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Palin's environmental policy can be judged by Wasilla
Herald Tribune.com ^ | 10/20/08 | MATT APUZZO

Posted on 10/20/2008 11:55:22 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft

WASILLA, Alaska - Long before John McCain made Gov. Sarah Palin his running mate and before her views on global warming became a campaign issue, Palin's environmental priorities were crystallized in a city where she was mayor and where development has long trumped conservation. ............. more at site.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldtribune.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: elections; greens; palin; palinhit; palinrecord; wasilla
Politics in the Real Estate section.
1 posted on 10/20/2008 11:55:23 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Another anti-Sarah hit piece. What a contrast to the glowing and worshipful MSM coverage of The One!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 10/20/2008 11:58:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
What has The Anointed One ever done for the environment in his years as “community organizer”, state Senator, and US Senator? I'd say very little, other than pollute it.
3 posted on 10/20/2008 12:01:30 PM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera

And the hits keep coming...


4 posted on 10/20/2008 12:03:53 PM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Desperation ping!


5 posted on 10/20/2008 12:05:43 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Hey NObama...what part of "content of their character" do you not understand?)
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To: goldstategop; Grampa Dave; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; Randy Larsen; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
Shazzam!!! She sounds exactly like the kind of local elected official that I was!!!

All the leftist anti development NIMBYs and BANANAs just hate real estate improvements and business growth with the jobs it provides and free markets!!! All of which provides the tax base growth for more of their damned beloved GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS!!!

6 posted on 10/20/2008 12:07:26 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Hey Colin Powell...Fidel Castro and Che Gueverra were "transformational figures" too, you idiot!!!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

As if any environmentalist whackjob were still undecided. Let the media waste their time on this. Morons...


7 posted on 10/20/2008 12:08:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: SierraWasp

The Democrats prove over and over again that they don’t understand where wealth comes from. Who will they tax when they have destroyed business and put everyone on unemployment?

I just love statements like, “We will tax those evil corporations.” Who gets hurt by this? Board members? The executives? No, it’s the employees and share holders. It’s the people who purchase the products or services sold by the corporation.

Corporations are not the enemy the leftists think they are. I do think they can have a very detrimental effect on the nation if they take certain actions, but then the left couldn’t be less concerned with that.


8 posted on 10/20/2008 12:13:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: DoughtyOne
From Ladyhawke:

Bishop of Aquila: This famine has prevented people from paying their proper tribute to the church. I raise their taxes, only to be told there’s nothing left for me to tax. Imagine!

9 posted on 10/20/2008 12:17:02 PM PDT by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: TChris

LOL, that’s about it isn’t it.


10 posted on 10/20/2008 12:21:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: SierraWasp

All the leftist anti development NIMBYs and BANANAs

What’s a BANANA? This sounds like it could be good! :o)


11 posted on 10/20/2008 12:25:50 PM PDT by luckymom (Forget the baby whales, save the baby humans.)
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To: luckymom

Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody


12 posted on 10/20/2008 12:27:51 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: luckymom

Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything (or anyone).


13 posted on 10/20/2008 12:29:35 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The Democrats prove over and over again that they don’t understand where wealth comes from. Who will they tax when they have destroyed business and put everyone on unemployment?

They'll stop paying the unemployment and start using bullets to reduce the customer base.

14 posted on 10/20/2008 12:30:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (If Barack Obama is Vladamir Lenin, Bill Ayers is Leon Trotsky.)
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To: DoughtyOne

We have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world and ‘companies are shipping jobs overseas.’ And yet they do not get the connection.


15 posted on 10/20/2008 12:31:11 PM PDT by NeilGus
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To: Carry_Okie

Well, at least the rabid environmentalists would be happy.

I hear ya.


16 posted on 10/20/2008 12:43:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I’d sure prefer spending a few weeks in the environment of Wasilla than a day in the southside of Chicago.


17 posted on 10/20/2008 12:45:21 PM PDT by fso301
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To: NeilGus
We have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world and ‘companies are shipping jobs overseas.’ And yet they do not get the connection.

You know what, you and I have thought like this for years.

What you and I need to realize, is that the left is trying to destroy in order to rebuild. That's truly the only way any of this makes sense.

The just got caught trying to destroy our economic system. What other explanation is there?

18 posted on 10/20/2008 12:46:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: SierraWasp

Tax sucking illegals are loved all over Northern California and developers who build homes, office buildings, malls and business districts are hated developers.


19 posted on 10/20/2008 12:46:36 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Joe the plumber should provide his license right after Obama provides his real birth certificate)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
In Wasilla, being pro-business was necessary. When Palin took office as mayor in 1996, the region's 10.3 percent unemployment rate was one-third higher than the state's and twice that of Anchorage.

Palin gave people what they wanted: jobs that did not require an hourlong commute to Anchorage, 44 miles to the south, or monthlong stints on the frigid North Slope oil fields.

20 posted on 10/20/2008 12:52:50 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: DoughtyOne
Well, at least the rabid environmentalists would be happy.

In theory, but frankly the useful idiots are usually the first to go.

See my cool new tag-line!

21 posted on 10/20/2008 1:04:18 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (If Barack Obama is Vladamir Lenin, Bill Ayers will be Leon Trotsky.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Hey I like it.

Oh I don’t know about that weasel brigade. Once the bad guys take power, they have no power left. Their leaders might need to go, but most of these idiots would be lost without them.

The rule of thumb is to eliminate anyone who could participate in a counter revolution, so you have to keep that in mind I suppose.


22 posted on 10/20/2008 1:13:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
The article starts right off with a whopper: "Dozens of strip malls sprung up along the city's two glacial lakes. The costs of such fast -- and sometimes haphazard -- growth can be seen even from Palin's lakefront home. Once-pristine Lake Lucille is plagued by high levels of phosphorous, which chokes off oxygen from the salmon and trout. Scientists put the blame on nearby development." Curiously enough it seems that 2005 was the latest sampling down by the state and this was written: "3.3 Nutrients Nutrient samples were collected from all locations during the four sampling events of 2005. All three sites had a sample collected from a depth of one meter. LL-3 also had a second, deeper sample collected. Nutrient results are summarized in the data tables in Attachment D and are discussed below. Phosphorus Total phosphorus and ortho-phosphate detections above laboratory reporting limits (100 mg/L and 400 mg/L, respectively) were infrequent and most detected concentrations were flagged by the laboratory as estimates. Detected total phosphorus concentrations ranged from 0.04 to 0.36 mg/L. Detected ortho-phosphate concentrations ranged from 0.13 to 0.25 mg/L. Table 9 and Figure 6 show results for ortho-phosphate and total phosphorous. Neither dissolved orthophosphate nor total phosphorus has an AWQS. Historical levels of total phosphorus at Lake Lucille fall well below the laboratory’s detection limits: previous studies report levels averaging between 19.5 and 21 μg/L (ADEC, 2002). Due to such low levels, requesting a lower detection limit may benefit future monitoring. However, attaining detection limits within the range of historical levels can be difficult. For instance, in a similar water-quality monitoring study at Big Lake (OASIS, 2006), lower detection limits were requested because they were also well above the lakes historic levels (8-20 μg/L for total phosphorus, 1-8 μg/L for ortho-phosphate; Woods, 1992). The lab was able to lower the limits by approximately 70%. The resulting detection limits were 31 μg/L for total phosphorus and 120 μg/L for ortho-phosphate, which unfortunately were still too high to adequately monitor phosphorus levels in Big Lake." In other words, the equipment being used couldn't measure concentrations below .012 mg/l so it is hard to understand how the 2002 report was stated to have readings in ug/l. Looking farter down, one sees that out of five areas sampled, only four had "high" readings of Phosphorus and another bar chart only shows four. Dissolved oxygen was well within the growth and progagation range for fish however. Samplings were from May to Oct at about 45 day intervals Dissolved oxygen varies inversely to water temperature as is to be expected. If the 2002 numbers are to be believed the total phosphorus has indeed increased but not to a level expected to cause any harm to either water creatures or to any drinking water pulled from the lake.
23 posted on 10/20/2008 1:35:12 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
The article starts right off with a whopper:

"Dozens of strip malls sprung up along the city's two glacial lakes.

The costs of such fast -- and sometimes haphazard -- growth can be seen even from Palin's lakefront home. Once-pristine Lake Lucille is plagued by high levels of phosphorous, which chokes off oxygen from the salmon and trout. Scientists put the blame on nearby development."

Curiously enough it seems that 2005 was the latest sampling down by the state and this was written:

"3.3 Nutrients Nutrient samples were collected from all locations during the four sampling events of 2005. All three sites had a sample collected from a depth of one meter. LL-3 also had a second, deeper sample collected. Nutrient results are summarized in the data tables in Attachment D and are discussed below.

Phosphorus

Total phosphorus and ortho-phosphate detections above laboratory reporting limits (100 mg/L and 400 mg/L, respectively) were infrequent and most detected concentrations were flagged by the laboratory as estimates. Detected total phosphorus concentrations ranged from 0.04 to 0.36 mg/L. Detected ortho-phosphate concentrations ranged from 0.13 to 0.25 mg/L

Table 9 and Figure 6 show results for ortho-phosphate and total phosphorous. Neither dissolved orthophosphate nor total phosphorus has an AWQS.

Historical levels of total phosphorus at Lake Lucille fall well below the laboratory’s detection limits: previous studies report levels averaging between 19.5 and 21 μg/L (ADEC, 2002). Due to such low levels, requesting a lower detection limit may benefit future monitoring.

However, attaining detection limits within the range of historical levels can be difficult. For instance, in a similar water-quality monitoring study at Big Lake (OASIS, 2006), lower detection limits were requested because they were also well above the lakes historic levels (8-20 μg/L for total phosphorus, 1-8 μg/L for ortho-phosphate; Woods, 1992). The lab was able to lower the limits by approximately 70%. The resulting detection limits were 31 μg/L for total phosphorus and 120 μg/L for ortho-phosphate, which unfortunately were still too high to adequately monitor phosphorus levels in Big Lake."

In other words, the equipment being used couldn't measure concentrations below .012 mg/l so it is hard to understand how the 2002 report was stated to have readings in ug/l.

Looking farter down, one sees that out of five areas sampled, only four had "high" readings of Phosphorus and another bar chart only shows four.

Dissolved oxygen was well within the growth and progagation range for fish however.

Samplings were from May to Oct at about 45 day intervals

Dissolved oxygen varies inversely to water temperature as is to be expected.

If the 2002 numbers are to be believed the total phosphorus has indeed increased but not to a level expected to cause any harm to either water creatures or to any drinking water pulled from the lake.

24 posted on 10/20/2008 1:38:43 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; ...
Photoshop from E.I.B.:

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

25 posted on 10/20/2008 1:57:51 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: DoughtyOne
I firmly believe that is the explanation. It is just too outrageous for the ordinary sheeple to believe. (ironicly enough since they believe every kook conspiracy theory made into a movie) But if you follow politics closely enough it is simply a rational conclusion. Time and again economists and conservatives sounded the warning, time and again policies were enacted against that advice.

The Democrat/RINO "No Domestic Energy Policy!"

All of that puts the U.S. in a position that war for oil or
complete economic collapse will be our only choices. Maybe that's the point!?!

26 posted on 10/20/2008 2:30:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: TigersEye

The commies can’t wait to see the foremost capitalist society go belly up. Anything they can do to help, is so much the better.

You’ve pointed out their energy policies. They sabotage our success at every opportunity. If businesses show profits, they seek to take as much of those profits as they can.

They reward sloth and tax productivity.

It’s a strange thing to take in isn’t it.


27 posted on 10/20/2008 2:45:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
She started a committee to address global warming. But with oil companies contributing the largest percentage of the state's greenhouse gases, (which is no surprise given the very small population in AK) her committee set no goal for reducing emissions.

(which is completely irrelevant to Climate Change)

Palin gave people what they wanted: jobs that did not require an hourlong commute to Anchorage, 44 miles to the south, or monthlong stints on the frigid North Slope oil fields.

So, Palin didn't put some useless words hoping to change greenhouse emissions on a useless committee document but she did take actions that led to less emissions. (which is completely irrelevant to Climate Change)

What has 0bambi ever done to decrease irrelevant greenhouse emissions? 0

28 posted on 10/20/2008 2:57:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It is amazing. It is unconscionable. It is infuriating.


29 posted on 10/20/2008 3:01:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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Unlike other states, Alaska's climate change priority is focused on ways to adapt to warmer temperatures.

One out of fifty states has a rational climate policy. Pathetic!

30 posted on 10/20/2008 3:03:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: TigersEye

Agreed


31 posted on 10/20/2008 3:06:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: luckymom
"What’s a BANANA?"

BANANA=Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything!!!

32 posted on 10/20/2008 4:09:46 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Hey Colin Powell...Fidel Castro and Che Gueverra were "transformational figures" too, you idiot!!!)
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Geeze... I step out for a couple of hours and look what happens... I don’t read the whole thread and find out that others are competing to answer one simple little question... Oh well...


33 posted on 10/20/2008 4:17:09 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Hey Colin Powell...Fidel Castro and Che Gueverra were "transformational figures" too, you idiot!!!)
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