPol]

You are just a school boy with no background in the world of reality.

I have been following elections since the time of Eisenhower on.
Also worked for Reagan when he first ran for Gov.

I remember the Korean War, the Viet Nam War and major activity today with the war in the Middle East where I have many relatives, not to mention the Cuban crisis, Berlin, and Cold War.

Duck and Cover drills and air raid sirens testing when I was in school as my city has the largest concentration of Navy and Marines.
Being for some days in Communist East Germany in the early 1980s.

America is not a board game. True Americans are still fighting to see that McCain wins and Republican victory over democrats in congress and st. gov.

If you think by trying to punish the Republicans by having Marxist & isolationists win, you really have no understanding that this is our last election if Obama wins.

An don’t go into the border issue, I have fought the issue of illegals for yrs.

Looking south from my apt. bldg, I can see the bay and part of Mexico jetting out. I am around 18 miles north of the largest and busiest border crossing in the world.
so don’t push that issue, I live it and am damn glad to vote for McCain as he is our last hope

[familyop]

"FALCON Party 2012, if we make it!"

We'll make it. I live near a very large rich folks' play area and have driven many Miss Daisies and their boys to their lodgings there. Those places get much of their revenues from corporates and favored employees of corporates. ...see them driving their $50,000-$150,000 vehicles every day. Trust me: the big push for Obama is coming from relatives of most of the political rich white folks. Most higher managers in corporates are related to many university instructors, highly paid government employees, and the like.

Such people only pick between politicians to choose our presidents based on the more trivial traits of politicians' personalities. In nomination campaigning, politicians are chosen by the same most influential constituents for each political party. After the general elections, the elected politicians do as they're told by our superiors while in office.

And that's the point. The elected politicians will do as they're told by the most influential constituents in both parties. Whether McCain or Obama, it will be government by the same clucking flocks of relatives of the wealthiest people: those with resources and much time on their hands.

I believe that we'll see more of the same policies either way. For example, almost all of the congressmen in both parties voted in favor of the VAWA. The VAWA is anti-family, unconstitutional and anti-Second-Amendment. Almost of members of congress in both parties have also voted against our national security for trade-related bills.

The most influential constituents have most recently pushed our elected politicians away from doing anything about Iran, because they don't want oil to go up. If oil goes way up, freight fuel will go out of sight. If freight fuel goes very high, the import regime will stop. Thus, domestic manufacturing would have to resume as it has in the past--a very difficult transition ahead.

There's another thing to consider. If the Democrats get into office, they won't have big revenues to work with due to the national deficit.

The way to "make it" is to save and store for the winter ahead. And we're going to see that winter regardless of which party fills most of the government offices. Globalism is going to crumble by way of balancing currencies (Asia getting richer and raising prices), oil shortages and/or high-intensity wars.

[rabscuttle385]

You are just a school boy with no background in the world of reality.

During the course of the procession, a small child cries out, "But he has nothing on!" (source)

The emperor has no clothes, and that is the reality here.

It's such a pity that you apparently believe that Columbia's youngest citizens are irrelevant. Instead of listening to their hopes and fears, Republicans are too busy dismissing them and ridiculing them, and that is why they are turning to the false Messiah Obama in droves.

As per this election, we must hold to what we believe, for if we do not, then what is our purpose for fighting?

[gogogodzilla]

PING!!!

[gogogodzilla]

If Republicans aren’t voting for conservatives in the primaries... then Republicans aren’t the conservative party.

And as such, conservatives need to leave and form a party that actually WILL represent them.

[SoCalPol]

Your reality is Kabuki Slapstick.
The adult world should be something you aspire to someday.

[gogogodzilla]

And our wonderful Republican party is aiding this by fielding the most liberal candidates they can possibly find.

Mel Martinez... Juan McCain... just as examples.

I’m surprised that they haven’t tried to excommunicate Governor Palin, as she seems to be their antithesis.

[Wuli]

How don’t care if such “conservatives” leave the GOP.

But, in a general election, when the facts are evident and the winner will either be the GOP candidate and an avoid Marxist like Obama, I hope those “conservatives” understand that their own party members, if elected to Congress, will find more favor with other GOPers there and a GOP President than they will ever get from an Obama; and therefore, just as I would expect GOP members to vote for a “Conservative Party” presidential candidate, when the other top likely winner was an Obama; which I have allot of confidence that most in the GOP would do.

So, if you expect me to believe that you really care most about your conservatism but that you prefer to NOT vote for McCain, then I will accept that you are NOT a true conservative because one would not help elect an avoid Marxist, no matter what.

[billva]

I was a republican for decades. As of yesterday, I am no longer a Republican. The Republican Party has become another anti-family, anti-American party. It even shows in much of the hysterical rhetoric of the current campaign.

What nonsense, it sure doesn't make sense to lose this election where the liberal dims will do their will for the next number of years.

I'll speak for myself, but I assure that if McCain loses this election because of malcontent ultra conservatives stay home, you can rest assure that come the next election cycle I will make sure I don't vote for a candidate that the base will be people who think it's ok to bive us Obama and liberals for the next 4 - 8 years.

I'm personally fed up with folks who think staying home is the answer, I have nothing in common with that line of thought and believe me will not have anything in common with the person you push next time.

Have a nice evening.

[familyop]

"...but I assure that if McCain loses this election because of malcontent ultra conservatives...I have nothing in common with that line of thought and believe me will not have anything in common with the person you push next time."

I worked for family rights while being opposed by the prevailing matrons and sugar daddies of both political parties for over a decade. It's very doubtful that you would be persuaded to vote for a candidate of our choosing regardless of how we vote (or not) in the meantime. But the circumstances of the next few years, regardless of the outcome of the Election, will probably change most minds toward social conservatism and defense over foreign trade and reigning sexual confusion in our leadership.