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Hawai’i Supreme Court asked to issue emergency writ opening secret Obama birth files
Contrarian Commentary ^ | ANDY MARTIN

Posted on 10/20/2008 6:11:16 PM PDT by T Ruth

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To: Danae

I was station Kaneohe 2 years, sistah


151 posted on 10/20/2008 8:32:58 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Brown Deer

Maybe Obama is not really the son of his “mother”. Maybe he’s the son of his “grandmother”! After all, she was 38 when he was born.

That would explain those mutant ears!

Ok, just funnin’ ya, Dems. Can’t take a joke??


152 posted on 10/20/2008 8:33:25 PM PDT by cookcounty (CAC scandal: Obama & Ayers: $100 million spent on "education" in Chicago. Results: ZIPPO!!!)
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To: CaliforniaCon
I thought the woman in Kenya was wife number one...His mother was wife number two and there was also a third wife, simultaneously. Muslim you know.
153 posted on 10/20/2008 8:34:35 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Acorn, Africa,Alinsky, Ayers,....BroadwayBank,Bastard child,Birthcert......now to the "C"s ;-))
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To: Starwolf
"Always...its a gluttal stop, not a true apostrophe"

Yeah. Kind of like the hyphen in "ruh-roh."

154 posted on 10/20/2008 8:37:32 PM PDT by cookcounty (CAC scandal: Obama & Ayers: $100 million spent on "education" in Chicago. Results: ZIPPO!!!)
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To: CaliforniaCon

And if she was that sick, going home to die, why wouldn’t he take his wife and girls with to see their grandma. Or even if she’s not dying, why wouldn’t they go too?


155 posted on 10/20/2008 8:38:10 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: STARWISE
I’m wondering why folks think his original birth certificate is in his grandma’s apartment rather that in his own personal possession.

It's a reasonable expectation that there is at least a copy with his grandmother. I have copies of my children's birth certificates.

156 posted on 10/20/2008 8:38:19 PM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume, No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: DoughtyOne
Just asking....When were Birth Certificates invented?

My father was born in 1905 and he had no birth certificate. [State of Indiana]

Later in his life Dad went to a County Court and had his father sign a document before a Judge as to Dad's birth date.

157 posted on 10/20/2008 8:40:44 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: T Ruth

What the heck is Obama HUSSEIN hiding from AMERICA????
We cant even get a straight answer on where the Sh*thead was born?
We cant even get a straight answer on the Sh*thead’s school records?
We now KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF DOUBT THAT AN UNREPENTANT AMERICAN TERRORIST, WILLIAM AYER’S, GHOSTWROTE OBAMA’S FLAGSHIP MEMOIR, “DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!”making Obama even a bigger FRAUD than We had believed before.
THE AD tomorrow should be: “OBAMA, WHER ARE YOUR BIRTH RECORDS?? STOP THE CRAP AND TURN THEM LOOSE NOW!!”


158 posted on 10/20/2008 8:45:04 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: cookcounty

Her husband always wanted a son.


159 posted on 10/20/2008 8:48:57 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: fhayek

Not pronouncing the last “i” separately is an Anglicization. Authentic Hawaiian pronunciation can be rendered like this: “Huh - VAH - ee - ee” with the last two syllables pronounced kind of quickly.


160 posted on 10/20/2008 8:49:14 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: cookcounty

Yah mean, Olde Granny at 38 was looking for some of that big stuff she heard about from her daughter???? /s/

Gosh! that might be the reason for hiding the Birth Certificate!


161 posted on 10/20/2008 8:49:18 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: unspun; Wil H

True, but I would’ve thought he had gotten other important documents, etc. on his other visits, especially the last one in August.


162 posted on 10/20/2008 9:00:49 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: CaliforniaCon

Obama is working out the details to get Granny to move in with his “Brother” in KENYA since he is NOT working and the cost of boarding Branny at the HOVEL would be Negligible! That way there will be MORE left for Barry’s Inheritance!
While he is visiting Granny, he will make sure any remaining incriminating records are burned and incinerated!
Then onward to TRASHING* AMERICA!!!! YYAAAA HHOOO!

* TRASHING: more meaningful word for CHANGING!


163 posted on 10/20/2008 9:05:08 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: unspun; SE Mom; penelopesire; Miss Didi; All

God bless her with mercy and healing.

164 posted on 10/20/2008 9:12:40 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: RaceBannon
LOL I was born da, Kaliua till I was 8. Went to da mainland TOTALLY FRIGGING ILLERATE! LOL Actually I am serious, in 3rd grad I was below a first grade level across the board. The Filipino and Japanese and Hawaiians no like da Haole....
165 posted on 10/20/2008 9:14:09 PM PDT by Danae (Obama = Trickle up Poverty. Don't like it, get ready to be"reeducated" into it if he is elected.)
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To: STARWISE

At such a dire time, visiting Granny for possibly the last time, having REGGIE LOVE accompany him on his most serious visit to Granny seems strange, while his SUPER WIFE, HATE AMERICA MICHELLE, sits back in Chicago in her Ill Gotten TONY REZKO MANSION!!!
Wouldn’t THE MESSIAH want his two daughters beside him with his Beloved Wife when visiting his Beloved Direly ILL Grandma who FOUGHT in WWII to SAVE AMERICA when this might be his Last Visit with His Dearest Grandma ever on this Earth? But then REGGIE LOVE is MOST SPECIAL apparently, at least he has the peanut butter sandwiches at hand always!
(Shucks, that was John F***ing Kerry’s butler, wasn’t it?)!


166 posted on 10/20/2008 9:25:22 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: TMA62
They say that where there is smoke, there is fire.

Or just somebody blowin smoke.

If Obama were to really be disqualified at this late date, it would make for an interesting time, and certainly not a very good way for his candidacy defeated.

167 posted on 10/20/2008 9:25:29 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: truthluva
So...is his grandmother really sick?

Not sure, how often does a typical white person get sick?

168 posted on 10/20/2008 9:26:45 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Orange1998
I can not get a DL or Passport without a “valid signed” Birth Cert but can run for President no questions asked.

Depends on your party affiliation.

169 posted on 10/20/2008 9:30:45 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: plain talk
what standing does this guy have?

If he is a lawful voter, he has the right to know that a particular candidate is qualified to be elected. The burden is lawfully on Obama to prove he is qualified under the U.S. Constitution.

170 posted on 10/20/2008 9:31:38 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: T Ruth
I am not sure if this is to be taken seriously.

It shouldn't be taken seriously. The man has no grounds to demand access to Obama's birth records. These suits are either publicity stunts, or the plaintiffs have some really crappy lawyers.

171 posted on 10/20/2008 9:33:12 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Mr. Jazzy
this individual has no standing

Exactly.

172 posted on 10/20/2008 9:35:30 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: STARWISE

She is going to need all the prayers she can get. Obama is a callous cad. Let’s review. She was in the hospital last week according to this report today..yet Obama did not go visit then and nothing was reported then. Suddenly, she has taken a turn for the worse, possibly ‘gravely ill’ and Obama is not going until Thursday or Friday without his wife or kids!

Good grief....it fits perfectly with his proven pattern of complete narcissism. This actually makes me dislike this man even more than I already did! I am sure many voters are asking themselves the same questions right now.


173 posted on 10/20/2008 9:37:42 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: FR_addict

Is this the same grandmother that claims she was at the One’s birth in KENYA? or was that his paternal grandmother?


174 posted on 10/20/2008 9:40:04 PM PDT by Merlinator (Stop the Obamination!)
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To: AnalogReigns
Due to his international travels from the time he was a baby, presumably Obama has held a passport since childhood (whether or not he was natural born in Hawaii). One needs only to renew a passport before it expires, once you’ve been issued one.

He's admitted travelling to Pakistan under an Idonesian passport in 1981.

175 posted on 10/20/2008 9:40:47 PM PDT by FreedomCalls ("not unprecedented")
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To: T Ruth
...an emergency writ expediting the release of Senator Barack Obama's secret birth records.

From the info I've seen from other sources, there are no birth records whatsoever to be found in the Hawaii state files. That's because he was born in Kenya!

176 posted on 10/20/2008 9:44:13 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: penelopesire

I’m wondering also, if she’s this ill, why he’s waiting until
Thursday to leave. Reports say he’s in Oahu Thursday and Friday.

He’s in FL today and tomorrow and Michelle’s also there, with at least one rally herself on Wednesday, so it looks like Florida/votes comes first to The One.


177 posted on 10/20/2008 9:56:36 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: verga

ROTFLMAO!! Hilarious...and I hope she is doing well.


178 posted on 10/20/2008 10:00:50 PM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: Buddy B

Your dad’s situation may not be as determinate as you might think. I don’t know the circumstances, to he may have lived in the country and his folks not have filed at the county seat. He may have even lived in the city, and have been born at home, his folks not filing at the county seat. I don’t know how they did it in those days. He could have even been born in a hospital, and not have filed the paperwork he was given.

I don’t know when they started making birth certificates, but my guess is that they got back to early England perhaps 1200 AD. They are probably present in other nations as well.

It would be an interesting thing to check out. I see what I can come up with and come back in a few minutes.


179 posted on 10/20/2008 11:17:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: pissant
Well, now we know why Obama is bee-lining it back to Hawaii

Why, to pull his grandmother out from under the bus?

180 posted on 10/20/2008 11:43:57 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: WellyP

“Does Granny, somehow have control of his BC or his Indonesian passport?”

Good guess. Does Granny have a bodyguard? Will the Secret Service protect us citizens from the Presidential candidates?


181 posted on 10/20/2008 11:47:16 PM PDT by devere
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To: Marmolade

RE: “And if she was that sick, going home to die, why wouldn’t he take his wife and girls with to see their grandma. Or even if she’s not dying, why wouldn’t they go too?”

*********

I don’t think the young girls really know that great-grandmother, but Michelle should definitely be making the trip to Hawaii. From what I gather, she is not going? All of this is very very strange if you ask me.


182 posted on 10/21/2008 12:24:50 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: All

Here is the web site for the article on the guys suit in Hawaii.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008810180353


183 posted on 10/21/2008 12:34:52 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: fhayek

Is Obama really Hillary’s son?


184 posted on 10/21/2008 3:32:56 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: FreedomCalls

At the time he was born, he could travel on his mother’s passport. They could then have got one for him in Hawaii.


185 posted on 10/21/2008 3:52:30 AM PDT by Nipfan
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To: fso301

“I’ve never known a hospital to release anyone if it is so serious and also why wait for three days to go

Doctor released my dad for the express purpose of going home to die a dignified death in the familiar surroundings of home. He died within 24 hours of being released.”

I TOOK my Dad home to die. I didn’t want him to be alone. He died sitting up in my sister and my arms within 24 hours.


186 posted on 10/21/2008 3:57:09 AM PDT by Lynne
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To: T Ruth

What standing does Andy Martin have? I’m not certain I understand how he can bring this suit...but, I have neither read the petition nor done the research. I’m looking for free answer.


187 posted on 10/21/2008 5:12:55 AM PDT by Pinetop
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To: Lynne
Doctor released my dad for the express purpose of going home to die a dignified death in the familiar surroundings of home. He died within 24 hours of being released.”

I TOOK my Dad home to die. I didn’t want him to be alone. He died sitting up in my sister and my arms within 24 hours.

We did the exact same thing, the hospital would just have kept trying to keep him going. That would have to cruel.

188 posted on 10/21/2008 5:36:54 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: T Ruth

I am not sure why people on this site take people like this Andy Martin and Phillip Berg seriously. Berg, for example, tried to sue Bush and Cheney for blowing up the WTC on 9/11. This Andy Martin guy is apparently a pretty nutty one as well.

As far as I can tell, Obama has a legit birth certificate and I have even seen clips on the internet announcing his birth from an issue of the Honolulu Register circa 1961.

As far as I can tell, with his mother being a natural born citizen and his dad being a legal emigre, that no one can seriously claim that he was not an american citizen at birth. But the fact remains, no one has showed any real evidence that he was not born inside the territory of the United States.


189 posted on 10/21/2008 5:54:09 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: bitt

So where is the press conference that was supposed to happen yesterday, and where is the information that was supposed to come out today?


190 posted on 10/21/2008 6:55:36 AM PDT by Hanna548
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To: mnehrling
"I believe this is the sixth state where a suit like this has been filed."

Only 53 to go!

191 posted on 10/21/2008 7:26:58 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: bonnieblue4me

LoL..
All that is needed is a good ruling in one State for this to snowball.


192 posted on 10/21/2008 7:29:24 AM PDT by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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To: queenkathy
I'm sure babmy will spend at least a few minutes with granny,of course his other granny in Kenya who claims to have witnessed his birth is bound to be persona non Grata at this point.
193 posted on 10/21/2008 7:49:08 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: bitt
This series will be a postpartisan look at Obama.

Well, that's bogus then... Tom Cruise assures us that there's no such thing as post-partisan depression.

194 posted on 10/21/2008 8:17:20 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: ChurtleDawg

Only he has to show anything...he has to prove not us disprove.

He can sign affidavits forever until someone calls him on them...maybe that is what is now happening. Once the court decides who has a standing before the courts...the investigation will begin in earnest. There are many twists and turns to the proof that you have not mentioned. We will see!!


195 posted on 10/21/2008 8:30:29 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave

Were there not some stories about hospital records being looked into at that time? Stories that identified 2 different hospitals as birthplace?

Age of his Mother,Validity of the marriage,Adoption, and Indonesian citizenship are bigger issues...maybe?


196 posted on 10/21/2008 8:36:55 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: FreedomCalls
I believe your passport statement is more important than all the BC discussions. Passports establish citizenship and change would make a person NATURALIZED to the next country, IMHO.
197 posted on 10/21/2008 8:46:35 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: queenkathy
Gosh I’ve become so suspicious

Can't you trust a guy who voted three times in favor of legalized infanticide? Sheesh. What do you people want from him?

198 posted on 10/21/2008 8:49:47 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: 3D-JOY

still, I think this is a waste of time. This Phillip Berg guy is a certified crank. He tried to sue George Bush for causing 9/11. He is a few eggs short of a dozen and an attention freak.


199 posted on 10/21/2008 8:51:38 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ChurtleDawg
still, I think this is a waste of time. This Phillip Berg guy is a certified crank. He tried to sue George Bush for causing 9/11. He is a few eggs short of a dozen and an attention freak.

Hey every one needs a hobby

200 posted on 10/21/2008 8:59:59 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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